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| 01:03:07 | _bilgus_ | my guess would be somethings either not right with the files or perhaps this is a new revision? |
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| 06:09:59 | speachy | that error you reported only comes from the _native_ bootloader. |
| 06:10:45 | speachy | meanwhile if tou see the v_v failed message the stock fw didn't install that updafe file anyway, so it's moot. |
| 06:11:11 | speachy | youput the _native_ bootloader on there, install the 'erosqnative' firmware image. |
| 06:12:04 | speachy | If you're using the 1.5.1 rbutil binary, it doessn't know anything about the native version. |
| 06:13:41 | speachy | so, please, follow hte steps on the wiki page, under " Native Port Installation (the new way, with update files)" after blowing away the entire .rockbox directory. |
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| 12:43:32 | Guest64 | Hello. I am checked out at v3.15 and I'm trying to build the docker image for crosscompilation. In the build phase it says that it's using crosstool-ng-1.13.2 and I currently get stuck at: [WARN ] Could not retrieve 'eglibc-2_12' |
| 12:43:33 | Guest64 | I looked it up and for debian eglibc has been apparently merged into glibc from what I understand but I can see the files are still located on the server specified in the build script. |
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| 12:59:18 | spork | 3.15 is very old |
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| 13:00:42 | spork | either go for current rockbox or get an equally old debian ? |
| 13:00:59 | spork | (i recommend the first) |
| 13:01:44 | spork | a lot has improved in 5 years |
| 13:02:58 | CH23 | oh boy has it been that long already since 3.15? |
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| 13:20:52 | Guest64 | Isn't 3.15 the latest stable though? |
| 13:22:39 | Guest64 | Also, I am building the docker image which is using debian 9 so I do have the proper environment for it. |
| 13:22:45 | spork | it is the latest release |
| 13:23:22 | spork | unless you have a no longer supported device, you want current rockbox |
| 13:23:37 | Guest64 | Ok, so you mean master? Master is not stable though. |
| 13:23:51 | spork | what do you exepct from 'stable' |
| 13:24:08 | Guest64 | Is that a question? |
| 13:24:14 | spork | what do you exepct from 'stable' ? |
| 13:24:27 | spork | expect even |
| 13:24:40 | Guest64 | For the software to be stable. |
| 13:24:57 | Guest64 | Hence why I am on the last release which is 3.15 and is known to be stable. |
| 13:24:59 | spork | rockbox is under continous development, 'stable' is not a quality mark |
| 13:25:06 | spork | no it is not |
| 13:25:22 | spork | 3.15 is known to have issues that have been long resolved |
| 13:25:45 | spork | time and effort is the only reason no new 'stable' has been named |
| 13:27:07 | spork | which device do you want to build for ? |
| 13:34:18 | Guest64 | iPod 6g |
| 13:34:25 | Guest64 | I'll try some commits from 2022 I guess |
| 13:34:38 | Guest64 | Thanks |
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| 15:12:23 | gxsh | Looking to revert my HifiWalker H2 to stock firmware, but am unfamiliar with .sh files. Could I have some help with the uninstallation step |
| 15:12:24 | gxsh | "If the update file is unmodified, use tools/hibyos_nativepatcher/hibyos_nativepatcher.sh to mark the original bootloader for updating". I have a stock firmware update but am unsure how to mark it and fully revert the device |
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| 15:27:35 | paulcarroty | hey, got issues like this one: https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12801?string=discharging&type%5B0%5D=2 |
| 15:27:38 | _bilgus_ | gxsh you probably just need to supply the file as an argument to the script |
| 15:28:33 | paulcarroty | on ~1 month old dev build. any workarounds? |
| 15:33:51 | _bilgus_ | paulcarroty, I think the fuze+ (imx23) has its own dedicated battery mgmt chip and we do have a TOPOFF mode that times out after 30 mins |
| 15:35:31 | _bilgus_ | you should be able to goto the debug menu and see what mode it is currently in |
| 15:36:04 | _bilgus_ | after that I'd say maybe an issue with the USB cord disconnecting and starting the charge over?? |
| 15:37:02 | _bilgus_ | does it do this same behavior with a wall type charger (ora differentlower power wattage one) |
| 15:39:14 | paulcarroty | bilgus_: it's charging, then in random time can discharge to -20%, then will start again. |
| 15:39:51 | paulcarroty | also just after moment of disconnect it can loose 10-15% battery |
| 15:40:25 | paulcarroty | will test will low power charger tomorrow |
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| 15:46:44 | _bilgus_ | what I can do is add a bit of logic to disable charging after a top off for say 10 mins but that all depends if the device is getting to the full charge mark |
| 15:47:26 | _bilgus_ | if its not there is nothing we can do that won't be wrong at some other point in the cycle and i'd say your battery is probably the issue |
| 15:50:12 | paulcarroty | battery can do 15 hrs runtime, not new, but not dying yet |
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| 15:58:03 | _bilgus_ | paulcarroty, g#6136 |
| 15:58:06 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #6136 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/6136 : [WIP] Fuze+ (IMX233) add full charge timeout by William Wilgus |
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| 16:02:51 | dconrad | gxsh: you can give this a try: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13YIXJtIfmT4q2r642_uUVycSvhWi-eYC/view?usp=sharing |
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| 16:03:15 | dconrad | you'll need to rename it to "update.upt" |
| 16:08:18 | gxsh | thank you so much, ill give it a try soon |
| 16:09:50 | paulcarroty | bilgus: thx, bookmarked. hope to give more info tomorrow. |
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| 16:13:01 | chris_s | re g#6133 is it still necessary to mark lang entries as deprecated instead of removing them? |
| 16:13:05 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #6133 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/6133 : erosqnative: Repurpose stereosw_select setting for output select by Dana Conrad |
| 16:13:59 | _bilgus_ | chris_s, I think its fine to rename in place since we regen now with every build |
| 16:15:24 | chris_s | ok thanks |
| 16:15:43 | _bilgus_ | and speach y has since implemented caching on the voice pool so its no longer such a drag |
| 16:15:45 | gxsh | dconrad worked like a charm! lifesaver. thanks again |
| 16:15:53 | dconrad | no problem |
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| 16:17:28 | chris_s | _bilgus_ ah great, yeah that's kind of what I remembered, just a little unsure |
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| 16:20:15 | _bilgus_ | well thinking about it though that does mean you need to unzip the whole folder instead of picking the bin and lang files, doubt that matters to users |
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| 16:23:43 | _bilgus_ | hmm maybe it should still be marked deprecated though so it would not let the older lang files and voices bring up the wrong phrase |
| 16:24:42 | _bilgus_ | nah just bump the lang version |
| 16:25:38 | Guest96 | I managed to build it( I had to use debian stretch to make it build, not sure why it kept failing with newer versions). I copied the updated files to my existing installation. Is that the right thing to do or do I also have to remove my exiting configuration files? |
| 16:32:31 | user890104 | Guest96: it's not a problem to copy the files over the old installation, as long as you accept all replace prompts (or use cp, which will do this by default) |
| 16:32:59 | Guest96 | Cool, thanks |
| 16:33:32 | _bilgus_ | oh apparently the lang version thing is gone now |
| 16:33:44 | _bilgus_ | hmm not sure speachy Ideas? |
| 16:34:20 | user890104 | Guest96: also, if you need a container image for arm crosscompilation specifically, feel free to use the image from my container registry: registry.gitlab.com/user890104/rockbox-dev:latest |
| 16:34:33 | Guest96 | Welp, it crashed as soon as I plugged it into my PC so that's fun. It has done it before so no biggie. |
| 16:34:35 | user890104 | (it does not have MIPS and the other toolchains) |
| 16:35:39 | Guest96 | user890104: I wish I had known that earlier as I spent 3 hours trying to get the docker container to build and it always failed(had to manually do everything in interactive mode with debian:9 image lol) |
| 16:35:41 | user890104 | also its source Dockerfile is here: https://gitlab.com/user890104/rockbox-dev/-/blob/master/Dockerfile?ref_type=heads |
| 16:35:54 | user890104 | debian 9 is old even for me :) |
| 16:37:01 | Guest96 | It refused to build on anything newer |
| 16:37:07 | user890104 | as an added bonus, here's my GitLab CI config, that builds for ipodnano2g and ipod6g on every git push: https://gitlab.com/user890104/rockbox/-/blob/ipodnano3g4g/.gitlab-ci.yml?ref_type=heads |
| 16:37:45 | user890104 | but keep in mind that's up to date with Git master branch. yes, there hasn't been an official release, but a 4.0 is being prepared |
| 16:39:41 | user890104 | there is a draft of the major changes, so you can see for yourself how much has changed since 3.15: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges |
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| 18:34:20 | OlsroFR | I made also my own Docker script that anyone can use: https://github.com/Olsro/rockbox-docker |
| 18:34:20 | OlsroFR | I built it from scratch and is based on Ubuntu 22.04 |
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| 19:48:18 | speachy | chris_s: yeah, not strictly necessary any more, but our "incompatible voice file" detection is rather crude. (I think it just checks that the number of entries matches what was compiled in) |
| 19:49:09 | chris_s | thanks! |
| 19:49:20 | speachy | _bilgus_: that was long gone before my time too, IIRC |
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| 19:49:53 | speachy | _bilgus_: It's too much of a PITA to support nonsynchronized lang files for a given build. |
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| 19:51:16 | speachy | Guest96: And that is why we say to just use master... |
| 19:51:41 | speachy | there's also this: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes400 for a high level overview. |
| 19:53:50 | speachy | unless there is a _specific_ bug you are trying to avoid (or are attempting to narrow down when it was introduced) current master is _vastly_ superior to 3.15 in every respect. Far fewer known bugs too. |
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| 20:06:00 | _bilgus_ | (I think it just checks that the number of entries matches what was compiled in) < thats my understanding as well so maybe leaving the deprecated string would be a better idea? |
| 20:07:58 | chris_s | I think it's 4 removed and 3 added in this particular case, so it should work out? |
| 20:11:38 | speachy | I think so. We talked about embedding the checksum of the language file into the voicefile or something like that. |
| 20:15:00 | speachy | I do want to try and batch together things that trigger the need for translation updates |
| 20:17:05 | speachy | I need to regnerate all of the hibyos-based bootloaders and update images soonish. I added variable timeouts and some other QoL stuffs a while back but never did update things |
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| 20:25:01 | speachy | I wonder if it's realistic to try and get a release done by the end of the year? |
| 20:25:42 | speachy | On the infra side we should be all good to go; I did a pipeline flush a few months back |
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| 20:50:43 | speachy | MajorChanges pages now brought up-to-date as of 2024/11/07 |
| 20:53:10 | dconrad | if I can get g#6132 and g#6133 merged, new bootloaders put up on the downloads site, I think that's ready to go |
| 20:53:16 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #6132 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/6132 : erosqnative hw1/hw2: Check for DAC in bootloader by Dana Conrad |
| 20:53:16 | rb-bluebot | Gerrit review #6133 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/6133 : erosqnative: Repurpose stereosw_select setting for output select by Dana Conrad |
| 20:54:32 | dconrad | that is, if that's whats keeping erosqnative from getting to stable |
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| 21:46:30 | VanIsBadAtNames | I have Rockbox installed on a Sansa Fuze+ and keep running into weird bugs and I wanna be sure if it's just me dealing with them or if it's a problem with the Fuze+ itself |
| 21:47:07 | VanIsBadAtNames | Just now I tried plugging it in and it threw me a panic message for some reason. Its unresponsive and I can't even power cycle, I have to wait for it to die |
| 21:47:32 | VanIsBadAtNames | Similar thing happened a few days ago (when it all started) where it went into panic mode just because I tried running something off a playlist and again, I had to let the battery run out |
| 21:48:38 | VanIsBadAtNames | Whenever this happens and I have to let the battery run out when I turn it back on it makes this weird glitchy hiss noise whenever I try using headphones. I have to turn it off, boot into the default OS, then turn it off again and boot into Rockbox for it to go away |
| 21:50:03 | VanIsBadAtNames | All of these problems started on Friday, I don't know what caused them and can't find anything that would help me. Most people having any similar issues aren't running on a Sansa Fuze+. Part of me wants to just get an Aigo Eros Q or an iPod Classic instead but I don't know if this is the Fuze's problem or if I screwed something up |
| 21:50:07 | VanIsBadAtNames | Can anyone help me with this? |
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| 22:47:36 | speachy | obvious question: did you do anything to it on Friday (eg updated software) or did it just start happening? |
| 22:48:10 | VanIsBadAtNames | It just kinda started happening |
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| 22:49:19 | VanIsBadAtNames | I did update it and reinstall the bootloader but that was after things Started Happening |
| 22:49:34 | speachy | Odds are that the flash contents are corrupted −− potentially because it's simply wearing out. |
| 22:50:12 | speachy | (would be informative to compare the firmware zip file contents with what's actually on the device's .rockbox directory. |
| 22:52:06 | speachy | ...that is the fate that will eventually befall all players with onboard flash. |
| 22:53:25 | speachy | depending on the vintage of the bootloader on that thing it would support booting rockbox off of the SD card instead. |
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| 23:05:34 | VanIsBadAtNames | Oh I see, that's a big help actually thanks |
| 23:05:38 | VanIsBadAtNames | I |
| 23:05:41 | VanIsBadAtNames | Oops ente key |
| 23:05:48 | VanIsBadAtNames | I'll look into that as soon as I get the chance to |
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| 23:58:33 | VanIsBadAtNames | So I uh |
| 23:58:48 | VanIsBadAtNames | Couldn't find anything about booting Rockbox from the SD card for the Sansa Fuze+ specifically |
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