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| 00:33:19 | _bilgus_ | so first run I notice it has some issues with cpu boost |
| 00:33:39 | _bilgus_ | try the show solution and press a button |
| 00:33:57 | _bilgus_ | stars looking like a roto zoomer |
| 00:34:27 | _bilgus_ | starts* |
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| 01:04:53 | _bilgus_ | no I take that back i just starts looking like that all on its own |
| 01:06:21 | _bilgus_ | it seems to work just fine little nausea inducing if you do the solver but otherwise no crashes, only does usb plug if its in the menu but thats not too bad |
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| 09:36:41 | speachy | _bilgus_: it's even older than that; the original ticket was opened in 2006 |
| 09:36:54 | speachy | sorry, 2008. :D |
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| 10:01:28 | rb-bluebot | FS #8647: Amaze - 3D maze game plugin by Franklin Wei |
| 10:01:54 | _bilgus_ | well, lets fix that |
| 10:02:37 | speachy | hopefully this will stay green. :D |
| 10:02:47 | _bilgus_ | lets get this thing its drivers license!! |
| 10:02:49 | speachy | I didnt' add a full set of target screenshots |
| 10:03:28 | _bilgus_ | I think theres enough reprensentation in there they should get the gist |
| 10:03:57 | speachy | yay, first "major" patch out of the backlog |
| 10:04:19 | _bilgus_ | hosted is the only thing I didn't check well that and checkwps |
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| 10:11:06 | _bilgus_ | kids got a new laptop maybe I'll get the w540 thinkpad back. have a capable system again :) |
| 10:16:55 | _bilgus_ | I was hoping builtin migt pop in but he's probably busy like the rest of us |
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| 10:17:49 | _bilgus_ | aww too big for the clip |
| 10:18:20 | _bilgus_ | I can't imagine that it would run very well on there even if it did fit |
| 10:18:53 | speachy | _bilgus_: here's another one: g#134 |
| 10:18:56 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #134 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/134 : New plugin: Picross by Nathan Korth |
| 10:19:09 | _bilgus_ | In that case maybe they didn't push it because at the time they had few targets capable of running it |
| 10:19:11 | speachy | it's written in lua |
| 10:19:33 | _bilgus_ | oh that should be fun lua sucks to debug lol |
| 10:19:56 | speachy | huh, are the clip and m200 the only 2MB targets left? |
| 10:20:42 | _bilgus_ | multiple returns, self modifying code, and everyone rolls their own batteries |
| 10:21:14 | _bilgus_ | I'm just going to disable for <= 2mb I think |
| 10:21:25 | _bilgus_ | but yeah that sounds right |
| 10:21:30 | speachy | yeah, that's sane. oddly the c200v2 (also 2mb) succeeded |
| 10:21:53 | speachy | oh, fix the manual for <=2mb too. |
| 10:22:04 | _bilgus_ | the last time I questioned how many were actually left in the wild (the clip has no sd) |
| 10:22:20 | _bilgus_ | oh if its that close I might be able |
| 10:22:29 | _bilgus_ | ah manual thanks |
| 10:22:50 | speachy | I wonder if it might be time to stick a fork in 2MB targets. |
| 10:23:03 | _bilgus_ | I think so |
| 10:23:19 | speachy | pre- or post-4.0? |
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| 10:24:11 | _bilgus_ | probably post thats what we decided last time I think we just didn't think it was going to be 3-5 years |
| 10:24:35 | speachy | okey |
| 10:28:26 | speachy | though this one I'm interested in: g#1005 (plus the g#3026 improvements) |
| 10:28:32 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #1005 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/1005 : added xrick game by Sebastian Leonhardt |
| 10:28:32 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #3026 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3026 : Bring xrick up to date by Moshe Piekarski |
| 10:30:41 | _bilgus_ | I'm pretty sure I've tested that and it still had issues last time |
| 10:31:58 | speachy | fs#9260 looks gnarly. and could be responsible for some subtle issues we're still dealing with. |
| 10:32:00 | rb-bluebot | https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9260 r18234 - core + plugins shouldnt be calling opendir() directly... (bugs, new) |
| 10:32:09 | _bilgus_ | was that longer than 4 years ago? (probably) |
| 10:32:26 | speachy | (opened in 2008) |
| 10:32:27 | _bilgus_ | ^I saw that |
| 10:33:03 | speachy | the tl;dr: deleting (or adding) a file in a directory that something else is working with is a one way ticket to pain. |
| 10:34:10 | speachy | in our infinite free time I'd also like to see a rebuild of all bootloaders to pick up the GPT support I added |
| 10:35:02 | speachy | for devices that boot from (or multiboot from) SD cards, it'll ease the pain of folks reformatting SDXC without repartitioning them first. |
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| 10:36:32 | _bilgus_ | I think we should do that and cull anything we can't find a device to test |
| 10:37:24 | _bilgus_ | use that 4.0 releae to get the attention and notify everyone that we are decreasing our device coverage next |
| 10:38:29 | _bilgus_ | then we can put the retired (old bootloaders) in a folder and leave them out of the builds |
| 10:39:15 | _bilgus_ | re the opendir thing ignorance is bliss I guess |
| 10:40:16 | _bilgus_ | I still get this 1:50 usb panic its so random I just need to do a test rig I think and plug unplug 500 x |
| 10:41:05 | _bilgus_ | I have a clip+ I modified with a current shunt probably be my patient |
| 10:41:41 | speachy | I still need to finish unbreaking the x3's USB stuff. it broke in the usb control infra rewrite, and my last working-well-enough fix set now insta-panics. |
| 10:42:12 | _bilgus_ | it was years with no stable USB in the clip's |
| 10:43:46 | _bilgus_ | I'm not going to be able to finish that clip fix before I have to leave, I'll try a bit more to get it to fit and if not remove it for all the 2mb targets to save future grief |
| 10:44:01 | _bilgus_ | tonight. |
| 10:44:38 | speachy | it fails on 2/3 of the 2MB targets. honestly I don't think it's worth the effort. |
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| 10:53:03 | _bilgus_ | I think I can remove the large tiles and logic for them nd it'll fit |
| 10:53:17 | _bilgus_ | if not I'll nuke it |
| 10:54:30 | _bilgus_ | I need to get an mRobe500 or something else that chipset |
| 10:54:53 | _bilgus_ | the forum remote debug connection is too slow to do anything meaningful to get it to boot |
| 10:58:57 | speachy | probably worth putting together a new list of who-has-what |
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| 13:16:10 | speachy | uh... |
| 13:16:49 | speachy | ok, these are all sim builds on my recently-upgraded builder. GCC14. |
| 13:35:44 | speachy | ok, error fixed, now for the warnings and I'll commit. |
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| 18:56:55 | _bilgus_ | eh its something like 4k too big |
| 18:57:18 | _bilgus_ | I don't think it'll be the same game if I manage to cut 4k |
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| 19:06:41 | speachy | yeah, I agree. |
| 19:08:02 | speachy | I'm not sure what to do about these gcc14 warnings. presumably they'll get fixed eventually in the compiler. I guess in the short term I can add a #pragma to ignore the warnings. |
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| 19:17:41 | AlHaz | Hi there. You may remember me from . . . . a long time ago. |
| 19:18:48 | AlHaz | i think i may have been around as ej0rge at the time. |
| 19:19:07 | AlHaz | Someone out there still has my sansa c200 v2, not that i really need more mp3 players |
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| 19:20:04 | AlHaz | Recently started messing around with my h100 and h300 series players again. Because I'd like to use them for field recording. I seem to have bricked one of my h300 |
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| 19:21:04 | AlHaz | No activity after bootloader install. To be honest, I was shorting the usb 5v and gnd at the time to get the thing to boot up at all. |
| 19:21:36 | AlHaz | I have another that works fine, just, mildly curious, did anyone ever work out a BDM method of reloading the bootloader on those or is it just chip jewelry now? |
| 19:21:59 | speachy | welcome back. there are likely others here more knowledeable than I with respect to the Hxxx models. Mine was stolen in 2009. :D |
| 19:22:47 | speachy | you know for sure a bootloader install bricked it, and not, say, old age of batteries/capacitors/etc? |
| 19:23:39 | AlHaz | speachy: It was hooked up to a good cameron-sino battery at the time, but had the issue where it always believed itself to be connected to a USB host unless you shorted the +5 and gnd lines on the usb port |
| 19:23:50 | AlHaz | a good battery *and a gigabeat F power supply i should say |
| 19:24:21 | AlHaz | It did the firmware update stuff from the OF, blinked out, never to return |
| 19:24:50 | AlHaz | I used to be a collector. I have a vast menagerie of mp3 players i never use anymore. |
| 19:25:13 | AlHaz | Toward the end my favorite was the sansa fuze but those things are so damn fragile. |
| 19:25:19 | AlHaz | i don't think i have a working one anymore |
| 19:25:50 | speachy | that's funny; bilgus and I were just pondering how to test most of the targets given their largely unobtanium nature today. |
| 19:26:06 | AlHaz | heh - like M:Robe 100? |
| 19:26:10 | AlHaz | got one |
| 19:26:15 | AlHaz | I think i have the other m:robe as well |
| 19:26:29 | AlHaz | iaudio x3 and x5 too somewhere |
| 19:26:29 | speachy | I have something like four or five dead fuze/fuzev2s, thanks to that ribbon cable made of unicorn farts |
| 19:26:54 | speachy | bilgus mentioned the mrobe500 specifically, but the iaudios I think are also needed. |
| 19:26:57 | AlHaz | yeah that and the bottom of the lcd cracking. I bought large lots of broken fuzes for a while and pieced together probably half a dozen working ones |
| 19:27:12 | AlHaz | I noticed some bugs i had been watching got closed recently −− got the email |
| 19:27:22 | AlHaz | not 100% sure where my mr500 is |
| 19:27:29 | speachy | the fuzev2 was probably my favorite device, thanks to the form factor and a real line out |
| 19:27:49 | AlHaz | I don't know that i ever had a v2 |
| 19:27:50 | speachy | but they don't hold up too well to abuse. |
| 19:28:07 | AlHaz | I geeked out about the optical output of the h100 series |
| 19:28:41 | AlHaz | i have a high-end dac that will run on a usb power bank, had dreams of making a sort of bandolier carrier for an h120, the y2 dac, and a headphone amp |
| 19:29:02 | speachy | I'd be curious how well the h1xx/3xx works with modern CF->SD and SATA adapters. ie additional dat points to the endless ipod snowflakes |
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| 19:30:20 | speachy | bbiab |
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| 19:31:50 | AlHaz | One of my H320 had an mSATA to CE adapter with a CE to 44 pin cable, and it only sort of worked. Lots of lockups. |
| 19:32:42 | AlHaz | ordered an m.2 to CE ssd solution for ipods −− https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801254729560.html |
| 19:33:27 | AlHaz | The one H300 wouldn't read it, so i wondered if the more advanced bootloader in the h100 could, but the one h100 i can find has issues with the usb/ata board. So i bought an h140 on ebay that just got here and seems to work. |
| 19:37:10 | AlHaz | 4-5 months ago i visited a friend in Uintah county - where the "skinwalker ranch" hoax show is filmed - we went out into the oil fields at night in search of dark skies, and the soundscape is super eery. Hard to explain. rhythmic thumping from several directions at different but regular rates, explosive sounds from several directions at different somewhat irregular rates |
| 19:37:43 | AlHaz | and i realized i have an old jvc hm-200e binaural recording headset −− big junky headphones with a mic on each side |
| 19:38:13 | AlHaz | I have mobile recording rigs but they are super clunky. Be nicer to just use one of these early iRiver players |
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| 19:40:29 | AlHaz | (SWR is horseshit. One family ran that ranch for 70 years and reported nothing out of the ordinary. Then some city folk lived there for 18 months, were afraid of every sound they heard and had no idea what predation looks like, then a con man who happened to be an old school chum of a senator bought it and got millions of taxpayer dollars to do bullshit "research" and he was the guy who called it "skinwalker ranch") |
| 19:49:11 | AlHaz | ("skinwalkers" are basically witches in the navajo religion. The uto-aztecan cultures spanned from montana to mexico so the Navajo absolutely had Ute neighbors they may not have gotten along with, but the Navajo have a religious conviction to live near their four holy mountains, which are like a week's horseback ride from Uintah county, so no, there are no Navajo witches milling around SWR) |
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| 20:15:43 | speachy | AlHaz: I've personally done a lot of work to improve the ATA driver for SSDs (be they real CF, the CF->SD junk, or mSATA) |
| 20:16:28 | speachy | I think some of the larger CF cards out tehre are actually SD/MMC internally with a bridge. |
| 20:18:10 | speachy | but with the current codebase, mSATA is expected to be generally trouble-free. |
| 20:18:32 | speachy | (assuming the iriver uses the generic ata driver anyway..) |
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| 20:50:49 | _bilgus_ | I hope lowmem and the amount I have set in sources match |
| 20:50:57 | _bilgus_ | in regards to the manual |
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| 21:12:57 | _bilgus_ | well at least it was green for almost a day :p |
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| 21:54:43 | AlHaz | ah, speachy left, but, generally my thinking was that since i can boot rockbox from rom on the h100 series, it might have a better shot at dealing with modern solid state storage than the h300 series |
| 21:55:30 | AlHaz | I was dismayed to see that someone put in the work to bring the h300 bootloader up to par with the h100 bootloader, a few people said it worked, then they disappeared and a majority of reports now are that it Does Not Work |
| 21:56:10 | AlHaz | my working h320 has a 64gb CF card in it now. |
| 21:56:30 | AlHaz | my experience with cf-to-sd adapters has been largely negative |
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| 23:13:16 | _bilgus_ | AlHaz, I believe taht was braewoods tat did the h300 work maybe a compiler upgrade broke it? |
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