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#rockbox log for 2024-09-30

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12:32:48GreenpointHello, I need help restoring iPod Classic (120gb, 2009 model) I recently acquired a slim back iPod Classic from my co-worker for buying him lunch. The aux port was damaged, HDD was corrupt and battery life was depleted. It was still a great deal.
12:32:48GreenpointI ended up buying a new aux assembly flex and battery from Amazon. Also, got a Taptic Engine and iFlash Quad from Elite Obsolete. With a snug fit, I managed to get everything installed. After all the hardware upgrades, I connected the iPod to iTunes and used the "restore" feature. It all went well and the iPod was restored to 128gb limit. I loaded the iPod with mp3s through iTunes and used
12:32:48Greenpointit for a couple of weeks. Next, I wanted to check out ROCKBOX. I downloaded / extracted RockboxUtility-v1.5.1. for Windows. My iPod was detected by the software and I followed the onboard instructions build into the Rockbox Utility software. Press and hold SELECT + MENU buttons, after about 12 seconds a new action will require you to replease the buttons, DO IT QUICKLY, otherwise the proccess
12:32:48DBUGEnqueued KICK Greenpoint
12:32:48Greenpointcould fail. The proccess failed. I've tried multiple times but it still wouldn't work. My iPod now is stuck, no display and it's not detected by iTunes. I can see it in device manager. After struggling for a couple of hours I decided to take it apart, remove the 256GB microSD card and format in Windows. It didn't help. I'm not sure what else I can do at this point, its not displaying anything.
12:32:48GreenpointHas anyone run into the same problem? Thanks for reading.
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13:56:41GreenpointThere's a thunderstorm passing through and it looks like I might lose power. If anyone here has any tips, tricks, sugguestion on how I can recover my iPod and get Rockbox up and running, please shoot me an email, Markbielen@gmail.com. Thanks again.
13:59:52BubblegumdropGreenpoint I think if you hold MENU and SELECT it should boot into the OF
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14:00:17Bubblegumdropthere's a disk recovery mode that won't ever be overwritten, you should still be able to acces that
14:00:29BubblegumdropI think what you want to do is hold MENU+SELECT then plug it in
14:00:36Bubblegumdropthat should put it into raw disk mode to do whatever
14:01:17BubblegumdropI beleive iPods need to have a funny partition layout or a particular block size, which you can do safely from iTunes, not the windows formatting utility
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14:38:18GreenpointHey Bubblegumdrop, thanks for the reply. I'll give it a try in a sec.
14:38:28BubblegumdropGreenpoint I'm here all day :)
14:41:59GreenpointIt didn't work. The screen still won't light up. I do hear the divice connect/disconnect sound in windows but no life from the iPod. Also, nothing from iTunes, Rockbox utility or Disk manager.
14:42:34GreenpointAt this point I just want the screen to light up at least lol
14:43:02BubblegumdropGreenpoint you said you were inside? maybe you bumped a wire or something?
14:43:18Bubblegumdropthose lil flex cables are quite fragile. I broke mine in replacing the headphone jack and had to buy another.
14:43:49GreenpointThe only sign of life is the connect/disconnect sound in windows when holding select + menu
14:44:25Bubblegumdropyeah but if you disconnected the screen flex cable the screen won't come on
14:44:37Bubblegumdropand no amount of button holding will fix it
14:44:58Bubblegumdropmaybe double check you assembled everythign properly? Surely there's videos on youtube.
14:46:19GreenpointYeah, I can see how the damaged flex cable can cuz no display issue but I was using this iPod for a week with no issue. It all stared when I tried installing Rockbox.
14:47:02Bubblegumdropokay okay, so the flex was working and you did the rockbox utility
14:47:28Bubblegumdropokay from the internet:
14:47:30BubblegumdropHHold MENU+SELECT on the iPod for about 6 seconds until it resets, then switch to PLAY+SELECT as soon as the Apple logo appears, again for about 6 seconds to put the machine in disk mode. Hold MENU+SELECT on the iPod for about 6 seconds to reset the device back to normal when done.
14:47:40GreenpointI have it disassemble now that I can pull out the microSD card and format it. I was thinking the SD card got corrupt from the install.
14:47:55BubblegumdropMENU+SELECT for 6 seconds should "reboot" the device. What I do is I keep my thumb on select and immediately shift it down to hold PLAY+SELECT
14:48:05Bubblegumdropit's kinda finesse
14:48:15Bubblegumdropyou have to be real quick just keep trying you won't break anything by doing this
14:49:03Bubblegumdropthe disk mode is programmed into the processor or something, you definitely should still be able to access it no matter how b0rked
14:50:56GreenpointSo, I do hear the device connect/disconnect sound in windows when holding Menu+Select for about 6 sec but no APPLE Logo appears.
14:51:37GreenpointThis sucks. I don't get it. It was just working yesterday...
14:52:01BubblegumdropGreenpoint are you able to hold the device under a lamp? possibly the backlight isn't illuminating the screen? I'm fairly certain this is what happens on my model. It's *extremely* faint.
14:53:49Bubblegumdropas soon as the screen flashes, you have to move your hands to PLAY+SELECT
14:53:56Bubblegumdroplike under 1 second of movement
14:54:01Bubblegumdrop*very* quick
14:55:35GreenpointI'm point the flash light directly at the display while trying Menu+Select, no display at all, nothing lights up
14:56:13GreenpointI guess it'll be a nice paper weight lol
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15:02:17Bubblegumdropno display flicker?
15:02:28BubblegumdropI highly doubt rockbox bricked your device
15:02:41Bubblegumdropthose iFlash adapters can draw a bit too much current
15:02:48Bubblegumdropit could be something electrical related
15:04:02GreenpointI don't think you're wrong. I also doubt Rockbox bricked the device. At this point I have everything disconnected, the iFlash adapter, battery, display and aux,hold switch flex.
15:04:28Bubblegumdrophave you got access to a multimeter?
15:04:33Greenpointyeah
15:04:46Bubblegumdropif you've got the thing apart you might as well check .. I dont know where to find the datasheets for any of the parts though, sorry
15:05:08Bubblegumdropmaybe just try without the iflash adapter for starters?
15:05:14GreenpointWhat would you like me to check with the multimeter?
15:05:35Bubblegumdrophaha, I guess you could check something like the voltage and ground for the display are still active
15:05:48BubblegumdropI don't know, I have a background in electronics so I'd pull up a datasheet and just start poking
15:05:57BubblegumdropI've never had to go this deep into an ipod though
15:06:48Bubblegumdropbut if the device is telling your OS "hey I'm here" that's something?
15:07:10Bubblegumdropmaybe if you pressed a little too hard on the flex cable and damaged it? I dunno!
15:07:22Bubblegumdropa magnifying glass may be helpful as well
15:07:31BubblegumdropI recall struggling greatly with those tiny little parts
15:15:01GreenpointBubblegumdrop, thanks for your input.
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15:16:02Bubblegumdropsorry you're having trouble with your device, if you're persistent I'm certain you will uncover the issue!
15:16:39Greenpointyeah i'm pretty stubborn lol
15:17:37Greenpointi'm probably going to buy a new mainboard from eBay.
15:19:36Bubblegumdropyou could check the battery traces with your multimeter possibly
15:19:43Bubblegumdropagain, I don't know where to find a datasheet or anything
15:19:45Bubblegumdropapologies
15:22:39GreenpointI think iTunes should still be able to pick it up even without a battery connected?
15:23:08GreenpointJust from USB cable power.
15:23:25Bubblegumdropno idea.
15:23:41BubblegumdropI would *not* mess with it while plugged into your PC.
15:24:08Bubblegumdropyour pc is connected to the wall, a very scary place for electricity
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23:33:39_bilgusso after playing with the file level cache for a few days the problem is when it doesn't hit the cache, carrying around the sector number the flags and the buffer pointer worked well enough and does serve to speed up writes and reads but not really enough to be worth the complexity
23:35:22_bilgusthe part about hitting the disk directly when the sector is aligned makes it even worse for this idea
23:36:19_bilgusinstead I'm thinking about just using the ramdisk code, and bring up a ramdisk backed by the plugin buf
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