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| 00:50:19 | munkis | interesting it appears to be a missing define of С which breaks it, but copying in the definition from utf8enc.dfu gets me an "undefined control sequence <arguement> \protect" error |
| 00:51:18 | munkis | С being a cyrillic capital. |
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| 01:03:25 | _bilgus | Id ask if you were talking greek |
| 01:03:39 | _bilgus | um what if your install is broken |
| 01:03:52 | _bilgus | can you reinstall texlive? |
| 01:04:48 | _bilgus | when I did so it built a bunch of control things I hadn't seen prior |
| 01:21:18 | _bilgus | https://www.latex-project.org/news/2020/07/22/latex-dev-2020-10-1b/ |
| 01:22:43 | _bilgus | specifically https://www.latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews32.pdf |
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| 01:24:33 | _bilgus | ix capital accents in Unicode engines |
| 01:24:34 | _bilgus | In Unicode engines the capital accents such as |
| 01:24:34 | _bilgus | \capitalcedilla, etc., have been implemented as |
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| 01:24:34 | _bilgus | trivial shorthands for the normal accents (because other |
| 01:24:34 | _bilgus | than Computer Modern virtually no fonts support |
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| 01:24:34 | _bilgus | –2 |
| 01:24:36 | _bilgus | them), but that failed when hyperref got loaded. This |
| 01:24:38 | _bilgus | has been corrected. (github issue 332 |
| 01:25:11 | _bilgus | sounds pretty similar |
| 01:26:12 | _bilgus | https://github.com/latex3/latex2e/issues/332 |
| 01:26:21 | _bilgus | munkis? |
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| 02:37:17 | spork | i have set 'create bookmark' as my WPS hotkey option in settings, but when i press this hotkey i get the message 'Bookmark Failed!'. |
| 02:37:28 | spork | this on the Shanling Q1 |
| 02:37:46 | spork | are there any (bookmark-related) settings i would need to use before bookmarking works ? |
| 02:40:09 | spork | when i do the same on the FiiO M3K, it says 'Bookmark Created', even if 'Maintain a List of Recent Bookmarks' is off and no actual bookmark is saved |
| 02:41:25 | spork | on both devices i have 'Maintain a List of Recent Bookmarks' set to 'One per track' and the M3K works, the Q1 does not |
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| 03:06:53 | munkis | sorry I was elsewhere, I updated texlive on the 19th, but I can try removing and reinstalling it |
| 03:35:41 | munkis | yup a reinstall (version from 2021-02) didn't help. |
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| 04:02:26 | yang | _bilgus: thanks for the headphones advice |
| 04:09:16 | paulcarroty | yang: ping me when your sony will arrive, interested how shitty they are 🤪 |
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| 04:58:26 | yang | paulcarroty: will do |
| 04:58:37 | Ctcp | Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 2 days and 5 hours at the last flood |
| 04:58:37 | * | yang doesn't have a 100% hearing |
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| 07:34:57 | speachy | well, so much to that idea. |
| 07:35:26 | speachy | the HibyOS-based hosted stuff doesn't support double-buffered framebuffer operation. |
| 07:56:26 | speachy | I wonder if any of our other hosted stuff does. |
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| 08:18:15 | munkis | I've turned off latex until I can figure it out. |
| 08:18:34 | munkis | you my want to deblacklist uzziyah. |
| 08:19:46 | speachy | done |
| 08:21:34 | munkis | btw: I don't check the logs very often, if it acts up pinging me is a good idea. |
| 08:23:43 | speachy | I wonder if I should just commit this double-buffered framebuffer code without any in-tree users. |
| 08:25:15 | munkis | if you do I may actually get back to work on that landscape thing i was thinking about. |
| 08:25:32 | munkis | what was the purpose of it anyway? |
| 08:26:40 | speachy | trying to improve display responsiveness on the X3ii and other hosted platforms |
| 08:27:03 | speachy | the x3ii is particularly bad; there's often visible lag/tearing in what's displayed. |
| 08:27:33 | speachy | but the underlying hardware driver doesn't support it, |
| 08:28:13 | speachy | munkis: btw, it looks like uzziyah is still trying to repeatedly connect, and is getting kicked off due to already being registered. |
| 08:28:23 | speachy | do you have more than one client trying to go? |
| 08:38:34 | munkis | turns out killing the client is harder then I thought. |
| 08:38:58 | munkis | I just rebooted the box, which is a royal pain. |
| 08:44:10 | speachy | systemd! |
| 08:44:56 | speachy | if you're running your builder on a box that is using systemd, it is pretty trivial to have it set up as a service. I can send you the unit file I'm running if you'd like. |
| 08:46:28 | speachy | oh, I also upgraded gerrit last night |
| 08:46:41 | speachy | security bugfixes |
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| 08:48:18 | munkis | it's up and not writing kicks so should be good. |
| 08:48:34 | munkis | the issue was that I killed the pl but not the sh. |
| 08:48:42 | speachy | yeah |
| 08:49:12 | munkis | yeah I would appreciate thee unit. |
| 08:49:48 | speachy | munkis: https://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rbbuild.service |
| 08:49:54 | munkis | thanks |
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| 08:56:02 | _bilgus | Lets put it to work then :P |
| 08:57:19 | * | speachy listens to the fans spool up. |
| 08:58:08 | munkis | huh funny thing my other box just went heavily to fan for no apparent reason |
| 08:58:41 | _bilgus | pavlovian response?? |
| 08:58:51 | speachy | feels left out |
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| 09:05:49 | speachy | the builder I added to the main server is only using 4 cores. should be enough to help without slowing anything else down. |
| 09:12:19 | _bilgus | did b0hoon 's builders come back up? |
| 09:12:33 | speachy | yep |
| 09:12:44 | speachy | last few going now |
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| 09:14:39 | _bilgus | type safety who needs that |
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| 09:49:03 | speachy | I'm thinking it's time to recompute the 'scores' in the build list. |
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| 10:03:35 | speachy | the rasoning behind the score/point system is probably lost to the sands of time but I think it's just an arbitrary number that reflects the relative work required to build that target |
| 10:04:27 | speachy | so the absolute values don't matter as long as they're all generated using the same builder |
| 10:06:59 | speachy | ...and without ccache |
| 10:08:37 | munkis | huh I thought it was to find builders that need maintenance |
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| 10:12:48 | dritann | Hi |
| 10:13:25 | speachy | the builder maintains a points rate for each builder, and uses that to work out its relative performance and determine when a given build is considered "late" |
| 10:13:50 | dritann | Si jeni |
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| 12:00:50 | speachy | _bilgus: hey, if you have some spare time, I'd appreciate it if you could try out the updated X3 bootloader |
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| 12:16:04 | amachronic | _bilgus trying g#3738 now but I think there's a mix up, isn't it what you just reverted? |
| 12:16:07 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3738 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3738 : lcd_putsxyofs 16 bit lcd_mono_bitmap_part [AS] part duex by William Wilgus |
| 12:20:52 | amachronic | ok it works I see the check is moved up a bit |
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| 13:00:08 | amachronic | somebody reported yesterday that toggling EQ enable from the quickscreen was not working |
| 13:01:09 | amachronic | i have a fix in gerrit but it seems the cause of the problem is munkis removed settings_apply() from the quickscreen to work around another bug. |
| 13:02:14 | amachronic | but I dunno if it is better to restore the settings_apply() or go and fix every potentially broken option. |
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| 13:18:19 | munkis | oops, I do remember discussing side effects |
| 13:21:39 | munkis | If i am correctly reading the discussion at the time bilgus seemed to say that we should fix settings as they come up |
| 13:24:51 | amachronic | sounds fine to me |
| 13:26:08 | amachronic | but imho some things that are in the global settings shouldn't really be used in the way that some code uses them |
| 13:26:57 | munkis | are all settings quickscreenable? |
| 13:27:41 | munkis | a quick grep suggests ~85 setting in apps/settings_list.c without callbacks. |
| 13:27:51 | amachronic | i don't know the settings code well enough but there's a flag F_BANFROMQS so I imagine anything without that flag is quickscreenable |
| 13:28:04 | * | munkis facepalms |
| 13:28:42 | amachronic | touch_mode is a good example of global settings abuse |
| 13:29:01 | amachronic | i think the fg/bg color problem that you were trying to fix is probably another case |
| 13:29:14 | amachronic | ie. stuff that is more of a runtime state we push/pop to override it locally |
| 13:29:46 | amachronic | obviously if it gets changed then popping and restoring old state is bound to cause problems |
| 13:30:50 | munkis | that was because originally it needed to be global. |
| 13:33:13 | amachronic | at least not all the settings that are missing callbacks need them. |
| 13:34:03 | amachronic | it's just finding which do need them is tedious |
| 13:38:52 | munkis | I'm assuming F_ALLOW_ARBITRARY_VALS is also not QS friendly? |
| 13:41:47 | amachronic | quickscreen.c is_setting_quickscreenable() determines what can go |
| 13:55:44 | spork | amachronic: i think that bookmark thing is a result of confusing settings and user-error |
| 13:56:01 | spork | it is not related to attempting it from the wps hotkey |
| 13:56:26 | spork | remains weird that this is the only place (for me) the yes/no screen does not work |
| 13:58:07 | amachronic | that's still a problem? |
| 13:59:26 | spork | yea, for instance on the 'delete bookmark' option it works fine |
| 13:59:39 | spork | on m3k and q1 the same |
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| 14:01:01 | amachronic | I hoped this fixed it https://git.rockbox.org/cgit/rockbox.git/commit/?id=69420e796c |
| 14:01:28 | spork | it briefly flashes and then the screen is empty |
| 14:01:51 | spork | no green/red yes/no in rectangles visible |
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| 14:05:52 | amachronic | it seems to work for me if go to the bookmark menu from the WPS, afaict deleting a bookmark is the only yes/no screen. |
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| 14:06:45 | amachronic | does it still act like the yes no screen but there's simply no buttons drawn? |
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| 14:07:37 | spork | using the buttons it does, for touch it does not on the q1 |
| 14:08:12 | spork | i have set 'bookmark on stop' to ask |
| 14:08:58 | spork | and 'maintain a list' to anything but 'no' of course |
| 14:10:35 | spork | using long 'play' on the wps to 'stop' |
| 14:12:05 | spork | actually, i think the touch also works, i might have 'clicked' outside of the invisible 'no' button |
| 14:12:46 | spork | so the problem is only that the prompt+yes/no itself disappears |
| 14:13:29 | amachronic | alright I see it now. |
| 14:13:31 | amachronic | thanks |
| 14:14:15 | amachronic | it does seem to respond to input correctly but the drawing is screwed up |
| 14:14:33 | spork | it does get drawn but is gone almost immediately |
| 14:15:05 | spork | when i was trying to reproduce it also happened on the q1 sim |
| 14:15:10 | spork | did not try m3k sim |
| 14:17:56 | spork | the bookmarking issue i asked about earlier must have been bad settings, though i do not see which |
| 14:22:04 | spork | rockbox is really nice on both the m3k and q1. the extra power makes it a different experience than years of clip+ use |
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| 14:58:36 | speachy | dconrad: do you have a copy of the stock erosq bootloader binary you can toss my way? |
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| 15:08:19 | dconrad_web | speachy: would our hosted bootloader suffice? |
| 15:08:36 | dconrad_web | since it still boots the linux firmware |
| 15:08:38 | speachy | no, I mean the one we're overwriting for the native port |
| 15:09:05 | dconrad_web | well, mine had the hosted port installed on it, which I did back up |
| 15:09:20 | dconrad_web | not sure what all gets changed to install the hosted port |
| 15:09:24 | speachy | we don't touch the OF bootloader in the hosted port |
| 15:09:45 | dconrad_web | oh, cool, yeah I've got that then... might even be on the device here with me at work. one sec |
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| 15:10:08 | speachy | (we replace the OF player startup script with one that calls our loader/launcher) |
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| 15:11:12 | dconrad_web | hm, looks like it's no longer on this card, but I know I have it on my computer at home |
| 15:11:18 | dconrad_web | I'll send it your way after work |
| 15:11:52 | speachy | no worries, thank you |
| 15:12:13 | speachy | I want to go spelunking around in it a bit, with an eye towards getting the port to dual-booting |
| 15:12:50 | dconrad_web | if you would like it sooner, you could use usbboot to run the bootloader (no need to install it) and then choose the "backup" option |
| 15:12:56 | speachy | (and I apparently can't be bothered to un-bury one of mine...) |
| 15:13:04 | dconrad_web | haha I see then |
| 15:13:12 | dconrad_web | yeah I'll get it |
| 15:15:01 | speachy | heh, a native and hosted port on the same device. |
| 15:15:11 | speachy | not confusing at all. :D |
| 15:16:41 | dconrad_web | if that multiboot stuff gets worked out, it could happen... |
| 15:16:47 | dconrad_web | triple-boot? |
| 15:17:10 | speachy | yeah |
| 15:17:39 | dconrad_web | truly, the future is now 8) |
| 15:17:51 | speachy | I've still been poking away with bluetooth behind the scenes; trying to find out technical information about the BT hardware without signing fifteen levels of NDAs |
| 15:18:28 | speachy | some of the modules out there are fully embedded, that is to say they don't need a host stack at all. |
| 15:18:37 | dconrad_web | oh, that's exciting - any idea what the hardware is? I wasn't able to get the shield off when I had it apart |
| 15:18:49 | speachy | CSR8811 supposedly |
| 15:19:13 | dconrad_web | from the OF disassembly? or you talked to somebody? |
| 15:19:58 | speachy | what's running on the OF uses the Linux BT stack (kernel + bluez 4) but that might not be strictly necessary |
| 15:20:45 | speachy | all of these x1000+bt designs seem to use the CSR8811. |
| 15:21:02 | dconrad_web | ah, common parts is excellent |
| 15:23:33 | dconrad_web | I was never excited about BT until got a player with it, and could pair it to my car radio. turns out, y'know, it's actually got a pretty good 'cool factor' |
| 15:23:38 | speachy | "CSR's Bluetooth Protocol STack runs on the on-chip MCU in the configuration Standard HCI over UART" |
| 15:23:46 | dconrad_web | who knew? (well, besides evrybody) |
| 15:24:16 | speachy | AVRCP lets you use the car's controls and interface to operate the player too |
| 15:24:56 | dconrad_web | so there's some kind of api and it does all the heavy lifting? |
| 15:25:13 | speachy | but "stack" is not "profiles" :D |
| 15:26:00 | speachy | one bit of joy on the erosq −− the CSR8811's PCM interface is 16-bit only. :) |
| 15:26:15 | dconrad_web | ah, my nemesis haha |
| 15:26:33 | dconrad_web | well we would probably send full-volume pcm...? |
| 15:27:03 | dconrad_web | not sure what's common practice there |
| 15:27:57 | speachy | yes, I believe so. |
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| 19:18:33 | dconrad | speachy: https://dconrad.neocities.org/assorted_files/erosq-nand.zip |
| 19:19:17 | dconrad | just for fun I also included the native bootloader backup and the full dump of the nand |
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| 20:28:58 | speachy | got it downloaded, thank you |
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| 20:44:44 | _bilgus | speachy got a link? |
| 20:45:04 | speachy | _bilgus: https://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/update.zip |
| 20:45:28 | speachy | you'll have to do a bit of song-and-dance with the lock switch to get the update to proceed |
| 20:46:10 | speachy | lock to boot into OF, unlock, trigger update, lock after it succeeds, device reboots into OF updater, unlodk when it shows "updating...", and then it'll reboot into rockbox when it's done |
| 20:46:22 | _bilgus | k |
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| 20:49:04 | _bilgus | gotta its sd first might be faster to make a new one lol |
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| 21:04:03 | speachy | I'm still waiting on feedback from the folks with the problematic hardware |
| 21:07:09 | _bilgus | ok got a card with install ill try the update now |
| 21:11:56 | _bilgus | screen is black atm im at step lock after succeed waiting to see updating.... |
| 21:12:15 | _bilgus | oh i'd say I missed it |
| 21:14:35 | _bilgus | ok success |
| 21:14:44 | _bilgus | what you need checked? |
| 21:16:10 | _bilgus | speachy when sd is not mounted it turns off after a few |
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| 21:47:46 | speachy | _bilgus: that's intentional; before you'd have to hard reset it |
| 21:49:37 | _bilgus | yeah I noted that the first time thru :) |
| 21:55:42 | speachy | also if you hold down power when turning it on it goes into verbose mode |
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| 22:33:07 | _bilgus | are there possible status messages besides loaded firmware and no fw? |
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