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| 00:38:23 | _bilgus_ | Bookmarks in the text reader? |
| 00:39:34 | _bilgus_ | TorC, You are welcome from all of us btw 2019-2022 is quite the jump I'm sure its a much better experience |
| 00:41:24 | _bilgus_ | perhaps you mean the keymap? |
| 00:42:13 | TorC | Yes, there are bookmarks in the text reader. If you actually use it ever they can be of some use. But yes, it's the keymap that's changed. I recall trying to use them on the zip before and finding a keymap clobber that blocked use of them. |
| 00:42:33 | TorC | I haven't played with the new version enough to find most of the changes, other than that one, but it looks good so far. |
| 00:43:26 | TorC | And, given I can count on one hand in unary the number of things that changed on me and I had to fix, like the down arrow on WPS going straight to the playlist, I'm happy so far. |
| 00:43:51 | TorC | I use it as a way to turn on the backlight if I want to see what's going on. Playlist is only occasionally used. |
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| 00:51:36 | _bilgus_ | there is a keyremap plugin now so you shouldn't have to edit source now |
| 00:52:31 | _bilgus_ | its a bit painful on device but you can export/import in plaintext and do it on pc or save it load it between versions |
| 00:52:56 | _bilgus_ | amachronic made a multiboot plugin that allows to switch between installs |
| 00:53:15 | _bilgus_ | and a plethora of bug fixes too |
| 00:54:43 | TorC | That's a very nice feature. I remember trying to fix the source and get a patch in for that keymap issue, but didn't manage to figure out how to get the correct form of diff to do it. |
| 00:55:26 | _bilgus_ | we should probably start compiling a change log |
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| 01:49:21 | chris_s | _bilgus_ Tiny thing: the logo has a light background on 2bit grayscale devices, but you've set the background to black on all players :p |
| 01:50:01 | chris_s | amachronic: Have you noticed the display of the M3K sometimes not waking up after it is unplk |
| 01:50:38 | chris_s | ...unpkugged from USB? Don't know when this started, but I've noticed it a few times now |
| 01:50:49 | chris_s | unplugged* |
| 01:55:13 | chris_s | I *think* it's a somewhat recent thing, not quite sure at this point. |
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| 02:00:46 | spork | it will not turn on at all (after a button or so) or just not after unplugging ? |
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| 02:04:01 | chris_s | I should investigate a bit more the next time it happens. Since it only occurs sometimes, I only notice it once I've already unplugged the device, at which point the display stays off and it will require a hard reset. |
| 02:07:08 | chris_s | seems to happen way more often though than the bug documented by amachronic in the wiki ("Known bug: very rarely, system might lock up after screen turns on"), which I don't remember running into for a very long time |
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| 02:17:20 | chris_s | TorC: You're probably aware of it already, but it sounds a bit like you're looking for the "First Keypress Enables Backlight Only." option. I don't think its behavior or defaults have changed recently though. |
| 02:17:21 | chris_s | https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipzip/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1450008.4 |
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| 02:31:00 | _bilgus_ | chris_s I was wondering why it had a conditional as >= 16 and not > 1 |
| 02:31:04 | _bilgus_ | makes sense |
| 02:42:08 | _bilgus_ | fixed. |
| 02:42:50 | _bilgus_ | bluebrother, I think your lovely bot bit the dust |
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| 05:03:17 | TorC | Chris_S: No, I saw that. Often I don't care what the screen shows, and have the no backlight on for certain actions set. What is useful is to have a button I can reliably press that won't do something annoying. |
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| 05:11:28 | TorC | I'm just a (not so) old curmudgeon about how software should behave. Because it *can* do what I want, it therefore *should* do what I want. And it shouldn't move stuff around, either. |
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| 05:16:24 | chris_s | TorC: If I'm seeing it correctly, you can just disable the WPS hotkey (General->Hotkey->WPS Hotkey, set it to Off). Seems like the WPS hotkey was only recently added to the Clip Zip |
| 05:16:25 | chris_s | https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/commit/30fb53d47f7f96019956de32a94f3c77fd9aa609 |
| 05:17:34 | TorC | Yes. That's exactly what I had figured out, which restored the old behavior that I liked. Thanks, chris_s. |
| 05:18:17 | chris_s | ah ok, great |
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| 19:22:21 | speachy | thank you for helping to warm my place up on these brisk evenings |
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| 19:30:06 | _bilgus_ | bah |
| 19:30:31 | speachy | yikes. |
| 19:30:39 | _bilgus_ | damnit I even build with checkwps this time |
| 19:30:57 | speachy | gotta hand it to you, when you go red, you do it in style |
| 19:31:46 | _bilgus_ | ah I see its the buflib_ops |
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| 19:34:42 | _bilgus_ | told you given enough time I'd ruin the nice green board :p |
| 19:35:00 | speachy | it would be really nice to have gerrit do smoke test builds before something can be merged. |
| 19:36:20 | _bilgus_ | it has enough issues in performance apparently what I used to do is run a sampling of builds before I pushed them but I'm still on a laptop that takes 5 minutes to do a single build I really need to get my rig back up |
| 19:36:57 | _bilgus_ | its probably longer than 5 mins actually I usually go do something else while waiting |
| 19:37:45 | _bilgus_ | plus it gives something to wait for with baited breath |
| 19:37:53 | speachy | I have enough idle cores over here to make quick work of CI builds −− since we'd not have to worry about uploads it can churn right through them. |
| 19:39:15 | _bilgus_ | yeah that would be a perfect setup since you are upload limited |
| 19:39:19 | speachy | three entire servers that aren't even powered on at the moment. |
| 19:39:35 | _bilgus_ | well I suppose if you need heat that bad :p |
| 19:39:49 | speachy | the slowest is the dual opteron (2x8c) box that was hosting rockbox for a while. |
| 19:40:15 | speachy | in the summer heat is a real problem. :( |
| 19:40:40 | speachy | but the plan is that by next summer I'll have this place fully under air. |
| 19:41:06 | speachy | dual 30a circuits into that room too. :) |
| 19:41:32 | speachy | at least the infra seems to be working well for the time being. |
| 19:47:17 | _bilgus_ | I think I might try and make a vector drawing routine for the usb logo in theory if its under 5k its a win |
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| 19:55:16 | _bilgus_ | now only 19 more error free build to go |
| 19:55:22 | _bilgus_ | lol |
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| 20:06:12 | speachy | I'm just glad to sitll get an occasional commit in the logs. |
| 20:07:05 | speachy | I'm going to have the ipod+ssd with me over the next week or so, between that and the X3 I hope to land a few fixes. |
| 20:08:24 | speachy | I'm wondering if for those mSATA units, if powering down the interface is the actual problem, as sata devices don't normally get power yanked out from underneath them. |
| 20:09:04 | speachy | the CF and SD-based ones are intended to be removable, and as such try to leave themselves in a tidy state as quickly as possible. |
| 20:21:02 | _bilgus_ | it wouldn't surprise me TBH why would a manufacturer waste time and BOM costs on a unlikely use case |
| 20:26:11 | speachy | well, it's firmware more so than BOM |
| 20:27:02 | speachy | eg why flush a small write to flash when another one will probably land a few seconds later? |
| 20:27:26 | speachy | batch them up as much as possible |
| 20:28:42 | speachy | we want to power off if possible, as it'll increase battery life. |
| 20:29:41 | speachy | alternatively maybe we just need to boost the power off delay (currently 2 seconds) |
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| 20:33:47 | _bilgus_ | do the msatas draw more power than spinning up a harddrive? |
| 20:34:10 | speachy | another possibility are that the PIO timings aren't sane for "real" SATA devices (vs the CF or SD adapters) |
| 20:34:52 | speachy | would be really interesting to plug this into a iriver unit |
| 20:35:21 | speachy | _bilgus_: vs spinning rust, no. but they're a lot hungrier than the sd adapters |
| 20:35:48 | speachy | well, the spinning rust drives draw zero when not being used. |
| 20:36:39 | speachy | tbh I don't know if the apple firmware actually kills the power supply to the drive, but I have to imagine so... |
| 20:36:51 | _bilgus_ | sure but if you averaged the difference over several tracks loading |
| 20:37:02 | speachy | g#4944 |
| 20:37:05 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #4944 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/4944 : ata: Prevent powering-off ATA hardwre if it reports as mSATA or m.2 by Solomon Peachy |
| 20:37:12 | _bilgus_ | given on 64mb tahts quite a few might be a loss there |
| 20:37:24 | speachy | it's probably a net win |
| 20:37:59 | speachy | the change seems harmless otherwise so I'm gonna merge it and holler at the forum user to try the build. |
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| 20:40:24 | _bilgus_ | oh speaking of that patch g#2523 had some fallout this week its pointed out a weakness in multiboot |
| 20:40:27 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #2523 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/2523 : fat: Validate FS Info Sector signature when attempting to mount volume by Solomon Peachy |
| 20:40:56 | _bilgus_ | where the bootloader and fw are no longer in lockstep |
| 20:41:57 | _bilgus_ | will probably move to passing a drive and volume or something else in an update |
| 20:42:35 | _bilgus_ | amachronic wants to make all paths have a drive and partition still unsure if thats worth it |
| 20:42:41 | speachy | I saw that in the logs, yeah |
| 20:43:17 | speachy | I'd rather be correct than fast in this case. |
| 20:43:54 | speachy | that patch was necessary to prevent mis-identification of partitions though |
| 20:43:55 | _bilgus_ | for sure as the downside is not good to say the least |
| 20:44:39 | _bilgus_ | oh don't take it as criticism just FYI |
| 20:45:42 | _bilgus_ | or even bitching for that matter as I was the one who failed to think about the case of changing drive/volume availability |
| 20:46:06 | speachy | yeah, special cases are why we can't have nice things |
| 20:46:26 | _bilgus_ | itd be the same as those two sd card units ejecting the first drive in the middle of BL and FW boot |
| 20:46:55 | _bilgus_ | luckily I left some room for more bootdata :) |
| 20:47:22 | _bilgus_ | its enough to pass a version flag and more info |
| 20:47:34 | _bilgus_ | so we can be backwards compatible |
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