| 00:01:35 | speachy | since you two are here, any thoughts on simply nuking the old WpsGallery stuff on the wiki? Is there any inherent reason to keep it beyond archaeology? |
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| 00:04:58 | saratoga | my gigabeat F is running r25447M-100403 |
| 00:08:47 | _bilgus | 11 years |
| 00:08:55 | speachy | to the day, heh |
| 00:09:19 | saratoga | i wonder what i was testing, maybe the mp3 codec optimizations |
| 00:09:30 | saratoga | works great, so i'll update the post |
| 00:16:27 | _bilgus | thankyou |
| 00:16:42 | _bilgus | speachy what theme stuff are you reffering to? |
| 00:16:56 | speachy | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WpsGallery |
| 00:17:53 | speachy | the "don't use this, use the themesite instead" note was added in 2009. |
| 00:18:20 | _bilgus | I think its neat how bug did you say it was? |
| 00:18:25 | _bilgus | big |
| 00:18:44 | speachy | ~550MB |
| 00:19:08 | _bilgus | phew wipe the themes save the pages |
| 00:19:24 | _bilgus | not likely to work anyway |
| 00:21:07 | speachy | I suppose there's a chance there's old stuff in the gallery that was never transferred to the themsites |
| 00:22:00 | _bilgus | well oh well 20 years no one bothered |
| 00:22:12 | speachy | 10. :) |
| 00:22:33 | _bilgus | 10 since the theme site |
| 00:28:21 | speachy | I guess I'll see what the stats look like after a couple of days.. it's still coming through but now it's in small bursts instead of a massive torrent |
| 00:30:17 | saratoga | i've got a few sandisk players charging (they won't boot with a dead battery), i'll see if i can get them working in the morning |
| 00:32:44 | speachy | _bilgus: btw that's 550MB of 3.5GB. |
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| 00:34:19 | speachy | anyhoo. time to pack it in too. |
| 00:34:23 | speachy | g'nite, y'all |
| 00:35:55 | _bilgus | nn |
| 00:36:44 | _bilgus | awesome sartoga I figure we won't release anything without a ok |
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| 01:55:45 | braewoods | huh interesting how the sansa C200 has a dock no one has fully implemented support for in rockbox |
| 01:56:18 | * | braewoods ponders. |
| 01:58:54 | braewoods | WOAH |
| 01:58:58 | braewoods | I'm buying that right now! |
| 01:59:13 | braewoods | a gogear hdd6330 went up for sale just now |
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| 03:05:02 | braewoods | _bilgus: i just noticed the hdd6330 has DMA disabled |
| 03:05:14 | braewoods | i wonder if your recent PP fixes would allow that to be enabled |
| 03:05:17 | braewoods | i'll test it later |
| 03:22:41 | braewoods | speachy: does rockbox already have code for encoding a composite video signal? |
| 03:23:08 | braewoods | i'm looking at the datasheets for the tv out chips in our only two ports that support it |
| 03:23:18 | braewoods | gigabeat S and gogear Hdd6330 |
| 03:23:42 | braewoods | given the cables for exposing it i think it only supports composite output |
| 03:24:05 | braewoods | no idea what we'd use this for but i would like to develop a POC of tv out |
| 03:24:16 | braewoods | then figure out how to abstract it |
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| 10:18:23 | dconrad | @amachronic so just so I understand right, when booting the m3k over usb, the only thing that needs to be on the sd card is the .rockbox folder, right? and the command points to the spl.m3k and rockbox.bin files on the computer? |
| 10:18:32 | amachronic | Yes that's right |
| 10:19:29 | amachronic | when you tried to boot the stock recovery, you just powered on the machine without doing a USB boot, correct? |
| 10:20:15 | dconrad | re-installing the original firmware? yeah, I just held Vol+ and pressed Power |
| 10:20:55 | amachronic | if you want to try that, you need to hold Vol+ while you boot xloader.bin over USB. |
| 10:21:04 | dconrad | oh I see |
| 10:21:11 | amachronic | the blinking is coming from the rockbox SPL because it doesn't have the ability to boot the recovery image itself |
| 10:22:00 | dconrad | hm, do you reckon it's booting correctly when I do xloader.bin, what with it just showing the battery icon and then going lifeless? |
| 10:22:10 | dconrad | as if its charging |
| 10:22:53 | amachronic | was looking over your flash dump −− did you have Fiio's 1.3.0 firmware installed when you tried flashing Rockbox? |
| 10:23:22 | dconrad | I guess I never checked, I bought this specifically for installing rockbox |
| 10:23:47 | amachronic | OK, don't worry about it then. Pretty sure it's 1.3.0 |
| 10:24:10 | amachronic | your flash dumps seem fine, except the secure boot key area has "11 11" and mine is all zeroed |
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| 10:24:38 | amachronic | also you're missing a magic number that the stock firmware checks, but I'm not 100% certain it would cause a problem |
| 10:25:46 | amachronic | OK, when you boot xloader.bin, as soon as you see the backlight turn on, pull out the USB cord |
| 10:25:57 | amachronic | just try a normal boot and see if the Fiio firmware comes up |
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| 10:26:42 | dconrad | AHA! |
| 10:26:47 | dconrad | bingo! |
| 10:26:48 | amachronic | it worked? |
| 10:26:50 | dconrad | yep |
| 10:26:57 | amachronic | OK then, it must be a minor issue then |
| 10:27:14 | amachronic | try reflashing using M3K's recovery |
| 10:27:15 | dconrad | loaded xloader.bin, as soon as I saw "welcome" I yanked that cord, and it came right up to the main screen |
| 10:27:24 | dconrad | sure |
| 10:27:37 | dconrad | any reason not to just do the most recent firmware? |
| 10:28:01 | amachronic | any old firmware should do, the boot code is the same for all versions. |
| 10:28:26 | dconrad | or wait, is factory restore what I want to do? |
| 10:28:41 | amachronic | uh, is that in the Fiio player's UI? |
| 10:28:45 | dconrad | yeh |
| 10:28:48 | amachronic | don't do that |
| 10:28:55 | amachronic | just do the USB boot thing |
| 10:29:01 | dconrad | oh I see |
| 10:29:12 | amachronic | (I just don't know what the UI option would do.) |
| 10:30:11 | dconrad | just so I know what I'm doing since apparently this is risky, I'll shut the player down, hold vol+ while plugging in the USB, and load xloader.bin while still holding vol+? |
| 10:30:19 | amachronic | Yes |
| 10:30:25 | dconrad | with the firmware update on the card |
| 10:30:27 | amachronic | yes |
| 10:30:42 | amachronic | although you already went into the risky territory now that you got a brick :P |
| 10:30:56 | dconrad | lol yeah adventure is fun, they say |
| 10:34:19 | dconrad | hm, I'm not even getting that far, I'm just getting "Could not open USB device" |
| 10:34:32 | dconrad | and the keypad starts blinking after like 3 seconds |
| 10:34:55 | dconrad | I can recreate the usb-yank trick to load the OF though |
| 10:35:48 | amachronic | oh, sorry |
| 10:35:53 | amachronic | hold vol- while inserting the USB |
| 10:35:55 | amachronic | then release |
| 10:36:03 | amachronic | hold vol+ while booting xloader |
| 10:36:10 | dconrad | ahhhh, yeah that would do it |
| 10:36:50 | dconrad | ok, currently unzipping |
| 10:38:18 | dconrad | sweet, we're back in bidness |
| 10:38:25 | dconrad | got a fresh start |
| 10:38:38 | dconrad | thanks! |
| 10:39:15 | amachronic | awesome. |
| 10:40:06 | amachronic | out of curiosity, could you boot Rockbox over USB, make a NAND dump and send it to me? |
| 10:40:13 | amachronic | just don't flash it |
| 10:40:46 | dconrad | yeah for sure, though I've got 1.4.5 installed now |
| 10:41:24 | amachronic | that's fine, I just want to see if the differences I saw with your first dump have gone away |
| 10:44:19 | dconrad | https://dconrad.neocities.org/assorted_files/recovered_1_4_5_boot.dump |
| 10:44:23 | dconrad | that should work |
| 10:45:00 | dconrad | so you're thinking those differences are what's caused it to go into such a strange state? |
| 10:46:00 | amachronic | it's not likely |
| 10:46:38 | amachronic | looks like the differences are now gone, so it must just be what a factory-flashed unit looks like |
| 10:47:14 | dconrad | keep in mind this is used (returned to store, apparently), though yeah probably never been updated |
| 10:47:56 | amachronic | when you tried to boot Rockbox, all you got was a black screen right? |
| 10:48:07 | dconrad | with the faulty bootloader? |
| 10:48:20 | dconrad | the backlight would flash, and that was all the life it showed |
| 10:48:26 | dconrad | keypad* |
| 10:48:33 | dconrad | backlight never came on |
| 10:48:39 | amachronic | then it all goes dark permanently? |
| 10:48:42 | dconrad | yeah |
| 10:48:52 | amachronic | ok, that narrows down the problem considerably. |
| 10:49:12 | dconrad | so trying again will probably have the same results...? |
| 10:49:52 | amachronic | If you want to try again, go ahead :) but I'm inclined to think it's an SD card / filesystem problem |
| 10:51:07 | amachronic | it's probably best if you wait since I'm trying to reduce the complexity of the install process. |
| 10:51:25 | amachronic | that will make it easier to test if it's a genuine reproducible problem. |
| 10:51:42 | dconrad | alright, though if the temptation gets the better of me at least I know how to recover to the OF |
| 10:51:44 | dconrad | lol |
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| 11:00:39 | speachy | calebccff: we did last year |
| 11:04:10 | _bilgus | speachy cela might stop by with a rockchip that doesn't d playback |
| 11:04:15 | _bilgus | do |
| 11:04:34 | speachy | rk27xx? sweet. |
| 11:04:38 | _bilgus | I'm stepping our for a bit maybe one of us will catch him |
| 11:04:54 | _bilgus | them erm |
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| 11:24:12 | speachy | I'm taking the kiddo to a soccer game in a few so I'll be gone a good chunk of the afternoon |
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| 13:00:37 | _bilgus | i'm back |
| 13:03:04 | cela | _bilgus I've put the rk27xx on charge, you can upload a build if you want and I can test a bit later on. |
| 13:05:17 | _bilgus | which buttons need remapped? |
| 13:06:16 | cela | btw YP-R0 and Zen x-fi2 Work ok. |
| 13:06:39 | _bilgus | hank you |
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| 13:12:04 | cela | Not sure which buttons now, there are 6 in all,I think a couple were swapped around and maybe a one didn't work at all,but probably no one is using rockbox on this type of unbranded player, the HiFIMans might be a different story though |
| 13:14:29 | _bilgus | ok so what i'll have you do is set up on the current dev version you have on there, settings>general settings>startup/shutdown>Start Screen>Resume playback |
| 13:14:43 | _bilgus | then I'll just disable everything but the power button |
| 13:17:12 | _bilgus | also if you can get to it can you check the stacks in debug menu for anything after you start playback |
| 13:17:24 | _bilgus | lets just get that out of the way first |
| 13:23:57 | cela | OK set it to play on a loop, looking at stack usage in debug menu, what am i looking for? |
| 13:25:40 | cela | 59% main 12% buffering |
| 13:33:47 | _bilgus | those are fine |
| 13:34:08 | _bilgus | like80+% I suppose but those are nice n normal |
| 13:34:18 | _bilgus | what about the buffering thread |
| 13:34:27 | _bilgus | hold on a sec let me build a sim |
| 13:34:31 | _bilgus | https://www.mediafire.com/folder/wyq85ijmsyqsm/RK27Generic |
| 13:35:34 | cela | i'm seeing +T 151 5 12% buffering |
| 13:37:22 | cela | err . +T 15 15 12% buffering |
| 13:39:33 | _bilgus | #error no UI defines for sim bah |
| 13:40:03 | braewoods | calebccff: we upgrade to gcc 4.9 last year for some ports. some were already on 4.9 |
| 13:40:47 | braewoods | speachy: main thing i see being useful language wise is we might get access to _Generic and _Static_assert in the next bump |
| 13:41:02 | braewoods | some C11 features of note |
| 13:41:51 | braewoods | static assert could be useful for asserting something is true that can't be checked by a preprocessor directive |
| 13:43:03 | cela | battery is about out on RK27xx. I'm gonna have to put it on charge for a bit longer |
| 13:43:25 | braewoods | cela: what rockchip board is rockbox compatible with? |
| 13:44:54 | cela | Rk27xx series only, not RKnano, Rk28xx or Rk26xx series. |
| 13:44:59 | _bilgus | cela thats fine not a big hurry |
| 13:46:07 | braewoods | yea but it's arm so the chip could be in many variants |
| 13:47:06 | cela | Hifimans can run Rockbox, they are RK27xx |
| 13:47:35 | cela | Hard to find though |
| 13:48:17 | braewoods | i see |
| 13:48:37 | _bilgus | you have any pics cela? |
| 13:49:04 | braewoods | just the platform was an enigma |
| 13:49:15 | braewoods | i had no idea what devices even ran off the partial port |
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| 13:51:01 | _bilgus | once we rule out that the buttons are causing problems we will move on |
| 13:54:48 | braewoods | LOL that's a surprise |
| 13:54:48 | cela | Like this, http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa99/astola/Rockbox_Sleek1.jpg  buttons across the top |
| 13:55:30 | braewoods | _bilgus: i found a mpio hd300 unbranded in an ebay lot of broken stuff |
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| 14:14:31 | _bilgus | cela I see nothing but a screen there lol |
| 14:15:18 | _bilgus | are they nice? thought it was a ipod clone |
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| 14:26:24 | braewoods | _bilgus: can you read schematics? |
| 14:27:27 | braewoods | the philips hdd targets we support.. we have their official schematics so i was hoping to use them to figure out how to implement some missing functionality for optional accessories |
| 14:27:52 | _bilgus | yeah |
| 14:28:04 | braewoods | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/GoGearHDD6330/Philips_HDD6320_HDD6330_Service_Manual.pdf |
| 14:28:13 | _bilgus | i'll look in a bit |
| 14:28:16 | braewoods | notably the remote part of the docking cradle |
| 14:28:36 | braewoods | it supports some kind of IR remote which i got from an auction awhile back |
| 14:28:50 | braewoods | the back of the manual has the schematic |
| 14:29:18 | braewoods | i'm guessing it uses GPIO in some manner |
| 14:29:31 | braewoods | to send it to the unit |
| 14:29:50 | braewoods | no wonder these ports were easier than mos |
| 14:29:51 | braewoods | most |
| 14:30:02 | braewoods | the vendor schematics are readily available |
| 14:32:25 | _bilgus | what are you wanting to know? |
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| 14:34:09 | braewoods | _bilgus: for now, how it connects to the unit software wise |
| 14:34:32 | braewoods | so i have some idea of where to start proding in my quest to find out how it sends input to the unit |
| 14:34:59 | braewoods | though ultimately it would be better if i can learn to read these |
| 14:41:35 | _bilgus | braewoods if you look on the processor |
| 14:41:42 | _bilgus | the right side |
| 14:42:01 | braewoods | PWM1? |
| 14:42:01 | _bilgus | you see the pins with a '7' or 6/7 to the far right |
| 14:42:18 | _bilgus | T6 T7 R7 |
| 14:42:29 | _bilgus | T8 |
| 14:42:42 | _bilgus | F4 |
| 14:42:56 | _bilgus | R6, U5 |
| 14:43:19 | _bilgus | those are all pins going to the board edge connector |
| 14:43:35 | braewoods | aka, the cradle connector? |
| 14:43:39 | _bilgus | little further down is T16 |
| 14:43:51 | _bilgus | that one has the remote |
| 14:44:00 | braewoods | indeed... just one pin for the whole remote? |
| 14:44:04 | _bilgus | according to the tag on the pin (on L) its PWM |
| 14:44:19 | _bilgus | so they probably send out a pwnm and later read an adc |
| 14:44:42 | _bilgus | but IDK yet I havent found the other end just yet |
| 14:44:59 | braewoods | no idea what the GPIOs would be used for |
| 14:44:59 | _bilgus | old way was a voltage divider loop |
| 14:45:17 | _bilgus | well you can multiplex over lines too |
| 14:45:38 | _bilgus | so use 5 buttons with a only 3 lines |
| 14:45:42 | _bilgus | with diodes |
| 14:46:05 | braewoods | i see |
| 14:46:12 | braewoods | so this isn't as helpful as i thought |
| 14:46:28 | _bilgus | Do you have a oscilloscope? |
| 14:46:31 | braewoods | no i don't |
| 14:46:42 | _bilgus | even a little pocket one would get you enough to do it |
| 14:46:57 | _bilgus | a multimeter with freq reading mught too |
| 14:47:10 | braewoods | basically monitor the signals sent over the lines? |
| 14:47:45 | braewoods | or i can try monitoring from software |
| 14:47:49 | _bilgus | ive even seen capacitive button schemes where it times how long it takes to drain the cap and uses the time const as a button value basically |
| 14:48:03 | _bilgus | let me keep looking |
| 14:48:31 | braewoods | anyway i just thought knowing how it is connected to the pins might help me out |
| 14:48:45 | braewoods | i won't be working on this right away but at some point in the future |
| 14:48:55 | braewoods | i would like to polish up the hdd gogear ports too |
| 14:48:58 | braewoods | just right now |
| 14:48:59 | braewoods | lol |
| 14:49:05 | braewoods | gigabeat S... |
| 14:49:15 | braewoods | needs just an easier install method |
| 14:49:20 | _bilgus | later on on the cradle part it shows << and >> for signal direction |
| 14:49:46 | braewoods | i would expect << if it was going to the unit |
| 14:51:24 | braewoods | looks like one PWM line is connected to the LC |
| 14:51:25 | braewoods | LCD |
| 14:51:31 | braewoods | that might help me find where the other PWM line is |
| 14:51:36 | braewoods | that is linked to the remote |
| 14:52:09 | braewoods | it's supposed to be adjacent to it according to the sheet |
| 14:58:13 | _bilgus | on the left BM3_KSI that looks like the players buttons but it has a cradle line in it |
| 14:58:32 | _bilgus | maybe they just connect to them and the player buttons |
| 14:59:02 | _bilgus | or at least the volume |
| 14:59:20 | braewoods | i'll test it later |
| 14:59:30 | braewoods | it's possible it works already |
| 14:59:41 | braewoods | but if it doesn't it means something more is needed |
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| 15:01:22 | _bilgus | a scope would show if it was a frequency based itm and the voltage levels but you can rule out or even figure out with a decent multimeter |
| 15:02:09 | braewoods | _bilgus: what about those simple logic probes? |
| 15:02:19 | braewoods | they go high or low or w/e |
| 15:02:52 | _bilgus | I have one I built back in the late 90's but eh multimeter is good enough for quick stuff |
| 15:03:22 | _bilgus | now if you are chasing logic level stuff and have schema then coms in handy |
| 15:03:42 | braewoods | btw |
| 15:03:54 | braewoods | any idea how these driver writers knew what addresses to write to? |
| 15:04:00 | _bilgus | pocket oscope should cover most of that use case but the probe deal is good for low speed stuff |
| 15:04:12 | braewoods | that's not something you could learn from the schematic |
| 15:04:19 | braewoods | let alone logic probing |
| 15:04:50 | _bilgus | I imagine a programers manual |
| 15:04:51 | braewoods | i'm assuming it has something to do the PP pin uts |
| 15:05:27 | _bilgus | the I squared stuff they should be able to get address pretty easy |
| 15:05:39 | braewoods | yea, i found that in the chip datasheets. |
| 15:05:47 | _bilgus | figure they had a NDA on the PP |
| 15:05:50 | braewoods | it has a finite list of possibility |
| 15:05:56 | _bilgus | so no manuals for us :( |
| 15:06:21 | braewoods | well PP is defunct so |
| 15:06:26 | braewoods | maybe we can find them somewhere |
| 15:06:32 | _bilgus | and thats the real shame huh |
| 15:06:48 | _bilgus | someone still owns that IP though |
| 15:07:02 | _bilgus | probabl china |
| 15:08:20 | braewoods | so how'd we manage what we have? |
| 15:08:24 | braewoods | OF disassembly? |
| 15:08:58 | _bilgus | pamaury liked using lua to probe the ports |
| 15:09:15 | _bilgus | assuming you can run stuff |
| 15:09:22 | braewoods | we can... |
| 15:09:30 | braewoods | the hdd6330 is a stable port |
| 15:09:44 | _bilgus | then you have everything you need to much around in there |
| 15:09:46 | braewoods | just trying to find out where some missing stuff is exposed |
| 15:09:54 | _bilgus | muck |
| 15:11:06 | braewoods | guess that's our only option |
| 15:11:13 | braewoods | there's no datasheet for the actual CPU |
| 15:11:19 | _bilgus | educated guesses |
| 15:12:10 | _bilgus | cela there is a second build upthere |
| 15:12:26 | _bilgus | it reverts speachys recent RK change just to besure |
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| 15:42:12 | braewoods | _bilgus: anyway i'm just glad this thing has dual OF so I can test it working there before checking it out in RB |
| 15:42:20 | braewoods | so i know i won't be going on a wild goose chase |
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| 17:02:13 | ulmutul | https://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20210401#09:55:48 "an aside.. a sim bug that crashes when the button queue gets full" |
| 17:03:13 | ulmutul | actually it's not a bug, it's a feature ;) I had a look into it one day, and the overflow is thrown deliberately. |
| 17:03:22 | ulmutul | _bilgus: ^ |
| 17:05:14 | ulmutul | By the way, I just tested some of my rockboxes: Samsung YH820, Samsung YH925, iPod Mini Gen1 and Creative ZEN all work with the latest firmware (not tested extensive, just starting um and playing music). |
| 17:08:56 | ulmutul | *starting up |
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| 18:12:13 | _bilgus | ulmutul, hmm ok its an intentional crash why not just shut down? |
| 18:12:24 | _bilgus | also thanks for the reports |
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| 18:20:33 | ulmutul | I assume it's there to help debugging and report that something bad (tm) is happening. IIRC the queue size is always a power of 2 and the queue pointer is constricted to this size, so that no crash can occur on a real target. |
| 18:20:40 | cela | Gone back to an unmodified build that works on Rk27xx. bisecting, compiling and testing from there, 7 steps to go,will finish tomorrow, g night. |
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| 18:22:30 | _bilgus | Cela thanke. |
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| 21:08:31 | speachy | ok, so rk27xx is a more recent regression. almost guaranteed my fault; maybe when I cut some stuff out of the PCM API? |
| 21:09:49 | _bilgus | speachy I sent two builds figuring that but I think cela just decided to bisect |
| 21:10:19 | _bilgus | I don't think any of the test builds were dl'd maybe they missed the link |
| 21:11:03 | _bilgus | which is fine too even preferasble :) |
| 21:11:03 | speachy | do you know what the player in question is? I'd like to get an rk27xx on hand |
| 21:11:41 | _bilgus | logs have a bit of info when cela was talking about it |
| 21:12:08 | _bilgus | bbiab |
| 21:14:58 | speachy | I didn't see a specific make/model number.. just "generic no-name" |
| 21:16:04 | speachy | https://www.ebay.com/itm/HiFiMAN-HM-801-NEW-The-first-portable-Hi-Fi-Music-Player-a-lot-of-accessories/ |
| 21:16:09 | speachy | .... sticker shock |
| 21:17:31 | braewoods | it must be a joke |
| 21:17:34 | braewoods | no one would pay that |
| 21:18:16 | braewoods | https://www.ebay.com/itm/HIFIMAN-HM-601-slim-express-Portable-Music-Player-4GB/233888035718 |
| 21:18:20 | braewoods | i wonder if this is related |
| 21:18:54 | speachy | hmm, hifiman 601 for $91, shipped. |
| 21:19:28 | braewoods | i just don't know if it's even using the same general chip set |
| 21:19:31 | speachy | braewoods: yeah, I had that one up already |
| 21:19:37 | speachy | it's rk27xx, yes |
| 21:19:49 | braewoods | ok... the rk27xx port was confusing as fuck |
| 21:19:57 | braewoods | it sounds like we had support for rockchip dev boards |
| 21:20:10 | braewoods | but no mention of what kind of stuff has it |
| 21:20:30 | speachy | hifiman hm60x/80x, the ihifi 760/770/770c/800 |
| 21:21:14 | braewoods | given the lack of options |
| 21:21:22 | braewoods | that player is actually compelling lol |
| 21:21:27 | braewoods | is it also flash based |
| 21:21:55 | braewoods | i've also followed iriver, seems their newer players are branded under Astell&Kern |
| 21:22:09 | braewoods | and all ridiculiously expensive |
| 21:22:16 | braewoods | many of them cost as much as a high end PC |
| 21:22:20 | speachy | that's the market for ya |
| 21:22:55 | speachy | "audiophiles" |
| 21:23:00 | braewoods | lol |
| 21:23:05 | braewoods | in any case |
| 21:23:05 | speachy | since the masses will just use their smartphones |
| 21:23:45 | braewoods | i think i'm going to try implementing a few missing features to a few ports |
| 21:24:00 | braewoods | the HDD6330 has an optional dock with a remote control |
| 21:24:03 | braewoods | i have both |
| 21:26:37 | speachy | there's also the hifi e.t. ma8/ma9 |
| 21:35:23 | speachy | https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-8GB-3-0-TFT-16-9-Screen-MP3-MP4-MP5/250353676428 |
| 21:35:31 | speachy | does this come up for anyone? |
| 21:36:04 | speachy | shows up in the search but the link doesn't work |
| 21:36:51 | braewoods | speachy: i've seen that happened a fair bit |
| 21:40:46 | braewoods | _bilgus: HDD6330 works |
| 21:43:11 | braewoods | i'm going to do a test build with ATA DMA enabled |
| 21:43:22 | braewoods | in the past it was said to hang the player but it's been 10 years |
| 21:43:28 | braewoods | it may have been fixed by now |
| 21:57:11 | _bilgus | woo |
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| 22:00:11 | _bilgus | that brings us to >50% coverage |
| 22:00:36 | _bilgus | thatd be a nice side 3effect for that bugfix |
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| 22:06:01 | braewoods | _bilgus: still hangs |
| 22:06:03 | braewoods | weird |
| 22:10:47 | braewoods | _bilgus: i think i see why no manual was written yet |
| 22:11:23 | braewoods | the buttons on the touchpad seem half-implemented |
| 22:12:01 | speachy | yeah.. I wonder if the iflash (and DMA) issues were due to this |
| 22:18:20 | braewoods | hardware may have some issues... |
| 22:18:27 | braewoods | would a HDD cause stability issues? or the battery? |
| 22:18:31 | braewoods | if they're old and such |
| 22:18:44 | _bilgus | probably not the battery |
| 22:18:47 | braewoods | i was able to boot and now it's locking up |
| 22:18:53 | braewoods | the unit got a bit hot from the HDD |
| 22:18:54 | braewoods | i guess |
| 22:18:58 | _bilgus | hdd surely could |
| 22:19:15 | braewoods | i'll let it cool off |
| 22:19:25 | braewoods | a CF mod would solve that more or less |
| 22:19:50 | _bilgus | it could also be drawing so much it browns out a weak battery but i'd assume the protection circuit would shut i down |
| 22:23:47 | braewoods | i suspect it needs some repairs |
| 22:23:51 | braewoods | in any case |
| 22:23:59 | braewoods | i'll try replacing the typical consumeables later when they arrive |
| 22:24:08 | braewoods | i had to order the batteries from china; no local supply |
| 22:24:39 | braewoods | the hardware seems to be a bit erratic so i can't draw any conclusions at present |
| 22:24:50 | braewoods | so i'll revisit this once I have done my repair work |
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| 22:25:03 | braewoods | hopefully it's just the typical |
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| 22:25:28 | braewoods | _bilgus: in short i can't be sure if it's a hardware fault or software fault so i'm just not going to to try to test it again until I have performed some repairs |
| 22:25:53 | braewoods | i need to know it's working normally before I can do any meaningful coding for it |
| 22:26:22 | braewoods | i'm leaning towardS HDD issues |
| 22:26:32 | braewoods | since it was acting a bit weird even before i booted it up |
| 22:26:38 | braewoods | err |
| 22:26:43 | braewoods | before i installed RB |
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