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12:32:48 | Greenpoint | Hello, I need help restoring iPod Classic (120gb, 2009 model) I recently acquired a slim back iPod Classic from my co-worker for buying him lunch. The aux port was damaged, HDD was corrupt and battery life was depleted. It was still a great deal. |
12:32:48 | Greenpoint | I ended up buying a new aux assembly flex and battery from Amazon. Also, got a Taptic Engine and iFlash Quad from Elite Obsolete. With a snug fit, I managed to get everything installed. After all the hardware upgrades, I connected the iPod to iTunes and used the "restore" feature. It all went well and the iPod was restored to 128gb limit. I loaded the iPod with mp3s through iTunes and used |
12:32:48 | Greenpoint | it for a couple of weeks. Next, I wanted to check out ROCKBOX. I downloaded / extracted RockboxUtility-v1.5.1. for Windows. My iPod was detected by the software and I followed the onboard instructions build into the Rockbox Utility software. Press and hold SELECT + MENU buttons, after about 12 seconds a new action will require you to replease the buttons, DO IT QUICKLY, otherwise the proccess |
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12:32:48 | Greenpoint | could fail. The proccess failed. I've tried multiple times but it still wouldn't work. My iPod now is stuck, no display and it's not detected by iTunes. I can see it in device manager. After struggling for a couple of hours I decided to take it apart, remove the 256GB microSD card and format in Windows. It didn't help. I'm not sure what else I can do at this point, its not displaying anything. |
12:32:48 | Greenpoint | Has anyone run into the same problem? Thanks for reading. |
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13:56:41 | Greenpoint | There's a thunderstorm passing through and it looks like I might lose power. If anyone here has any tips, tricks, sugguestion on how I can recover my iPod and get Rockbox up and running, please shoot me an email, Markbielen@gmail.com. Thanks again. |
13:59:52 | Bubblegumdrop | Greenpoint I think if you hold MENU and SELECT it should boot into the OF |
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14:00:17 | Bubblegumdrop | there's a disk recovery mode that won't ever be overwritten, you should still be able to acces that |
14:00:29 | Bubblegumdrop | I think what you want to do is hold MENU+SELECT then plug it in |
14:00:36 | Bubblegumdrop | that should put it into raw disk mode to do whatever |
14:01:17 | Bubblegumdrop | I beleive iPods need to have a funny partition layout or a particular block size, which you can do safely from iTunes, not the windows formatting utility |
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14:38:18 | Greenpoint | Hey Bubblegumdrop, thanks for the reply. I'll give it a try in a sec. |
14:38:28 | Bubblegumdrop | Greenpoint I'm here all day :) |
14:41:59 | Greenpoint | It didn't work. The screen still won't light up. I do hear the divice connect/disconnect sound in windows but no life from the iPod. Also, nothing from iTunes, Rockbox utility or Disk manager. |
14:42:34 | Greenpoint | At this point I just want the screen to light up at least lol |
14:43:02 | Bubblegumdrop | Greenpoint you said you were inside? maybe you bumped a wire or something? |
14:43:18 | Bubblegumdrop | those lil flex cables are quite fragile. I broke mine in replacing the headphone jack and had to buy another. |
14:43:49 | Greenpoint | The only sign of life is the connect/disconnect sound in windows when holding select + menu |
14:44:25 | Bubblegumdrop | yeah but if you disconnected the screen flex cable the screen won't come on |
14:44:37 | Bubblegumdrop | and no amount of button holding will fix it |
14:44:58 | Bubblegumdrop | maybe double check you assembled everythign properly? Surely there's videos on youtube. |
14:46:19 | Greenpoint | Yeah, I can see how the damaged flex cable can cuz no display issue but I was using this iPod for a week with no issue. It all stared when I tried installing Rockbox. |
14:47:02 | Bubblegumdrop | okay okay, so the flex was working and you did the rockbox utility |
14:47:28 | Bubblegumdrop | okay from the internet: |
14:47:30 | Bubblegumdrop | HHold MENU+SELECT on the iPod for about 6 seconds until it resets, then switch to PLAY+SELECT as soon as the Apple logo appears, again for about 6 seconds to put the machine in disk mode. Hold MENU+SELECT on the iPod for about 6 seconds to reset the device back to normal when done. |
14:47:40 | Greenpoint | I have it disassemble now that I can pull out the microSD card and format it. I was thinking the SD card got corrupt from the install. |
14:47:55 | Bubblegumdrop | MENU+SELECT for 6 seconds should "reboot" the device. What I do is I keep my thumb on select and immediately shift it down to hold PLAY+SELECT |
14:48:05 | Bubblegumdrop | it's kinda finesse |
14:48:15 | Bubblegumdrop | you have to be real quick just keep trying you won't break anything by doing this |
14:49:03 | Bubblegumdrop | the disk mode is programmed into the processor or something, you definitely should still be able to access it no matter how b0rked |
14:50:56 | Greenpoint | So, I do hear the device connect/disconnect sound in windows when holding Menu+Select for about 6 sec but no APPLE Logo appears. |
14:51:37 | Greenpoint | This sucks. I don't get it. It was just working yesterday... |
14:52:01 | Bubblegumdrop | Greenpoint are you able to hold the device under a lamp? possibly the backlight isn't illuminating the screen? I'm fairly certain this is what happens on my model. It's *extremely* faint. |
14:53:49 | Bubblegumdrop | as soon as the screen flashes, you have to move your hands to PLAY+SELECT |
14:53:56 | Bubblegumdrop | like under 1 second of movement |
14:54:01 | Bubblegumdrop | *very* quick |
14:55:35 | Greenpoint | I'm point the flash light directly at the display while trying Menu+Select, no display at all, nothing lights up |
14:56:13 | Greenpoint | I guess it'll be a nice paper weight lol |
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15:02:17 | Bubblegumdrop | no display flicker? |
15:02:28 | Bubblegumdrop | I highly doubt rockbox bricked your device |
15:02:41 | Bubblegumdrop | those iFlash adapters can draw a bit too much current |
15:02:48 | Bubblegumdrop | it could be something electrical related |
15:04:02 | Greenpoint | I don't think you're wrong. I also doubt Rockbox bricked the device. At this point I have everything disconnected, the iFlash adapter, battery, display and aux,hold switch flex. |
15:04:28 | Bubblegumdrop | have you got access to a multimeter? |
15:04:33 | Greenpoint | yeah |
15:04:46 | Bubblegumdrop | if you've got the thing apart you might as well check .. I dont know where to find the datasheets for any of the parts though, sorry |
15:05:08 | Bubblegumdrop | maybe just try without the iflash adapter for starters? |
15:05:14 | Greenpoint | What would you like me to check with the multimeter? |
15:05:35 | Bubblegumdrop | haha, I guess you could check something like the voltage and ground for the display are still active |
15:05:48 | Bubblegumdrop | I don't know, I have a background in electronics so I'd pull up a datasheet and just start poking |
15:05:57 | Bubblegumdrop | I've never had to go this deep into an ipod though |
15:06:48 | Bubblegumdrop | but if the device is telling your OS "hey I'm here" that's something? |
15:07:10 | Bubblegumdrop | maybe if you pressed a little too hard on the flex cable and damaged it? I dunno! |
15:07:22 | Bubblegumdrop | a magnifying glass may be helpful as well |
15:07:31 | Bubblegumdrop | I recall struggling greatly with those tiny little parts |
15:15:01 | Greenpoint | Bubblegumdrop, thanks for your input. |
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15:16:02 | Bubblegumdrop | sorry you're having trouble with your device, if you're persistent I'm certain you will uncover the issue! |
15:16:39 | Greenpoint | yeah i'm pretty stubborn lol |
15:17:37 | Greenpoint | i'm probably going to buy a new mainboard from eBay. |
15:19:36 | Bubblegumdrop | you could check the battery traces with your multimeter possibly |
15:19:43 | Bubblegumdrop | again, I don't know where to find a datasheet or anything |
15:19:45 | Bubblegumdrop | apologies |
15:22:39 | Greenpoint | I think iTunes should still be able to pick it up even without a battery connected? |
15:23:08 | Greenpoint | Just from USB cable power. |
15:23:25 | Bubblegumdrop | no idea. |
15:23:41 | Bubblegumdrop | I would *not* mess with it while plugged into your PC. |
15:24:08 | Bubblegumdrop | your pc is connected to the wall, a very scary place for electricity |
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23:33:39 | _bilgus | so after playing with the file level cache for a few days the problem is when it doesn't hit the cache, carrying around the sector number the flags and the buffer pointer worked well enough and does serve to speed up writes and reads but not really enough to be worth the complexity |
23:35:22 | _bilgus | the part about hitting the disk directly when the sector is aligned makes it even worse for this idea |
23:36:19 | _bilgus | instead I'm thinking about just using the ramdisk code, and bring up a ramdisk backed by the plugin buf |
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