| 01:00 |
| 01:51:19 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 02:00 |
| 02:33:32 | | Quit decky_e (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 02:33:57 | | Join decky_e [0] (~decky_@69.9.138.182) |
| 03:00 |
| 03:51:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:00 |
| 05:03:59 | | Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 05:04:42 | | Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) |
| 05:51:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 06:00 |
| 06:43:34 | | Join Moriar [0] (~moriar@107-200-193-159.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:56:50 | | Quit Moriar (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 07:00 |
| 07:25:30 | | Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@2a0c:e303:0:7300:e29d:31ff:fe2d:a258) |
| 07:51:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:41 | | Join Everything [0] (~Everythin@178-133-61-155.mobile.vf-ua.net) |
| 08:31:17 | rb-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 063b917f69, 345 builds, 9 clients. |
| 08:31:17 | rb-bluebot | Codecs: wma: fix parsing album art by Roman Artiukhin |
| 08:44:22 | rb-bluebot | Build Server message: Build round completed after 785 seconds. |
| 08:44:24 | rb-bluebot | Build Server message: Revision 063b917f69 result: All green |
| 09:00 |
| 09:51:29 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 11:00 |
| 11:05:03 | | Quit Everything (Quit: leaving) |
| 11:35:11 | speachy | hmm, there may be a way to safely kill power to those SD card adapters. |
| 11:41:41 | speachy | but as of e0df9952fd we can lose data on (user-triggered) shutdown if there are unflushed writes. |
| 11:48:48 | speachy | the shutdown path doesn't trigger flushes, just waits until storage_is_active() is false. |
| 11:51:31 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 12:00 |
| 12:24:53 | | Quit Nezumi-sama (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 12:30:12 | | Join Nezumi-sama [0] (~narf@syn-067-053-148-069.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 12:35:05 | | Quit Nezumi-sama (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 12:40:10 | | Join Nezumi-sama [0] (~narf@syn-067-053-148-069.biz.spectrum.com) |
| 12:41:14 | | Join thanosengine [0] (~thanos@user/thanosengine) |
| 12:49:49 | | Quit thanosengine (Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2) |
| 12:52:59 | | Join thanosengine [0] (~thanos@user/thanosengine) |
| 13:00 |
| 13:47:39 | speachy | if someone has an SD card mod in their ipod5g or ipod6g and is feeling brave I have an experimental build to try out. |
| 13:50:32 | speachy | It uses a different approach to flushing data out and putting the drive to sleep. |
| 13:51:34 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:00 |
| 14:25:44 | | Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 14:25:56 | | Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) |
| 14:44:37 | speachy | seems to not cause my mini2g (+ the original iflash CF->SD adapter) to go kaboom. should have no effect on the original spinning rust. |
| 15:00 |
| 15:22:43 | | Quit thanosengine (Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2) |
| 15:25:17 | | Join thanosengine [0] (~thanos@user/thanosengine) |
| 15:27:36 | | Join henk [0] (~henk@user/hnj) |
| 15:30:06 | | Join Everything [0] (~Everythin@178-133-129-110.mobile.vf-ua.net) |
| 15:35:39 | henk | hi, does anyone happen to know of anyone working on a port to “hidizs ap100”? |
| 15:39:23 | speachy | not that anyone's spoken up about. It's architecurally similar to the xduoo X3, but with a better screen. |
| 15:43:04 | henk | hm, ok. that sounds good. now I’m tempted to get my hands dirty … but I know I’m not (yet) knowledgable enough and don’t have the time and energy to get that done. |
| 15:43:07 | henk | thanks! |
| 15:45:45 | henk | other question: is https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide.html uptodate and still makes sense to use? a few links are broken, it says »Prices last updated on February 6th, 2008«, and the models generally sound like they are from the 200Xs :D IOW: I’m looking for a nice device to buy (cheaply, off of ebay or something alike) with good support, any suggestions? |
| 15:46:40 | speachy | your options are largly HDD-based ipods (plentiful and good aftermarket part support) |
| 15:46:52 | speachy | or if new, the surfans f20 / hifiwalker h2 |
| 15:47:38 | thanosengine | I love my sansa clips |
| 15:50:40 | speachy | the clips are dying off as their onboard flash dies and the physical stuff eventually dies |
| 15:51:09 | thanosengine | yeah, I managed to stock up on the lil guys |
| 15:51:30 | speachy | I have one with a worn-out flash, and another that has a display that randomly doesn't work. |
| 15:51:36 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:51:41 | thanosengine | all of mine just have battery issues |
| 15:52:17 | speachy | finding replacement batteries for non-ipods is a growing challenge too. |
| 15:53:08 | henk | hm, yeah, sansa had cool devices (: |
| 15:53:26 | thanosengine | yeah, I've been considering 3d-printing a new back case for the clip+ that adds some extra thickness for a battery intended to go in the charging case for a set of wireless earbuds |
| 15:53:58 | thanosengine | some of them are about the right size, just twice as thick as the original |
| 15:54:03 | henk | what does “HDD-based” mean for ipods? is that actually “spinning rust”, as in computer storage “HDD” vs “SSD”? |
| 15:54:16 | speachy | "contained a hard disk when sold new" |
| 15:54:16 | thanosengine | also would more than double the original battery capacity that way |
| 15:54:31 | speachy | ie the "big" ones and the minis. nanos are flash-based. |
| 15:54:54 | thanosengine | yeah, early IPods literally had a little baby hard drive with actual spinning rust |
| 15:55:07 | henk | O_O |
| 15:55:29 | henk | wow, I’m stunned |
| 15:55:48 | thanosengine | the things we did before cheap flash storage |
| 15:56:46 | thanosengine | there were also plenty of devices that would play mp3 files off of optical media |
| 15:57:22 | thanosengine | fortunately nobody tried making small optical media for a jukebox style device |
| 15:57:38 | | Quit thanosengine (Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2) |
| 15:58:25 | henk | oh, btw: the surfans and walker look really nice as well! the body seems similar to my hidizs, a bit fancier. |
| 16:00 |
| 16:05:17 | henk | speachy: re ipod: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus mentions 3rd and 4th gen, the mini, nano 1st/2nd gen, video, classic. is that complete, correct and, uptodate or is there anything you would add? or dissuade from? |
| 16:06:08 | speachy | generally speaking the ones to go for are the 5th and 6th gens. the mini 2nd gen too. |
| 16:07:36 | speachy | nano 1g/2g work great but are flash-based, which is not (easily) replaceable. |
| 16:08:03 | henk | oh, they generally don’t support microsd, right? |
| 16:08:13 | user890104 | also nanos have 1/2/4 GB flash, which is fairly low nowadays |
| 16:08:44 | user890104 | nano3g abd later have 8GB, but still unsupported |
| 16:09:00 | user890104 | and no iPod has microsd slot. blame Apple for that |
| 16:10:40 | henk | meh, I was almost considering using an apple product … |
| 16:10:55 | user890104 | that's why iFlash adapters are popular, they replace the spinning rust with 1-4 sd cards, mSATA or CF |
| 16:13:23 | user890104 | I was working on a nano3g port, but the code was written 7 years ago and it's hard to adapt it to the current rockbox version |
| 16:13:49 | user890104 | even with nano3g you get 8GB tops |
| 16:14:15 | user890104 | there were unsuccessful 16GB mod attempts |
| 16:14:44 | henk | ah, hmmm |
| 16:15:22 | user890104 | flash replacement could be supported by rockbox, if the FTL/VFL part is figured out |
| 16:16:36 | user890104 | there'd an ipod modding discord by lemon_jesus, PM me if you want to join |
| 16:16:46 | user890104 | there's* |
| 16:29:06 | henk | ah well, guess I’ll save up for a surfans or a hifi walker … |
| 16:29:21 | henk | user890104: thanks, but no time and energy ATM to get into that |
| 16:37:29 | | Join othello8 [0] (~Thunderbi@pool-100-36-176-164.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:37:38 | | Quit othello7 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 16:37:39 | | Nick othello8 is now known as othello7 (~Thunderbi@pool-100-36-176-164.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:38:10 | | Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 16:44:20 | henk | could a hardware manufacturer distribute their devices with rockbox? |
| 16:44:25 | henk | are there any that do? |
| 16:44:31 | henk | or officially support rockbox? |
| 17:00 |
| 17:04:33 | | Join Moriar [0] (~moriar@107-200-193-159.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:10:04 | speachy | yes, no, and sorta. I think AGPTek did out a firmware image for their Rocker that had our bootloader in it. |
| 17:26:43 | | Join OlsroFR [0] (~OlsroFR@user/OlsroFR) |
| 17:27:01 | OlsroFR | +speachy Hey, I have an iFlash modded 1TB iPod mini 2G. I am motivated to test your build |
| 17:27:04 | OlsroFR | (and battery benchmark it) |
| 17:28:18 | speachy | OlsroFR: https://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/mini2g-exp.zip |
| 17:35:37 | | Quit Everything (Quit: leaving) |
| 17:35:52 | | Join Everything [0] (~Everythin@178-133-129-110.mobile.vf-ua.net) |
| 17:37:24 | OlsroFR | I get 241023 at boot, is it the correct identifier for your build ? ID commit is 6ad2[...] |
| 17:40:10 | speachy | yep |
| 17:40:44 | speachy | disk info in the debug menu shoudl have an additional line about 'flush cache' |
| 17:41:54 | speachy | (if you could tell me what and the 'power mgmt' lines say) |
| 17:42:11 | OlsroFR | Power mgmt: unsupported |
| 17:42:19 | OlsroFR | Flush cache: extended |
| 17:42:32 | OlsroFR | Firmware: iFlash72 |
| 17:43:27 | speachy | beyond that, try to beat up on it |
| 17:44:49 | speachy | what iflash model? the original one that takes the full size SD card? |
| 17:44:57 | OlsroFR | iFlash CF |
| 17:45:02 | speachy | (or is it one of the generics?) |
| 17:45:33 | OlsroFR | Nope, it is a real iFlash. With a sandisk 1 tb microSD on an SD adapter that is inserted into the iFlash CF |
| 17:45:56 | OlsroFR | this is so overkill that even stock OS is struggling with it. Sometimes it just don't boot and give me the dead ipod icon |
| 17:47:06 | OlsroFR | I had to retry just 4 times just to be able to put disk mode on this. Before blaming Rockbox if it does not work well, I will probably also try to put a real 128GB fullsize SD card |
| 17:48:03 | OlsroFR | but once it is connected on disk mode, file transfers are stable |
| 17:48:42 | OlsroFR | Is it normal that your custom build tells that power management is unsupported ? Will it try to shutdown ? |
| 17:49:11 | OlsroFR | if this does not try to shut it down, there will be no change and it should be stable (but battery hungry) |
| 17:51:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:59:16 | henk | speachy: uuuh, yes, no, sorta? can you elaborate? (: |
| 18:00 |
| 18:04:10 | OlsroFR | +speachy Started to play a FLAC file from the database menu. I wait 20 seconds, before going back in the menu. Then, while going back to the artists view in the menu, I got the terrible dc_writeback_callback crash :( |
| 18:05:11 | OlsroFR | *PANIC* dc_writeback_callback () - Could not write sector 1806153 (error -7) pc:00070a48 sp: 000f1028 bt end |
| 18:16:26 | | Quit Everything (Quit: leaving) |
| 19:00 |
| 19:35:24 | | Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@2603:8080:b200:7b02::b71) |
| 19:37:42 | | Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@2600:4040:a982:dc00:f5a5:b1c0:687b:a110) |
| 19:51:40 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:55:35 | | Quit OlsroFR (Quit: Connection closed) |
| 21:00 |
| 21:15:14 | | Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 21:17:37 | rb-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision cb1346b640, 345 builds, 9 clients. |
| 21:17:37 | rb-bluebot | Ignore zero bytes between markers in built-in jpeg decoder by Roman Artiukhin |
| 21:27:26 | | Quit buZz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 21:28:19 | | Join buZz [0] (~buzz@192.161.48.59) |
| 21:28:41 | | Nick buZz is now known as Guest3072 (~buzz@192.161.48.59) |
| 21:30:21 | rb-bluebot | Build Server message: Build round completed after 765 seconds. |
| 21:30:23 | rb-bluebot | Build Server message: Revision cb1346b640 result: All green |
| 21:51:42 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:57:22 | | Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@47-186-105-237.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:41 | | Quit braewoods_ (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 22:00:55 | | Join braewoods_ [0] (~braewoods@user/braewoods) |
| 22:17:04 | | Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 22:38:55 | | Quit Moriar (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 23:00 |
| 23:13:28 | | Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) |
| 23:51:45 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).