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| 09:19:17 | speachy | petur: Did you fix your buildclient's SDL issues? |
| 09:19:46 | petur | probably not, please tell me what needs to be done |
| 09:22:56 | speachy | basically try to build a simulator or even checkwps target |
| 09:23:36 | speachy | (manually, I mean) |
| 09:24:00 | speachy | IIRC your builder wasn't even making it through the configure script successfully |
| 09:24:22 | petur | I'll check... |
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| 11:50:57 | petur | speachy: fixed SDL and rebuild the other toolchains as they were outdated, it's up and ready now. Also changed clientname, assuming that doesn't matter? |
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| 12:08:09 | speachy | petur: thanks! since you changed the client name there's no need to unblock you, but I'll do it later today |
| 12:09:27 | petur | ah it looked like it connected already so the block is name-based. You can remove the old name... I'll keep an eye on it when a new commit comes |
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| 15:30:51 | amachronic | is it possible to push tags to the main repo through gerrit? |
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| 17:46:20 | speachy | amachronic: in a word, yes −− but I think it's only enabled for folks in the "release committers" group |
| 17:49:56 | speachy | ...of which you are now a member of |
| 17:50:12 | speachy | (the only difference is the power to create/push tags) |
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| 19:22:27 | amachronic | speachy: thanks, I just wanted to tag the bootloader releases |
| 19:22:38 | amachronic | (something I should've done a while ago) |
| 19:32:43 | amachronic | ok, let's see if it works |
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| 19:46:53 | amachronic | .. and there they are. |
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| 22:30:20 | annoying_questio | Anyone here? |
| 22:32:06 | braewoods | annoying_questio: nope, we're all just part of an elaborate hallucination :P |
| 22:32:36 | annoying_questio | 😁 my favorite! |
| 22:33:09 | annoying_questio | Then my dear hallucinations, you will give me good answers to my question! |
| 22:34:00 | annoying_questio | I'm sure it's asked a million times but I'm having a hard time pining down the answer |
| 22:34:13 | braewoods | did you try using staples? :P |
| 22:34:43 | annoying_questio | I smashed my head repeatedly into the screen... |
| 22:34:56 | annoying_questio | <drumroll> |
| 22:35:55 | annoying_questio | Are there any available-to-purchase-that-dont-cost-a-small-fortune mp3 players that support rockbox |
| 22:35:59 | annoying_questio | ? |
| 22:36:19 | braewoods | so, brand new stuff? |
| 22:36:30 | annoying_questio | My Sansa clip....(the third) kinda ...melted... |
| 22:36:50 | annoying_questio | Yes. Even if it's not fully supported... |
| 22:37:27 | braewoods | if i'm being frank, not really. the supplies are short. speachy knows the modern front better. i mostly have focused on older hardware that can be modified to still be relevant. |
| 22:37:48 | braewoods | if there's anything really, speachy would know. |
| 22:38:24 | annoying_questio | Is there anything used that doesn't cost a fortune? A used clip costs several hu ndreddollars |
| 22:38:50 | braewoods | depends what you're looking for |
| 22:39:15 | braewoods | i know a fair number of choices |
| 22:39:24 | braewoods | but most of 'em are bigger than the sansa |
| 22:39:26 | braewoods | clip |
| 22:39:29 | annoying_questio | Plays files. Reads txt. Lua scripts. SD card. |
| 22:39:53 | annoying_questio | Size isn't so important. I have big pockets. Just empty ones. |
| 22:40:15 | braewoods | ebay is probably your best option if you're willing to wait until some stuff shows up |
| 22:40:32 | braewoods | xduoo x3 is newer than the clip+, aluminum shell |
| 22:40:38 | braewoods | 2x micro sd card slots |
| 22:40:43 | braewoods | no internal storage for stuff |
| 22:41:00 | braewoods | it pops up sometimes on ebay still |
| 22:41:05 | braewoods | i have 2 of them |
| 22:41:36 | braewoods | i think it's speachy's daily driver still |
| 22:41:45 | braewoods | it kinda resembles a bar phone |
| 22:41:59 | braewoods | very simple screen, oled monochrome |
| 22:42:38 | annoying_questio | I've been hunting. But it's still usually over a hundred dollars. right? |
| 22:42:48 | braewoods | actually less than 100 usd typically |
| 22:42:50 | braewoods | more like 70. |
| 22:42:55 | braewoods | when i've seen it. |
| 22:43:47 | braewoods | good grief, are these people mad? |
| 22:43:54 | braewoods | over 100 for the iriver h120? |
| 22:44:28 | annoying_questio | Umm...short answer...yes...utterly crazy! |
| 22:44:30 | braewoods | the coldfire iriver stuff is OK. no sd card. |
| 22:44:37 | braewoods | if you can find one at a decent price. |
| 22:44:50 | braewoods | the internal storage is upgradeable to unknown upper limits. |
| 22:45:06 | braewoods | it's fairly fast, around 13MB/s with CF cards that are any good |
| 22:46:09 | braewoods | hm |
| 22:46:11 | annoying_questio | Hmm... |
| 22:46:35 | braewoods | https://www.ebay.com/itm/304234191125 |
| 22:46:38 | annoying_questio | I don't see any. But anyways I kinda need sd. |
| 22:46:40 | braewoods | i saw this when i was browing a moment ago. |
| 22:46:58 | braewoods | i think it's the older agptek rocker |
| 22:47:02 | braewoods | i usually forget about these |
| 22:47:07 | braewoods | because they've become so rare |
| 22:48:05 | annoying_questio | Still like $100 :-( |
| 22:48:28 | braewoods | let me see what else i can find |
| 22:49:36 | annoying_questio | Is there anything I can do to expand the rockbox market? |
| 22:50:34 | braewoods | there's only one way to do that really. port rockbox to hardware with more availability but that's a hard ask. |
| 22:51:14 | braewoods | let me think a moment. |
| 22:51:53 | braewoods | annoying_questio: how much space do you expect to need? |
| 22:52:23 | annoying_questio | Not much if it has sd. |
| 22:52:50 | braewoods | you can look at some other older Sansas... to be honest it's mostly Sansas or a few newer ports that use sd cards |
| 22:53:06 | braewoods | https://www.ebay.com/itm/194512063503? |
| 22:53:13 | braewoods | the e200 series doesn't seem super popular |
| 22:55:00 | braewoods | iirc, the e200 and c200 series have easily replaced batteries as well |
| 22:55:12 | braewoods | annoying_questio: what happened to your clip+ anyway? |
| 22:56:27 | annoying_questio | It literally kind melted. I wrote a Lua program for spreadsheets |
| 22:56:36 | braewoods | overheated? |
| 22:57:04 | annoying_questio | Yes. But to the point that it burned me |
| 22:57:22 | braewoods | mmm |
| 22:57:27 | annoying_questio | I assume it didn't like my coding skills |
| 22:57:30 | braewoods | you may want to try something more powerful then |
| 22:57:42 | braewoods | those things are pretty underpowered |
| 22:58:08 | braewoods | fiio m3k is a port i've seen tossed around a lot |
| 22:58:14 | braewoods | it's our fastest port to date |
| 22:58:18 | braewoods | aside from |
| 22:58:21 | braewoods | hosted builds |
| 22:58:24 | braewoods | on PCs |
| 22:58:25 | braewoods | LOL |
| 22:59:04 | braewoods | m3k was originaly around 60 |
| 22:59:09 | braewoods | but it's become harder to find |
| 22:59:27 | annoying_questio | Looks like I can get one for $65 |
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| 23:00:42 | annoying_questio | Oh! Not working! :-( |
| 23:00:49 | braewoods | what isn't? |
| 23:00:59 | braewoods | oh |
| 23:01:01 | braewoods | i see |
| 23:01:23 | braewoods | what market are you in? |
| 23:01:29 | braewoods | might help with locating sellers |
| 23:01:40 | braewoods | geographically anyway |
| 23:03:46 | braewoods | given your host mask i'd guess US market. comcast is mainly US ISP last I heard |
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| 23:06:48 | braewoods | ok... i was going to see if i could sell them one of my overstock units |
| 23:06:50 | braewoods | lol |
| 23:07:11 | braewoods | oh well they left |
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| 23:10:01 | annoying_questio | Umm... What happened? |
| 23:10:34 | braewoods | annoying_questio: it said connection closed. i assumed you left by choice. |
| 23:10:56 | braewoods | check the log to see what i last said. |
| 23:10:59 | annoying_questio | No. Maybe bad connection. We got snow! |
| 23:11:04 | braewoods | https://www.rockbox.org/irc |
| 23:12:19 | annoying_questio | Could be the weather? We have snow? |
| 23:12:25 | braewoods | no idea |
| 23:12:39 | annoying_questio | You have a unit? Which? How much? |
| 23:13:21 | braewoods | I have one iriver H120 left. I'm not using it anymore; I mainly purchased it for development of the new bootloader release last year. |
| 23:13:55 | braewoods | It's been modded to use a CF card. |
| 23:14:01 | braewoods | 64GB is currently installed. |
| 23:14:12 | braewoods | no sd card due to the age |
| 23:14:30 | braewoods | it's in great condition all things considered |
| 23:14:37 | braewoods | not super fast |
| 23:14:39 | braewoods | though |
| 23:14:45 | braewoods | good enough for music playback |
| 23:15:01 | braewoods | like 120 mhz 68k cpu |
| 23:16:16 | annoying_questio | Doesn't sound like it'll work for me |
| 23:16:23 | annoying_questio | :-( |
| 23:16:26 | braewoods | why do you need sd cards? |
| 23:16:31 | annoying_questio | Thanks though |
| 23:16:36 | braewoods | you need to remove cards on the fly? |
| 23:16:44 | annoying_questio | Yes |
| 23:16:55 | braewoods | well |
| 23:17:14 | braewoods | i do have one spare xduoo x3 |
| 23:17:17 | _bilgus | elua runs on esp platform |
| 23:17:33 | braewoods | it has 2 micro sd card slots |
| 23:17:42 | _bilgus | put a sd reader and screen on it does it need to be covert? |
| 23:17:55 | annoying_questio | No |
| 23:18:23 | annoying_questio | I'll be back soon |
| 23:18:26 | _bilgus | the x3 is a nice unit but |
| 23:18:33 | _bilgus | monochrome |
| 23:18:37 | braewoods | ok |
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| 23:22:44 | _bilgus | melted down sounds like a liion issue to me |
| 23:23:16 | braewoods | _bilgus: given what they told us, i suspect the xduoo x3 is the only option due to dual sd cards. if you use rockbox with multiboot on Sansa you can't just hotplug sd cards. |
| 23:23:21 | _bilgus | the battery is the heatsink on those units |
| 23:24:38 | _bilgus | I think you can if you swap while lua is running |
| 23:24:54 | _bilgus | its all in ram then switch back before exit |
| 23:24:59 | braewoods | maybe, i just assume it would be no buena |
| 23:25:46 | _bilgus | it takes longer than I like even while music is playing to realize your sd card went flying |
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| 23:26:55 | _bilgus | but yeah good point it would be perfect for the use case |
| 23:27:14 | _bilgus | hopefully the metal heatsinks it was well |
| 23:27:20 | _bilgus | as* |
| 23:27:38 | braewoods | annoying_questio: i think the only option is the xduoo x3 assuming you can live with its other features |
| 23:28:03 | braewoods | it has a green monochrome screen |
| 23:28:18 | braewoods | 2x micro sd cards so you can swap one out |
| 23:28:30 | braewoods | i do have one i bought earlier in the year |
| 23:29:26 | annoying_questio | I can deal with the screen |
| 23:29:38 | annoying_questio | How much do they run? |
| 23:29:53 | braewoods | let's see, they don't show up too often |
| 23:30:25 | braewoods | last one sold in early october ish |
| 23:30:45 | braewoods | oh lmao |
| 23:30:48 | braewoods | it's the one i bought |
| 23:32:00 | braewoods | i got busy with my battery projects and forgot to come back to it |
| 23:32:15 | _bilgus | id say $100 is a fair price |
| 23:32:35 | _bilgus | new |
| 23:32:42 | braewoods | realistically they often pop up for like 60-80 used |
| 23:32:46 | braewoods | when they do |
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| 23:33:13 | braewoods | good thing for that web log |
| 23:33:26 | _bilgus | I have one I traded speachy for a new clip zip |
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| 23:35:28 | braewoods | annoying_questio: i assume these random sd cards won't have rockbox installed? |
| 23:35:30 | braewoods | on them |
| 23:36:00 | braewoods | the main issue here is |
| 23:36:09 | annoying_questio | They could if I put it ther |
| 23:36:12 | braewoods | many rockbox devices with sd cards are single card only |
| 23:36:22 | braewoods | and they must have rockbox installed on them |
| 23:36:30 | braewoods | if you want to swap safely you have to shutdown first |
| 23:36:41 | braewoods | afaik rockbox only supports hotswap if it's not booted from the sd crd |
| 23:36:43 | braewoods | card |
| 23:37:31 | braewoods | does that make sense? |
| 23:37:45 | braewoods | this is also true of Sansas if you're using a modern bootloader with multiboot |
| 23:37:56 | braewoods | it boots from SD card to extend the lifespan of your player's internal flash |
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| 23:39:58 | _bilgus | old cell phones have sd slot |
| 23:40:07 | _bilgus | i bet a few can run lua |
| 23:40:20 | braewoods | that too but they came here so i assumed they wanted a rockbox answer |
| 23:40:35 | _bilgus | giving multiple.. |
| 23:40:59 | _bilgus | I wonder if a really old android phone could still run the port |
| 23:41:11 | braewoods | no diea |
| 23:41:12 | braewoods | idea |
| 23:41:14 | braewoods | rofl |
| 23:41:28 | _bilgus | maybe annoying q will become the android saviour |
| 23:41:36 | braewoods | rofl |
| 23:42:20 | braewoods | _bilgus: do you use bench power supplies? |
| 23:42:26 | _bilgus | i'm pleased they used the lua port to data process but i bet the screen made that stuff terribly small |
| 23:42:40 | _bilgus | I have 2 but they are in storage |
| 23:42:43 | braewoods | ah |
| 23:43:01 | braewoods | i was considering getting one since i have none and could use one for random projects some of the time |
| 23:43:13 | braewoods | there's some really tiny ones compared to the larger ones like the toolkitrc P200 |
| 23:43:25 | braewoods | https://www.toolkitrc.com/P200 |
| 23:43:53 | braewoods | only sacrifice i can tell is it limits how much total power it can output |
| 23:46:00 | braewoods | mostly battery related stuff since you need very fine grained CV for that |
| 23:46:46 | _bilgus | being that its usually a fixed set of ranges maybe a set of dedicated boards would be better |
| 23:47:07 | _bilgus | then have a pot on it and allow .5v range or so |
| 23:47:33 | _bilgus | and for the prices they could probably already have a lcd for voltage on it |
| 23:48:13 | braewoods | wouldn't that still need a power source such a AC-DC converter? |
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| 23:48:50 | _bilgus | yeah a wall wart to get you down to the range likely |
| 23:49:09 | braewoods | in any case the main use case i have for now is using one to top balance a lifepo4 cell pack i'm working on |
| 23:49:14 | _bilgus | 12v seems a likely target |
| 23:49:37 | annoying_questio | Sounds like it would have helped my clip |
| 23:49:56 | braewoods | annoying_questio: yea, provided you can live with the swap limitation |
| 23:50:03 | _bilgus | annoying_questio, i think you likely fried your lipo with the heat of the cpu |
| 23:51:53 | braewoods | if you must swap to sd cards that have not been specially prepped before hand |
| 23:51:57 | annoying_questio | Yes I cold deal with that... |
| 23:51:59 | braewoods | xduoo x3 is the only real option |
| 23:52:05 | braewoods | otherwise you have more choices |
| 23:52:32 | braewoods | probably best to look at the available Sansa devices |
| 23:52:40 | braewoods | the other micro sd stuff is newer but far rarer |
| 23:52:52 | braewoods | some Sansa stuff is still reasonably priced |
| 23:54:15 | braewoods | the e200 and c200 seems pretty sane still |
| 23:54:17 | braewoods | but older stuff |
| 23:54:23 | braewoods | swappable battery |
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