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| 00:27:01 | _bilgus | braewoods, why the addition of the utimebuf struct? |
| 00:27:13 | braewoods | _bilgus: see man utime |
| 00:27:28 | braewoods | https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/utime.2.html |
| 00:28:20 | braewoods | _bilgus: i would review the previous request first since the utime one depends on it |
| 00:29:31 | _bilgus | ick |
| 00:31:01 | braewoods | i was just trying to follow a standard approach for it for maximum compatibility |
| 00:32:23 | _bilgus | aren't we targeting posix though thus far? |
| 00:32:37 | braewoods | yes. utime used to be in posix but was dropped in 2008. |
| 00:32:41 | braewoods | even so it tends to stick around. |
| 00:33:07 | _bilgus | posix will want a fd and a time struct as well |
| 00:33:22 | braewoods | but it uses filenames |
| 00:33:36 | braewoods | only the newer ones can use FDs |
| 00:34:17 | _bilgus | eh you clearly are more aware of it than I |
| 00:34:41 | braewoods | well we can make our own but they're not much mroe useful than utime |
| 00:34:50 | braewoods | we don't support sub-second stuff really |
| 00:35:13 | braewoods | _bilgus: i'll look into it more, just look at my time oncversion |
| 00:36:38 | braewoods | but i can change it to allow different dirent stuff to be modded |
| 00:36:48 | braewoods | would be more flexible |
| 00:36:58 | braewoods | but i can't see anything else worth modding in metadata |
| 00:37:28 | braewoods | _bilgus: yea it's weird. readlink doesn't work with FDs. |
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| 00:47:48 | _bilgus | what about making it take two time struct pointers |
| 00:48:11 | _bilgus | atm its gonna be a pain to get into a plugin |
| 00:49:01 | braewoods | _bilgus: why? structs aren't part of the ABI per say. they can just include the header or so. |
| 00:49:54 | braewoods | i mean if it bugs ya we can just write our own version |
| 00:50:35 | _bilgus | idk I'll have speachy look at it its surely more his forte |
| 00:51:05 | braewoods | but afaik all the standard time modifying APIs use structs |
| 00:51:22 | braewoods | or an array of structs |
| 00:51:38 | _bilgus | it should match to the native stuff |
| 00:51:47 | _bilgus | thats most important |
| 00:52:02 | braewoods | we can do that at the FAT layer but use something else for the generic api |
| 00:52:09 | _bilgus | and being they are usually linux |
| 00:52:43 | _bilgus | yeah another translation layer |
| 00:52:52 | _bilgus | and two more in lua |
| 00:52:55 | _bilgus | lol |
| 00:53:19 | braewoods | i just wanted this so my ZIP files can update timestamps after finishing their extraction |
| 00:53:35 | braewoods | we could make an extension API that just wraps utime or so on real targets |
| 00:53:45 | braewoods | access time is pretty irrelevant to us as it is |
| 00:53:52 | braewoods | modtime is the only one we really care about |
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| 01:04:26 | braewoods | the other variants of utime... |
| 01:04:40 | braewoods | use struct timeval or struct timespec |
| 01:05:29 | braewoods | so afaik we would need a custom version if we wanted to use a simpler API or so. |
| 01:05:57 | braewoods | there's so many damn functions for changing these it's not even funny |
| 01:06:09 | braewoods | utime, utimes |
| 01:06:18 | braewoods | futimesat |
| 01:06:26 | braewoods | utimensat |
| 01:06:31 | braewoods | futimes |
| 01:06:45 | braewoods | futimens |
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| 01:16:08 | _bilgus | yeah I saw them all |
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| 02:20:24 | desowin | btw. https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENXFi has the same WiFI chip as sansa connect |
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| 07:37:25 | MarcAndersen | Hi. I now have a physical sansa connect in front of me, and a compiled bootloader and zsitool. Could someone please guide me through installing it so I don't brick it like my c200? |
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| 08:01:06 | MarcAndersen | I am now compiling rockbox itself |
| 08:07:48 | desowin | Sansa Connect can pretty much always be recovered as the OF bootloader is hardware write-protected |
| 08:09:06 | desowin | to start, enter recovery mode by completely powering down the device (press power button for 10 seconds) |
| 08:09:26 | MarcAndersen | And where was the power button, sorry. |
| 08:09:42 | desowin | at the top, left to the hold switch |
| 08:10:19 | desowin | it is round button |
| 08:10:22 | MarcAndersen | should hold be closest to the edge or to the power button? |
| 08:10:46 | desowin | hold is closest to the edge, power button is in the middle |
| 08:11:15 | MarcAndersen | yes, but shoudl the switch be closest to the edge to make it unlocked? |
| 08:11:33 | desowin | closest to the edge unlocks |
| 08:13:21 | desowin | to enter recovery mode, press and hold right button (above the wheel) together with volume up button (on the left side) |
| 08:13:40 | desowin | while holding the buttons, connect the device to USB |
| 08:13:44 | MarcAndersen | I try, but don't get any usb devices, maybe it's battery is dead? |
| 08:14:21 | desowin | that's possible, if the battery is low it will shut down |
| 08:14:50 | desowin | if MTP does not come up, then it's probably charging |
| 08:15:11 | desowin | if MTP comes up, then it booted OF (and not recovery mode) |
| 08:15:32 | MarcAndersen | nothing yet |
| 08:16:01 | desowin | when in recovery mode, lsusb should list 0781:7481 SanDisk Corp. Sansa Connect (in recovery mode) |
| 08:16:19 | desowin | battery can take like 30 minutes to get the initial charge |
| 08:17:02 | MarcAndersen | I will give it some time then. It was a new one from ebay, he might have had it lie around for years. It is new though. |
| 08:17:05 | desowin | when the firmware (OF or Rockbox) is not running the charging is really slow |
| 08:18:04 | MarcAndersen | But when I get it into recovery, which of all these files do I need to send to zsitool? |
| 08:18:18 | desowin | bootloader.bin |
| 08:18:36 | MarcAndersen | so ./zsitool -e bootloader.bin? |
| 08:18:42 | desowin | yes |
| 08:19:11 | MarcAndersen | I'll report back when I get that far... Thanks. It's always fun to test new ports. |
| 08:19:14 | desowin | it takes a minute or two after zsitool says done for flashing to finish |
| 08:19:38 | desowin | then you should see mass storage device with access to ext2 filesystem |
| 08:19:58 | MarcAndersen | ok. what to put there? |
| 08:20:02 | desowin | to run rockbox you can either use microsd card or format the partition to fat |
| 08:20:15 | desowin | unzip rockbox-full.zip |
| 08:20:44 | MarcAndersen | So I format ext2 as fat and copy rockbox to that. That sounds easy. |
| 08:22:06 | MarcAndersen | In an hour or so I will get someone who can see in here if it goes wrong. |
| 08:22:09 | speachy | desowin: g#3528 and g#3529 |
| 08:22:12 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3528 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3528 : builds: Move the Sansa Connect to unstable by Solomon Peachy |
| 08:22:31 | MarcAndersen | Cool |
| 08:22:59 | MarcAndersen | So then the automatic build system will begin to build it next time? |
| 08:23:50 | speachy | MarcAndersen: it's already being built with every commit; this will add it to the stuff retained nightly, and generate voice files etc. |
| 08:23:53 | MarcAndersen | I can't wait to get this working. |
| 08:24:25 | speachy | MarcAndersen: https://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansaconnect.zip |
| 08:24:39 | MarcAndersen | Nice |
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| 08:26:20 | MarcAndersen | What is the difference between bootloader.bin and bootloader-connect.sansa? I see it is 8 bytes longer? |
| 08:26:41 | desowin | header, but it's not accepted by OF bootloader |
| 08:26:46 | MarcAndersen | Oh |
| 08:26:49 | speachy | desowin: just added it to the themesite too. |
| 08:27:06 | desowin | rockbox.sansa is the main application |
| 08:27:15 | MarcAndersen | I know |
| 08:27:31 | MarcAndersen | But still no usb here |
| 08:27:56 | MarcAndersen | I'll give it some more time. |
| 08:28:29 | desowin | usb won't come up automatically, you can either press the power button or replug |
| 08:28:37 | speachy | the www change will land in ... 3 minutes. themesite will refresh on the quarter-hour after the build farm goes idle. |
| 08:28:39 | MarcAndersen | I just tried both |
| 08:29:18 | MarcAndersen | But I think I can take it from here, thanks a lot! |
| 08:29:21 | desowin | if it boots linux, then it will takes some time before usb shows up |
| 08:31:06 | desowin | and speaking of new port, I wouldn't consider sansa connect port to be new |
| 08:31:25 | desowin | it just took me 10 years to exploit OF in software only way |
| 08:31:37 | speachy | thanks to your work it's only now finally becoming usable :) |
| 08:31:58 | desowin | (maybe like 3 weeks over these 10 years, but still) |
| 08:32:49 | MarcAndersen | Yes. Also, in which source files is the voice numbers concattenated? I am going to try to make it say numbers like one and twenty instead of twenty one in danish. |
| 08:34:39 | speachy | apps/talk.c |
| 08:35:00 | speachy | Igor Poretsky has some patches in his fork that rework how numbers are spoken |
| 08:35:25 | MarcAndersen | Ok. I don't know if I am skilled enough since I mostly use autoit... But I will at least take a look on how it does it now. |
| 08:36:42 | MarcAndersen | How exactly do I get patches? Sorry if this is a stupid question. |
| 08:37:49 | speachy | https://github.com/poretsky/rockbox/commit/f6de0015d55766402167d66a15b0e8179c5fc66a |
| 08:37:55 | speachy | https://github.com/poretsky/rockbox/commit/f6de0015d55766402167d66a15b0e8179c5fc66a |
| 08:38:16 | speachy | https://github.com/poretsky/rockbox/commit/73daf7da4df5fcb15c0f6d6206b83a7723b2c775 |
| 08:38:28 | speachy | (ignore the duplicate please) |
| 08:38:56 | MarcAndersen | How do I apply these? |
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| 08:54:32 | speachy | MarcAndersen: give me a few, I'm trying to rebase them against our current tree. |
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| 09:02:24 | MarcAndersen | I still have no usb connection unfortunately |
| 09:02:38 | MarcAndersen | Maybe this device is dead... |
| 09:03:20 | _bilgus | I'd start checking cables |
| 09:04:04 | MarcAndersen | It is this special sandisk cable that came with it. Like the 30 pin connector but not the same. |
| 09:04:40 | MarcAndersen | Oh maybe the one from my c200 fits, just a second |
| 09:04:45 | desowin | it might be OF welcome screen, press right (above the wheel) like 10 times and then press upper part of the wheel |
| 09:05:13 | _bilgus | speachy when you get a chance can you look over g#3527 Its over my head looks fine but would like your expert opinion |
| 09:05:15 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3527 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3527 : file/fat: add utime function by James Buren |
| 09:05:59 | MarcAndersen | Still nothing |
| 09:07:10 | MarcAndersen | I'll have sighted assistance here in 10 minutes or so anyway, so we can find out what's wrong with this beast. |
| 09:07:36 | speachy | MarcAndersen: https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3530 |
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| 09:08:13 | speachy | there's a 'download' link on the right side below the "merge conflicts" pane, cut-n-paste the "cherry pick" instructions. |
| 09:10:21 | speachy | and the themesite refreshed, 67 themes seem to pass checkwps on the Connect |
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| 09:11:31 | MarcAndersen | I will look at this time and date thing after I get the thing to boot. |
| 09:12:05 | speachy | it'll appear on build.rockbox.org on the _next_ build. |
| 09:12:25 | speachy | and voice files will generate tonigh |
| 09:12:27 | MarcAndersen | So it is merged into master now? |
| 09:13:57 | speachy | _bilgus: I think it looks okay? |
| 09:14:33 | speachy | MarcAndersen: Connect builds, I mean. that timedate patch is not, having only been compile tested on a single target so far |
| 09:15:05 | speachy | (well, it's been in Poretsky's tree for some time, and on my list to port/merge, but I need to at least _run_ it first..) |
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| 09:16:53 | MarcAndersen | I just got sighted assistance here. It says a |
| 09:17:07 | speachy | MarcAndersen: that patch probably doesn't do what you want, but it should indicate a path forward. |
| 09:17:11 | MarcAndersen | sandisk, then low battery, and then it dies. |
| 09:18:58 | _bilgus | battery is probably too discharged to safely charge |
| 09:19:09 | desowin | keep it connected, don't mess with it |
| 09:19:15 | desowin | the power button should be blue |
| 09:19:28 | MarcAndersen | It is |
| 09:19:32 | desowin | do not press power button as every time you do so it discharges more |
| 09:19:36 | speachy | MarcAndersen: there isn't currently a mechanism to selectively reorder generic numeric voicing. |
| 09:19:48 | desowin | OF bootloader drains more current than gets from USB |
| 09:20:13 | desowin | so the only way to get initial charge is to pateintly wait |
| 09:20:36 | MarcAndersen | Ok |
| 09:20:46 | speachy | if anyone could comment on g#3530 I'd appreciate it. I combined two independent patches due to how they were related and stacked. |
| 09:20:48 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3530 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3530 : Time and date format unification (Igor Poretsky) by Solomon Peachy |
| 09:20:57 | _bilgus | if a day of charge doesn't bring it back then you can try manually charging it use another liion battery and a resistor in a fire safe area |
| 09:21:26 | MarcAndersen | Is the battery replacable in this thing? |
| 09:21:29 | desowin | no |
| 09:21:35 | desowin | what is the serial number on the back? |
| 09:21:41 | _bilgus | yes just not easily |
| 09:21:43 | desowin | next to FCC logo |
| 09:23:24 | speachy | MarcAndersen: would the "five and twenty" spoken ordering for Danish also apply to how years are voiced? |
| 09:24:37 | MarcAndersen | I think so, the only real difference is the ones first and then the tens, so two thousand one and twenty is fine, or maybe two thousand and one and twenty |
| 09:25:20 | MarcAndersen | Serial: UZB-ES20070309 |
| 09:26:37 | _bilgus | he even added date and time to chessbox :) |
| 09:26:38 | speachy | rockbox's year voicing currently reads "2021" as "twenty twenty one" −− would it need to be "two thousand one and twenty" ? |
| 09:26:59 | desowin | MarcAndersen: this is FCC ID, the serial is painted above it (in very hard to read color) |
| 09:27:35 | MarcAndersen | I would say. Maybe rasher or someone else from Denmark can verify. |
| 09:28:20 | speachy | I'm curious about the expectations/norms of other languages too |
| 09:28:27 | MarcAndersen | BH0705SZ1017860 |
| 09:30:58 | speachy | and with that patch it becomes "twenty hundred twenty-one" |
| 09:31:04 | rasher | Pronouncing numbers for different languages sounds like a hard problem. |
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| 09:31:29 | rasher | In Danish you'd either want "two thousand one-twenty" or "twenty one-twenty" |
| 09:32:16 | speachy | braewoods: ^^^ 343 warnings. :) |
| 09:32:18 | MarcAndersen | That sounds ok. It's hard to say without listening to it |
| 09:32:49 | speachy | rasher: and that same convention is used for years? |
| 09:32:52 | desowin | MarcAndersen: it should have the old bootloader so once you get into recovery mode everything should go smoothly |
| 09:33:38 | desowin | (new one in refurbished units should work as well, but I just didn't get anyone to report) |
| 09:34:45 | speachy | I'm thinking it owuld be relatively simple to add a "one-and-twenty" vs "twenty-one" rule, but the question is if there are other quirks that need to be handled too. |
| 09:35:17 | rasher | speachy: Actually that would be the convention for years. "twenty one-and-twenty" would be odd for a regular number |
| 09:35:33 | MarcAndersen | Sure |
| 09:35:55 | MarcAndersen | I always say two thousand one and twenty here |
| 09:35:57 | rasher | So two-thousand one-and-twenty is the safest bet |
| 09:36:27 | _bilgus | speachy https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3530/1/apps/talk.c#1213 |
| 09:37:15 | _bilgus | oh nm |
| 09:37:20 | _bilgus | 0 and '0' |
| 09:37:25 | speachy | so this patch's unifacion of "year" and "number" pronounciations is misguided. |
| 09:38:31 | speachy | _bilgus: I'd think fractions should always be spoken digit-by-digit, so we don't end up with 0.000512 as " point zero zero zero five hundred twelve " |
| 09:38:56 | MarcAndersen | that's right. after the point everything is digits. |
| 09:39:39 | MarcAndersen | I'm going out for a few hours. Let's hope my sansa is awake when I come back... |
| 09:40:01 | _bilgus | agreed |
| 09:42:05 | _bilgus | ha, https://www.dw.com/en/eu-fines-german-carmakers-over-alleged-cartel-activities/a-58158329 |
| 09:42:30 | _bilgus | wanna a cheap car buy a diesel gate VW |
| 09:44:09 | _bilgus | buddy has this nice turbo diesel bug I sure hope their rust proofing is good the metal work leaves things to be desired |
| 09:44:43 | speachy | I'm gonig to pull out the fractional fixes into a separate patch. |
| 09:45:14 | _bilgus | oops i'm in the wrong channel sorry |
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| 09:55:46 | speachy | _bilgus: g#3531 is the fractional rework |
| 09:55:48 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3531 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3531 : talk: Always read out fractional values digit-by-digit by Solomon Peachy |
| 09:59:53 | _bilgus | is tbuf limited to numbers only? whats it do with malformed input '/' |
| 09:59:58 | speachy | wait, that's what talk_spell already does. that patch is.. pointless. |
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| 10:04:53 | speachy | wtf...? |
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| 10:19:08 | braewoods | speachy: wtf indeed? |
| 10:19:42 | speachy | next question. for voiced 24-hour format time, in English at least the convention is "21:00" is voiced as "twenty-one hundred hours" −− 3530 changes that to "twenty-one o'clock" which isn't correct for English, but what about non-English? |
| 10:19:42 | _bilgus | the law of unintended consequence? |
| 10:20:14 | speachy | braewoods: the build going now is a reversion of my "fix", and a correct fix is queued. |
| 10:20:36 | braewoods | speachy: ah. i didn't know the fat header was even used on non-native ports |
| 10:20:42 | _bilgus | if you do oclock thats only for 12hr time then? |
| 10:20:46 | braewoods | because why would it be? |
| 10:20:49 | * | braewoods boggles. |
| 10:21:14 | speachy | yeah, I tried nuking it as a fix but apparently the dirent structs are used in the file API. |
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| 10:21:59 | braewoods | what's the warning? utimbuf? |
| 10:22:15 | braewoods | i can revamp my API choice if it'd help |
| 10:22:16 | speachy | yeah, that needs to comie from #including utime.h |
| 10:22:46 | braewoods | you can revert my PR and i'll work on a new version |
| 10:22:49 | speachy | _bilgus: o'clock is 12h only, at least for English. |
| 10:22:52 | braewoods | err commit |
| 10:23:07 | braewoods | i didn't realize utime would be this muchfuss |
| 10:23:34 | speachy | the current build running should go all green. |
| 10:23:39 | braewoods | oh. |
| 10:23:42 | braewoods | ok. |
| 10:24:02 | braewoods | bilgus was wanting some rework done |
| 10:24:15 | braewoods | i just wanted to wait until today since it was so late :P |
| 10:24:37 | _bilgus | so just pull head and start from there, stick to the prescribed interface will worry about the api later.. |
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| 10:25:26 | braewoods | i had an alternative in time, our own "modtime" function or so. |
| 10:25:35 | braewoods | takes a single time_t and either a path or FD. |
| 10:25:37 | speachy | so can any non-english speakers comment on 12/24h spoken time conventions |
| 10:27:15 | _bilgus | well you said posix pulled it so I'd stick to the native interface |
| 10:27:32 | braewoods | i'll update it |
| 10:27:53 | braewoods | we don't really use modtime |
| 10:28:01 | braewoods | err |
| 10:28:04 | braewoods | atime |
| 10:28:14 | _bilgus | for good reason.. |
| 10:30:02 | speachy | 0900 would be "oh-nine-hundred hours". 1923 would be "nineteen twenty three hours" |
| 10:33:18 | braewoods | i'll work on this some more |
| 10:33:47 | braewoods | i'll see if this works with an existing FD or not |
| 10:34:02 | braewoods | truth is i don't know if the closing flush will overwrite my attempts to set the time |
| 10:34:14 | braewoods | so that's one thing i'd need to consider |
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| 10:37:20 | speachy | ok, those remaining warnings are in teh android port. |
| 10:37:44 | braewoods | don't worry about it speachy, i'll work on fixing this need for utimbuf or w/e |
| 10:38:23 | braewoods | we can implement our own "modtime" for w/e else using the native APIs and don't need to emulate it for native |
| 10:38:59 | braewoods | just my first time messing with the FAT internals so not surprised there were some hiccups |
| 10:40:39 | braewoods | what do we plan to do when 2038 hits? |
| 10:40:46 | braewoods | most of our time_t are 32 bit signed |
| 10:41:00 | braewoods | assuming rockbox is even still relevant then |
| 10:41:33 | braewoods | oddly dos timestamps are pretty future proof up to around 2100 or so |
| 10:49:35 | braewoods | ok... basic redesign done. next up... |
| 10:52:24 | braewoods | time to see if i can use an existing FD |
| 10:54:16 | braewoods | i'll probably have to trigger a flush before doing my work |
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| 11:47:56 | speachy | huh. the simulator builds fine with LTO. |
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| 12:21:47 | spork | sent you a more working link, amachronic |
| 12:23:23 | amachronic | thanks, got it. |
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| 12:27:51 | braewoods | speachy, _bilgus: small problem in my tests. i managed to write a FD version of "modtime" but it doesn't work at all with write enabled FDs. it only works with read only ones. i have two options. i can add some kind of override inside of FAT to apply a different set of timestamps during the close process or just consider modtime as only a good idea during a separate file phase. in which case i'd |
| 12:27:53 | braewoods | switch back to taking a file path since it's pretty pointless to take a FD if you don't work on both kinds. |
| 12:29:20 | braewoods | i'm leaning towards the latter due to how narrow the use case for this is. i don't think it's a good idea to introduce hacks into the FAT driver to accomodate this. |
| 12:29:33 | braewoods | thoughts? |
| 12:31:23 | braewoods | it's funny how it's a problem even when i don't write anything during closing |
| 12:31:29 | braewoods | err before |
| 12:31:37 | braewoods | i just open for writing |
| 12:34:07 | desowin | g#3535 |
| 12:34:09 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3535 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3535 : DM320: Regorganize LCD and TTB memory layout by Tomasz Moń |
| 12:34:37 | desowin | this trades off the (MMU) 1 MiB alignment for 858 KiB larger audio buffer |
| 12:34:58 | desowin | as we don't do anything with MMU, I strongly favor larger audio buffer |
| 12:37:11 | speachy | braewoods: tailor it for the specific use case until we have a need for sometihng more general. |
| 12:38:01 | braewoods | ok. i'll just have it work as a separate open phase. |
| 12:38:20 | braewoods | that won't require me to modify how we flush data. i'm concerned i'd introduce new bugs by doing so. |
| 12:38:58 | braewoods | thanks |
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| 12:49:36 | MarcAndersen | This stupid connect still says battery low |
| 12:54:41 | desowin | I had mine discharged for few years and then just plugging it for a day did the trick |
| 12:55:05 | desowin | that is, get from bootloader to firmware and only then it actually charges properly |
| 12:55:18 | MarcAndersen | Ok. Waiting time... |
| 12:55:29 | desowin | you might want to not enter recovery mode before it is fully charged |
| 12:55:45 | MarcAndersen | That sounds like a good idea |
| 12:56:27 | desowin | just boot OF and leave it charging, if there's welcome screen just keep pressing right and then upper part of the wheel |
| 12:56:44 | desowin | OF menu scrolling should be audible |
| 12:56:52 | braewoods | speachy: https://twitter.com/noradotcodes/status/1412741339771461635?s=21 did you see this? |
| 12:56:58 | braewoods | if true oh boy. |
| 12:57:19 | braewoods | their software may be assisting in copyright or license infringement. |
| 12:57:33 | MarcAndersen | Only sandisk, battery low, then loop forever |
| 12:58:28 | desowin | that's still in bootloader, not even booting linux (which I call OF) |
| 12:58:32 | speachy | yep. I'll leave the folks with deeper pockets to take them to task. |
| 12:58:58 | MarcAndersen | Ok. So I should just wait forever? |
| 12:59:41 | desowin | probably leave it overnight and check tomorrow it is is any better |
| 12:59:47 | braewoods | MarcAndersen: no idea. your unit's battery may be completely worn out. hard to say at this point. |
| 12:59:47 | MarcAndersen | Will do |
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| 13:00:15 | braewoods | i usually replace batteries in used electronics if i can, especially if i'm planning to keep them. |
| 13:00:18 | desowin | OF bootloader has a bug in it regarding the charging |
| 13:00:40 | MarcAndersen | Which bug |
| 13:00:55 | desowin | getting out of the low battery is taking very long, then when in proper firmware it works |
| 13:01:07 | desowin | that they mention in linux init scripts ;-) |
| 13:01:24 | MarcAndersen | My ipod classic 6g and zen x-fi does something simular |
| 13:02:44 | desowin | also if you get into recovery mode and leave it connected, it'll eventually drain the battery and get you to the low battery problem again |
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| 13:02:58 | desowin | so first step is just to try to boot OF and charge it |
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| 13:51:32 | braewoods | g#3536 |
| 13:51:34 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3536 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3536 : file/fat: rework utime function as modtime extension by James Buren |
| 13:51:49 | braewoods | This is my reworking. It should be a minor improvement and good enough for now. |
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| 14:20:07 | braewoods | _bilgus: you mentioned wanting to use this for themes. did you have any ideas for how that would work? |
| 14:21:10 | braewoods | if all the theme files are loaded into RAM, we could just load from the ZIP instead of extracting them. |
| 14:22:01 | braewoods | for now i'm just going to focus on my use case |
| 14:22:22 | braewoods | but there's nothing stopping us from adding custom loaders that use this to load files directly into RAM from an archive |
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| 15:57:28 | LiteralBrainlet | howdy fellas |
| 15:57:45 | LiteralBrainlet | I have a problem installing RB on my iPod Classic 6gen |
| 15:58:31 | LiteralBrainlet | I get stuck on |
| 15:58:49 | LiteralBrainlet | "action required press and hold select + menu" |
| 15:59:50 | LiteralBrainlet | In the past I successfully got the software on the iPod manually using a friend's mac, but even after hard resetting the device I'm still stuck with Apple's OS |
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| 16:00:14 | LiteralBrainlet | A1238 - 160gb version |
| 16:08:00 | braewoods | LiteralBrainlet: so what does that come after? |
| 16:45:39 | LiteralBrainlet | oh fuck disregard, after 2 years of attempts I finally got it to work |
| 16:46:22 | LiteralBrainlet | Although, whenever I plug the device into my PC Windows prompts me to format it |
| 16:46:56 | braewoods | erm. you usually need to format iPods with windows itunes so it'll be FAT based. |
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| 17:07:44 | LiteralBrainlet | I did. I originally formatted it as FAT32, but now it keeps telling me to do it again. I don't think it matters because I can still move music files onto the iPod |
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| 17:53:34 | speachy | sweet. Got the X3 compiling cleanly with LTO! |
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| 17:56:28 | speachy | just the main binary, plugins are shot. |
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| 18:35:32 | _bilgus | braewoods, for the time being its fine just to unpack to a directory we can integrate later |
| 18:43:30 | braewoods | _bilgus: ok. i'm just waiting for my next review. |
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| 18:54:00 | _bilgus | i'm looking at it but busy atm |
| 18:55:02 | braewoods | ok |
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| 19:05:34 | _bilgus | that'll be much easier since its custom you might wanna add flags to hit atime or at least have the flag in the proto |
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| 20:37:33 | braewoods | speachy: isn't it a bit early for LTO? |
| 20:50:32 | speachy | the core is solid. the X3 main binary shrinks by ~4%. |
| 20:50:50 | speachy | I have some codecs and plugins building, but others are going boom for a reason I don't yet understand. |
| 20:55:01 | _bilgus | how does that work with plugins and codecs sharing the same address space? |
| 20:55:36 | speachy | it's just fancy compile-time crap; it still has to confirm to the appropriate link map |
| 20:57:02 | _bilgus | I'm surprised it works at all tbh |
| 20:57:05 | speachy | what's going on (I think) is that the LTO is stripping out the codeclib's memcpy() |
| 20:57:19 | speachy | because we force -nostdlib etc |
| 20:57:51 | speachy | what surprised me is that LTO on the main (X3) binary only generated a single warning. |
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| 21:16:09 | braewoods | speachy: what does rockbox do with trailing slashes in path? |
| 21:16:17 | braewoods | is |
| 21:16:24 | braewoods | /a/b/c the same as /a/b/c/? |
| 21:16:51 | speachy | if it's a directory, I don't think it matters. but that trailing slash is an illegal filename. |
| 21:19:05 | speachy | but, as always, use the source, luke.. |
| 21:41:05 | braewoods | strange seeing a function return ssize_t when it can't return negatives by design |
| 21:44:00 | _bilgus | some of those are because of sticking to prototypes others might be erroneous |
| 21:45:14 | braewoods | it's kinda moot anyway since unless we deal with RAM above 2GB we'd never hit it |
| 21:47:02 | braewoods | found a small optimization for my code for path construction |
| 21:47:27 | braewoods | by writing the root directory only once i can reduce some extraneous writes, saving a bit of time |
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