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#rockbox log for 2024-08-17

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01:01:42_bilgusok this makes more sense then it'll be probably Sunday before I have time to look at this closely to figure out what the boot path is doing also dconrad what is the correct path in that instance atm it sounds like maybe its picking up something from the hosted build?
01:02:08_bilgusI'd assume <0>/.rockbox?
01:09:47_bilgushmm I guess where does the /erosq/ directory come in is it picking this up off your multiboot file or the directory on the disk itsself or somewhere else? can you try maybe renaming some stuff and see it it still says /erosq/.rockbox?
01:13:44_bilguslast thing I think this device only has the ond sd card or does it have two?
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10:22:07dconrad_phone_bilgus: I'll play with it some more today or tomorrow and let you know what I find. I presume it's getting the path from the redirect file, but prepending the drive name
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10:23:23dconrad_phonethat's the only place that specifies a .erosq folder, to my knowledge... so it would seem we're picking up and parsimg the redirect file but not using it
10:23:52dconrad_phone*parsing
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10:27:18dconrad_phonethe correct path for the firmware which is running when the redirect doesn't work should be the standard /<microSD0>/.rockbox, and the listed path would be correct if the redirect worked, if I understand correctly
10:27:50dconrad_phonebut maybe it's some weirdness with the drive being prepended? I could see that being the case
10:29:47dconrad_phoneand yeah correct, it only has one sd card
10:31:01dconrad_phoneluckily worst case I suppose I can do some dissecting since it did work at some point
10:31:41dconrad_phonewhich would be at the release linked in the wiki
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10:38:03dconrad_phoneout of left field, it did take me a long time to realize there is an easy way to get a dev environment on arm macs, using the docker stuff that we already had!
10:38:31dconrad_phoneso much faster than a vm on my old intel machine
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10:39:19dconrad_phoneI can build rb from scratch in under 2 minutes, pretty sure it took nearly 10 on my old machine
10:39:52dconrad_phonewould it be a good idea to recommend this in wiki?
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18:38:49_bilgusdconrad if the redirect file exists it'd use that so how do you boot to the same drive?
18:42:37_bilgusbasically atm if you say had booted /.rockbox and had a redirect file that would likely see that redirect and decide its running from there
18:44:57_bilgusfigure it doesn't matter to the code really its in ram where I'd see this causing some weird shit is in the case of starting up a bin from the file browser and its likely going to see that redirect
18:47:23_bilgusalso /, /<0>, /<Microsd0>, /<Drive0>, <d0> are all the same place
18:48:23_bilgusso one of the things about enabling multiboot is you now have a relative path mounted into the namespace.
18:48:51_bilgusWell this causes some issue once you start moving things around
18:50:15_bilgusso we now specify everything with an absolute path within rb everything is referenced to the relative path but we convert to an absolute path on anything like writing playlists and such
18:51:40_bilgusthat said a single drive makes it a bit overkill but it was meant for devices with 2 drives (the sansas)
18:51:55_bilgusbut multiple partitions would still benefit
18:53:22speachydconrad: wrt the build environment, running native is always better, but 10 minutes does seem a bit slow for a relatively modern system.
18:54:12_bilgusits a bit weirds but it makes it so we don't have to carry a bunch of the paths around they can be statically "/.rockbox"
18:55:15speachy_bilgus: I suspect what's happening is that the /erosq is some remnant from a path mangling operation?
18:57:07_bilgusonly if you deleted the redirect file
18:57:24_bilgusotherwise I'm pretty sure its working as intended
18:57:51_bilguslike we have no provision to say hey I have this redirect but I don't want to use it
18:57:58_bilgusyou gotta delete it
18:58:28_bilgusit was intended as a fail safe so its kinda all or nothin
18:59:21_bilguswe kinda skirted that by not using redirects on the internal drive but that device has one drive
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19:00:54_bilguscan we change that, yes do I want to no not really
19:01:49_bilgusbasically you would need to set a flag or save the path but that involves testing bootloaders and getting it all to fit again
19:04:02_bilgusso I guess another way would be to specify / or an empty redirect
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22:22:03__builtindoes anyone understand how the `make dep` rule works in the build system?
22:23:56__builtinand more specifically, how does it know what the include paths are set to?
22:35:02_bilgusdon't they get passed thru from tools/configure?
22:46:38__builtinah, I think it's through the OTHER_INC variable.
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