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#rockbox log for 2021-03-10

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03:44:30braewoodsda fuck, this must be a mistake
03:45:29braewoodsdd says it has 36 MB/s IO speeds on the gogears on their new CF cards
03:45:35braewoodsover USB 2.0
03:45:40braewoodsseems too high to be real
03:45:48braewoodsoh well, time to format 'em so i can repair them
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04:43:56braewoodso.O
04:44:04braewoodsstrange
04:44:09braewoodskeypads don't work on either gogear now
04:44:19braewoodsguess i need to recheck the ribbon cables
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05:13:55braewoodsspeachy: https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3204
05:14:05braewoodsi think it's ready for merge, it works that i can tell
05:14:09braewoodsi finally worked out the issues
05:14:29braewoodsprobably linux only compatibiility but that's ok
05:14:44braewoodswe can probably probe for it via userspace drivers on the other OS
05:14:55braewoodsif we need it
05:15:28braewoodsbut this makes it possible to query for it from our own software too
05:16:02braewoodsbluebrother: you have any interest in using this feature in rbutil?
05:16:10braewoodsno idea what we would use it for but
05:16:26braewoodsyou can use it to probe the battery level via USB HID protocol
05:16:44braewoodswe can also add our own additions to the feature report if we wanted to
05:16:54braewoodsfor now i just have padding to make Linux happy
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07:06:52braewoodsspeachy: appears linux probes for it every 2 minutes or so
07:06:58braewoodsso even better
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07:09:37braewoodsso even better
07:09:40braewoodserr
07:09:44braewoodsanyway'
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08:42:07_bilgusJFIF windows 10 , wtf is JFIF even still doing around?
08:42:20_bilgushttps://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/13269
08:42:34_bilgus^this guys failing coverart is JFIF
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09:50:08_bilgusBah nope my mistake I guess that is a valid jpeg encoding I was thinking EXIF
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15:03:20speachy_bilgus: what do you think about g#3206 ?
15:03:23fs-bluebotGerrit review #3206 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3206 : Move "View" option for playlists up one level by Christian Soffke
15:04:45edhelas__bilgus yes progressive JPG support is a big thing for me as well
15:05:13edhelas_the tool i'm using to save the cover arts in my albums folders is saving all the covers in progressive jpg
15:06:12edhelas_i tried to patch the internal jpg decoder but i don't have the skill yet to do so
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15:11:27_bilgusspeachy I've often wondered why its in there I can't imagine it'll cause too much angst?
15:12:10_bilgusso I'm chasing this jpg display bug and it smells so much like stack overflow but damned if I can pinpoint it
15:12:32speachyyeah, it seemed sane to me but that's not necessarily a plus in its favor..
15:12:47speachy_bilgus: hmm, maybe an interrupt is coming along at the wrong time?
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15:23:25_bilgusedhelas_, the jpeg decoder is probably never gonna support much more than already its pretty heavy on the ram as is but perhaps it could be expanded for device with more RAM
15:24:19speachyedhelas_: and progressive decoding is a _lot_ more ram-heavy.
15:24:40edhelas_what about stopping on the first frames ?
15:25:13edhelas_regarding the resolution of most of the device screens, one or two frames should be enough, no need to decode the full 500x500px one
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15:36:36_bilgusthta sounds like a possibly viable strategy
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16:03:50speachyhah, the Cayin N3 that someone asked about on the forum is a fairly straightforward X1000+hibylinux port, but the N3Pro is a whole other beast. About 4x the price, it comes with a *tube amp*
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16:50:57speachysweet, figured out how to enable the headphone audio controls on the x3ii
16:55:58speachyI don't have
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17:03:15speachyI don't have a remote that'll do more than play/pause
17:10:22braewoodsspeachy: i'm going to try to make most out of MTP... turns out we can do a lot more than file transfer.
17:10:29braewoodsit can act as a remote control over USB too.
17:10:41braewoodswe can even extend it with our own extensions if we want to
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17:12:38braewoodsi think i'm going to try adding support for the host to control rockbox remotely
17:12:43braewoodswhile connected to USB
17:12:53braewoodsmaybe via a custom application
17:12:55braewoodsif need be
17:13:18braewoodsMTP is more powerful than i realized
17:14:15braewoodsin any case i suspect mtp is the best investment for new drivers
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18:47:28_bilgusspeachy any insight on this If I set a static pointer = NULL and later check if (!ptr) it never hits, but If I instead use if ptr != NULL it works and !ptr works too
18:48:13speachydoes anything set that pointer?
18:48:28_bilgusme after that
18:48:34_bilgusbut prior no
18:48:35speachycould be a helpfully aggressive optimizer
18:48:47_bilgusits almost like its being optmized out
18:51:21speachyhmm, the 'rockbox info' view of disks doesn't actually work for hosted (or simulator) builds.
18:51:30speachyalways comes up as not present.
18:52:11_bilgusI can see why
18:53:10speachyit relies on the 'size' property of the volume which isn't ever set, instead of using the storage is_present() api
18:55:55speachyit also tries to look up "/mnt/sd_0/<microSD0>"
18:56:01speachywhich is.. bogus.
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19:59:51_bilgushmm so the way imageviewer does the decoder it pre-compiles the decoder as a plugin then strips the CRT
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20:01:56_bilgusI suspect that would make it dependent on the underlying plugin buffer
20:02:24_bilgusI'll try setting the plugin buffer to 0 first
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20:13:07_bilguslol
20:18:22_bilgushttps://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/plugins/imageviewer/imageviewer.make#L40
20:23:50speachy....
20:24:05speachythe imageviewer plugin has so many past sins embodied within
20:27:14speachymost of which were due to the realities of archos targets
20:27:23speachys/most/many/
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20:47:56braewoods_bilgus: one suggestion would be to go through and convert the jpegs to the final image you needed and cache the result
20:48:06braewoodsso you might be able to do that if you use the full RAM available
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21:36:23speachyFINALLY. three rabbit holes later I finally accomplished my original task
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21:36:36speachy g#3210
21:36:38fs-bluebotGerrit review #3210 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3210 : xduoo_x3ii: Improvements in the meymappings! by Solomon Peachy
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21:44:15speachyinline headphone remotes are working on the x3ii. don't know if the x20 supports it or not
21:45:22speachy_bilgus: in theory the Rocker supports it too
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22:02:32_bilgusspeachy people have been asking for that for a long while
22:03:56speachynone of the other hiby-based players seem to support inline remotes, except possibly the Rocker.
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22:09:00speachyhmm, can detect the poweron reason too (KEY or VBUS only)
22:14:13_bilgus g#3211
22:14:15fs-bluebotGerrit review #3211 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3211 : ImageViewer Fix jpeg decoder by William Wilgus
22:14:50_bilguscrazy
22:18:40speachyactually that makes sense
22:19:01speachyno wait, that doesn't.
22:19:42speachybut the resulting code is cleaner anyway
22:20:28speachymost likely the crash was happening because the viewport we wer intiailzed with went away
22:20:49speachyand there's no reason for that to be static, so pfft.
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22:27:54_bilgusno its never null its whatever the buffer it copied to was before
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22:28:57_bilgusI wanted it static so it could just get set once
22:39:31braewoodsok with battery strength put to bed
22:39:39braewoodsit's time for me to get serious about MTP
22:40:18braewoodsit might be preferable to our UMS driver for supported targets
22:42:00braewoodsplus given the design we could also add support for stuff like remote controls of basic rockbox functionality
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23:31:48speachy_bilgus: any idea how long it's been "broken" ?
23:32:04speachycould it be fallout from the toolchain bump? (and/or the viewport rewrite you did..)
23:34:31speachyhahahah the only Rocker listed on ebay is in the UK, asking GBP 300.
23:39:58braewoodsspeachy: i think my iriver h10 has a regression
23:40:09braewoodsit works on 3.15 but not the latest development
23:40:31braewoodsit just locks up during boot
23:41:41speachystock hdd, or ssd mod?
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23:42:13_bilgusIts for sure my doing with the vp rewrite
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23:42:55speachybut I can't really comment onwhat it could be other than to try going back in 3 month increments.
23:43:22braewoodsspeachy: cf mod card mod
23:43:24speachy(I'm failry sure that I had a report of success in the post-toolchain-bump era
23:43:39_bilgusI cookie cutter copy pastad all those old frame buffer grabs not realizing that particular file doesn't init\ statics
23:43:52braewoodsthe same CF card works fine on 3.15
23:44:03speachydue to crt0 getting stripped, eh?
23:44:05braewoodsbut not latest builds
23:44:12_bilgusoh sorry missed that
23:44:16speachy3.15 is ~18mo old now
23:44:23speachyso... yeah.
23:45:58_bilgusI think you tsted thge h10 after the vp stuff braewoods?
23:46:37braewoodsvp? the new toolchain?
23:46:41braewoodsyea, i tested it previously
23:46:46braewoodssame result
23:46:48_bilgusviewport stuff
23:47:20braewoods_bilgus: erm yea, but what does that have to do with this? the h10 doesn't have a remote afaik
23:47:59braewoodssounds like i would have to trace the issue
23:48:29_bilgusyes git bisect will work here luckily
23:48:33speachythe new toolchains landed in July 2015. So I'd suggest doing a checkout from roughly August 2020 and see if that works..
23:48:50_bilgus2015?
23:48:54speachyjust to see if it's from the toolchain, or something else.
23:48:57speachy2020
23:48:59speachy2020!
23:49:03_bilguslol
23:49:12speachy(wtf... bad fingers..)
23:49:14braewoodsi'll try it later
23:49:39braewoodsbut i figured if it was a general PP problem
23:49:43braewoodsmy hdd1630 would have issues too
23:49:45braewoodsit does not
23:50:03braewoodsso something different with the H10
23:51:56speachystart just after the dust settling from the toolchian bump (b4865b05b0a3cc45f2873599c6411bef92f40b1c) to make sure you have a known good point post-toolchain
23:52:43speachyand if that worked, then git-bisect will probably be the most expedient approach to take.
23:53:32braewoodsi remember how much of a pain it was to find out what broke h300 bootloader
23:53:41speachy(there have been no H10-specific changes (other than a bootloader fix) since 2015.
23:54:36speachyanyway, off to bed for me. good luck. :D
23:55:22speachy...the h10 does have model-specific asm code for the lcd functions. I suppose it's possible that has a bad interaction with the viewport rewrite.
23:55:34braewoodswho knows
23:55:37braewoodsi'll look into it
23:55:55braewoodsbut it is important we try to keep ports working as long as we consider them supported
23:56:23_bilgusagreed
23:56:24braewoodsin any case i intend to mainly develop our USB drivers
23:56:57braewoodsthough some ports have become so rare i wonder if we have cause to keep them around
23:57:13braewoodsH10 isn't one of those yet
23:57:22braewoodsi still see fixer uppers show up on ebay
23:58:21braewoods_bilgus: how practical would it be to scale background IO to account for current load?
23:58:30braewoodsthat will be a factor in MTP development
23:58:58braewoodsi don't know what rockbox provides for trying to limit IO rates so i don't preclude the regular operations from working

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