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| 05:50:56 | MyFairJulie | Hey people, how can i add additional resources to a game? I wanna make a text file with words to guess and add the text file automatically when building rockbox. |
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| 07:09:42 | woffs | Hi, I have a problem with iPod Video 80GB. The disk has an unrecoverable bad sector just at the start of the data partition. I have moved the partition to start after that bad sector and recreated the file system, and the original iPod software does work again and can use it, but rockbox cannot boot and says rockbox-info.txt file not found. Any hint? |
| 07:11:02 | woffs | If the rockbox firmware looks into the partition table, why does it not find the filesystem and the .rockbox/rockbox.ipod file (it is there)? |
| 07:12:00 | woffs | correcting rockbox-info.txt, meant rockbox.ipod |
| 07:19:19 | woffs | I am able to use a hex editor etc, so if anyone hat a hint what to change to get this working, thanks! |
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| 07:22:25 | gevaerts | The one thing I remember about the 80GB Video is that it has 2K sectors, which is kind of unusual. If at some point during the operation things got a bit confused about that, you can get weirdness |
| 07:23:48 | woffs | I have obeyed the 2k sector thing all the time |
| 07:24:01 | gevaerts | One problem is that there's no good way for rockbox to detect if it's running on such a disk, so what it does is try assuming it's a regular 512 byte sector system and if it doesn't find a valid FAT partition it tries 2K sectors. Now if for whatever reason there's something at the "512" offset that vaguely looks like a partition, you can get this sort of effect |
| 07:24:51 | woffs | so I'll try to zero-out everything which is left over? |
| 07:27:22 | gevaerts | Possibly. The tricky thing is knowing where. If what I'm thiking is correct, you might end up somewhere in the apple firmware partition. Not sure... |
| 07:28:00 | woffs | But that firmware partition is unchanged ... I wonder how to debug this |
| 07:30:08 | gevaerts | It's a tricky one. Of course it might also be something different which has nothing to do with this (not that I can think of something right now) |
| 07:30:45 | woffs | I have moved the partition start from 64260 to 64262 (2k sectors). That seemed to work, because it does not try to access the bad block anymore (which would be acoustically evident) |
| 07:33:51 | gevaerts | One thing you could do is check what's at 64262 *512* byte sectors in and see what's there |
| 07:35:37 | gevaerts | Hmm, the other thing to look at might be to check partition types. If I remember correctly the formware partition is of type 0, which some tools don't like. It's been a *long* time since I looked at the partition code in rockbox, but maybe if that's not set to 0 rockbox tries using that? |
| 07:38:11 | woffs | at 64262*512 there is 30 09 8D A1 E9 30 01 B7 ... where to find the partition firmware source code to have a look at? |
| 07:38:28 | woffs | p1 is type 0 |
| 07:38:35 | woffs | p2 is type 0b |
| 07:39:07 | woffs | maybe I should make a shorter partition to test |
| 07:40:16 | gevaerts | Hmm, that all seems OK |
| 07:40:51 | gevaerts | It's in firmware/common/disk.c |
| 07:41:43 | woffs | thank you, I'll have a look. And maybe my partition and fs layout is still a bit fucked up, I have to correct this (sizes) |
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| 08:50:06 | woffs | Rockbox finds the right partision (it reports that when booting), but then fails to find the file. But I'll try to zero out the first 1GB of the disk and restart from scratch. |
| 08:50:57 | woffs | Is there a chance to insert an other disk / ssd? I guess the case size and interface are rather unusual ... |
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| 09:07:16 | _bilgus | MyFairJulie (logs?) no res files we usually roll our own I suppose the closest i'm aware of is the cfg file helper plugin/lib/configfile.c, it handles int, bool, enum, strings |
| 09:18:45 | gevaerts | I don't know the ssd or replacement disk situation for those these days, really |
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| 09:48:12 | woffs | I see SSD ZIF replacement units for 40~60€ in the net (original disk is toshiba mk8010gah) |
| 09:49:16 | woffs | but I'm still struggling. Fun, the bad sector is accessible again, but I still have bootloop and rockbox not booting problems. I suspect fat and 2k sector weirdness. |
| 09:50:09 | woffs | host linux also wants to access sector 156279312 which is 4x the size of the disk (so i suspect 512 vs 2048 confusion here) |
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| 10:22:20 | woffs | after formatting fat with 1k sector size the iPod original software recognizes the disk but I cannot mount it in linux. |
| 10:23:10 | woffs | linux says "logical sector size too small for device (logical sector size = 1024)" because the physical block size reported by the device is 2048 |
| 10:23:15 | woffs | hmmm |
| 10:34:25 | woffs | `mformat -t 2428 -h 255 -s 63 -S 4 -M 2048 -F` seems to be the right thing to do, linux is happy, iPod original is happy. But Rockbox still does not find rockbox.ipod :( |
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| 11:28:10 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 11:30:58 | woffs | Had a look at firmware/common/rb-loader.c, probably load_firmware_filename returns EFILE_NOT_FOUND but why? Maybe some disk hardware error still shows up this way? Mysterious. |
| 11:32:02 | gevaerts | What sort of sectors per clusters do you get? I seem to have vague memories of something having issues with large clusters (if I remember correctly the largest possible size had issues, stepping down one worked). I don't remember if that was mformat, mkfs.msdos, or rockbox. |
| 11:32:33 | gevaerts | The rockbox FAT code isn't always the best |
| 11:33:33 | gevaerts | mkfs.vfat used to have issues on 2K sectors, so definitely stay with mformat |
| 11:41:41 | gevaerts | It's been way too long since I was involved in this sort of stuff. One forgets details after ten years... |
| 11:43:11 | woffs | I wonder because years ago it worked |
| 11:49:22 | gevaerts | Based on what I found, what I'd have recommended ten years ago seems to be be booting to the Apple recovery disk mode, clearing the first gigabyte or so with dd, repartitioning, and reformatting. This bad sector makes that a bit annoying though |
| 11:52:15 | gevaerts | But I really don't feel confident in recommending anything and being sure it will solve the problems |
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| 12:00:13 | woffs | Already did that. Thank you for your empathy, again :-) |
| 12:14:35 | woffs | Was also struggling to remember what I did some years ago to install Rockbox on that iPod. But thanks to the documentation which is still there! |
| 12:28:23 | hactar | not the solution you're looking for i know, but flash replacements are pretty cheap these days. an iflash solo is $35 and a 128gb sd can be had for $15 |
| 12:28:47 | hactar | battery life goes up by +50% too |
| 12:35:06 | woffs | need this scary ZIF interface |
| 12:35:51 | hactar | https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-solo/ |
| 12:40:37 | woffs | amazing :) |
| 12:42:58 | woffs | Shipping to DE +10€, but maybe find a local dealer. Thank you! |
| 12:44:10 | hactar | they are pretty popular so you might be able to find something local |
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| 21:52:40 | nkko | I'm looking at https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide, and is rockbox dead? |
| 21:52:57 | nkko | I don't see any new devices which can support it, erh, apart from the unstable builds |
| 21:54:22 | nkko | but I've never touched rockbox, myself, so I wouldn't know, but can it handle MOD/IT files? |
| 21:59:00 | hactar | it can |
| 21:59:45 | nkko | hmm, good to know |
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| 22:00:22 | hactar | rockbox definitely isn't dead, but the audio player market is pretty anemic these days |
| 22:00:30 | nkko | yeah, for sure |
| 22:00:33 | hactar | very few people want a device that just plays music |
| 22:01:36 | nkko | well, I'll look at chinese players, I suppose |
| 22:01:48 | nkko | I guess a used device would work, too, but hmm |
| 22:01:49 | hactar | or just get a used ipod or something |
| 22:01:56 | hactar | there are only 5 billion of them out there |
| 22:07:32 | nkko | yeah, you're right, those ipod nanos go for <$50 |
| 22:07:32 | hactar | personally i use a 5.5g ipod as my daily driver |
| 22:07:50 | hactar | had it since 2007, in the intervening time upgraded it to 128gb flash |
| 22:08:17 | hactar | just replaced the battery the other day, was thrilled to get 20hrs playback using rockbox |
| 22:14:38 | nkko | hmm, can those ipods handle 1-2TB HDDs? |
| 22:15:01 | nkko | probably won't need that much space, but you never know with flacs |
| 22:15:16 | hactar | i think that they become unstable at those sizes |
| 22:15:24 | hactar | there are some charts at iflash.xyz |
| 22:17:47 | hactar | i don't feel the need to carry flac in my pocket so 128gb is sufficient for me |
| 22:18:38 | nkko | true, yeah, I might just do ogg/mp3 |
| 22:19:39 | hactar | trancoding to v0 mp3 is nicely speedy on modern processors |
| 22:19:45 | hactar | *transcoding |
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