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#rockbox log for 2025-01-08

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08:04:30rb-bluebotimx233: Fix clkctrl for STMP3600 variants (creativezenv) by Solomon Peachy
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09:33:58rb-bluebotbuilds: Add 'Creative Zen V' as an unusable target by Solomon Peachy
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09:47:06rb-bluebotRevert "Toolchains: Update to GCC 9.5.0" by Solomon Peachy
09:49:31speachyI swear, I'm gonna have to take away my direct commit rights....
09:50:07speachy(pushed from the wrong working tree..)
09:50:14gevaertsAny programmer's worst enemy is this idiot often referred to as "self"
09:51:00speachydoesn't help that every one of my trees apparently has a large "post-4.0" patchset cooking in it
09:51:31speachyAnyway. The Creative Zen V target now builds the firmware (w/o plugins) and bootloader cleanly.
09:51:58speachyboth added to the dev build set
09:52:39speachyAnd that "Up-Tech" mp3 player takes "shovelware" to a whole new level.
09:52:44speachy"up to 4 hours playback time" :D
09:52:56gevaertsFancy!
09:52:59speachy...when even those $20 shovelware players are too featureful
09:53:29_bilgus_I did that last week had experimental stuff that I pushed, incomplete I might add then didn't realize till I went and looked back at the source and had to remake the whole thing because I deleted everything once I pushed it
09:55:20_bilgus_so you know how you fix the UI on something like that? stickers.
09:55:40speachyMA8/MA9 family also has (kludged) keymaps on plugins
09:56:26_bilgus_I suspect this probably qualifies as a unstable target?
09:56:56speachythe Zen V wasn't acually listed at all, I shoved it onto the 'Unusable' list.
09:57:11speachy(and that's when I accidently pushed the GCC 9.5 patch)
09:57:13_bilgus_oh so that what we can do with devices we haven't tested yet put them all into unstable?
09:58:04_bilgus_then pull them back out as (or if) we get reports otherwise
09:58:28speachythe disticntion between "stable" and "unstable" is more to do with supporting infrastructure −− rbutil support, manual, that sort of thing.
09:58:54speachyeg there have been "unstable" targets that are subjectively more stable/reliable than certian "stable" ones.
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09:59:07_bilgus_ok could we maybe make a new distinction then? UNTESTED
09:59:35speachyeh, that's more work for us (==me?)
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10:00:30_bilgus_I figure that or just downright remove them from tree but that seems extreme
10:00:47speachythey're not really a maintenance burden, unlike hwcodec/archos.
10:01:08_bilgus_thats true but they could easily turn into one..
10:01:18speachystuff that doesn't even _compile_ shouldn't be in but the uplift to fix the Zen V was less than trying to remove it. :D
10:02:10speachyhonestly the 2MB targets are more of a burden
10:02:37speachyand then there's the complexity of dual/remote displays
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10:04:36_bilgus_there simply can't be many of those left after 4.0 they are going
10:05:21_bilgus_my 8mb clipzip is showing its age I bet they are worse
10:05:24speachyI'm also inclined to scrap any non-expandable flash-based device that's not an ipod
10:05:56_bilgus_yeah same thing there can't be many left
10:08:36speachybut I consider it likely we'll end up with some 4MB targets −− maybe those ESP32s with PSRAM (eg that tangara) or those semi-shovelware devices based on repurposed "featurephone" SoCs.
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10:12:21_bilgus_hmm sounds fun
10:12:47_bilgus_they will probably just end up the next 2mb target huh
10:13:03speachywith the difference that they're actually available commercially
10:13:20_bilgus_thats a good attribute
10:13:40speachy4MB will only be limited with respect to the plugin selection
10:13:53speachy2MB loses numerous codecs and other features
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13:05:22MarcAndersenWhat is the difference between the zenvision and zenvisionm30gb? They both show up as Creative Zen Vision:M 30GB
13:06:17MarcAndersenAnd why are some of them called creativezen* and some just zen*?
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13:11:54speachymy guess is that things started as creativezen* but as the model names got longer and longer 'creative' was dropped.
13:12:15speachyWikipedia has a pretty long rundown of the model series.
13:13:07speachyVision and Vision:M are distinct models with very different form factors
13:13:32MarcAndersenBut the vision shows as Creative Zen Vision:M 30GB
13:14:01speachyin what context?
13:14:12MarcAndersenIn the simulator at least
13:16:05speachythey have very distinct bitmaps
13:16:34MarcAndersenThe title of the window says Creative Zen Vision:M 30GB at least with my screen reader
13:18:15speachyhere it shows up correctly; maybe the script that builds the sims is not distinguishing between them properly?
13:21:30speachythe vision is a landscape device, 3.7" screen and is more geared towards video. vision:M is a more "traditional" portrait-oriented device, 2.5" screen.
13:21:41MarcAndersenHmm. It's no big deal btw it doesn't really matter
13:22:08speachydoing those sim builds manually it seems to be correct, fwiw
13:36:43MarcAndersenI don't think the script sets the title of the window, it just builds what it needs to from builds.pm.
13:37:42speachyin builds.pm they're distinct, so dunno
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14:02:36afearfultravelerHey! you might remember me from last night :) I corrupted the files in my iPod by transferring too much without being in disk mode :(( Now, I can't make any changes to the OS! I investigated and there's literally 10Gib of storage of 128Gib that disappeard when I do fdisk -l !!! It's rougly the size of my current music library!
14:03:02afearfultraveler(oops it was not last night lol, more 2d ago)
14:03:34afearfultravelerOkay so fast forward, I tried to fill the disk with /dev/zero using dd and it DIDN'T change anything
14:04:15afearfultravelerI was convinced it would do something. It's so weird because the iPods is functionning correctly aside from that: I can connect it to itunes, I just can't add anything, delete anything etC...
14:05:05afearfultravelerDo you thing i'll have to open it 0_0 ? I bought it from a modder so I didn't have to tinker with my slippery hands but if it comes to that :((
14:06:29afearfultraveler- I'm using an Ipod Video 5'th Gen
14:06:29afearfultraveler- I'm using a 128Gib iFlash adapter
14:06:29afearfultraveler- I was able to transfer FLACs file onto it, and it suddenly stopped working. I did not know about disk mode at the time
14:06:29DBUGEnqueued KICK afearfultraveler
14:06:29afearfultraveler- When I click to play a file (in the file browser of Rockbox), instead of the name there's some alphanumerical (probably some binary data travelling where it shouldn't be!!)
14:06:29afearfultraveler- I'm using the daily build
14:09:04afearfultravelerholup i'm going to run fsck.fat on it :) will post the output on pastebin :DD
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14:10:06afearfultraveler- I also forgot to mention that the files somehow still on the iPod are completely playable with mpv lol
14:12:30afearfultravelerhttps://pastebin.com/raw/HLWbbeGj
14:12:46afearfultravelerHere, I just ran some basic check, but I doubt it will be of interest.
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15:36:07_bilgusafearfultraveler, Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt.
15:36:17_bilgusthat will make the drive read-only
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15:36:50_bilgusyou need to remove the dirty bit at the very least but likely its got some corruption too
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15:37:58_bilgusonce you gt that working you shouldn't need to go to disk mode (assuming the latest dev version)
15:39:33afearfultravelerokay :), I will try... how can I check if the dirty bit has been correctly removed?
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15:42:43afearfultravelerokay I just removed the dirty bit with fsck.fat :) I will umount and remount then try to make a mutation to the disk
15:45:36afearfultravelerhttps://pastebin.com/raw/FbMmTYaA
15:46:18afearfultraveler_bilgus, I ran the tool, ejected the drive to it told me it was ok on disk mode and i can't get rid of the dirty bit
15:47:12_bilguseven if you select Remove dirty bit (1)?
15:48:20afearfultraveleryes :))) in the pastebin I selected remove dirty bit and then unmounted/remounted, nothing changed
15:48:53_bilgus^in that pastebin you selected 2 NOaction
15:49:51afearfultravelerreally ? https://pastebin.com/raw/FbMmTYaA
15:50:51_bilgusno orry I was ref you first link HLW...
15:51:40afearfultravelerit's reassuring I thought I was super dumb for a moment ahahaha
15:51:41_bilgusWhen I've had that happen I was able to recover in all cases except 1 and that was HW failure
15:52:01_bilgusgive me a moment I'll see if I left notes
15:59:40_bilgusI didn't unfortunately do you have gparted?
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16:02:04afearfultraveleris it the live usb key partition tool?
16:07:18_bilgusgparted is a gui disk editor
16:07:34_bilgusyou should be able to selec usb drives in it too
16:08:01afearfultravelerokay installing it :) brb
16:08:11_bilgusit might be that your fsck version is old and cant do it
16:09:04afearfultravelerfsck from util-linux 2.40.2
16:10:06afearfultravelerokay I'm in Gparted with /dev/sda selected, I format resize or run a secret trick :))
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16:12:16afearfultravelerhttps://i.imgur.com/0LXuO9D.png
16:13:39_bilgusits smelling like hardware failure
16:13:56_bilguslike it hit a bad spot in the flash and its kaput
16:14:35afearfultraveler:( sooo replace just the SD card or the whole SD card?
16:14:39afearfultravelersorry im tired
16:14:45afearfultraveler*the sd card or the iflash
16:15:12_bilgusif you type fsck −−? what does it return?
16:15:17_bilgusthe sd card likely..
16:16:45afearfultraveleruhgm _bilgus can you give more information about the command, fsck.fat −− /dev/sda2 ?
16:18:09_bilguswhat about it?
16:18:28afearfultravelerokay so it's what I have to run :) understood, here's the output
16:18:28afearfultraveler"fsck.fat 4.2 (2021-01-31)
16:18:29afearfultravelerFAT size is zero."
16:18:40afearfultravelerthat is NOT good
16:18:41afearfultravelerahahah
16:18:58_bilgusthe version is the same as what I have
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16:21:38_bilgusIDK one of these linux pros might have some ideas
16:22:17afearfultravelerThanks a lot for your help _bilgus ! I can't wait to have it worked :( this christmas gift I bought myself was a hell of a ride
16:23:19_bilgusbut it really sounds like the card has gone bad
16:24:26afearfultravelerSo I have a little disability that makes me not very proficient with my hands (trouble writing, doing manual stuff). I'm very dyspraxic so on a scale of 1 to 10 do you know if it's hard to replace ?
16:25:27afearfultravelerIf it's too hard I'll ask my sister ehehe, she's the opposite of me :D
16:28:02_bilgusI really don't do ipods we have at least 3 devs that do though
16:28:32afearfultravelerI watched a video eheheh I'm fucked x)
16:28:45afearfultravelerthat's funny but I can manage if it's my only option anyways
16:28:46_bilgusthey should be along at some point if you don't have time to wait you can check out IRC logs or put a post on the forum
16:29:56speachycould also be somehting as prosaic as the card coming loose. but yeah, fat size of 0 means soemthing is severely corrupted.
16:29:57_bilguslogs >https://www.rockbox.org/irc/
16:30:45_bilgus^linux pro and has touched an ipod^
16:31:47afearfultravelerI don't come to IRC often but I love the vibe. I only come every 2weeks to talk to my hacker friend another server :) I always learn something with him !
16:32:08afearfultravelerdoing those kind of research makes me want to stick around ehehe :)
16:34:20afearfultravelerookay good night guys, much love and hopefully I can have this working this week-end :)
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