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#rockbox log for 2024-07-26

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00:58:17rb-bluebotplugin argparse update to add userdata to callback by William Wilgus
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09:52:35speachybig patch dump for x1000 targets and newer erosq series. hopefully they'll follow up on the forum
09:52:51speachyor rather, in gerrit.
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10:28:24sporksome interesting stuff in there
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10:36:04speachy_bilgus_: I think the volumename cache thing broke hosted builds too.
10:42:40speachyyeah, tha's the issue
10:49:08_bilgus_I wondered if it would after the sims I just need to find a place to init it likiely
10:49:26speachyJust finishing testing it out, then I'll commit
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10:54:20rb-bluebotFix multidrive/multivolume hosted builds. by Solomon Peachy
10:54:55speachyI pulled the change from init_sim_tasks() to the application main()
10:55:05speachy...just before the call to init_sim_tasks
10:55:38_bilgus_yeah I was going to say I was just going to move them I actually thought why IDK that filesystem_init covered it
10:56:30_bilgus_thanks, sorry for the mess
10:57:00speachyturns out that filesystem_init() is only for native builds
10:58:35_bilgus_yeah clearly :)
10:59:12speachythat's rockbox, drunkenly stumbling towards perfection
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11:05:06_bilgus_suppose that depends on who sets the criterion ;)
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11:06:03_bilgus_only 2 hosted targets?
11:07:30speachyhmm?
11:07:57speachyscroll right
11:08:38speachyit has to be a multidrive hosted target
11:08:53speachy(And/or simulator)
11:09:39speachythose compile size variances are ... wtf though, given that it's the same code path 4/5 of those targets.
11:10:50_bilgus_oh I see the two xduoos they just had v small codesize changes think the ypr0 just wants non reproducible builds :p
11:11:57speachydifferent builders with different numbers of cores and non-deterministic scheduling causing different function/linking ordering etc
11:13:00_bilgus_I'm working on a plugin for our viewers to allow to prompt the user for a file to open rather than saying for instance 'Open a lua file' it can just drop into a browser set to show lua files
11:13:46speachyplugins for the plugins for the plugins all the way down
11:14:06speachyspeaking of plugins, if you do a win64 sim build there's a large pile of warnings in the lua code
11:14:13_bilgus_yes I was quite excited when I got plugins calling plugins
11:15:47_bilgus_Yeah I probably will never run windows again
11:16:30_bilgus_I can do the builds from linux I assume
11:16:39speachyI have a couple of creaky VMs that I use for printer driver work and the occasional propretiary updater
11:17:33speachyfor the few times that WINE isn't good enough
11:18:27_bilgus_oh you know what I have a laptop from one of the kids in the closet I'll look at it when I'm feeling bored :)
11:18:57_bilgus_Disclaimer, if
11:20:46_bilgus_IDK a little disillusioned with lua I did a bunch of work in it hoping an easier language would get more contributors but I don't think I've seen but one person in 4 years
11:20:59_bilgus_maybe 2
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11:26:39speachyunless it's javascript or python, that wasn't ever going to happen. :(
11:27:00speachy"what do you mean I can't just import 150 modules?"
11:29:05_bilgus_NGL it does come in handy for fast little experiments
11:29:52_bilgus_I really did hope to get it in core but its just too damn dynamic and memory hungry to want it any where near
11:30:29_bilgus_thts my hope for python it would be very nice to have that running in core
11:30:30speachyI think there's a damn good argument for making it drive the entire core UI
11:30:36_bilgus_yep
11:31:01speachybut it's still not going to JustWork(tm) with off-the-shelf 3rd party code
11:31:08speachythat's especially true of micropython
11:31:29_bilgus_nope but thats rb anyway we do our own thing here
11:32:04speachybecause we don't have the resources to do anything else. :D
11:32:22_bilgus_hey its more glamorous if you leave that part out :)
11:33:33speachythat "ode to rockbox" video really did summarize our fundamental developer problem nicely
11:39:09speachyoh wrt that win64sim thing, I don't care about _running_ it per se, just the warnings spewed during the build.
11:39:29speachy(it's cross-compiled, no windows system needed)
11:41:22_bilgus_good I can fix that
11:46:35speachytwo other things generate errors in those builds; one I'm pretty sure is harmless, but tlsf is another matter.
11:49:11_bilgus_I think I went looking for upstreams of TLSF and came to the realization ours is better than anything 'inspired' by the original
11:50:01_bilgus_I say inspired because I see other implementations that are using code from the original without attribution
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12:09:58speachyyeah. :/
12:26:40speachyIt's sobering to realize that we're the high quality implementation of a lot of stuff now
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15:15:09rb-bluebotRemove mp3info function & remove list_do_action from plugin_api by Christian Soffke
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15:50:52speachychris_s: does rounding playing time to the closest second _really_ make that much of a difference? (I guess KB might make a little more, but...)
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16:10:10chris_sspeachy: depends on the number of tracks of course.
16:10:19chris_sTo have the runtime be off by a whole minute for a 3-4hr
16:10:19chris_splaylist irks me though. And even for a 1hr album, I'd like
16:10:19chris_sthe information presented by Track Info and Playing Time
16:10:21chris_sideally to match up, and not differ by a few seconds. I haven't
16:10:23chris_sfound it to be any slower now, if that's your concern?
16:10:31chris_soops sorry, was supposed to be one message
16:11:18speachyI guess I look at in terms of the error as a percentage of the totals
16:11:31speachybut I get little thinkgs like that irritating you
16:12:33chris_sactually retrieving the metadata is the slowest and most battery-hungry aspect by far. I kind of want to cache that data for unchanged playlists
16:15:51chris_syou're right though, it's probably more a matter of principle, and it seemed easily fixed
16:19:19chris_sdoes anyone have an argument against leaving the theme enabled for themed plugins, only, instead of disabling and re-enabling it (which leads to additional flashing and seems unnecessary)
16:19:50speachyin what context?
16:20:33chris_srunning the Properties plugin from the database or file browser, for example. You're disabling the theme only to re-enable it right away
16:26:59chris_sI was going to naively check against the Properties name, for now when launching a plugin, and skip over disabling the theme in that instance . Unless there's a technical reason the theme would need to be disabled before a plugin is launched, but I haven't encountered anything so far
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16:43:01speachydoes seem sensible.
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