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15.52.34 #       <irony> hello
15.56.49 #       <Zagor> hi
16.08.03 #       <irony> hey Zagor 
16.08.15 #       <irony> you have insight into gpm and usb mice=
16.08.26 #       <irony> i just cant get my mouse to work in console
16.08.27 #       <Zagor> not much, i'm afraid
16.08.56 #       <irony> ok :/
16.09.11 #       <irony> well off I go into the sun, while gnome2 is compiling =)
16.09.15 #       <Zagor> hehe
16.10.14 #       <irony> btw my jb died the other day .(
16.10.17 #       <irony> it wont react
16.10.27 #       <irony> i think ther eis something wrong with the disk
16.10.32 #       <Zagor> oh? really dead?
16.10.33 #       <irony> i disassembled it
16.10.53 #       <irony> i figured i'd get a adaptor to connect the drive directly into the pc
16.10.56 #       <irony> try to fix it
16.11.06 #       <irony> cause right now it just starts and dies
16.11.18 #       <Zagor> have you charged the batteries externally?
16.11.21 #       <irony> with usb cable it plugs in, it's no but the drive letter won't show up
16.11.30 #       <irony> nope, they have been inside all the time
16.11.45 #       <Zagor> try that, if you can. it could be something with the charger
16.11.59 #       <irony> but it doenst work even when attacked
16.12.04 #       <irony> attached
16.12.22 #       <Zagor> yes but the power cable only charges the batteries, it doesn't power the unit
16.12.29 #       <irony> oh really?
16.12.34 #       <irony> didnt know that ./
16.12.34 #       <Zagor> so if you have bad batteries attaching the power cable doesn't help
16.13.01 #       <Hadaka> well, with the recorder, the power cable powers to unit as well - but it doesn't give enough power to spin up the HD
16.13.33 #       <irony> k
16.13.35 #       <Zagor> Hadaka: does it really?
16.13.42 #       <irony> it does show "JukeBox version 5.03"
16.13.46 #       <irony> and then shuts down
16.13.51 #       <Hadaka> Zagor: yes
16.13.54 #       <Zagor> irony: sounds like a power problem
16.14.08 #       <Hadaka> Zagor: the unit runs with batteries removed totally
16.14.25 #       <Hadaka> Zagor: just debugged these things with Linus before he went on vacation
16.14.27 #       <irony> omg what have i done
16.14.33 #       <irony> i have disassembled it
16.14.34 #       <Zagor> Hadaka: ok
16.14.36 #       <irony> i just found the prob
16.15.03 #       <irony> the charger needed a 2 mm push to be properly connected to the outlet
16.15.09 #       <irony> gotta assemble it again
16.15.12 #       <Zagor> hehe
16.15.12 #       <irony> geez...im stupid
16.28.47 #       <irony> Zagor: to mount in linux
16.28.51 #       <irony> is it /dev/sda7 ?
16.29.36 #       <irony> ah figured it out, it was sda1
16.29.51 #       <Zagor> cat /proc/partitions
16.30.17 #       <Hadaka> /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 :)
16.30.20 #       <irony> with devfs, only the found devices shouw up in dev, right?
16.30.27 #       <Hadaka> yup
16.30.28 #       <Zagor> irony: yup
16.30.29 #       <Hadaka> or
16.30.29 #       <irony> ok
16.30.34 #       <Hadaka> atleast for the long names
16.30.40 #       <Hadaka> not so necessarily for short names
16.30.43 #       <irony> thats why i got sda and sda1 only
16.30.45 #       <irony> Hadaka:  ok
16.30.53 #       <irony> its really nice 
16.31.02 #       <Hadaka> well for hd* and sd* - I believe they are there only if found
16.31.08 #       <Hadaka> but for some other stuff, it isn't necessarily so
16.31.12 #       <irony> ok
16.31.24 #       <irony> Hadaka: u have any insight into gpm and usb mice?
16.31.34 #       <Hadaka> not really, don't use either myself
16.31.52 #       <irony> ok =)
16.32.11 #       <irony> well I have decided to try to abandon windows permanently
16.32.13 #       <Zagor> do any of you here suffer from the "corrupted filename" bug?
16.32.21 #       <irony> so yesterday i erased my xp and installed linux =)
16.32.42 #       <irony> Zagor: well i get a strange filename in the rood dir with rockbox
16.32.45 #       <irony> root
16.32.53 #       <Zagor> irony: I never feel the need for mouse in console. I wouldn't worry about it.
16.32.56 #       <irony> a file that isn't there, i believe if i remember it right
16.33.16 #       <Zagor> irony: ok. could you make an image of the first few megs of the disk and dcc it to me?
16.33.19 #       <Hadaka> I have needed a mouse in console, and used it, but not for a while now
16.33.27 #       <Hadaka> not on machines where I always run X
16.33.27 #       <irony> Zagor: I do have a (i think) working config for X, will see as soon as X is compiled
16.33.31 #       <irony> Zagor: sec
16.33.39 #       <irony> ehm
16.33.54 #       <irony> the archos is fat or vfat?
16.34.02 #       <Zagor> vfat
16.34.04 #       <irony> cause i havent long filenames
16.34.05 #       <irony> hmm
16.34.08 #       <Hadaka> fat32 - mount as vfat
16.34.10 #       <irony> i need ot mount properly
16.34.39 #       <Hadaka> mount -t fat -o fat=32
16.34.41 #       <irony> now thats better
16.34.44 #       <irony> yup
16.34.48 #       <irony> -o ?
16.34.48 #       <Hadaka> but vfat is good
16.34.54 #       <Hadaka> autodetects and all
16.34.55 #       <irony> i just use -t fat32
16.35.00 #       <irony> -t vfat i mean
16.35.07 #       <Hadaka> yeah, that's ok
16.35.26 #       <irony> Zagor: want me to try the latest build of rockbox first?
16.35.31 #       <irony> havent tried in a little while
16.35.55 #       <Zagor> irony: no, i haven't changed anything in the fat code
16.36.10 #       <irony> wow heh i got sound in console wee
16.36.11 #       <irony> =)
16.36.18 #       <irony> need amixer
16.36.36 #       <Hadaka> I use aumix for my needs
16.36.47 #       <irony> i am just compiling it
16.36.56 #       <irony> i kinda like gentoo now
16.36.58 #       <irony> =)
16.37.20 #       <irony> some ppl say that one could as well use fbsd with real ports, but still...
16.37.36 #       <Zagor> people say all kinds of things :-)
16.37.41 #       <Hadaka> gentoo is good
16.37.53 #       <Hadaka> thouhg I haven't seen a reason to move away from debian yet
16.37.59 #       <irony> i see
16.38.16 #       <irony> well i had loads of problems with debian yesterday so i figured ill try gentoo
16.38.26 #       <irony> cause i got way too many dependency problems
16.38.36 #       <irony> i did use undstable though =)
16.38.40 #       <Hadaka> funny how people get those
16.38.43 #       <irony> but i wanted kde3
16.38.50 #       <irony> so...
16.39.01 #       <Hadaka> ohh
16.39.07 #       <irony> but now i've seen gnome2 and i think its absolutely great design wise 
16.39.07 #       <irony> =)
16.39.42 #       <irony> ehm it wanted ot emerge xfree-4.2.0 for aumix so i killed it, since i am emerging  x in the other window =)
16.39.56 #       <irony> too bad, wonder why, i figured aumix was console
16.41.01 #       <irony> oh it needs gtk+
16.41.05 #       <irony> hmm
16.41.15 #       <irony> maybe i gots ome graphic aumix
16.41.15 #       <Hadaka> err, aumix doesn't
16.41.23 #       <Hadaka> aumix-gtk does
16.41.31 #       <Hadaka> but that's your gentoo problems if you can't separate those two
16.42.33 #       <irony> =)
16.42.44 #       <irony> i just took a shot and did emerge aumix
16.42.46 #       <irony> =)
16.43.22 #       <irony> what the...
16.44.27 #       <irony> well thats just great
16.44.42 #       <irony> gotta go
16.44.53 #       <Hadaka> bye
16.45.35 #       <irony> bye
16.48.50 #       <Zagor> dwihnos disk uses a bad partition type: 0x69
16.49.16 #       <Zagor> i need to add a check for that
16.50.12 #       <Zagor> Hadaka: do you know the difference btwn types b,c,d,e,f ?
16.50.25 #       <Zagor> c seems to the the most common
16.50.49 #       <Hadaka> hmm
16.51.30 #       <Hadaka> b,c,? or do you mean 0x6b? or what?
16.51.41 #       <Zagor> oh, e is fat16. 
16.51.42 #       <Zagor> f is "Win95 extended" ?
16.51.47 #       <Zagor> no 0x0b and 0x0c
16.51.56 #       <Hadaka> oh
16.52.12 #       <Zagor> both my archos and my win95 disk has 0x0c
16.52.58 #       <Hadaka> b, win95 fat32 - c, win95 fat32 (lba) - e, win95 fat16 (lba) - f, Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
16.53.44 #       <Zagor> yup. the question is will we ever see anything other than 0x0c for rockbox?
16.54.01 #       <Hadaka> hmm
16.54.38 #       <Hadaka> I think a disk as big as that cannot be accessed in any other mode - 0x0b might be the other choice
16.55.10 #       <Hadaka> let's see in a moment what my linux formatter archos looks like
16.55.21 #       <Hadaka> yeah, the same
16.55.25 #       <Zagor> i think i'll check for 0x0c only and see if we get complaints
16.55.33 #       <Hadaka> so I suppose 0x0C is the proper one
16.55.47 #       <Hadaka> do you only check the first partition, or?
16.56.24 #       <Zagor> today I blindly try to mount the first partition
16.56.57 #       <Zagor> i'll add that it searches the four primary slots for 0x0c and mounts it if found
16.58.16 #       <Hadaka> in the (far) future, I'd like to see my archos having a 16 megabyte fat partition which only has the .ajz - and then everything else as some decent filesystem
16.58.54 #       <Zagor> the problem is that all decent filesystems are also more complex filesystems
16.59.06 #       <Zagor> fat32 is pretty straight-forward
16.59.27 #       <Zagor> but, sure, it's possible
17.00.06 #       <Hadaka> well the thing is - that for what archos would need, even iso9660 as a filesystem would do :)
17.00.57 #       <Zagor> i don't know much about iso9660. isn't it limited to 8+3? (without extensions)
17.00.57 #       <Hadaka> so what would be wanted is a filesystem that would be somehow writeable, would carry all unix information needed - and would survive crashes without a hinch
17.01.04 #       <Hadaka> yes
17.01.14 #       <Hadaka> and you can't really do a read-write iso9660
17.01.19 #       <Zagor> ok
17.01.20 #       <Hadaka> the files are just stacked one after another
17.07.31 #       <Hadaka> mistäköhän mä löytäsin jonkun IGS protokolla kuvauksen
17.07.43 #       <Zagor> wrong windows? :)
17.08.06 #       <Hadaka> argh, yes
17.14.14 #       <Zagor> ah, dwihno's image was not the disk only the partition. bah.
17.14.18 #       <Zagor> silly me
17.14.36 #       <Hadaka> oof - might explain some stuff :P
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19.02.47 #       <Linus> Hola!
19.03.54 #       <Linus> modem link from my little island...
19.04.06 #       <Linus> laptop....mirc...
19.04.27 #       <Linus> but still coding rockbox
19.04.54 #       <Linus> nope, i havent done anything on that one
19.05.03 #       <Linus> i have added stack overflow checking
19.05.49 #       <Linus> i had some probs with PPP and stuff so i havent committed anything yet
19.06.04 #       <Linus> how´s the FAT problem going?
19.06.35 #       <Linus> baaah
19.07.01 #       <Linus> silly Windows tools...
19.07.55 #       <Linus> great work, the RTC saving stuff...
19.09.25 #       <Linus> i am so puzzled by the pitch problem on the Studio´s...
19.09.52 #       <Linus> i wish i had it on my player, so i could debug it
19.11.46 #       <Linus> especially when it changes when altering the volume
19.13.01 #       <Linus> so when do you think we want to freeze 1.2?
19.15.15 #       <Linus> and i want to fix the charger
19.15.30 #       <Linus> bit it´s not far away
19.20.49 #       <Linus> i want a way of showing the batttery status on the Recorder
19.21.07 #       <Linus> like a status bar, similar to the stock firmware
19.21.16 #       <Linus> maybe configurable
19.22.10 #       <Linus> well, time to hang up
19.22.22 #       <Linus> cu in a few...
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19.57.58 #       <alexgit1> I can send beginning of my HD.
20.01.32 #       <irony> i forgot to send
20.01.33 #       <irony> heh
20.01.37 #       <irony> alexgit1: u get the error too?=
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21.20.40 #       <Zagor> bah, finally my isp wakes up again :-(
21.20.54 #       <Zagor> ah, good! are you using windows or linux?
21.22.07 #       <Zagor> hmm, do you know any program that will allow you to make a binary copy of the first few megs of your harddisk?
21.23.02 #       <Zagor> yes, 'dd' can do that if cygwin gives you proper /dev entries?
21.23.20 #       <Zagor> such as /dev/hda
21.23.32 #       <Zagor> ok
21.23.42 #       <Zagor> try rawrite, maybe it can do it
21.24.37 #       <Zagor> dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img bs=1M count=8
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21.30.24 #       <alexgit> HI,
21.30.34 #       <alexgit> I can send my harddrive data
21.30.57 #       <alexgit> to fix fat problem
21.31.23 #       <Zagor> good. can you make an image of the first 16 megs, zip it hard and dcc it to me?
21.31.57 #       <Zagor> mecraw: ok, nice. i need both your data.
21.32.09 #       <alexgit> I can do it later tonight (my time) as I am at work now.
21.32.18 #       <Zagor> ok
21.32.34 #       <alexgit> There is other funny problem
21.32.40 #       <Zagor> mecraw: give me those 8 megs and lets see if it's enough. i'm not sure how much I need.
21.32.49 #       <alexgit> It seems to show something like JoanJettAnd...
21.33.11 #       <alexgit> Inside there are some mp3 that came with Archos original fm
21.33.34 #       <alexgit> There is no way for that stuff to be on the drive
21.33.54 #       <alexgit> As I filled 96% of it and defragmented
21.34.12 #       <alexgit> Windows don't show it either
21.34.40 #       <Zagor> interesting. it's probably the same bug.
21.35.08 #       <alexgit> Could it be stored in rom somewhere?
21.35.17 #       <Zagor> there seems to be a problem. maybe it's my nat box playing tricks. hang on...
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21.35.36 #       <Zagor> alexgit: no, it's likely just bad directory entries
21.35.50 #       <Zagor> ok
21.36.05 #       <Hadaka> oh btw, for the record dosfsck (or fsck.vfat) is excellent for fixing directory stuff if you are running linux
21.36.09 #       <Zagor> hmm, do you have an ftp or http server we can take it through?
21.36.55 #       <Hadaka> except that it couldn't fix this one problem where one of my directories does not happen to have the "." or ".." entries - it doesn't hurt me in any way though
21.46.11 #       <Zagor> mecraw: "This folder is currently empty."
21.46.58 #       <Zagor> i have an id and it says i'm logged in.
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21.47.18 #       <Zagor> spamninja2001 :)
21.47.54 #       <Zagor> ah, got it
21.52.44 #       <Zagor> mecraw: what was the command line you used to make this?
21.54.46 #       <Hadaka> hmmh, zagor needs the dump from the start of the whole drive, not just the partition
21.54.47 #       <Zagor> it doesn't include the MBR, but then e: wouldn't contain that.
21.54.55 #       <Zagor> actually just the partition works too
21.55.06 #       <Zagor> i've modified the fat test code to handle it
21.55.40 #       <Zagor> but the image is too small :(
21.56.46 #       <Zagor> I need up to block 0x4b00...
21.57.52 #       <Zagor> the images that don't work put the root dir wayyyy out in the middle of the disk :-(
22.08.07 #       <Zagor> mecraw: can you do the same but with 16 megs?
22.08.44 #       <Zagor> the root dir on your partition is located just beyond 8 meg
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22.08.59 #       <Zagor> dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img bs=1M count=16
22.09.16 #       <Zagor> just use count=16 instead of count=8 on your last line
22.10.27 #       <Zagor> looks good
22.15.19 #       <Zagor> hehe
22.16.40 #       <Zagor> crap
22.17.16 #       <Zagor> sure, if it's a pure binary split
22.23.37 #       <irony> back back
22.23.46 #       <irony> Zagor: u vanted the first megs
22.23.50 #       <irony> Zagor: how do i do it
22.24.09 #       <Zagor> dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img bs=1M count=16
22.24.11 #       <irony> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/tmp/file.dat
22.24.15 #       <irony> hehe
22.24.19 #       <irony> good guess then
22.24.20 #       <irony> =)
22.24.29 #       <Hadaka> gah!
22.24.34 #       <Hadaka> very different
22.24.42 #       <Hadaka> always /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1
22.25.08 #       <irony> aha
22.25.12 #       <irony> but hey it was a guess
22.26.01 #       <irony> =)
22.26.20 #       <irony> Zagor: here it comes
22.26.52 #       <Zagor> ok
22.27.14 #       <irony> dcc
22.27.32 #       <irony> getting it?
22.27.34 #       <Zagor> "no route to host"
22.27.40 #       <irony> eh?
22.27.44 #       <irony> wicked
22.28.08 #       <irony> well....
22.29.04 #       <Zagor> uhhh, my harddisk is spewing errors! time for a replacement...
22.29.53 #       <irony> Zagor: ill mail it to bjor@haxx.se then
22.30.05 #       <irony> n
22.30.12 #       <Zagor> how big is it?
22.30.31 #       <irony> isnt 1M 1 mb
22.30.45 #       <Zagor> yes. but please gzip -9 it first
22.31.30 #       <Zagor> this is scary reboot time.
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22.31.45 #       <irony> zure
22.32.25 #       <irony> 16777206 bytes
22.32.58 #       <irony> ehm is gzip -9 supposed to take this long
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22.53.08 #       <Linus> yo!
22.53.52 #       <Linus> sort of... :-)
22.54.16 #       <Linus> vacation for me is to do what i want when i want
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22.59.14 #       <Linus> don't know...
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23.39.15 #       <Linus> i am working on stack overflow detection for the threads
23.41.26 #       <Linus> :-)