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| 11:48:09 | steelbas | _bilgus_ Back for more! I just formatted my 512 gb SD card as well as a 4 gb card I had laying around. Restoring both with iTunes now, then the first thing I'm going to check is if the partition table is readable for both. I expect not, but hopefully that won't inhibit their working with Rockbox |
| 11:55:46 | steelbas | (I'll just document my progress here, to have it somewhere) |
| 11:56:19 | steelbas | As expected, so far: both SD cards show an undetected file system. https://imgur.com/a/ewHNfXv |
| 11:57:26 | steelbas | I'll try to install my Rockbox build with disabled DMA and UDMA set to 1, now. (This is my iPod 4g color/photo, see this post https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,52560.msg249953.html#msg249953) |
| 11:57:37 | steelbas | First on the 4gb sd card |
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| 12:16:04 | steelbas | Alright, the 4gb SD card with my DMA-less and UMDA 1 Rockbox build boots. So that at least suggests that the checksum fail was caused by general filesystem corruption last time and not a fault in the build itself |
| 12:16:20 | steelbas | Guess I'll load some music on the device now to see how that performs |
| 12:17:39 | steelbas | Plugins work, at least. |
| 12:19:47 | steelbas | Debug->View disk info no longer shows "DMA mode: UDMA 1" but nothing. Guess that's because I disabled DMA. |
| 12:29:00 | steelbas | Music playback *seems* stable on the 4gb SD card. Switching to different songs or albums while playing also works. Database initialises correctly, and the Random folder advance config plugin also works. |
| 12:29:31 | steelbas | Guess I'll see how the 512 GB card fares, now. |
| 12:30:17 | steelbas | Man, Rockbox is one sexy system if it works how it's supposed to |
| 12:35:56 | steelbas | The 512 GB card boots with my Rockbox build, too. Interestingly, it shows a 4gb card under Rockbox info... |
| 12:39:01 | steelbas | Hmm, it couldn't open the clock plugin |
| 12:39:23 | steelbas | Ah, and now it also fails on the calculator plugin |
| 12:39:38 | steelbas | That one worked on the 4GB card |
| 12:43:10 | steelbas | I'm going to restore it with iTunes again. See if that makes it see the disk at 4gb at least. Might've been because I switched out the cards without pulling out the battery from the ipod |
| 12:43:27 | steelbas | But it's not looking good for my expensive 512GB card, so far |
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| 14:26:43 | steelbas | Wellp, restored with itunes again, installed the modified Rockbox build again and put some music on the SD card, but it's giving a playlist control file error again. After rebooting it plays back fine for a short while but then quickly gives the error again. Plugins don't work. Guess the SD card is indeed faulty. |
| 14:27:02 | steelbas | I'm going to test with the 4gb SD card some more to make sure that continues to work as it's supposed to. |
| 14:27:29 | steelbas | Also with the regular dev build, without DMA disabled and UDMA set to 1 |
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| 14:57:58 | steelbas | Okay, guess it's the conclusion you always hope it isn't, as a user, but the 4gb SD card seems completely stable. Also with the latest development version. So I guess I'll shop around for a new bigger SD card. |
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| 15:28:08 | _bilgus_ | steelbas, it (sd) might just be incompatible with the device i'd try running some bad block tests from your pc |
| 15:28:36 | _bilgus_ | it could also be one of those cards thats says 512GB but is only 32 or somesuch |
| 15:29:28 | _bilgus_ | Someone has some scripts for fake sd tests lets see if I can find it |
| 15:30:19 | _bilgus_ | https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_test_SD_cards_and_identify_fake_ones_(mostly_sold_on_ebay) |
| 15:30:27 | steelbas | Well, I'm pretty sure about its size, but it did just occur to me that it is a micro SD and the first conversion thingie to a larger size gave me some trouble |
| 15:30:34 | steelbas | I'm trying with another converter now |
| 15:31:03 | _bilgus_ | well the writes go through but when you verify them they come back corrupted |
| 15:31:12 | _bilgus_ | in the fake sd case |
| 15:31:25 | steelbas | Yeah, I'll also try that script, thanks! |
| 15:32:31 | _bilgus_ | that being said I have run into cards that just won't work with my device yet prefectly fine in say my phone |
| 15:33:20 | steelbas | Well, at least the 4gb card seems to work well. That gives one hope, at least |
| 15:33:51 | steelbas | Though it's strange that that one also has an unreadable file system |
| 15:34:04 | steelbas | Guess that's "normal" with an iflash thing |
| 15:35:18 | _bilgus_ | might try wiping the card completely and then reformat there seems to be from time to time a card that won't work after reformat from exfat |
| 15:35:43 | _bilgus_ | I don't use apple devices so I can't verify that |
| 15:35:57 | _bilgus_ | (normal for iflash) |
| 15:36:12 | steelbas | Me neither, I'm running itunes in Windows |
| 15:36:20 | steelbas | And I think that formats to fat32 |
| 15:37:01 | _bilgus_ | the windows formatter won't do more than 32 (64?) gb as fat 32 you need a 3rd party tool |
| 15:37:14 | _bilgus_ | ituner though I imagine works |
| 15:37:19 | _bilgus_ | tunes* |
| 15:37:56 | steelbas | I've been using Linux to reformat the cards |
| 15:38:20 | steelbas | iTunes *seems* to work. The ipod OS indicates it has 500GB free, at least |
| 15:38:22 | _bilgus_ | I think linux is where the failed format from exfat happens |
| 15:38:43 | _bilgus_ | but I too use linux to reformat and haven't had it happen to me yet |
| 15:39:01 | _bilgus_ | the forum has some threads on it brb |
| 15:39:04 | steelbas | Hmm I might be confusing terms, here. Isn't exfat the Apple filesystem? |
| 15:39:33 | steelbas | I thought if you use itunes on a Mac to restore an iPod it made the thing exfat, and if you use Windows, it makes the thing fat32 |
| 15:39:53 | steelbas | So in my case, exfat should never come into the equation, right? |
| 15:40:08 | steelbas | Or do you figure the iflash thing only works properly with exfat cards? |
| 15:42:26 | steelbas | In that case you'd think the 4GB card would also give trouble |
| 15:43:29 | _bilgus_ | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51941.msg240386.html#msg240386 |
| 15:43:47 | _bilgus_ | I doubt the 4gb card was ever anything other than fat32 |
| 15:44:17 | _bilgus_ | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,53271.0.html |
| 15:45:28 | _bilgus_ | I'm pretty sure exfat is the extended fat filesystem they put on big sd cards from the factory |
| 15:45:54 | _bilgus_ | mac is probably something else but rockbox must have FAT32 |
| 15:48:01 | steelbas | Hmm, okay. So I'd need something like RMPrepUSB for Linux to get a more complete format, you think? |
| 15:49:00 | _bilgus_ | those are for windows in linux you can just dd a bunch of 0 and re partition |
| 15:49:36 | steelbas | Yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 15:50:10 | _bilgus_ | https://askubuntu.com/questions/511467/how-can-i-completely-erase-all-data-on-a-micro-sd-card |
| 15:50:22 | steelbas | Well, not to jinx anything, but I just finished the entire process of format, itunes restore, Rockbox install again with another micro-sd converter, and playback of the first few files is working, as well as plugins |
| 15:50:31 | steelbas | so it *may* just have been that |
| 15:50:38 | steelbas | This calls for further testing, methinks |
| 15:50:41 | _bilgus_ | someone told me they had good luck with using gparted only and deleting and recreating the partitions |
| 15:50:57 | _bilgus_ | ymmv |
| 15:51:11 | steelbas | I actually remade the filesystem each time, too |
| 15:51:34 | steelbas | Well, I can't remake the partitions with gparted now, as it keeps showing that the filesystem is unreadable |
| 15:51:51 | steelbas | As soon as iTunes "restores" it, it becomes unreadable for gparted |
| 15:51:56 | _bilgus_ | dd won't :) |
| 15:51:59 | steelbas | Can still mount the partition, tho |
| 15:52:33 | _bilgus_ | I just don't have any idea as far as itunes __builtin might know |
| 15:52:41 | _bilgus_ | he does ipods |
| 15:52:56 | _bilgus_ | or at least uses them |
| 15:53:04 | steelbas | Yeah that sounds healthier |
| 15:53:05 | steelbas | :p |
| 15:54:13 | steelbas | Ah, nope, there we go again, trying to open the calendar plugin just didn't work again |
| 15:54:20 | steelbas | That's usually a bad sign. |
| 15:54:48 | steelbas | Yup, opening a music file now also doesn't work anymore |
| 15:55:05 | steelbas | So it wasn't the micro-sd converter |
| 15:56:44 | steelbas | So. New plan: 1. dd the card 2. new partition table 3. new fat32 file system, 4. iTunes restore, 5. Rockbox install |
| 15:56:55 | steelbas | That's what you suggest, right? |
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| 16:02:05 | _bilgus_ | up to 3 |
| 16:02:26 | _bilgus_ | 4, 5 sure if thats what the install guide says |
| 16:03:10 | steelbas | Oh! Hmm, well, now that you mention it, that was partially my assumption, too... I'll try going straight to the Rockbox install, see what that does |
| 16:03:27 | steelbas | But first, I just remembered, to test the SD card to see if it's actually 512gb |
| 16:04:05 | steelbas | Wellll I'll dd it first, I think |
| 16:04:20 | steelbas | Getting it readable by partitioning software again might help |
| 16:11:13 | _bilgus_ | it should be fat32 at the start then I suppose you need to reformat in itunes and get the apple fw booting |
| 16:11:25 | _bilgus_ | sorry restore in itunes |
| 16:11:54 | _bilgus_ | and I see a mention of apple HFS but I'm pretty sure you don't want that |
| 16:14:22 | _bilgus_ | oh even better https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore |
| 16:15:27 | _bilgus_ | it looks like what rb wants to do is occupy a second partition |
| 16:18:40 | steelbas | Yes, though that is also the partition scheme that results from itunes restoring the device |
| 16:19:04 | steelbas | I know because I used this manual restore process on my device earlier, too |
| 16:19:18 | _bilgus_ | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
| 16:19:28 | _bilgus_ | and that from the windows side |
| 16:19:51 | _bilgus_ | so it sounds like yes it should be the proper steps for 4, 5 |
| 16:20:34 | steelbas | I'd prefer to do a manual restore, but the thing is that it mentiones .ipsw (partition table files) files to download for your devide, which are only for devices with a 20 or 40 gb disk |
| 16:20:44 | _bilgus_ | give me a few to look at speachys code to fix the iflash stuff |
| 16:21:17 | steelbas | Though I could perhaps use such a file anyway and then expand the partition that results |
| 16:21:24 | steelbas | Probably not though |
| 16:23:59 | _bilgus_ | ok so its all in the ata driver |
| 16:24:16 | _bilgus_ | so your ipod should behave just fine with the iflash |
| 16:24:30 | _bilgus_ | sow the disabling dma has been done before |
| 16:24:39 | _bilgus_ | now* |
| 16:25:51 | steelbas | dd is still running, I hope that's not a bad sign |
| 16:26:00 | steelbas | Though I suppose it could take a while for 512gb |
| 16:26:56 | steelbas | Yeah, though it turned out disabling dma was not necessary after all with the latest dev build. If my experience with the 4gb card is any indicator, anyway |
| 16:31:17 | steelbas | > I know because I used this manual restore process on my device earlier, too. What I meant here, by the way, is that I used it on the original 20 gb hard disk that was in the device. I haven't used this process on the SD card, as I can't use the partition table files |
| 16:34:04 | _bilgus_ | rockbox/firmware/export/config/ipodcolor.h here you removed #define HAVE_ATA_DMA? |
| 16:34:35 | steelbas | I think so, let me check |
| 16:35:52 | steelbas | Yes, that's what I did |
| 16:36:15 | _bilgus_ | ok cool so I'm gonna say that card is the fault |
| 16:36:49 | _bilgus_ | but dd will take forever on 512 gb |
| 16:36:54 | _bilgus_ | so lets hope that works |
| 16:37:03 | steelbas | Heh, yeah, that's what I'm still gravitating towards, too |
| 16:37:14 | steelbas | But hey, who knows, dd might work |
| 16:38:13 | _bilgus_ | I'm up to a single 256 gb card but my rule has been thus far to buy one or two steps down from the leading size |
| 16:38:42 | _bilgus_ | 64 gb when 128 gb was $100 |
| 16:39:17 | _bilgus_ | its served me well except anything from PNY |
| 16:39:21 | steelbas | And I'm thinking I'll try the manual restore process anyway, with the firmware for my model. The instructions say to format the second partition anyway, so I might be able to format it bigger, then |
| 16:39:32 | steelbas | What do you mean leading size? |
| 16:39:44 | _bilgus_ | like whatever is the latest greates |
| 16:39:44 | steelbas | Ah also this is a PNY card, heh |
| 16:39:57 | _bilgus_ | yeah PNY is junk IMO |
| 16:40:29 | steelbas | Heh, good to know |
| 16:40:59 | _bilgus_ | ive had pny flashdrives and sd cards all have failed in my car and device |
| 16:41:27 | steelbas | I might do a 256 gb card, it's more affordable. I really liked the space 512gb afforded me, tho. Classical music tends to take up a lot of space |
| 16:41:34 | steelbas | What brand are you using now? |
| 16:43:21 | _bilgus_ | in the car its a usb to sd adapter no idea on the brand in my daily device its a sandisk |
| 16:43:40 | _bilgus_ | 128gb my dash cam has a sandisk 256gb |
| 16:44:36 | _bilgus_ | the dashcm did lock up last week though so it might be failingtoo |
| 16:44:56 | steelbas | USB to sd adapter? That's interesting... A lot more affordable than SD cards. I could tape a usb drive to the back of my iPod and connect it to the iflash drive inside :p |
| 16:45:06 | _bilgus_ | that was the exception I bought that when it came out (256G) |
| 16:45:10 | steelbas | I don't think I will |
| 16:45:22 | _bilgus_ | heh it goes the other way |
| 16:45:28 | _bilgus_ | the car wants a usb drive |
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| 16:45:42 | _bilgus_ | everything sticks out 3" and gets killed |
| 16:45:45 | steelbas | Well, given that we're up to 2tb SD cards these days, I don't think 256 is only one step below the leading size anymore |
| 16:45:52 | steelbas | Oh, right, that makes sense |
| 16:46:20 | _bilgus_ | I bought it when it was #1 though |
| 16:47:02 | _bilgus_ | the other thing is buy them locally |
| 16:47:19 | steelbas | Not from ebay or something, you mean :p |
| 16:47:24 | _bilgus_ | yep |
| 16:48:04 | _bilgus_ | I like that about stores I have my reciept and i'll be leaving with my money or a new card |
| 16:48:43 | steelbas | Well, here in the Netherlands we have pretty good consumer protection if you buy online, so as long as I buy from a Dutch web store it should also be fine |
| 16:57:38 | steelbas | By the way, you might have more insight into this than me: when you look at /firmware/target/arm/pp/ata-target.h, the code seems to suggest that something different is done for 4g ipods (in line 74). But the ipod color, which is also a 4g ipod, is named separately in the /firmware/export/config directory—"ipodcolor" instead of "ipod4g". Does that mean this code might not work on ipod colors? I understand if this is outside of your expertise, though |
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| 17:13:09 | _bilgus_ | I'd say that you are correct in your assumption |
| 17:16:18 | _bilgus_ | if it makes a difference trying #if CPUFREQ_NORMAL >= 30000000 && !defined(IPOD_4G) && !defined(IPOD_COLOR) |
| 17:16:43 | _bilgus_ | bbl |
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| 21:39:32 | _bilgus_ | g#3274 should be pretty well usable in its current state should anyone be interested in remapping keys |
| 21:39:35 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3274 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3274 : Add custom action mapping to core WIP by William Wilgus |
| 21:40:56 | _bilgus_ | it still needs a way to save, load, test key remap files but whats there will start with the test remap and save everything after a restart it should be loaded |
| 21:41:38 | _bilgus_ | it still has a ways to go and needs some polish but i'm pretty pleased so far |
| 21:43:18 | _bilgus_ | for the testing of keymaps i'm thinking letting the user set a context and display the return from get_action |
| 21:44:01 | _bilgus_ | my other thought was to create a list of buttons and highlight them when pressing buttons then a box with all the actions it would trigger |
| 21:49:11 | _bilgus_ | I was not able to get a proper action returned from get_action when TIMEOUT_BLOCK was used I think this is a known issue but am unsure if we ever discovered a root cause |
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