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#rockbox log for 2024-05-30

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10:57:03_bilgususer890104, I have a patch that should fix your reported issue was it iPod6G you needed a build for or can you compile your own? g#5748
10:57:06rb-bluebotGerrit review #5748 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/5748 : [BugFix] Resume on headphone plug causes screen glitches by William Wilgus
10:59:57_bilgusslightly annoyed that it took me longer to figure out the issue with the 6G simulator turns out it didn't have the button regions mapped
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11:04:14rb-bluebot[BugFix] add button maps for iPod6GSim by William Wilgus
11:07:31speachyupdated the bug tracker to latest bleeding edge code, hopefully it'll fix some of the glitches.
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11:17:27_bilgususer890104, https://www.mediafire.com/file/olr0uye3y8qrlcx/iPod6G_rockbox-a60e28c444-240530.zip/file
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11:22:35_bilgusspeachy, yeah the error messages are gone and posts work the first time
11:22:52_bilguswhats bleeding edge circa 2013?
11:23:37speachyabout a year ago I updated it to the latest snapshot at the time.
11:23:45speachyhad to do it again due to ongoing PHP joy
11:24:13speachyI'm in theprocess of retiring my use of flyspray for my personal stuff. part of a larger round of decomissioning.
11:24:58speachyI wonder if I can finally tie it into the exernal oauth2 stuff now?
11:27:36_bilgusthe sim has a USB test connection activated by the letter 'U' I coopted it to do the headphone insert remove stuff as I didn't see that in the code think its worthwhile to add?
11:28:06speachyyeah, that seems sane. add one for LO detection too?
11:29:23_bilgusletter 'H' and 'L'?
11:33:41_bilgush is taken for hold so I guess p and l
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12:15:28rb-bluebot[Feature] Simulator add headphone and lineout toggling by William Wilgus
12:17:06_bilgusok that should make testing that stuff a bit easier next time
12:17:37_bilgusI didn't test lineout one but as its copypasta it should be fine
12:20:08_bilgustoo bad I got the first press showing insertion instead of removal
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14:15:30Demosthenexpoking around, looking to get a new mp3 player to put rockbox on. my google-fu is failing me, is there a list of recommended currently available hardware to buy?
14:15:44Demosthenexbeen happy with rockbox on my sansa fuse+, but its falling apart
14:17:30speachyprobably the only devices still in active production are the various eros q/k clones, such as the surfans f20 and hifiwalker h2.
14:18:17speachybeyond that old ipods remain eternally available. all of those are larger form factors than the fuze+.
14:18:41speachyfuze+ can usually be found (new old stock or factory refurbished)
14:19:34Demosthenexif i can find an armband, i don't really care about the form factor too much, just not as big as another cellphone
14:19:47Demosthenexwhat'd be a preferred ipod model?
14:19:55Demosthenexdo those take microsd?
14:23:16speachythe general concensus is that the later 5th gen or later 6th gen are the ones to get. There are adapters to convert the hard drive interfaces to something flash-based. the msata stuff is preferable to SD.
14:24:45Demosthenexipod 6th, not nano
14:26:04speachynot nano, correct.
14:26:32speachy1st and 2nd gen nanos work great but since they're flash based (and over a decade old) it's just a matter of time before they die.
14:27:05Demosthenexwow, the 6 had a mini hdd?
14:27:29speachythe 4th gen and newer of the "classic" form factor (or the 2nd-gen mini) has the better processor that cn handle more demanding codecs.
14:27:57Demosthenexyeah, i have ogg's and flac i want to hear
14:29:15speachythe minis use a microdrive so you can drop in a standard compactflash card.. or use the CF->SD adapters which will be cheaper but don't work as wel.
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14:31:13Demosthenexsince you know these well, if i don't want to open it and make changes, and only need 16-32G, any ideas?
14:32:05speachyif you want something new, the H2 or F20 mentioned above. They take standard SD cards.
14:32:10Demosthenexi don't mind buying used, i'm talented at repairs and fixing, but i wasn't looking for a modding project
14:32:46Demosthenexapple's got good hw quality normally, so ipod is interesting ;]
14:33:21speachymy personal favorite is the xduoo x3; I think it's the perfect form factor to be operated by feel. not easy to find any more though.
14:33:45sporkipod is interesting because they made a gazillion and it can be found used
14:34:05Demosthenexi just want my mp3 player on an armband while i'm cycling, i don't want to use my phone
14:35:04speachyworth considering that you can easily buy pre-modded ipods.
14:35:28Demosthenexoh yeah, well... depends. i'm sure i could on ebay, but EU and VAT are problematic
14:35:39Demosthenexi was checking marktplaats.nl and saw a few ipods
14:36:16sporki cycle with a clip+, praying it will live forever
14:37:06Demosthenexyeah, my armband for my sansa is slowly greying opaque ;]
14:37:21Demosthenexfrankly, this hifi walker looks about the right size and price
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14:39:04sporkh2/f20 have a nice amount of buttons
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14:39:53Demosthenexyeah, i only look at the thing when i'm tinkering with playlists
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14:47:41speachywith voice prompts you have to look at it even less. :D
14:49:17Demosthenexi haven't tried those. always wished i could say "skip" without ties to bigtech
14:49:54speachywell, taht's not technically feasible on any of our hardware, even those with recording support. :D
14:52:50Demosthenexdang, i can't find an eu source of the hifi
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14:55:02Demosthenexhttps://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/mp3-spelers-apple-ipod/m2112484168-ipod-video-5-5-gen-ssd-upgrade-128gb
14:55:07Demosthenexooo, modded and rockbox loaded
14:57:40*speachy idly wonders about those sellers' GPL compliance.
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15:03:41sporkit is a dutch ebay-type site, not a commercial thing
15:04:13speachyit still counts; binary distribution must be accompanied by (at minumum) a copy of the license and a source offer.
15:04:40sporkyes, and unlikely to happen
15:12:45speachywell, there is an embedded copy of the license, but... hmm, no way to (easily) view that from within rockbox, IIRC..
15:13:46spork_bilgus can make a gpl viewing plugin
15:14:32speachythere's a textviewer plugin already, but you have to first disable hiding the .rockbox directory to find the file to view.
15:15:51speachywould make sense to add an item in the system menu that launches the text viewer on those files.
15:16:10sporksounds feasible
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15:18:32sporkmight be too late for this seller though
15:19:04speachyoh yeah, there's no realistic way to enforce any of this as we don't have any sort of registered trademark.
15:19:53speachywould also be worth writing up some sort of "using the rockbox name" policy if one doesn't already exist.
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15:21:55sporkrockbox is a good selling point for old players
15:22:14speachyprobably would amount to something like "link to our web site, specify which version is installed, lnk to the license ad source code, and make it clear that we are unaffiliated with the seller."
15:27:18speachyfs#13431
15:27:19rb-bluebothttps://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/13431 Add a link in the menus to our license text (feature requests, new)
15:39:01Demosthenexto be fair, it isn't advertised as a rockbox player, just lists that it was installed.
15:41:22speachy"this is how you comply with our license if you are loading rockbox onto something you're selling or otherwise passing on.."
15:42:31speachynot exactly a high priority in the grand scheme of things, but rockbox isn't freeware.
15:43:05Demosthenexi agree. it needs respect ;]
15:45:35speachyfor all the insane sw choices FiiO made with their m3k player, they included a printed copy of the GPLv2 in the box, and showed it in their menus. I was shocked.
15:46:09speachy(they didn't use anything that wasn't on a typical embedded linux system)
15:47:35Demosthenexnice
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19:49:32rb-bluebotBuild Server message: New build round started. Revision 09e01c89a7, 304 builds, 9 clients.
19:49:32rb-bluebotFS #13430: Updated German translation (Wilfried Winkler) by Solomon Peachy
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19:56:31_bilgusthere are some new coverity snapshots up so far mRobe500 still working on a iPod6G snap
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21:02:29rb-bluebotupdatelang: '~' is not a legal character in dest or voice strings by Solomon Peachy
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21:22:10rb-bluebotFS #13431: Provide a way to view the rockbox license in the menus by Solomon Peachy
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21:44:25othello8I recently acquired an ipod mini and installed rockbox to it and noticed some of the features seem different on it than my ipod 4th gen:
21:44:25othello8- when it boots up it goes straight to database instead of to the main menu
21:44:25othello8- there are no backlight brightness controls (but there are fade in/out time controls instead)
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21:44:25othello8these were both running rockbox at the same git commit. I'm curious why this is the case
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