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#rockbox log for 2024-09-17

00:24:55edhelas_Damn ❤️
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02:27:14asper"asper: adding another TMS320 port is straightforward enough ("just do the work") but we stripped out all HWCODEC support a few years ago."
02:27:36asperSorry does this mean that a port is not possible in an easy way ?
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02:33:59sporkno port is easy
02:34:24sporkand this one would be hard because necessary parts are no longer in rockbox
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03:10:51edhelas__bilgus I did a bit of investigation on the battery issue and it seems that the Battery Level in the UI is indeed not based on the correct value
03:11:20edhelas_The UI and theme are displaying 86% percent, based on that debug value
03:11:21edhelas_https://upload.movim.eu/files/9d94237298995552fa13436420195fbca436dce7/qHPcDrN0r5RN/1000005104.jpg
03:11:58edhelas_And it seems that the correct one is more this one, that indeed evolves while I'm listening
03:12:00edhelas_https://upload.movim.eu/files/9d94237298995552fa13436420195fbca436dce7/msHsn5ylhTNq/1000005103.jpg
03:14:36edhelas_... or not, I've just restarted the iPod and the 86% became 80%
03:14:38edhelas_https://upload.movim.eu/files/9d94237298995552fa13436420195fbca436dce7/7HiPgVuUkg6M/1000005106.jpg
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09:27:29Saratoga2TMS320DM320 has an arm9 CPU so I think you would not want hwcodec support anyway
09:28:34Saratoga2Should easily decide in software
09:28:42Saratoga2Decode
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09:33:07speachy1I guess it comes down to how the audio path is set up on that thing.
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09:35:11speachy1OlsroFR: wrt the DB translatable thing; beyond the comments I've already put in gerrit, the goal is a fully _voiced_ (not just _translated_) UI.
09:35:59speachy1Given that tagnavi.config is user-customizable, a talkclip-based solution is probably better.
09:36:57speachy1not unlike how we create talkclips for filenames today, we could parse that file (_and_ the database) and create talkclips for every entry (and every db-indexed tag) instead.
09:42:26speachy1(granted, this doesn't address _translating_ the tagnavi.config menu entries. Maybe a hybrid approach where the default strings are in the lang files, and if the user changes them (ie no builtin string is located) fall back to talkclips as needed?
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10:02:25speachybluebrother^: can you have a look at g#5930 ?
10:02:28rb-bluebotGerrit review #5930 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/5930 : rbutil: Add erosqnative by Dana Conrad
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10:07:10speachyhaha, the <All tracks> <Random> <Untagged> etc in the db browser are interpreted as paths and voiced as "micro SD two zero" on my device.
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10:18:55saratoga2the irc kiwi chat link is broken, should probably change to https://web.libera.chat/
10:19:29saratoga2https://heyrick.eu/blog/files/datasheets/tms320dm320part1.pdf
10:20:03saratoga2looks like the DSP memory is mapped into the ARM address space and accessible with just 1 cycle delay, so should be possible to write PCM to the DSP and hten have it in a loop feeding to the audio codec
10:20:39saratoga2could also get fancy and have it do things like effects or whatever, but its a pretty beefy CPU by early 2000s standards
10:21:45saratoga2i actually thought we had this at some point
10:22:27saratoga2and we do:  https://git.rockbox.org/cgit/rockbox.git/tree/firmware/target/arm/tms320dm320
10:22:41saratoga2that would explain why this felt extremely familiar
10:24:15saratoga2completely forgot that i had a creative zvm back in the day
10:24:38speachyhmm, is there a way to pass the desired channel to the web.libera.chat ?
10:26:43saratoga2not sure but its pretty easy to type #rockbox
10:31:50rb-bluebotBuild Server message: New build round started. Revision e09c055a41, 345 builds, 10 clients.
10:31:51rb-bluebotlang: Replace all <...> with [...] by Solomon Peachy
10:36:35speachythe later AV* series main claim to fame was video playback and (sometimes) recording. The hwcodec was probably most useful for that.
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10:45:30OlsroFR+speachy Just pushed a new patch to make things much cleaner. But I did not develop things related to speech/talk, I don't know how to build those .talk files at all so I did not bother with all of this
10:45:44OlsroFRbut implementing working talk in top of implementation should now be theorically possible
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11:10:03rb-bluebotBuild Server message: New build round started. Revision c71b6265b0, 345 builds, 10 clients.
11:10:03rb-bluebotFix a mechanical error in the Simplified Chinese translation by Solomon Peachy
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13:42:12LambdaCalculus37So I'm seeing rumblings about a version 4.0 release coming soon? How's that coming along? What's needed to finally get it out the door?
13:44:19speachyI _think_ all of the infra-side todos are done; there are a couple of bugs I want to see fixed.
13:44:37LambdaCalculus37Also, holy crap it's been a minute since I've been in here!
13:45:01speachywhat needs doing are testing current builds (and bootloaders, ideally) on everything that's not a sansa or ipod.
13:46:00speachyand better translation coverage
13:46:28LambdaCalculus37Unfortunately my iriver H320 met with a tragic end so I can no longer offer testing on it. In its place I now have a 2nd gen iPod Mini that I rescued from a freecycle pile and modded with a 32GB CF card.
13:46:59speachythere are a few release blocker bugs/todos still, everyone has their own pet list.
13:47:52LambdaCalculus37I'll see what I can do.
13:48:22LambdaCalculus37Would you accept another build of Rbutil on Linux aarch64 for this release? Or not needed?
13:49:10speachy...we will need another rbutil build prior to the release, but there's at least one pending change that needs to land first.
13:49:18LambdaCalculus37Okay
13:49:45LambdaCalculus37I don't mind building a new Rbutil for aarch64 if needed
13:49:46speachy... would also be useful to make sure rbutil still works on current windows & mac versions too
13:50:37speachybut with forum/etc reports you're never really sure if problems are due to bugs or folks skipping steps for $reasons
13:50:41LambdaCalculus37Closest macOS I can offer is Ventura, which is currently the previous release and will be two major versions behind come the release of macOS 15
13:51:55speachyI need to write up something about "rockbox and ipod ssd mods" too. it's quite a mess out there.
13:53:34LambdaCalculus37Good idea. I have two other iPods I rescued (a 4th gen B&W and a Color/Photo) and both need replacement drives. I wanted to go the SSD route but after the initial bad time I had with my Video, I set that idea aside for now.
13:53:51LambdaCalculus37But then again that was years ago...
13:54:29speachyas far as I'm aware things JustWork(tm), but battery life will probably suffer if you use one of those SD card adapters.
13:55:11LambdaCalculus37On my Mini I have a proper CF card. I found one I wasn't using that was still in good condition and did the swap.
13:55:19speachy(since they don't implement mandatory ATA power management commands like "flush your writes")
13:55:45LambdaCalculus37Also got my local DEF CON group interested in Rockbox so I might do a little lightning talk about it at our next meetup
13:56:05LambdaCalculus37That'll be my
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13:56:09LambdaCalculus37Oops
13:56:23LambdaCalculus37That'll be my... fourth talk on Rockbox!
13:56:51OlsroFRSpeachy Yes it is working and is reliable, the only (huge) drawback is power consumption
13:57:02OlsroFRon mono ipod it divides almost per 3 the expected battery life
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16:18:43speachyok, my ipodvideo's ribbon cable is defective. the spares I have are too thick to fit into the connectors...
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