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15:50:57amachronicspeachy: thanks for reviewing the USB stuff.
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15:56:00Guest81Hello to everyone.
15:56:22Guest81I found a creative zen x-fi device, and noted on https://www.rockbox.org/ that it is listed as supported by the installer
15:56:47Guest81but https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENXFiPort says the installer does not support it
15:57:00Guest81and that the port is unstable
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16:08:13amachronicGuest81, the rockbox utility definitely doesn't support it. I'm not sure why the front page says it's a stable port.
16:12:18amachronicunstable could mean anything from 'barely usable' to 'works perfectly, but must be installed manually'
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16:16:14Guest81ok, I already tested the installer and could not find the device, so I assumed the front page is wrong
16:17:22Guest81I could not find any recent development for that player, is there any chance that in the near future (ie timespan of a 2/3/4 of years) it could become stable/supported by the installer?
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16:23:32amachronichmm, okay, apparently somebody tested it recently and it still works.
16:23:33amachronichttps://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,53800.0.html
16:23:40amachronicmind you, I don
16:23:48amachronicI don't know who reported it
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16:35:36Guest81Great, good to know. I would gladly test mine if it helps to progress the port, but the installation instruction are a little to unclear to me, especially how can I revert everything if something does not work
16:38:04amachronicyeah, recovery might be difficult but it appears there is _some_ procedure for doing that on the zen x-fi forum thread.
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16:38:24amachronici don't own a zen x-fi so unfortunately i couldn't help if things went wrong
16:38:45SaratogaNot all stable targets are supported by rockbox utility
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16:40:00SaratogaSome are too difficult to support so they would never become stable, so we agreed ages ago that there just has to be a documented way to install
16:40:08Saratogahttps://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus#Current_status_of_stable_targets
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16:47:25Guest81Thanks for the info. As I could not find an official bootloader (just links to dropbox), it did not seem stable, at least officially
16:48:15Guest81> yeah, recovery might be difficult but it appears there is _some_ procedure for doing that on the zen x-fi forum thread.
16:48:48Guest81I think it would be great if those information (not only for this device) would be part of the wiki/installation procedure, so that one can see how to handle the worst case scenario
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16:50:04Guest81And what does "OF" stand for?
16:50:38amachronicoriginal firmware
16:51:05Guest81aah, thanks, not it make sense
16:51:10Guest81*now
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17:51:03celaGuest81 I have a Creative Zen X-fi it works well with Rockbox, just need to follow the instructions on the Wiki. Install the bootloader using sendfirm , are versions for Linux and Windows, I seem to remember it was quite straightforward
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18:01:30Guest81From the wiki: Since RockboxUtility is not ready for the task, I uploaded a prebuilt image of the bootloader here: firmware-zenxfi.nk.
18:02:04Guest81As I cannot see when the wiki has been edited... is the bootloader compatible with the current firmware?
18:03:07Guest81then, installing bootloader: An alternative method under Windows is to repack the bootloader in the installer using the zentools and use the installer normally. This has not been tested yet.
18:03:53Guest81alternative method to what? Linux? and where do I get the zentools?
18:07:54Guest81And Formatting the device for Rockbox is listed after installing the bootloader, wouldnt formatting delete the just installed bootloader? what happens if I leave the bootloader and do not format?
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18:18:04celaFormatting doesn't wipe the bootloader since it replaces the OF and makes the player dual boot, use the manual install method to install the bootloader, the instructions are the Wiki page for Creative ZEN, but you must use the bootloader for Zen X-fi
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19:06:19Guest81is dual boot supported? accrding to the wiki it does not seem so, but your message seems to imply that it is
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