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#rockbox log for 2024-08-31

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08:53:52_bilgusOlsroFR, good morning
08:56:35_bilguscouple things are those actually libc functions? i'd really like them elsewhere otherwise, 2 code style should match surrounding functions/code (your brackets, and 3 could you try to cut down the ifdefs a but perhaps a dummy function for fill_selective_random_playlist_indexes() would help
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09:03:39_bilguslast for the smaller ram targets could we just make that segment buffer say 128 bytes long and just makes the runs much smaller? and lower quality and ditch all the ifdefs altogether?
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09:39:08OlsroFRhey _bilgus , thanks for the feedbacks, I will do it today
09:47:02_bilgusi'll try to get it review a last time, Amachronic is the user who commented, Aiden that is
09:47:32edhelas_I was wondering if there was some plans to allow themes to integrate the "native" elements, the gray rectangles
09:48:07edhelas_Would be nice to have progressbar and turning-off elements natively supported in some themes :)
09:55:36_bilgusedhelas_, I don't currently have any plans for the theme engine can't say for anyone else.
09:56:24_bilgusI'm also not sure what exactly you are proposing either
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10:34:10OlsroFR_bilgus All done, all changes are now pushed. 2 revisions pushed. The first one is to remove ifdefs and add a new condition to set a 128 bits buffer. The second one is just to adjust brackets to the code style
10:41:09_bilgusOlsroFR, thats looking very good I'm going to go ahead and push this
10:42:02OlsroFR:)
10:44:23rb-bluebotBuild Server message: New build round started. Revision c16dbbfd1f, 337 builds, 9 clients.
10:44:23rb-bluebotReworks to the shuffle system to improve performance and allow fast shuffling from a big library (but this work for all database views) by Paul Sauro
10:57:48rb-bluebotBuild Server message: Build round completed after 806 seconds.
10:57:49rb-bluebotBuild Server message: Revision c16dbbfd1f result: All green
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11:00:28_bilgusthat was a pretty big ram size hit though I'll probably try to pare that down a bit at some point
11:04:42OlsroFRBy looking at the binary size, it grew up to 1kb more compared to the one from the last daily build
11:05:25OlsroFRit's clearly the kb of the static allocation
11:11:55_bilgushttps://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi
11:12:23_bilgusif you click the binsize/ramsize link it'll show you that :)
11:12:50OlsroFRcool webpage
11:13:12_bilgusSpeachy updated it to its current form
11:18:03OlsroFRwow, just adding myself to the credits cost 176 bits of RAM on an iPod Mini
11:18:43OlsroFRwould be probably a very good optim to load this externally; that file is huge
11:23:51_bilgusI don't think credits should be in the build the only user is the credits plugin
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11:26:09_bilgusyeah I don't see a binsize change when I delete half the file
11:26:49_bilgusmaybe you are seeing the result of the credits plugin?
11:28:12OlsroFRhttps://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi no matter the view I selected (ram or binsize), the tool show an increase. 144 bits for the Mini 2G
11:29:29_bilgusthose bounce around a bit
11:29:58_bilguslater one will probably show a decrease of that much
11:30:45_bilgusPh actually no thats probably the other build of yours
11:32:04_bilgusYeah its because I pushed your scroll stop patch with that one as a child commit and the build system only shows the credits
11:32:20OlsroFRaaaah that makes sense
11:32:30_bilgusif you click on the commit and then click [parent] there is your scroll stop
11:32:50_bilgusbut the build system just shows the last one in the stack
11:34:37_bilgusbut builds do bounce around a bit just not usually the whole field
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16:24:57dookedhelas_: There have been some historical merge requests attempting to, for example, allow the USB screen to be themed but these were largely opposed by the devs of that time
16:26:37dookI'm guessing the grey recentangles you mention are the information pop ups like for shutting down, generating the database etc.
16:28:31dookI'd like to be able to do something with those, but it would be a lot of work and time for something that realistically already has a solution
16:36:48edhelas_Thanks for the info :) I imagine that it could be quite a lot of work indeed
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18:14:40OlsroFRIn my opinion what would be currently the game changer would be some real working power management for iFlash adapters, even if it implies to disable any kind on writes
18:15:23OlsroFRIf we could have power management working with iFlash, this will open the way to build things like a 1 Terabyte ipod mini filled entirely with FLACS
18:15:38OlsroFRand with a battery life lasting around 15 hours
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18:17:06OlsroFRRight now there seems to be often very great promos on Ali express to get 256GB Compact flash for cheap, but that's a bit frustrating as a workaround for something that is purely a software issue
18:17:30OlsroFRUnfortunately, I already spent many hours trying to fix it without any kind of success and improvements about this
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18:20:30edhelas_OlsroFR what are the issues with powermanagement and Flash ?
18:20:59edhelas_I just added the imcort adapter to mine https://moonlit.market/products/imcort-sd-card-adapter-for-the-ipod-classic-classic-connect
18:21:05OlsroFRIt's fully disabled so Rockbox keep the drive ON all the time which sucks the battery very fast
18:21:55OlsroFROn Classics iPods it is less noticeable because they have much bigger battery, but it is very noticeable on the iPod Mini
18:22:16edhelas_And what is preventing Rockbox to enable it ?
18:22:18OlsroFRThe iPod Mini 2nd gen can last around 17 hours on Stock OS playing AAC file, but will last only around 5/6 hours on Rockbox with iFlash adapter
18:22:52OlsroFRThe iFlash adapters do not support any ATA commands related to power management, they are all ignored
18:23:36OlsroFRSo Rockbox can cut the power completely, but doing so especially on the iPod Mini will make the storage dead during all future disk accesses
18:24:26edhelas_Wondering how the imcort one is behaving regarding that, maybe it's the same hardware as iFlash
18:24:30OlsroFROn some other iPods like the iPod video there's no such freeze but it causes data corruptions
18:25:51ant|hactari feel like my mini lasts far longer than that on rockbox
18:26:00ant|hactarbut i haven't done a proper test
18:26:28OlsroFRI personnally did tests : https://www.reddit.com/r/ipod/comments/1ee7dq0/rockboxed_ipod_mini_2g_its_time_to_benchmark_the/
18:27:25OlsroFRIf iFlash power management is ever fixed, your battery life will go x2 at minimum
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