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#rockbox log for 2024-08-14

00:00:47_bilgus_so our options are expand the bootdata or use _boot_volume i'm leaning towards the latter and just add a field for the Eros
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00:21:44_bilgus_dconrad I think what I just pushed should work for you
00:22:31_bilgus_still a bit questionable LMK if it doesn't work and we can make a v3 bootdata I guess
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07:22:04dconrad_bilgus_ thanks, I'll take a look and try it after work today!
07:24:42dconradI was under the assumption the bootdata would be set somewhere in the x1000/erosq-specific bootloader code
07:25:18dconradI guess that's all largely target-agnostic?
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10:11:15_bilgus_well most of the differences are just in the crt0.s file to give a place to put it in the bin and well write_bootdata got moved around a bit to multiboot.c which will probably now come to bite us later
10:12:11speachyyeah, that surprised me too, but eh. What's one more bit of refactoring? :D
10:12:51_bilgus_I think he did it beacuse that was the only user which is still the case so..
10:16:51speachya day or two ago I gave the MajorChanges some more love, only caught it up a week in the process.
10:17:13speachyreally need to write a dedicated page about these SSD conversions.
10:19:39speachyFrustrating to discover that the iflash adapters apparently don't handle >32bit addresses.
10:20:02_bilgus_thats kinda how I figured it was going to be
10:20:32speachykinda back at square one with the ability to test full LBA48.
10:21:17speachyand until >2TiB SDUC cards are non-unobtanium...
10:21:20speachyeh.
10:21:58_bilgus_the thing is that this isn't so important now but soon it will be
10:22:49speachywell, that presumes we figure out a way to successfully put together a hybrid partition table that will allow the DAP's OF/bootroms/whatever to do the right thing.
10:23:12speachy(on SD-based stuff that's probably not an issue)
10:23:24_bilgus_there will be a way just how ugly is it
10:24:44speachyit's disappointing that our longer-term target list is largely going to consist of "HDD-based ipods" or "semi-janky X1000-based stuff"
10:25:06_bilgus_figure we just need to get booted we control the horizontal and vertical after that
10:25:21speachy(and make sure the OF doesn't trash everything...)
10:25:33speachyso the next major impediment is exFAT.
10:26:08_bilgus_well better hardware and recently manufacture I still think daps might come back hopefully with some good hardware but likely not
10:26:23speachyThere is suitably licensed code we can appropriate but it's all intended for "Real Operating Systems" :D
10:27:39_bilgus_yeah a lot ofthe code I've looked at this last week is for real OSs as well and you just don't realize how many crutches till you try it on a microcontroller
10:27:58speachyyep
10:28:43_bilgus_thats also one of the best parts about RB IMO
10:28:45speachythen there's the matter of >16bit audio.
10:29:44_bilgus_thats not in decent shape?
10:29:55speachywell, we don't support it at all?
10:30:26_bilgus_oh you mean at the pcm layer
10:30:30speachyyeah
10:30:56_bilgus_that actually sounds more daunting than the hdd stuff
10:31:01speachyTHAT is going to be a major, major undertaking because it affects _everything_.
10:31:17_bilgus_lots more tentacles
10:31:19speachystorage was annoying but wholly self-contained.
10:31:43speachyI thik there are some old patches in gerrit that might help
10:31:46speachybut eh
10:32:24speachyand of course, bluetooth. which is a _huge_ game-changer.
10:32:35_bilgus_will that really benefit anyone though esp if it were thru bt?
10:33:07speachyI have yet to see any of these BT-enable DAPs implement AVRCP properly. (track info, proper playback status, etc)
10:34:18speachythere are BT audio codecs that handle high-fidelity audio (24bit/192KHz) but I don't know if we could actually get away with using 'em without our own licenses.
10:34:51_bilgus_IDK that I could hear the difference in 16 bit v 32 bit pcm, maybe but I doubt it except specifically picked samples
10:35:04_bilgus_maybe with the right heaphones?
10:35:25_bilgus_and you know slow malloc
10:35:35_bilgus_:)
10:36:41speachyit's all about dynamic range. with high-quality headphones (and careful source material selection) "normal" people can hear a difference. but otherwise it's mostly in the same territory as "our optical cables are made with oxygen depleted gold-plated connecors to minimize quality-harming jitter"
10:43:04buZzharvested at full moon by naked virgins
10:43:11buZzcrystal aligned
10:48:04speachybut when you're playing back DSD audio files through a bluetooth connection to your car while you're driving... no.
10:48:25speachy(bonus points for using the OG SBC bluetooth audio codec)
10:52:25buZzspeachy: but
10:52:37buZzyou'd need a goldplated BTUSB adapter to get best quality
10:52:40buZzobv
10:53:02speachywith solid copper conductors.
10:53:21buZzoxygenfree blue teeth
10:53:33_bilgus_I think the noise on the alternator will just pick up more effectively with all that
10:54:13buZzi'm always so amused that most EV still have a alternator
10:54:34buZzand completely seperate circuit for lights etc, not charged from 'the big battery'
10:54:36speachyoh yeah! I forgot about the device being plugged in to charge using a cheapo USB charger with zero ifltering.
10:55:08speachy(and the typical DAP's utter lack of power supply filtering)
10:55:11_bilgus_^seen some scary stuff in that space
10:55:37_bilgus_those cheapo usb chargers for cars that is
10:56:04_bilgus_saw one that used diodes lots of diodes
10:56:27_bilgus_a few that were just resistors and leds
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11:03:56rb-bluebotFS #13468: Updated Simplified Chinese translation for rbutil (王吉) by Solomon Peachy
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11:29:06_bilgus_dconrad bootdata.h ln67 needs a semicolon to close the union
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15:33:21bakedbacon420im still very much in the brainstorming phase, but ive got a few ideas for potential flash adapters. Primarily ive been trying to figure out if it would be possible to have an adapter that instead of JBOD, sees the first disk as main disk, and any subsequent micro sd cards as sd cards or slave drives? im solely looking to make it rockbox compatible so the main thing im wondering is: would
15:33:21bakedbacon420rockbox have any issue loading such an arrangement or is that a pipe dream?
15:33:50bakedbacon420faking removeable storage essentially
15:35:39bakedbacon420my reasoning was essentially just that rockbox already can read/use micro sd cards in devices that have removeable storage so just daisy chain it that way?
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15:50:09speachythe short answer is... you can theoretically plug multiple PATA drives into the ipod (as long as you have them doing the right thing with the M/S selection)
15:50:49speachybut rockbox's ATA driver isn't set up to deal with multiple drives properly.
15:52:36speachyin theory the ATA<->SD adapter could implement all of the stuff onboard (ie slot1 == PATA master, slot2 == PATA slave) but who knows if those FC1307 (?) chips everything is built on supports that.
15:54:49speachyremember the ipods don't actually support SD cards; they interface via PATA.
15:55:29speachy(I _think_ there's an SD controller in the PP50xx SoCs, but who knows if it's pinned out in an accessible place..)
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