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#rockbox log for 2021-03-22

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06:08:40braewoods_bilgus_: i'm going to add some code to the debug menu to expose these bits
06:08:55braewoodsthey might be a useful debugging aid in seeing what CF cards are reporting
06:20:41braewoodsi suspect i now know why the H120 OF hated cf cards
06:20:57braewoodsbut i need to find a fixed mode CF card first to test my hypothesis
06:21:51braewoodsright now building an updated toolchain so i can test my code on an H120
06:21:55braewoodssee if i got the bits right
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06:56:10braewoods_bilgus_: simple change for you to review
06:56:23braewoodsalready tested it on an H120
06:56:31braewoodsit appears to report correctly
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07:07:40braewoodsi thought it would be useful to be able to stick CF cards in other rockboxed players to see what they report
07:07:43_bilgus_good timing
07:07:58braewoodsthat's the main use of this
07:08:08braewoodsusing other players to debug isues
07:08:20braewoodsit's somewhat uncommon so should be useful
07:08:37braewoodssome OFs care about these bits
07:08:48braewoodswhich may be why some reject CF cards or claim they're defective
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07:28:45braewoodsda fuck, i thought i fixed that error
07:29:05braewoodslet me check
07:29:39_bilgus_been there
07:30:51_bilgus_I gotta run into work for a bit but i'll be back in a few hours
07:31:02_bilgus_oh ok i'll push this reql quick
07:31:16braewoodsi knew it already just thought my patch had the amended change
07:31:47braewoodsidentity vs identify
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07:32:18_bilgus_I saw that lol
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07:59:00braewoods_bilgus_: whenever you get around to it, small change to the text
07:59:11braewoodsi realized the bit means something else after reading more about it
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08:46:38speachyhey, just popping in to say I haven't been hit by lightning. But my home internet connection was, on Thursday. Still out, but in theory someone's supposed to be here in a few hours to determine that yup, my lines are fine, and that it's actually a problem with their provisioning system. @!#%@%
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12:13:56EifanIs it possible to install rockbox without restoring the ipod? Supern00b here.
12:14:27braewoodsEifan: let me guess. you replaced the storage?
12:14:47EifanI haven't done anything yet.
12:15:18braewoodsafaik you have to have a functioning OF installation before you can install rockbox
12:15:39braewoodsthat's usually the case
12:16:38EifanWhat's a OF?
12:17:34braewoodsoriginal firmware
12:17:46braewoodsthat's true for most rockbox targets
12:21:12EifanI have a fully funcioning ipod at the moment. Just some connectors that aren't working as it should do sometimes. Is that enough?
12:23:00braewoodsi assume so but ipods are not my usual fare
12:23:04braewoodsi mostly use other ports
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16:00:02MarcAndersenHi. Are there any plans to port rockbox to the sony nw-a105?
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16:09:11braewoodsMarcAndersen: if someone hasn't started a port by now then probably not
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17:18:55MarcAndersenThe most important thing for me was if it can play opus, but since it is android, there must be a way to do it?
17:19:24MarcAndersenI haven't got the device yet though
17:30:43braewoodsMarcAndersen: i think android has that natively now
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17:55:29MarcAndersenThat sounds cool. It will be fun to play with.
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21:49:04braewoodsspeachy: hey, any ideas whether rockbox uses ATA at 3.3V or 5V?
21:50:04speachybraewoods: I'd imagine that's target-dependent. easiest thing to do is look up the drive specs for what was shipped in eg the old ipods or iriver units..
21:50:23speachyIIRC we don't have any active control of that stuff.
21:50:28braewoodsok, just curious since it seems CF cards perform differently at voltages
21:51:07braewoodsspeachy: i believe i found the problem with my yh-925, it wants a fixed disk but most CF cards on the market are removeable
21:51:19speachyCF cards are removable by definition, yeah
21:51:37braewoodsany suggestions on how to find a fixed disk CF card? they do exist and the highest capacity one i found is 64GB industrial cards from transcend
21:51:53speachyThere might be a sense pin on the bus that is used to signify that
21:52:13braewoodsit's up to the card that i can tell
21:52:17speachybut if the firmware is getting that via the IDENTIFY INFO command, then you're SOL.
21:52:17braewoodssince the adapter is purely passive
21:52:23braewoodsit is
21:52:56braewoodsi bought an old low capacity fixed disk card to test out
21:53:02braewoodsbefore i consider a more expensive option
21:53:34speachymight be worth checking to see if the iFlash CF->SD adapters claim to be removable or not
21:53:35braewoodsspeachy: i wonder if any SD to CF adapters report as fixed
21:53:45braewoodsi bought one already actually
21:53:53braewoodsjust not sure if it does that or not
21:54:06speachydo you remember the word/bit?
21:54:06braewoodsthat's part of what motivated me to extend the debug menu
21:54:12speachyI have a dump here of one
21:54:22braewoodsspeachy: it's the first byte of the info
21:54:29braewoodsthe 7th, 8th, and 16th bits
21:54:44speachybit 6, ok.
21:55:10braewoods16th bit is supposed to be 0 for ATA, 1 for CF in modern ATA
21:55:22braewoods7th bit is fixed device or not
21:55:29braewoods8th bit is removeable media or not
21:55:46braewoodsno wait, first 2 bytes
21:56:38braewoodsi would hope the iflash adapter lies here or so for compatibility with picky firmware
21:56:38speachythe card I have a dump for is 04 5a
21:56:50braewoodsi'll interpret it thanks
21:56:57speachywas idenitfy info LE or BE?
21:57:14braewoodsit's apparently big endian normally
21:57:48braewoodsthough only so many ways to interpret it
21:57:52speachyok, then this has 0b6 == off, 0b7 == on.
21:58:02braewoodsit appears to be stored in little endian here though
21:58:05speachywait, b6 on b7 off.
21:58:05braewoodslet's see
21:58:48speachy0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
21:59:29speachyso ATA, Fixed, non-removable.
21:59:38speachyif I'm reading this correctly
21:59:49braewoodscould be
21:59:57braewoodsi'll find out from the debug menu stuff
22:00:10speachynow this is not an iflash, but it probably uses teh same chipset
22:00:53braewoodsbut if it does report correctly, it's the most economical way to get high storage in that device
22:01:19braewoodspart of my motivation to adding this info to the debug menu is it's useful for some stuff
22:01:31braewoodsbut to know what the ATA device is reporting
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22:18:49braewoodsspeachy: looks like you're right. it tried the bits both ways but it only makes sense in that orientation.
22:18:59braewoodsi tried
22:25:02speachy_bilgus_: thoughts on g#3245?
22:25:04fs-bluebot_Gerrit review #3245 at : Call powermgmt_init_target() before polling the battery by Aidan MacDonald
22:25:24speachyI _think_ it's sane, but the only ones really affected by this are the AMSes and imx233
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22:29:29speachy(and my brain's too jumbled to trust right now)
22:39:29braewoodsspeachy: or perhaps the first reading could be full battery until the read one is known
22:39:39braewoodsor some other invalid value
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22:59:51_bilgus_I thought there was allowance for that in the code already
23:01:19_bilgus_meh makes sense to me that you'd init the target first
23:01:40_bilgus_whatever breaks should be fixed instead
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23:04:02speachyok, it is so.
23:08:40speachychris_s: I think you should look at fs#13278
23:08:42fs-bluebot_ Spurious error message after playing a song for the first time (bugs, unconfirmed)
23:14:12_bilgus_oh thaT has the same symptom as a longtime bug on USB unplug
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23:32:31chris_sspeachy: oh yeah, I'll take a look
23:41:36chris_sI guess it makes sense to check for global_status.resume_index != -1 there. In fact, I did do that at some point, because it didn't seem to make sense to warn when deleting a playlist that couldn't be resumed anyway by selecting "Resume Playback", but then I noticed you could theoretically still access such a playlist by using the Playlist
23:41:37chris_sCatalogue's context menu (although most people probably don't)
23:43:11chris_sIn the longer term that brings me back to wondering whether it wouldn't make sense to reset the resume index to 0 (instead of -1) when finishing playlist
23:43:31chris_sThat's the behavior I'm happily using in my own modified build
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23:44:53chris_sSo if you want to re-listen to an album (or whatever else was playing that) you just finished, you can simply press Play again

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