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09:52:31	speachy	dconrad: They're uploaded. I renamed them to not have the revision, put them in the appropriate directories, and added symlinks to the upper level. not unlike the rest.
09:53:36	speachy	so... next steps IMO would be to update rbutil to replace the hosted erosq entry with v1/2, eros_h2, and v3 variations, and have that hit the native port instead.
09:54:14	speachy	ie push the native port instead of the hosted one.
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10:02:07	dconrad	speachy Alright, yeah that was going to be one of my next questions, whether we wanted to put the native port in rbutil or keep it out for confusion reasons
10:02:36	speachy	The only functional "regression" for the native port (vs hosted) is the lack of exfat support
10:02:45	speachy	it's otherwise superior in every way
10:04:37	speachy	I take that back −− the hosted port supports floating point, so there are a couple of videogame-related codecs that aren't available on the native port.
10:05:33	speachy	it's probably worth writing the erosq-specific manual stuff too
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10:07:30	dconrad	I thought I had gone through and gotten the erosqnative manual up to snuff at one point, but it probably needs updating/a second look.... I know it says we can use rbutil to install at least (which hopefully will be true soon!)
10:07:44	dconrad	but the hosted port could use its own manual too
10:08:00	speachy	I _think_ the only meaningful difference will be the installation instructions?
10:08:27	dconrad	maybe anything that lists capabilities?
10:08:49	dconrad	I think external storage is also something the hosted port has
10:09:04	speachy	I don't know how _useful_ that actually works out to be though. :)
10:09:26	speachy	hmm. that manual isn't part of the nightly set.
10:09:30	dconrad	Yeah it seems kind of cumbersome, but _someone_ out there uses it
10:09:41	dconrad	like all things haha
10:11:03	dconrad	Weren't you looking at native floating point support at one point and determined it was just too much of a lift to implement?
10:11:19	dconrad	or was that the other jz processor
10:12:13	speachy	that was for te 4760 but that _should_ be the same for the x1000
10:12:50	speachy	doing it properly would add a _lot_ of overhead to task switching, which I didn't thik we could affort
10:12:53	speachy	afford
10:13:14	dconrad	I see
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10:13:41	speachy	so I tried a hack; to only allow a single FP task (ie a codec) and not bother saving/restoring any state from it.
10:13:47	speachy	I forget where I left things
10:15:44	speachy	... okay, the manual builds cleanly. I added it to builds.pm
10:17:58	speachy	the installation instructions need to be rewritten, or at least augmented..
10:19:25	rb-bluebot	Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 563137b480, 337 builds, 9 clients.
10:19:25	rb-bluebot	builds: Mark the 'erosqnative' manual as okay, so it gets built nightly by Solomon Peachy
10:26:17	dconrad	I can work on that, and I'll do that wiki change
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10:38:27	speachy	I'm not sure how to deal with the other hibyos targets in rbutil; the current bsdiff approach is pretty crappy from a UX perspective.
10:40:23	speachy	and, dconrad, congrats on adding+maintaining the port for the only currently-in-production rockbox target.
10:40:57	dconrad	haha well it's a team effort
10:41:30	dconrad	I am glad we've found one they seem to be content to keep making
10:41:59	speachy	yes indeed. not just that, but making ongoing revisions/improvements
10:42:08	dconrad	* furiously knocking on every wood surface in reach
10:43:15	dconrad	Probably should keep the hosted port around tho, in case they change the dac or something again, so we can have /some/ support on new devices before figuring it out
10:43:26	speachy	oh, definitely.
10:43:45	speachy	it's 98% shared with the other hibyos targets anyway
10:45:46	dconrad	You know what maybe I should finally do... define those usb media keybindings haha
10:46:05	dconrad	that todo has been in the list since the beginning
10:47:34	_bilgus	I really question the true usefulness and utility of the USB key stuff
10:47:59	dconrad	I think it made sense in a different era
10:48:30	speachy	I only added it because it was near-zero effort
10:48:58	_bilgus	its usually just a reason for me to go look at my desk and find what the DAP is stuck under
10:48:59	speachy	(ie the underlying platform already supported it sanely, so it was just a matter of hooking rockbox's apis to what was already there)
10:51:12	_bilgus	it is nice from a usb rubberducky stanpoint
10:52:12	speachy	(well, in theory. in practice it exposed some bugs in the rockbox hosted port)
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11:10:29	speachy	I also want to promote this thing to 'stable' too.
11:22:49	rb-bluebot	Build Server message: New build round started. Revision de355d225c, 345 builds, 9 clients.
11:22:49	rb-bluebot	Remove static buffer from shortcts.c by William Wilgus
11:23:44	_bilgus	I was unsure if any of the talk stuff might yield but I just worked around it instead
11:23:48	speachy	good, the farm picked up the addition of 4 more manual pairs
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11:37:50	_bilgus	I think thats about all of the easy stuff
11:39:56	_bilgus	the rest are needed from a performance or data safety standpoint, these last two are not slower and probably slightly faster due to less string copying
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14:19:48	dconrad	honestly I regularly forget that we have a whole dang manual to refer to
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