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| 03:14:05 | munkis | I'm an idiot, I brought uzziyah back up but forgot to run the build script |
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| 06:45:09 | speachy | _bilgus: the stuff I put up on my web space is from clang's scan-build and isn't interactive, but the coverity stuff is, with a 3-pane interface that lets one change dispositions, add notes, etc. |
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| 07:00:40 | speachy | munkis: I see that it reconnected at ~0312 localtime. |
| 07:02:21 | speachy | braewoods: it could be memory-mapped onto the system bus somewhere, but without schematics or tracing the PCB you may be forced to resort to guesswork or go the disasm route on the original firmware. |
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| 08:28:39 | braewoods | speachy: ok. i'm just going to try my best guess for now. |
| 08:29:08 | braewoods | most likely connection method is i2c |
| 08:29:32 | braewoods | i'll try poking some of its registers and see what comes up. |
| 08:38:36 | speachy | the gigabeast is an IMX31 part or something like that? not a PortalPlayer? |
| 08:39:05 | braewoods | speachy: yep |
| 08:39:08 | speachy | not that I recall either having a dedicated I/O port |
| 08:39:38 | braewoods | from the pcb scans it appears there's no way to access pins for probing |
| 08:40:09 | braewoods | BGA mounted that i can tell |
| 08:44:05 | speachy | looking at the datasheet for that part, it looks like the control bus is I2C, yeah. |
| 08:48:55 | speachy | there's probably a self-test mode that outputs color bars or someting like that. |
| 08:49:06 | braewoods | yea, the DS mentioned it |
| 08:49:13 | braewoods | i plan to use it for establishing if i'm getting anywehre |
| 08:49:27 | speachy | yep |
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| 09:43:22 | _bilgus | speachy I dont have this.. |
| 09:44:28 | _bilgus | 2 pane interface and it only brings me to the bug won'y let me edit fields at all |
| 09:44:50 | _bilgus | i'll try a different browser |
| 09:47:26 | _bilgus | hmm apparently its that Firefox doesn't do the third pane |
| 09:47:55 | _bilgus | oh nope just needed to drag it back :) |
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| 16:10:06 | bluebrother | what do people think about moving the manual from LaTeX to Sphinx? |
| 16:10:52 | bluebrother | LaTeX is great, but somewhat complicated, and the HTML output is ... well, not so nice. With Sphinx we could go html-first, and create pdf via LaTeX. |
| 16:11:45 | bluebrother | I've been looking at it a bit, we'd need to recreate all those custom macros, but apart from the optional stuff handling this shouldn't be too big an issue. |
| 16:13:04 | bluebrother | as for the optional stuff we could add some preprocessor step. Sphinx allows adding something like that as an extension. Would be not really in line with Sphinx though. But it's doable. We could even make that read rockbox-info.txt instead of passing things in. |
| 16:15:58 | braewoods | wouldn't we be giving up the power of latex? |
| 16:16:50 | braewoods | i mean, we're not using it for books but at the same time do we need that much power? |
| 16:17:01 | braewoods | do we need the ability to control typesetting to that extent? |
| 16:17:42 | braewoods | one might say we could drop PDF entirely and move to a single file HTML or a downloadable archive. |
| 16:17:57 | braewoods | or something like that. |
| 16:18:33 | braewoods | do we really need PDF versions? |
| 16:18:37 | bluebrother | well, I'd say LaTeX gives us a lot of options in the typesetting area, but we don't really use them. |
| 16:18:45 | bluebrother | though the output is pretty :) |
| 16:19:28 | bluebrother | might be interesting to have numbers how often the html manual is accessed and how often the pdf downloaded |
| 16:19:30 | braewoods | HTML also means we could add scripting if we have cause to |
| 16:19:54 | braewoods | i mostly use the PDF version for having a single searchable page |
| 16:22:21 | bluebrother | sphinx already includes some javascript search thingy. |
| 16:22:45 | bluebrother | so the main advantage of pdf is that it's a single file you can copy more easily. And it looks nicer for printing |
| 16:28:36 | braewoods | can it generate epubs? |
| 16:29:06 | braewoods | imagine that, it can |
| 16:35:52 | bluebrother | there's an option, but I never tried that. |
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| 16:48:13 | bluebrother | ok, tried it, works. Only the css tweaks I was playing with to make the colors match better to the Rockbox site don't work :) |
| 16:53:29 | bluebrother | kinda neat :) |
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| 17:07:21 | braewoods | bluebrother: epub support isn't super common but it is built with web tech. |
| 17:07:32 | braewoods | it's a viable option for "ebook" versions. |
| 17:13:44 | bluebrother | braewoods: https://imgur.com/a/dx7mVj4 |
| 17:14:14 | braewoods | ah |
| 17:14:56 | bluebrother | but that's only showing the 1st page, that one was easy to get look correctly :) |
| 17:15:45 | braewoods | but isn't this expected? |
| 17:15:56 | braewoods | if we're switching to a new system it's bound to need tweaking |
| 17:16:05 | bluebrother | sure |
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| 17:17:27 | bluebrother | the main question is if it's worth the work I guess. |
| 17:17:58 | braewoods | maybe in the future. for now it's probably best left alone. |
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| 17:20:51 | bluebrother | the future is now :) |
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| 17:52:21 | speachy | bluebrother: "patches welcome" :D |
| 17:53:43 | speachy | the html output of our existing system leaves a lot to be desired, but the PDF output is quite nice. |
| 17:53:59 | speachy | that said, I suspect html output is actually used a lot more often, which isn't saying much. |
| 17:54:47 | speachy | and I suspect by the time we recreate the current tooling in sphinx (or whatever) it won't quite be so nice and simple any more |
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| 19:35:29 | speachy | in the end though.. I don't think latex vs sphinx will really matter insofar as nobody wants to write documentation regardless of its format. |
| 19:36:30 | speachy | and it would be _really_ nice if the keymaps in the source code could get pulled into the manuals. |
| 19:37:08 | speachy | that's probably the biggest PITA involved in updating the manual for an additional port. |
| 19:37:28 | speachy | (the second being capturing screenshot upon screenshot..) |
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