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| 01:22:08 | paulcarroty | someone recommended jvc gumy here, also cheap panasonic is crazy good |
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| 03:23:28 | tm512 | I quite like the sound of the Truthear Hola, maybe a bit too bright sounding, I can't really place what the issue is |
| 03:24:21 | tm512 | but for $19, they're shockingly good |
| 03:25:24 | tm512 | like my main point of reference is the HD600 which cost me over 10x as much |
| 03:25:56 | tm512 | I think they'll pair nice with the Fuze+, just have to wait for that to arrive |
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| 07:24:44 | _bilgus | JVC gummy was prob me I think I'm down to 8 pairs from 10 |
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| 08:33:26 | _bilgus | dook what exactly are you wanting here are you looking to expand it, having an issue, or wanting to knw how it works inside? or all 3? |
| 08:35:02 | _bilgus | ss->length; is already carrying the payload for the string length (guessing -1 for use strlen) |
| 08:36:12 | _bilgus | we should actually be checking that that the supplied len is within bounds but it MIGHT be checked later |
| 08:36:39 | _bilgus | actually I should be looking at the current file instead of these commits |
| 08:38:28 | _bilgus | yeah its now utf8 aware and that case is covered |
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| 09:26:26 | dook | _bilgus: I'm trying to work out how it reads tags, specifically I'm trying to add the same functionality to the %St tag |
| 09:28:24 | dook | It might be easier for me to make a new tag, seems %St would need an entry in wps_internals.h in order to read tags which it doesn't have right now |
| 09:53:42 | _bilgus | had to look up the tag %St 'Showing other settings' |
| 09:54:32 | _bilgus | I see its already extended 'Displays the setting value as a bar' |
| 09:55:17 | _bilgus | so you want to limit the string returned for the setting then? |
| 09:57:07 | _bilgus | so first off you will have to change the logic a bit https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_parser.c#L823 |
| 09:57:33 | _bilgus | right now it assums more than 1 param is the progressbar mode |
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| 10:01:32 | _bilgus | and that tag is handled as a token here: https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_tokens.c#L1372 |
| 10:05:33 | _bilgus | now what might trip you up is certain tags may be using different portions your substring tag uses struct substring for example so you will have to figure out how to reference that from the other |
| 10:06:21 | _bilgus | which I think you alluded to above if we are on the same page here |
| 10:07:30 | _bilgus | OI usb while radio is on IS all bad |
| 10:08:18 | _bilgus | I couldn't control buttons bc its mapped to USB actions it started scrolling random lang strings and crashed on unplug |
| 10:18:19 | _bilgus | I think you will be able to get away with reusing the tag if you only want length |
| 10:18:43 | _bilgus | but if you want to change start position and length something will have to give |
| 10:19:47 | _bilgus | Going to need to be a new token but i'd try to link it back to the logic to not add too much code |
| 10:22:21 | _bilgus | If you want to work on some of that I can help you link up the missing parts as you get stuck as time permits |
| 10:26:38 | _bilgus | I'm not sure if there is a limit to parameters either but you could alternatively add an extra field to still use %St or perhaps you could examine the content of the fields and suss out what you are looking at with get_param(element, 1)->type |
| 10:27:08 | _bilgus | so if the second parameter is a number instead of SETTING then this must be a substring request |
| 10:29:08 | _bilgus | I'm off I'll check back 4-10 hours from now |
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| 12:17:40 | dook | Sorry only got around to reading these now |
| 12:18:38 | dook | I did a bad job at explaining what I'm trying to do, I'm looking to make %St(%St(qs top)) etc. work on themes |
| 12:19:44 | dook | Since there's no way to get a quickscreen item's status with theme tags, which I want to use for a more visual quickscreen |
| 12:21:16 | dook | So I was looking at the %ss tag since it can read other tag's values, but looking at what you sent and explained I suspect it might not be simple to do |
| 12:22:36 | dook | A more elegant solution is probably to create a tag for quickscreens, like %qs. I understand the part of adding new tags at least, so the hard part should just be linking the quickscreen data to the output |
| 12:23:55 | dook | I should clarify it would work like %qs(left), which would output off, shuffle, a-b etc. for the default shuffle |
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| 14:37:21 | tm512 | cuetools has some weird behavior on how it rips tags from cue files |
| 14:37:53 | tm512 | multi-word strings get extracted fine, but anything that is just one word ends up in quotes |
| 14:40:00 | tm512 | I might just resort to a utility like easytag which I remember using in the past, just tagging my split files using a CDDB |
| 14:41:30 | tm512 | or I guess I could modify cuetool's cuetag.sh to filter every tag it grabs through sed 's/^"\(.*\)"$/\1/' |
| 14:41:36 | tm512 | bit annoying though |
| 14:42:36 | tm512 | or I guess I could just give rockbox the cue and a lossy encode of the whole album instead of splitting, if that would work |
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| 15:29:44 | tm512 | also, Fuze+ arrived, gonna go grab it from the mailbox |
| 15:37:27 | tm512 | wow, this packaging. they really took a minimalist, "let's leave it to the mercy of USPS" approach |
| 15:38:35 | tm512 | everything was just tossed into a very thin padded envelope |
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| 15:50:42 | tm512 | at least it arrived in good shape. they put the DAP itself in a plastic bag but it wasn't taped shut so fortunately it didn't come lose and start scraping against the microUSB cable they included |
| 15:57:15 | tm512 | I'm somehow struggling to get this thing to power on. it powers on to show that it's charging when I plug it in, and it appears to have a full charge, but none of the physical buttons on it seem to actually boot it up |
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| 16:15:33 | tm512 | I'm wondering if the power button is busted :/ the device just doesn't respond to it at all |
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| 16:19:22 | _bilgus | dook the quickscreen stuff is in the same boat as those other settings const struct settings_list *qs_items[QUICKSCREEN_ITEM_COUNT]; |
| 16:19:35 | _bilgus | likely ST can just be extended a bit |
| 16:19:47 | _bilgus | %St |
| 16:21:28 | _bilgus | tm512 when it powers on does it go all the way to the main menu? |
| 16:22:02 | tm512 | it won't boot at all |
| 16:22:14 | tm512 | it only powers on to show the "connected" screen when I have it connected to my PC |
| 16:22:24 | _bilgus | so it boots |
| 16:22:47 | _bilgus | dos it immediately turn off when you pull the USB? |
| 16:22:50 | _bilgus | does* |
| 16:23:25 | tm512 | yeah |
| 16:23:38 | _bilgus | thats a bad battery |
| 16:24:12 | _bilgus | what has likely happened is the battery is too low and the protection circuit has disconnected |
| 16:24:37 | tm512 | like a battery that's totally screwed, or do I just need to give the device a good charge? the charge indicator shows that it's full though... |
| 16:24:52 | _bilgus | so you might get lucky to leave it plugged for a long while but in the past what I have done is charged the battery a bit manually |
| 16:25:14 | _bilgus | its showing full bc its plugged |
| 16:25:50 | tm512 | I dunno that I'm equipped to manually charge the battery |
| 16:26:01 | _bilgus | two double As |
| 16:26:29 | _bilgus | that should be enough to get it to charge and not blow up in the process |
| 16:26:52 | _bilgus | maybe 3 |
| 16:28:05 | tm512 | also one thing I found a bit odd is that plugging this into my wall adapter (which outputs a lot more juice) doesn't bring up the "connected" screen |
| 16:28:28 | _bilgus | basically you are going to hook up the double As for about % mins then plug the charger leave it for about 5 mins and remove the doubleAs and see if it takes |
| 16:28:45 | _bilgus | thats typical |
| 16:28:54 | _bilgus | mine doesnt either |
| 16:29:17 | tm512 | under normal circumstances would it still actually be charging through the wall adapter? |
| 16:29:24 | _bilgus | hook them for about 5 mins before plugging the charger |
| 16:29:44 | _bilgus | sure but the battery has a physical disconnection |
| 16:30:40 | _bilgus | so we will try and bring up the charge a bit note this isn't at the wires black and red but at the actual battery connection to its protection board |
| 16:31:33 | _bilgus | gotta bring it up enough to start charging but do keep an eye on it if the pack starts swelling or gets hot it might catch on fire (always a concern with flat liions) |
| 16:32:33 | _bilgus | I recently brought a roomba back to life like this too :p |
| 16:33:38 | _bilgus | my Fuze plus did this several times when I didn't drive my truck often |
| 16:33:55 | tm512 | you seemed to imply there's a chance just leaving it plugged in normally for a while could bring it back to life. if so, that's what I'm going to try first |
| 16:34:12 | _bilgus | sometimes |
| 16:34:21 | tm512 | if it doesn't work out, I'm just going to send it back for a replacement |
| 16:34:30 | _bilgus | that works too |
| 16:35:43 | _bilgus | actually i've been waiting on someone thats supposed to 3d print me a back for 18650s in my fuze+ |
| 16:36:13 | _bilgus | If he doesn't ever get around to it I might lost wax cast some |
| 16:38:06 | _bilgus | what I never liked about the fuze+ was the headphone jack at the bottom it was nice flipping the screen in RB |
| 16:38:09 | tm512 | seems like those 18650 batteries would make the device a lot more cumbersome |
| 16:38:20 | _bilgus | its already cumbersome to me |
| 16:38:30 | _bilgus | might as well last 3 weeks |
| 16:39:20 | tm512 | also, assuming this seller can't get me a Fuze+ that doesn't have a dead battery, rather than attempting a manual charge, it seems like it'd be just about as much of a project to just replace the battery |
| 16:39:49 | _bilgus | its nothing to replace it |
| 16:40:03 | _bilgus | one of the easiest sansas in my experience |
| 16:40:33 | tm512 | would be nice to know whether the battery is some standard form factor, or if this is really the only option: https://www.amazon.com/NewPower99-SanDisk-Sansa-Fuze-Installation/dp/B008MZM68E/ |
| 16:40:34 | _bilgus | mine is on its 2nd or 3rd but it sees a lot of time in the sun in my truck |
| 16:40:49 | _bilgus | it is |
| 16:41:09 | _bilgus | the number on it should list or reference a size |
| 16:42:15 | _bilgus | I don't think you can go much bigger in any direction and I wouldn't go thicker because when the battery starts failing it puts pressure on the touch pad and screen and it doesn't work right |
| 16:42:17 | tm512 | if it's gonna need a replacement like I might as well get one that has like 1000mAh of charge or something, instead of the 550mAh of that specific replacement |
| 16:42:51 | _bilgus | so my thought was you will just make that occur faster going thicker |
| 16:43:30 | _bilgus | I got tired of that hence the replaceable 18650 idea |
| 16:44:09 | tm512 | well having this plugged in for a while now it does seem like the device is slightly warm to the touch but maybe that's just heat dissipation from the LCD and not the battery charging |
| 16:45:32 | _bilgus | eh IDK maybe keep it away from your stack of papers on the wooden desk |
| 16:45:59 | _bilgus | just sayin |
| 16:46:58 | _bilgus | I *Might still have the old battery let me look |
| 16:48:43 | _bilgus | no dice |
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| 16:59:19 | _bilgus | tm512, if you do open your device remeber to eject the sdcard |
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| 17:00:05 | tm512 | well now plugging it into my wall charger (rather than PC) actually gets it to boot, though I don't know if that actually signifies any progress, it still immediately powers off on disconnection |
| 17:01:01 | _bilgus | sounds like progress |
| 17:01:43 | _bilgus | my next question would be how long has it been off like does a fully charged battery go flat in a day? or a week? |
| 17:03:47 | _bilgus | dook AFAICT you already have this functionality %St("qs top") |
| 17:03:57 | _bilgus | or am I missing something?? |
| 17:05:17 | tm512 | actually opening this thing up is kind of a ways off. note that I don't even have stuff like a soldering iron to attempt a battery replacement, nor do I have really anything to really attempt a manual charge, assuming there's actually an easier way than taping wires to a couple batteries and manually holding the wires against the charging leads |
| 17:06:43 | tm512 | for all intents and purposes I'm a normie when it comes to like actual electronics work. like I'm alright with software, and I'm also pretty decent with hardware at a high level, but not so much with electronics |
| 17:08:18 | _bilgus | dook https://pastebin.com/9CdaRSZm |
| 17:08:54 | tm512 | if I bring this device back to life I'm also curious about how damaged the battery got by sitting around for over a decade |
| 17:09:01 | _bilgus | this is like 1 step above replacing batteries in a smoke detector |
| 17:09:20 | _bilgus | battery replace yes bit more involved |
| 17:10:02 | _bilgus | if I can get a roomba working with 2 paper clips and a 9v in the same manner I think the part list is pretty low |
| 17:10:33 | tm512 | hmm so now I am wondering if there is a problem with the power button on this thing or if the OF is just shit |
| 17:10:36 | _bilgus | I wouldn't use a 9v there though |
| 17:10:43 | tm512 | I can't seem to unlock the device |
| 17:10:44 | _bilgus | yhe OF IS SHIT |
| 17:10:46 | _bilgus | lol |
| 17:11:32 | _bilgus | I don't remember what the key combo is |
| 17:11:45 | tm512 | it says to press the power button to unlock, or hold to power off |
| 17:12:25 | _bilgus | yeah 0.5s |
| 17:12:57 | _bilgus | that should also hard reset it but I don't have it here to test if mine will do it on charge |
| 17:14:02 | tm512 | the power button just doesn't unlock it, despite the fact I was able to get it locked |
| 17:15:00 | _bilgus | I hate that OF so bad if it wasn't for the safety net of recovery I'd have disabled it |
| 17:15:48 | _bilgus | Scanning Media ... |
| 17:15:56 | _bilgus | ... |
| 17:17:06 | _bilgus | though the time I needed it it didn't work luckily Pamaury had made a recovery program |
| 17:18:33 | _bilgus | He is also the one that did all that Sony SPL region limiting stuff |
| 17:18:43 | _bilgus | well unlimiting I suppose |
| 17:18:57 | tm512 | I do hope rockbox isn't as sluggish as this OF, because yeesh, it's like it's begging for proper graphics acceleration |
| 17:19:20 | _bilgus | OH it runs so nice that RAM is massive and the CPU is fast |
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| 17:19:46 | _bilgus | It really goes to show how much of a train wreck the OF must be |
| 17:19:58 | _bilgus | code blocks? |
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| 17:20:46 | tm512 | but yeah, seems like the power button is faulty, even if the battery recovers. I can't unlock the device, nor can I power it off or even do a force reset |
| 17:21:31 | _bilgus | I can't say for sure that it will let you do that |
| 17:22:19 | _bilgus | you can unplug it and it turns off still right do you have access to a pc that you can run linux on a live cd? |
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| 17:23:01 | tm512 | I run Linux already |
| 17:23:47 | _bilgus | try vol up and power button |
| 17:24:30 | _bilgus | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlus.html |
| 17:27:26 | tm512 | what state should the device be in when I try that, and what exactly is it supposed to accomplish? not seeing this mentioned when skimming the wiki page |
| 17:27:46 | _bilgus | anyway I seem to remember in the Tools directory he had a little recovery fw that will list button presses and such |
| 17:28:24 | _bilgus | will have to go back and look at the IRC logs its probably been 10 years |
| 17:29:24 | _bilgus | but I recall it wasn't permanent it loaded to ram and ran |
| 17:29:27 | tm512 | holding volume up and power seems to temporarily remove the lock screen but it comes back after a second or two |
| 17:29:42 | _bilgus | weird |
| 17:30:05 | _bilgus | I'd say you have enough to send it back why deal with it |
| 17:30:07 | tm512 | nevermind, it just seems to be registering the volume button |
| 17:30:34 | _bilgus | I'm all for fixing shit but they sold you it as working |
| 17:30:35 | tm512 | holding volume up temporarily removes the lock screen to show the volume slider |
| 17:30:47 | _bilgus | 0 for 2 |
| 17:32:56 | _bilgus | I hope there is a way to generate that file and he didn't just give it to me |
| 17:33:15 | _bilgus | hmm I should still have it somewhere... |
| 17:33:33 | _bilgus | let me know if and when you get to that poing :) |
| 17:33:37 | _bilgus | point. |
| 17:39:10 | tm512 | hopefully this seller has one that works. I was just hoping this would magically arrive in working order but honestly I should've just bought one of these e200Rs I was looking at that are confirmed working, despite being used |
| 17:40:39 | _bilgus | with the special dock connector? |
| 17:42:12 | tm512 | yeah, though the one I was looking at included the cable. suboptimal compared to a device that uses a standard connector like the Fuze+, but still |
| 17:44:19 | tm512 | also what I thought was the battery indicator showing 100% is actually displaying 0%, I misinterpreted the full white bar |
| 17:44:33 | tm512 | probably not a good sign that it's not showing that it's charging |
| 17:45:45 | _bilgus | didnt the e200 have a cellphone type battery |
| 17:46:03 | tm512 | no idea tbh |
| 17:47:04 | _bilgus | hmm wonder if those are available |
| 17:48:06 | _bilgus | pretty sure v2 had the sd card wonder if v1 did I didn't see the battery or sd card mentioned on our wiki |
| 17:49:04 | _bilgus | tm512 how many of those e200s were available I wouln't be sniping you if I went and bought one? |
| 17:51:34 | _bilgus | nah nm its narly as thick as my 18650 franken fuze |
| 17:51:48 | _bilgus | nearly lol |
| 17:52:39 | _bilgus | I do like the fuze v2 have one but I don't usually leave it in the truck |
| 17:58:52 | _bilgus | more interested in this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116001443314 but not enough to bid in 5 days lol |
| 17:59:24 | _bilgus | the one on the lft is a clip not clip+ |
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| 18:03:21 | tm512 | kinda bummed that the e200R I was looking at ended up selling, because I could've gotten it for <$30 and it had basically all of the original stuff with it |
| 18:03:31 | tm512 | my desire for something new old stock screwed me over |
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| 18:10:52 | tm512 | I'll contact the seller. I'm kinda hoping that they might trust me enough to send a couple replacement units to give me more of a chance to find one that works, letting me ship back my current unit and the other one that I don't keep, but maybe that's wishful thinking |
| 18:11:28 | tm512 | if the Fuze+ stuff doesn't work out maybe I will just go with an older iPod Classic and pick up an SD card mod for it |
| 18:12:28 | tm512 | what are battery replacements like on the old iPods, does it require solder work, or was Apple nice enough to add some kind of connector to the PCB for that? |
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| 18:33:17 | dook | bilgus_ that's for just the setting names basically, which does work really well, but you can't show the status of those quick settings in a theme |
| 18:36:50 | dook | I do think you're onto something with the idea of extending St, though I'll need to look into how the settings list is made |
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| 19:08:48 | tm512 | so I did end up messaging the seller about getting a replacement. just bummed that my rockbox adventure has been delayed |
| 19:09:21 | tm512 | guess for a while I'm going to be stuck using my phone with my new IEMs like a normal person |
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| 20:10:57 | _bilgus | so if its set to repeat for qs left you want it to say REPEAT OFF ? |
| 20:11:07 | _bilgus | @dook |
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| 23:02:29 | tm512 | well, now I'm just considering asking for a refund and ditching the whole idea of the Fuze+. I finally got around to plugging in my new IEMs to see how this sounds, and it's so noisy |
| 23:02:42 | tm512 | there's a very audible hiss |
| 23:04:27 | tm512 | I dunno if it has something to do with me having it powered over USB, or if the device is just defective |
| 23:19:26 | _bilgus | tm512 how good of a supply are you using? |
| 23:20:41 | _bilgus | there was some hiss at really high levels but I can say I had pretty good filtering on the power |
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| 23:31:22 | tm512 | it's just plugged into a wall adapter that came with my old Nexus 7 |
| 23:31:31 | tm512 | which is plugged into a cheap power strip |
| 23:31:31 | speachy | tm512: FWIW I have four of those NOS fuze+ units still in their shipping packaging. I guess I should unpack and see how many work. |
| 23:31:56 | speachy | those supplies aren't that well filtered IME. |
| 23:32:15 | speachy | (and the DAPs definitely aren't, heh) |
| 23:32:31 | _bilgus | th device has issues i've seen bad power mess with touch stuff |
| 23:32:49 | tm512 | so it's possible that the audio will be cleaner if it's running off of battery? |
| 23:32:57 | speachy | it's very likely, yes. |
| 23:33:18 | _bilgus | like why the bad battery leaky regulator? |
| 23:33:23 | speachy | that's not to say it will be _great_ |
| 23:34:11 | _bilgus | Ive found it to be on par with my clip+ and clip zip at very high volumes some clicking and hiss as the processor works |
| 23:34:20 | speachy | the fuze+ was a mass-market device, after all. they didn't expect folks to use 'em with headphones that were several times the price of the player... |
| 23:34:43 | _bilgus | like faint beep boop tones |
| 23:35:37 | tm512 | speachy: ironically I can barely hear the noise with my Shure SRH840 which cost me $150, just because of their higher impedance I guess |
| 23:35:40 | speachy | yeah, I reimber my clip+ audibly making noise as the display refreshed due to scrolling text. :) |
| 23:35:47 | tm512 | person on this discord just responded with "Welcome to IEM life, you'll find out if your source/chain has noise" |
| 23:36:50 | speachy | (like bilgus most of my DAP use is in the car, and that's a particularly dirty source of power...) |
| 23:37:02 | tm512 | also these IEMs were half the cost of the Fuze+, though they certainly aren't the type of equipment Sandisk likely had in mind |
| 23:38:29 | tm512 | so yeah I guess it's an open question whether A) the noise will be quieter running off of battery and B) whether it'll actually bother me listening to music like while on walks or at work where there's already background noise |
| 23:38:41 | speachy | anyhoo. If I have time during work tomorrow I'll dig out the stash of fuze+ units in my rockboxbox and see how many work. |
| 23:39:48 | tm512 | starting to strongly consider an iPod Classic at this point, but I guess I might as well try to see if this seller will send me a replacement unit that actually works. I feel like I might end up being a slightly annoying customer to deal with |
| 23:39:54 | speachy | and if you can't work something out with your seller, it might be an alternative) |
| 23:42:00 | tm512 | speachy: are you saying you'd be willing to sell one of them off if any of them work? |
| 23:42:36 | speachy | that's one of the reasons why I bought them |
| 23:43:06 | tm512 | though tbh I'm already kinda getting flustered by the touch pad just trying to mess around with this thing. doesn't help that the OF chugs so hard just doing basic navigation |
| 23:43:14 | speachy | (the other being so that the active developers would have access to a stash) |
| 23:43:20 | tm512 | but like even with the gesture support the lagginess makes it feel so imprecise |
| 23:43:27 | speachy | yeah the OF is ... really bad. |
| 23:44:54 | tm512 | the whole look and feel of the OF is really a throwback though. I dunno what UI designers in the late 00s were smoking |
| 23:45:16 | _bilgus | I think if all I had was the OF i'd have trashed it |
| 23:46:36 | speachy | it's only a "throwback" when viewed against modern sensibilities |
| 23:47:09 | _bilgus | in rb we have a way to adust the size and sensitivity of touch target areas thats what pretty much fixed it for me I never did use gestures though |
| 23:48:42 | _bilgus | do we have that web untangle game in the sgt puzzles? |
| 23:48:49 | speachy | it's roughly equivalent with other UIs of its era. Which are muhc better than the previous generation of DAPs. which are in turn _vastly_ better than the first couple of generations.... |
| 23:49:07 | speachy | rockbox's been through them all. :D |
| 23:50:29 | _bilgus | similar to this? https://cdn.mobygames.com/40cc109e-bf68-11ed-9521-02420a000152.webp |
| 23:51:27 | _bilgus | anyway what about a math game where you have number 0-9 and you weave the web for the results like 1/2 or 7/11 etc |
| 23:51:45 | speachy | well, there is an 'untangle' game in the collection |
| 23:52:43 | tm512 | speachy: yeah, there's definitely an element of hindsight with the UI design, and I used to think this sorta thing looked nice in the late 00s |
| 23:53:17 | _bilgus | you would weave 0.6363 and it would score you on speed or color the right number after a timeout |
| 23:53:27 | tm512 | I think it's aged pretty poorly though, which isn't an inherent thing in old UIs. like I think classic Mac OS still looks nice, like the Platinum interface |
| 23:54:32 | tm512 | BeOS looks nice too |
| 23:54:33 | _bilgus | meh I prefer functionality and old UIs had that not those '00 ones |
| 23:55:25 | speachy | the OG ipod UIs were the best factory-supplied DAP interfaces, hands-down. Granted it helped that you needed itunes do to anything advanced. |
| 23:55:30 | _bilgus | but I do struggle to see any other interface working for RB |
| 23:56:13 | _bilgus | I guess once its only ipods we could get away from menus |
| 23:57:19 | tm512 | regarding rockbox, one reason I'd kinda like to stick with the Fuze+ is one of the themes, though I guess it's a port of an iPod Classic theme, so I'd be set either way |
| 23:57:28 | tm512 | it's this one: https://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2163&target=sansafuzeplus |
| 23:57:58 | * | tm512 is a fan of flat UI design |
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