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| 06:08:40 | braewoods | _bilgus_: i'm going to add some code to the debug menu to expose these bits |
| 06:08:55 | braewoods | they might be a useful debugging aid in seeing what CF cards are reporting |
| 06:20:41 | braewoods | i suspect i now know why the H120 OF hated cf cards |
| 06:20:57 | braewoods | but i need to find a fixed mode CF card first to test my hypothesis |
| 06:21:51 | braewoods | right now building an updated toolchain so i can test my code on an H120 |
| 06:21:55 | braewoods | see if i got the bits right |
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| 06:56:10 | braewoods | _bilgus_: simple change for you to review |
| 06:56:13 | braewoods | _bilgus_: https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3246 |
| 06:56:23 | braewoods | already tested it on an H120 |
| 06:56:31 | braewoods | it appears to report correctly |
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| 07:07:40 | braewoods | i thought it would be useful to be able to stick CF cards in other rockboxed players to see what they report |
| 07:07:43 | _bilgus_ | good timing |
| 07:07:58 | braewoods | that's the main use of this |
| 07:08:08 | braewoods | using other players to debug isues |
| 07:08:20 | braewoods | it's somewhat uncommon so should be useful |
| 07:08:37 | braewoods | some OFs care about these bits |
| 07:08:48 | braewoods | which may be why some reject CF cards or claim they're defective |
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| 07:28:33 | braewoods | erm |
| 07:28:45 | braewoods | da fuck, i thought i fixed that error |
| 07:29:05 | braewoods | let me check |
| 07:29:33 | _bilgus_ | lol |
| 07:29:39 | _bilgus_ | been there |
| 07:30:33 | braewoods | https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3247 |
| 07:30:35 | braewoods | there |
| 07:30:38 | braewoods | typo |
| 07:30:51 | _bilgus_ | I gotta run into work for a bit but i'll be back in a few hours |
| 07:31:02 | _bilgus_ | oh ok i'll push this reql quick |
| 07:31:16 | braewoods | i knew it already just thought my patch had the amended change |
| 07:31:47 | braewoods | identity vs identify |
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| 07:32:18 | _bilgus_ | I saw that lol |
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| 07:59:00 | braewoods | _bilgus_: https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/rockbox/+/3248/ whenever you get around to it, small change to the text |
| 07:59:11 | braewoods | i realized the bit means something else after reading more about it |
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| 12:13:56 | Eifan | Is it possible to install rockbox without restoring the ipod? Supern00b here. |
| 12:14:27 | braewoods | Eifan: let me guess. you replaced the storage? |
| 12:14:47 | Eifan | I haven't done anything yet. |
| 12:15:18 | braewoods | afaik you have to have a functioning OF installation before you can install rockbox |
| 12:15:39 | braewoods | that's usually the case |
| 12:16:38 | Eifan | What's a OF? |
| 12:17:34 | braewoods | original firmware |
| 12:17:46 | braewoods | that's true for most rockbox targets |
| 12:21:12 | Eifan | I have a fully funcioning ipod at the moment. Just some connectors that aren't working as it should do sometimes. Is that enough? |
| 12:23:00 | braewoods | i assume so but ipods are not my usual fare |
| 12:23:04 | braewoods | i mostly use other ports |
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| 16:00:02 | MarcAndersen | Hi. Are there any plans to port rockbox to the sony nw-a105? |
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| 16:09:11 | braewoods | MarcAndersen: if someone hasn't started a port by now then probably not |
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| 17:18:55 | MarcAndersen | The most important thing for me was if it can play opus, but since it is android, there must be a way to do it? |
| 17:19:24 | MarcAndersen | I haven't got the device yet though |
| 17:30:43 | braewoods | MarcAndersen: i think android has that natively now |
| 17:31:15 | braewoods | https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/media-formats |
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| 17:55:29 | MarcAndersen | That sounds cool. It will be fun to play with. |
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| 21:49:04 | braewoods | speachy: hey, any ideas whether rockbox uses ATA at 3.3V or 5V? |
| 21:50:04 | speachy | braewoods: I'd imagine that's target-dependent. easiest thing to do is look up the drive specs for what was shipped in eg the old ipods or iriver units.. |
| 21:50:23 | speachy | IIRC we don't have any active control of that stuff. |
| 21:50:28 | braewoods | ok, just curious since it seems CF cards perform differently at voltages |
| 21:51:07 | braewoods | speachy: i believe i found the problem with my yh-925, it wants a fixed disk but most CF cards on the market are removeable |
| 21:51:19 | speachy | CF cards are removable by definition, yeah |
| 21:51:37 | braewoods | any suggestions on how to find a fixed disk CF card? they do exist and the highest capacity one i found is 64GB industrial cards from transcend |
| 21:51:53 | speachy | There might be a sense pin on the bus that is used to signify that |
| 21:52:13 | braewoods | it's up to the card that i can tell |
| 21:52:17 | speachy | but if the firmware is getting that via the IDENTIFY INFO command, then you're SOL. |
| 21:52:17 | braewoods | since the adapter is purely passive |
| 21:52:23 | braewoods | it is |
| 21:52:56 | braewoods | i bought an old low capacity fixed disk card to test out |
| 21:53:02 | braewoods | before i consider a more expensive option |
| 21:53:34 | speachy | might be worth checking to see if the iFlash CF->SD adapters claim to be removable or not |
| 21:53:35 | braewoods | speachy: i wonder if any SD to CF adapters report as fixed |
| 21:53:45 | braewoods | i bought one already actually |
| 21:53:53 | braewoods | just not sure if it does that or not |
| 21:54:06 | speachy | do you remember the word/bit? |
| 21:54:06 | braewoods | that's part of what motivated me to extend the debug menu |
| 21:54:12 | speachy | I have a dump here of one |
| 21:54:22 | braewoods | speachy: it's the first byte of the info |
| 21:54:29 | braewoods | the 7th, 8th, and 16th bits |
| 21:54:44 | speachy | bit 6, ok. |
| 21:55:10 | braewoods | 16th bit is supposed to be 0 for ATA, 1 for CF in modern ATA |
| 21:55:22 | braewoods | 7th bit is fixed device or not |
| 21:55:29 | braewoods | 8th bit is removeable media or not |
| 21:55:46 | braewoods | no wait, first 2 bytes |
| 21:55:49 | braewoods | sorry |
| 21:56:38 | braewoods | i would hope the iflash adapter lies here or so for compatibility with picky firmware |
| 21:56:38 | speachy | the card I have a dump for is 04 5a |
| 21:56:46 | braewoods | hm |
| 21:56:50 | braewoods | i'll interpret it thanks |
| 21:56:57 | speachy | was idenitfy info LE or BE? |
| 21:57:14 | braewoods | it's apparently big endian normally |
| 21:57:48 | braewoods | though only so many ways to interpret it |
| 21:57:52 | speachy | ok, then this has 0b6 == off, 0b7 == on. |
| 21:58:02 | braewoods | it appears to be stored in little endian here though |
| 21:58:05 | speachy | wait, b6 on b7 off. |
| 21:58:05 | braewoods | let's see |
| 21:58:48 | speachy | 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 |
| 21:59:29 | speachy | so ATA, Fixed, non-removable. |
| 21:59:38 | speachy | if I'm reading this correctly |
| 21:59:49 | braewoods | could be |
| 21:59:57 | braewoods | i'll find out from the debug menu stuff |
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| 22:00:10 | speachy | now this is not an iflash, but it probably uses teh same chipset |
| 22:00:53 | braewoods | but if it does report correctly, it's the most economical way to get high storage in that device |
| 22:01:19 | braewoods | part of my motivation to adding this info to the debug menu is it's useful for some stuff |
| 22:01:31 | braewoods | but to know what the ATA device is reporting |
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| 22:18:49 | braewoods | speachy: looks like you're right. it tried the bits both ways but it only makes sense in that orientation. |
| 22:18:59 | braewoods | i tried |
| 22:25:02 | speachy | _bilgus_: thoughts on g#3245? |
| 22:25:04 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #3245 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3245 : Call powermgmt_init_target() before polling the battery by Aidan MacDonald |
| 22:25:24 | speachy | I _think_ it's sane, but the only ones really affected by this are the AMSes and imx233 |
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| 22:29:29 | speachy | (and my brain's too jumbled to trust right now) |
| 22:39:29 | braewoods | speachy: or perhaps the first reading could be full battery until the read one is known |
| 22:39:34 | braewoods | real |
| 22:39:39 | braewoods | or some other invalid value |
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| 22:59:51 | _bilgus_ | I thought there was allowance for that in the code already |
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| 23:01:19 | _bilgus_ | meh makes sense to me that you'd init the target first |
| 23:01:40 | _bilgus_ | whatever breaks should be fixed instead |
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| 23:04:02 | speachy | ok, it is so. |
| 23:08:40 | speachy | chris_s: I think you should look at fs#13278 |
| 23:08:42 | fs-bluebot_ | https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/13278 Spurious error message after playing a song for the first time (bugs, unconfirmed) |
| 23:14:12 | _bilgus_ | oh thaT has the same symptom as a longtime bug on USB unplug |
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| 23:32:31 | chris_s | speachy: oh yeah, I'll take a look |
| 23:41:36 | chris_s | I guess it makes sense to check for global_status.resume_index != -1 there. In fact, I did do that at some point, because it didn't seem to make sense to warn when deleting a playlist that couldn't be resumed anyway by selecting "Resume Playback", but then I noticed you could theoretically still access such a playlist by using the Playlist |
| 23:41:37 | chris_s | Catalogue's context menu (although most people probably don't) |
| 23:43:11 | chris_s | In the longer term that brings me back to wondering whether it wouldn't make sense to reset the resume index to 0 (instead of -1) when finishing playlist |
| 23:43:31 | chris_s | That's the behavior I'm happily using in my own modified build |
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| 23:44:53 | chris_s | So if you want to re-listen to an album (or whatever else was playing that) you just finished, you can simply press Play again |
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