#rockbox 2022-01-24

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02:03:16	spork	braewoods: do you think that would include the linux system itself or just the rockbox app on top of whatever linux comes with those devices ?
02:27:51	paulcarroty	@spork openwrt + audio drivers, why not
02:28:25	braewoods	spork: i was thinking in terms of cases where the software stack isn't locked to some proprietary blend
02:28:46	braewoods	in which case having SDL2 and some other code to run natively on Linux could be beneficial
02:29:23	braewoods	if we were to provide the distribution we would probably want some way to provide the hardware assembly it was intended for
02:29:39	braewoods	i've seen RPI4 setups that had a touchscreen integrated into the case
02:29:53	braewoods	i thought if you could get a battery in there it might end up being a viable idea
02:30:14	braewoods	won't be super good audio quality probably but for people that just want a DIY solution it may be good enough
02:31:01	braewoods	i'd honestly want to improve the SDL port before messing with that all
02:31:13	braewoods	but having a mode where we can run like Kodi does could be useful
02:31:31	braewoods	it was basically rockbox for set top boxes or similar
02:32:25	braewoods	if nothing else it does provide a way to get rockbox onto portable hardware that can still be produced now
02:32:48	braewoods	it will probably require finetuning of the linux code but it's not a bad place to start.
02:33:06	braewoods	depends on the target board and such
02:33:20	braewoods	the easiest option would probably be to test this concept on the pinephone
02:35:20	spork	sounds good
02:35:50	spork	librebox
02:36:42	spork	also sounds like a major undertaking
02:37:26	spork	the existing 'hosted' rockbox ports benefit from the existing linux on various devices
02:40:45	spork	rpi4+battery+touchscreen is not as portable as some of the integrated solutions
02:41:33	spork	a modern sdl2 version would open up loads of opportunities
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03:10:43	braewoods	mostly just an idea i have for another time
03:11:13	braewoods	my original idea was to just make it possible to compile RB like this and see what software distributions might be practical
03:12:05	braewoods	if Linux ran well on old x86 tablets those could also work to a degree
03:14:19	braewoods	Atom could also work but only if someone was willing to design around it. the standard hardware architecture is rather helpful.
03:14:47	braewoods	i was thinking something like vocore would probably work out better. it has a lot of different pins on the SoC.
03:15:49	braewoods	oh, nevermind. it's usb host only.
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04:20:18	paulcarroty	rpi4 needs a 3A battery, which is not cheap, but guess you can underclock it
04:23:48	braewoods	the final one would probably be better off with a pi zero or similar
04:29:24	braewoods	paulcarroty: could be mitigated by disabling features that aren't needed but yea
04:29:45	braewoods	3A could be provided by 18650 cells
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05:45:31	paulcarroty	probably, but how big the case will be? 😃 we don't need another 6" pinephone. anyway, it's interesting to dig in.
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07:14:21	braewoods	paulcarroty: probably as big as the flirc case at least.
07:14:31	braewoods	you need a lot of help to make anything slim.
07:21:21	spork	or a hammer
07:22:57	braewoods	maybe in time the modular stuff will get more affordable. this would only really work if the main board already came with everything we'd need.
07:24:37	braewoods	or smaller even
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15:33:03	speachy	braewoods: https://hackaday.io/project/26157-pipod
15:36:48	MarcAndersen	This pipod thing looks interesting.
15:38:00	speachy	it's an example of what it takes to make a mp3 player with a RPi Zero. or more generally, any small linux SBC.
15:38:22	MarcAndersen	Has it anything to do with rockbox?
15:38:38	speachy	(the lichee pi zero would be a better choice IMO)
15:40:12	speachy	(also the lichee pi nano. since either way you'll need external codec, buttons/display/case/battery mgmt, etc)
15:43:48	yang	My guess about rockbox GUI interface is, it probably cannot be changed to icons?
15:45:15	yang	like different "theme" ?
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16:32:19	_bilgus_	yang the main interface uses text and icons I don't think there is a way to turn off the text like there is for the icons
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18:05:12	braewoods	speachy: yea, i see that. at least we could go this route if all else failed..
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