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#rockbox log for 2024-08-12

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08:27:46speachybrae90820: the old ipods can play flac in realtime no problem, but sample rate conversion is kinda expensive, especially if you hav eother processing stuff turned on (eg eq, haas surround, etc).
08:28:34speachyand if you're not playing the same file on both OSes, then you're not actually comparing the relative performance of each.
08:41:28buZzits not even the same device
08:41:56buZzas in, parts got replaced
08:42:42buZzotoh, flac and even 'amac' (i assume thats some proprietary flacclone?) should not be more than 150kb/s to play (which is audioCD datarate)
08:42:48buZzany hdd should read that just fine
08:43:09buZz150KB/s , sorry
08:43:14buZzKiB/s even, i guess
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10:08:31speachyit's not the raw compressed bitrate (up to a point); it's the amount of required processing.
10:09:56speachybtw flac typically 50% of the uncompressed bitrate. ie for CD quality audio, flacs are usually 705.6kb/s.
10:11:50speachy(raw CD quality audio is 1.4Mbps)
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10:55:11chamlisanybody have any experience/advice for replacing the battery in an m3k?
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12:50:32DVDCreepTotal new guy to this, but I want to fart around and try customizing a build for my iPod 5th. No specific reason, just for fun. I have the cross compiler set up  with WSL and I think I am ready to start poking around the source files. My question is, what, if anything can I delete from the source files that does not pertain to the ipod 5th gen
12:50:33DVDCreepspecifically. Sorry for the completely newbie  question, I am a new SAHP and have not messed with firmware stuff since the early 00s and motomgx on a Rokr EM30, so I thought this might be fun to do in my spare time. If anyone has a guide they can point me to or a search term that would narrow my searches down, I would highly appreciate it.
12:51:24speachyeverything is in the same source tree, files that aren't needed for any one target are not compiled.
12:51:53speachyso there's not really any purpose to deleting stuff other than perhaps making full text searches of the source code easier.
12:53:53speachyhttps://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DocsIndex <−−- the section under "developers" seems like a good place to start.
12:53:57DVDCreepAwesome! Thank you, I have not tried compiling yet so that was my concern.
12:54:41speachystuff under firmware is what interacts directly with the hardware. Stuff under apps/ is all of the user-visible stuff that uses the hardware APIs.
12:55:19speachyfirmare/target/<foo> holds the individual ports.
12:57:57speachyI will say it helps to have something specific you're trying to accomplish.
12:59:40DVDCreepThats a lot of help, thank you. One thing I was hoping to accomplish on my own would be to disable the WPS completely and us a SBS that already displays basic info, like the terminaltwo theme and take a stab at modifying the solitaire controls to mimic the ipod version of the game.
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14:23:54rb-bluebotBuild Server message: New build round started. Revision 9ff308a589, 337 builds, 9 clients.
14:23:54rb-bluebotUpdate multiple translations: by Solomon Peachy
14:29:38speachyso let's see how the next commit lands. :D
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14:35:50rb-bluebotstorage: 64-bit sector offsets by Solomon Peachy
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14:48:39rb-bluebotBuild Server message: Revision 15e5237469 result: 319 errors 49 warnings
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15:21:35rb-bluebotHopefully fix the remaining red from 15e52374 by Solomon Peachy
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15:29:19speachythis 64-bit sector support comes at a ~3KB penalty for HDD-based players. We can always disable it, where the penalty drops to ~300 bytes.
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16:11:53rb-bluebotsim: stub out volume_partition() for sim targets by Solomon Peachy
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16:47:39dconrad_phonespeachy: any action needed to transition to the 64bit sector offsets builds, or should it be seamless? should Just Work(tm)?
16:48:19speachyit's enabled by default for all targets that use ATA storage or with HAVE_SDUC.
16:49:02speachy(SDUC support is currently limited to "hey, this is an SDUC card!")
16:49:47speachyso tl;dr: it should JustWork(tm), with the caveat that >32bit still appears to be fundamentally untestable.
16:51:29speachys/that use ATA storage/with HAVE_LBA48/
16:52:24speachyIndividual partitions are still limited to 2TiB (on 512-byte sectors) due to FAT32.
16:53:01dconrad_phoneno formatting of drives needed or anything like that tho, thats good
16:53:08speachycorrect.
16:53:15dconrad_phonegood to know 👍
16:57:28speachyif I could come up with a way to plug a regular SATA drive into an ipod4g or 5g or mini, it would simplify this a bunch..
16:58:50dconrad_phonethat sounds pretty wacky, I can picture a giant case back that dwarfs the actual ipod part haha
16:59:09dconrad_phonerequires wall power to run
16:59:45speachy>2TB SSDs with a mSATA (or u.2 sata) interface are quite rare, apparently.
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17:30:00toxxI try to resurrect an old Sansa Clip+. There is no sound but a clicking noise at ca 1Hz.
17:30:39toxxwith Rockbox and Sansa firmware, so it is a hardware failure
17:31:31toxxmaybe someone knows that error. is it dead?
17:32:54toxxor just some connection failure like the headphone jack?
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19:07:44_bilgus_toxx, hard telling but sounds like a hardware failure probably bad solder connection somewhere
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22:37:18DVDCreepAm I looking in the right area to prevent the now playing screen from popping up when I select a song? Would like for it to stay in the song selection menu when a track is started. I am looking in Rockbox/apps/gui.c and this bit on line 559
22:37:19DVDCreep* display the wps on entering or restoring */
22:37:19DVDCreepstatic void gwps_enter_wps(bool theme_enabled)
22:37:20DBUGEnqueued KICK DVDCreep
22:37:20DVDCreep{
22:37:20DVDCreep    struct gui_wps *gwps;
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22:37:21DVDCreep    struct screen *display;
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22:37:21DVDCreep    if (theme_enabled)
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22:37:22DVDCreep        restore_theme();
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22:37:22DVDCreep    FOR_NB_SCREENS(i)
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22:37:23DVDCreep    {
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22:37:23DVDCreep        gwps = skin_get_gwps(WPS, i);
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22:37:24DVDCreep        display = gwps->display;
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22:37:24DVDCreep        display->scroll_stop();
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22:37:25DVDCreep        /* Update the values in the first (default) viewport - in case the user
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22:37:25DVDCreep           has modified the statusbar or colour settings */
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