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| 03:10:16 | jssfr | I've been using rockbox for more than a decade now (on various different devices) and I'd just like to say thanks again :) |
| 03:11:43 | jssfr | the thing y'all here made has been accompanying me through approximately half my life now and it's always been such a great source of pleasure and happiness. |
| 03:12:02 | jssfr | all the best to you, enjoy the holidays if that applies to you! |
| 03:46:41 | jssfr | (also, the rockbox compressor is the only compressor which doesn't get annoying to listen to; I spent a few hours the other day to understand how it works to replicate it using easyeffects on my computers :)) |
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| 13:10:30 | dandu3 | sup |
| 13:12:37 | dandu3 | i have an ipod classic, I have gotten rockbox working if I format it from the bootloader but then itunes doesn't see it properly. now I have the apple firmware working correctly and windows can see it fine in disk mode and whatever, but the rockbox bootloader indicates no partition found |
| 13:12:59 | dandu3 | and windows offers to format the disk |
| 13:13:35 | dandu3 | I have replaced the hard drive in this unit and it's my first time with this kind of ipod so maybe I'm doing something wrong |
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| 13:44:38 | speachy | that's the 6/7g ipod (ie what apple sold as the "classic")? |
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| 14:00:11 | alex85 | Hi all, my name is Alex and I am new to rockbox! I am an artist working with an old iPod 6G and got rockbox installed on it. I want to create a custom plugin and already made some test which worked successfully. However, in the next step I would like to create a custom hardware accessory for the ipod. I know that the ipod 6g aap has not been |
| 14:00:12 | alex85 | accessed yet (is that right?) but I was wondering what the limits are. I am looking for someone who might be up for supporting me in developing this. I have a budget available and would like to contribute the resulting knowledge of my project to the rockbox community. |
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| 14:02:37 | speachy | it's my understanding that both the serial and usb IAP protocol are documented. I believe Rockbox has a pretty completre implemetnation of the serial protocol. |
| 14:03:29 | speachy | but the USB protocol remains untouched, as is playing audio out via USB. |
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| 15:44:36 | dandu3 | @speachy I think so. its the one with 1.1.2 firmware. might be 5g? |
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| 15:52:38 | speachy | if you look up the model number engraved on the back it'll tell you what model it is. |
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| 16:00:05 | dandu3 | a1238, so yea 6th |
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| 16:01:52 | dandu3 | i got the drive on ebay and it's a similar toshiba drive with different model. I don't see how that would change anything seeing as when I format it from rockbox it's fine, but still. |
| 16:02:03 | dandu3 | I must be doing something wrong |
| 16:04:19 | dandu3 | in disk management I see an 89 mb partition and the rest is listed as RAW. |
| 16:04:34 | dandu3 | when unplugging from USB i get a panic |
| 16:04:43 | dandu3 | mount:0 |
| 16:05:02 | dandu3 | pc:22021CAC sp:08800B38 |
| 16:05:04 | dandu3 | bt end |
| 16:09:01 | dandu3 | HDD is TOSHIBA MK8025GAL |
| 16:12:14 | dandu3 | https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/host-protected-area-toshiba-mk8025gas-laptop-drive.402822/ |
| 16:12:36 | dandu3 | i wonder if this could be a possibilty |
| 16:14:45 | dandu3 | I am doing this on a ARM windows laptop too lol so this has been a fun experiance if anything, fun as in every single thing seems to be working, even the DFU tools are 100% functional which I didn't expect |
| 16:16:22 | dandu3 | I used rufus to do an initial format while in disk mode, cuz information is somewhat sparse about how to replace the HDD properly, and iTunes being an unsupporting liar didn't help |
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| 17:50:58 | amachronic | _bilgus_ i've enhanced multiboot with drive and partition checks ( g#4949) |
| 17:51:01 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #4949 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/4949 : multiboot: Add v1 boot protocol by Aidan MacDonald |
| 17:52:48 | dandu3 | will this help my bootloader find it's partitions :'( |
| 17:53:33 | amachronic | no its for the benefit of sansas mainly |
| 17:54:05 | dandu3 | i was mainly joking, but do you know how to check this? seems like you might have some knowledge of disks and such |
| 17:54:33 | dandu3 | i have access to a linux pc |
| 17:54:56 | amachronic | i'm not that familiar with ipods |
| 17:55:00 | dandu3 | I see |
| 17:58:12 | _bilgus_ | amachronic, nice! I've since freed up some space in the bootloader since multiboot was pushed if we are updating bootloaders I might revisit it as well |
| 17:58:41 | _bilgus_ | I had a bug fix already that I found last few weeks |
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| 18:00:04 | _bilgus_ | dandu __builtin is our residen ipod guy along with a few others who pop in time to time |
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| 18:03:37 | _bilgus_ | hactar|ant or CH23_M if around might have a bit of insight as well |
| 18:03:54 | CH231 | hey |
| 18:04:16 | dandu3 | thanks |
| 18:04:25 | | Nick CH231 is now known as CH23 (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) |
| 18:05:05 | CH23 | ah my Sansa was sadly lost, i'm using an iPod classic exclusively now |
| 18:05:26 | _bilgus_ | dandu3, that error on USB unplug might be the same error being discussed on the forum |
| 18:06:06 | dandu3 | you'll find it in the couch, 3 years after you'd already bought a new one. at least, that's what happened to my isesamo |
| 18:06:16 | dandu3 | I didn't check the forums actually lol |
| 18:06:18 | dandu3 | let me see |
| 18:06:26 | _bilgus_ | is your issue just that you can't get the fw on? |
| 18:06:36 | hactar|ant | classic as in 6/7g? |
| 18:06:45 | dandu3 | yeah |
| 18:06:48 | dandu3 | 6g |
| 18:06:57 | dandu3 | it says no partitions found |
| 18:07:03 | hactar|ant | hrm. i've only rockboxed a 6/7g once and that was for a friend, i don't own one |
| 18:07:09 | hactar|ant | mine are all earlier |
| 18:07:17 | hactar|ant | i remember the dfu thing being annoying though |
| 18:07:19 | dandu3 | and it shows 2 partitions with the main one lists as being RAW |
| 18:07:28 | dandu3 | it works just fine in the apple firmware |
| 18:08:00 | dandu3 | and I've formatted it from within the bootloader and that worked |
| 18:08:22 | hactar|ant | yeah not my area of expertise sorry (not sure i even have an area of expertise, i just have a lot of old, modded ipods) |
| 18:08:34 | dandu3 | lol |
| 18:08:34 | hactar|ant | does it still have the hdd or did you iflash? |
| 18:08:40 | dandu3 | i installed a new hdd |
| 18:09:05 | dandu3 | I might be doing something wrong with parititions and such |
| 18:09:12 | _bilgus_ | so after getting it formatted does windows still show it as being a RAW volume? |
| 18:09:26 | dandu3 | if I format it from rockbox it works in rockbozx |
| 18:09:42 | dandu3 | but IIRC then it showed up as raw in the apple disk mode |
| 18:09:52 | _bilgus_ | yeah I vaguely remember this being an issue |
| 18:10:05 | _bilgus_ | I don't ipod either but give me a minute |
| 18:10:14 | dandu3 | there's also an 89 mb partition which I guess might be the apple fqw |
| 18:10:17 | dandu3 | fw |
| 18:10:18 | dandu3 | ? |
| 18:11:25 | dandu3 | there's a non 0 chance that I just need to format it now in windows and then both would work |
| 18:12:43 | dandu3 | because I didn't get the apple firmware working until after I think, and I cleaned the whole disk with diskpart a couple times trying to get it to work |
| 18:14:18 | dandu3 | or idk, i'm just confused. it's fat32 and I don't know why it can't properly recognize it lol... |
| 18:21:52 | _bilgus_ | well it always has a hidden partition on the ipods maybe its just backwards |
| 18:22:19 | _bilgus_ | FW I was reffering to the rockbox install ( part after the bootloader) |
| 18:23:37 | dandu3 | well the rockbox install is there but if it can't get no partitions then I guess that's not worth much |
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| 18:25:01 | dandu3 | should the partition be hidden when looking from the rockbox bootloader too» |
| 18:26:23 | dandu3 | it's listed as hidden, nvm |
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| 18:28:26 | _bilgus_ | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,53879.msg248644.html#msg248644 |
| 18:29:01 | _bilgus_ | I can't find the post i'm thinking of but if this works for iflash installs it should work for you^ |
| 18:30:06 | dandu3 | hmm |
| 18:31:26 | _bilgus_ | otherwise if in a linux vm I can probably help you but windows and ipod are both 4 letter words at this point |
| 18:31:51 | dandu3 | nah i have a real linux pc |
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| 18:59:14 | CH23 | oh i misinterpreted that thing, i thought there was something with multiboot on sansas |
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| 19:02:51 | _bilgus_ | no its ipod |
| 19:03:29 | _bilgus_ | 6g |
| 19:03:29 | _bilgus_ | <dandu3> it says no partitions found |
| 19:03:29 | _bilgus_ | <hactar|ant> hrm. i've only rockboxed a 6/7g once and that was for a friend, i don't own one |
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| 19:03:29 | _bilgus_ | <hactar|ant> mine are all earlier |
| 19:03:29 | _bilgus_ | <hactar|ant> i remember the dfu thing being annoying though |
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| 19:03:30 | _bilgus_ | <dandu3> and it shows 2 partitions with the main one lists as being RAW |
| 19:03:32 | _bilgus_ | <dandu3> it works just fine in the apple firmware |
| 19:03:34 | _bilgus_ | <dandu3> and I've formatted it from within the bootloader and that worked |
| 19:03:55 | _bilgus_ | hell even i managed to miss hactag interacting already |
| 19:04:04 | _bilgus_ | hactar |
| 19:05:22 | CH23 | i just took the µSD card in slot 1 of my iflash quad and it has 2 partitions plus 'unallocated'. partition 1 is 24MiB, partition 2 is 45.81GiB, 'unallocated' is 137.51GiB. I don't believe that is actually unallocated space. |
| 19:07:02 | CH23 | µSD card 2 looks fully unallocated in gparted but is not, so these cards are basically individually not readable. |
| 19:10:17 | CH23 | okay so they have issues where if they format it from a computer, the 3 different boot modes will not always work, right? |
| 19:10:57 | CH23 | i have a second iflash quad, hopefully a µSD card too. i'll try some stuff |
| 19:11:06 | _bilgus_ | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64562 |
| 19:11:36 | _bilgus_ | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,54393.msg251338.html#msg251338 |
| 19:11:55 | _bilgus_ | sorry I clicked on the name instead of the post |
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| 19:13:40 | CH23 | oh sweet, i can do this. found a 32gb µSD card |
| 19:17:26 | _bilgus_ | nice ipod has a need for documentaion |
| 19:17:56 | CH23 | well the manual restore page is not made for the iPod Classic, that much I can tell ya. no MBR for it there. |
| 19:20:11 | CH23 | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=53363.0 |
| 19:20:54 | CH23 | seems i'm not the first who's journey ends here. I hope dandu3 will come back, I'd like to know what they've done so far |
| 19:25:59 | CH23 | just formatting the µSD usinf "sudo mkfs.fat -I -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/mmcblk0" and then plugging it into the iPod shows me the rockbox bootloader with the message that no partition is found, entering usb mode, plug usb cable. |
| 19:27:03 | CH23 | shows as fat32 in linux when connected to USB |
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| 19:35:28 | bilgus_ph | Amachronic can we get rid of crc32 in bootloaders v2? |
| 19:36:14 | bilgus_ph | Fnv should be good enough and it would free up some space assuming there are no other users |
| 19:37:11 | bilgus_ph | Ch23 there are way to reserve some space at the beginning of the drive |
| 19:37:50 | CH23 | is it only about space, nothing needs to be there? |
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| 19:45:30 | bilgus_ph | yper parted -l |
| 19:45:36 | bilgus_ph | Type |
| 19:46:26 | bilgus_ph | Does it say anything about the disk being removable? |
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| 19:50:27 | CH23 | i formatted again but via usb(so with the iPod connected instead of just the µSD card) and now it says 'Error! Can't load rockbox.ipod: file not found' |
| 19:50:39 | CH23 | i'll try rbutility |
| 19:51:12 | bilgus_ph | you should be able to use mkpart on it and set the start of the drive as starting at 90mb |
| 19:51:20 | bilgus_ph | Or 24mb |
| 19:56:34 | CH23 | right now it seems to be stuck in DFU mode... |
| 19:56:55 | bilgus_ph | https://phoenixnap.com/kb/linux-create-partition |
| 19:57:06 | bilgus_ph | Something like this |
| 19:57:55 | bilgus_ph | They appear to have fdisk options too depending on what you have already |
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| 20:00:07 | bilgus_ph | Basically start your partition with empty space msdos partition type most likely then format the drive fat32 the bigger one |
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| 20:02:41 | CH23 | i have rockbox running now |
| 20:03:22 | bilgus_ph | Do tell.. |
| 20:03:25 | CH23 | booting to default apple partition says 'restore using itunes' |
| 20:03:53 | bilgus_ph | Is that with the empty space |
| 20:04:09 | CH23 | no, one sec i'll tell what i did exactly |
| 20:05:09 | bilgus_ph | If you can make an image of your working drive with the iPod stuff you can probably make a restore image |
| 20:05:37 | CH23 | well i formatted the whole ipod to a single fat32 partition via USB/gparted, rebooted and reconnected. mounted it, then just followed the steps in the rockbox utility to install bootloader and rockbox.ipod. finished that, rebooted, rockbox. |
| 20:06:19 | bilgus_ph | Oh I think you still need that empty space for the ipod |
| 20:06:41 | bilgus_ph | Does it match your other one? |
| 20:06:53 | bilgus_ph | I think rockbox is less anal |
| 20:07:28 | CH23 | most likely not, but didn't dandu3 say that his og firmware worked? |
| 20:07:59 | bilgus_ph | I suspect it turned the empty space into the hidden one |
| 20:08:18 | CH23 | probably, yes. |
| 20:08:18 | bilgus_ph | But I don't do iPods so SWAG |
| 20:08:36 | CH23 | they're fun, you totally should! |
| 20:08:55 | bilgus_ph | Iits far to large to survive me |
| 20:09:09 | CH23 | specifically the 6th gen nano since i just bought one of those and it has no rockbox support as of yet :P |
| 20:10:11 | bilgus_ph | Ive dropped stuff down drains a fuze and a clipzip both survive today the fuze needs a battery |
| 20:10:54 | CH23 | well well well. i rebooted to the og apple fw (which is not there) and then to diskmode. now when i try to get back into rockbox it says no partition found again |
| 20:11:25 | bilgus_ph | Yes sounds like my hypothesis might be right |
| 20:11:46 | bilgus_ph | Like I said Scientific Wild Ass Guess |
| 20:12:51 | CH23 | i'll do a reinstall, boot into rockbox, reboot into rockbox, then check µSD. then boot into og apple, reboot into rockbox, check µSD, then boot into diskmode, reboot into rockbox, and check µSD |
| 20:13:18 | bilgus_ph | I think I'll solder a 18650 or a 17700 or something to my fuze plus maybe I can get a buddy to make me a bigger back for it |
| 20:13:42 | CH23 | why not pluck a few e-cigarettes from the streets? |
| 20:13:47 | CH23 | free batteries! |
| 20:14:36 | bilgus_ph | I figure a week on the fuze would do better with a bigger battery |
| 20:14:37 | CH23 | a 64mb partition appeared out of nowhere. i wonder if diskmode or the apple og firmware added that |
| 20:15:13 | bilgus_ph | Probably did if so now partition the remaining and format to f32 |
| 20:16:41 | CH23 | if so, that basically means steps can be bypassed |
| 20:16:58 | bilgus_ph | Can you make an image onice out get it done that should be an easy way to replicate |
| 20:17:29 | CH23 | of the whole µSD or just the first partition of 64MiB |
| 20:17:45 | bilgus_ph | That's similar to how I made Sansaid recovery images and then just did a compressed img |
| 20:17:53 | bilgus_ph | Sansa |
| 20:18:28 | bilgus_ph | Probably the whole thing it'll be big but then you compress ends up a few mb |
| 20:18:57 | CH23 | what size does rockbox __need__? |
| 20:19:15 | CH23 | I have a 512MB µSD card I could use otherwise |
| 20:19:44 | bilgus_ph | Oh likely 12mbish but you want w/e apple wants or larger |
| 20:19:54 | bilgus_ph | It should work |
| 20:20:23 | CH23 | why have a 2TB iPod when you can have a 512MB one :P |
| 20:20:55 | bilgus_ph | Hell yeah mamess it faster |
| 20:21:06 | CH23 | what exactly do you want in the disk image? a full restore from iTunes, or just the one i have now, or with rockbox installed? |
| 20:21:26 | bilgus_ph | You can tweak it to allow different sizes of a secondary |
| 20:21:59 | bilgus_ph | I did with rub installed to make it easy to get up well the bootloader |
| 20:22:10 | CH23 | aight |
| 20:22:12 | bilgus_ph | Rockbox* |
| 20:23:04 | bilgus_ph | Then the have a minimum viable way to do more |
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| 20:26:43 | _bilgus_ | sorry my phone really sucks to irc on |
| 20:28:12 | CH23 | i keep mine always connected but only because i don't have a bouncer yet |
| 20:28:22 | _bilgus_ | I wonder do we have any targets that are 32 bit rather than 24 bit? |
| 20:28:34 | _bilgus_ | display size |
| 20:28:52 | CH23 | can i make a disk image over usb in rockbox boot loader usb mode? |
| 20:29:07 | _bilgus_ | probabably |
| 20:29:19 | CH23 | i am not sure how cross compatible a direct µSD disk image would be |
| 20:29:26 | _bilgus_ | it depends if rockbox blocks the access |
| 20:29:39 | CH23 | i mean, rockbox in this mode is not loaded |
| 20:29:47 | _bilgus_ | ch23 if you make a compressed image I can open it and edit if need be |
| 20:30:21 | _bilgus_ | with the clip+ and clipzip I had to expose the beginning |
| 20:30:56 | _bilgus_ | there is a special fw patch on gerrit which I should probably update |
| 20:31:05 | _bilgus_ | but thats for the sansa |
| 20:31:54 | _bilgus_ | yeah rockbox has devices with XRGB8888 |
| 20:33:35 | _bilgus_ | i'm looking into QOI Quite Ok Image Format i'd like to make it our internal image format well a version tht is device agnostic |
| 20:34:06 | _bilgus_ | using fbdata instead of char8 |
| 20:55:29 | CH23 | _bilgus_, do you happen to be on telegram so i can get you the file? |
| 20:55:54 | _bilgus_ | no i don't have that how big is it? |
| 20:56:03 | CH23 | 60mb |
| 20:57:02 | CH23 | i can try through irc otherwise |
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| 22:57:53 | CH23_M | For those who are interested in weird stuff: the iPod Classic and Rockbox work with 512MB total disk space lol |
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