--- Log for 19.07.102 Server: Not connected Channel: None joined --- Nick: No nick Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 0 seconds ago 14.47.57 *** Started Dancer V4.16p1 14.47.57 *** Connected to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 14.47.57 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 14.47.59 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 14.47.59 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 14.47.59 Join logbot [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.47.59 Join matp [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 14.47.59 Join Zagor|out [0] (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 14.47.59 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 14.47.59 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-23-221.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 14.47.59 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@pool-151-204-140-140.ny325.east.verizon.net) 14.47.59 Join datazone [0] ([IyXJi78Lm@207.136.36.203) 14.47.59 Join Tumm [0] (coyote@mysko.net) 14.47.59 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-178.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 14.47.59 Join wettoad [0] (~wettoad@uludag.mbi-berlin.de) 14.47.59 Join mecraw|sleeping [0] (~mecraw@63.172.39.2) 14.47.59 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 14.47.59 Join geoffeg [0] (~geoffeg@216.196.223.237) 14.47.59 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 14.47.59 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 14.47.59 Join dwihno|gone0r [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 14.49.45 Join yro [0] (~yves@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 15.09.19 # If the feature name is 'autoplay', i'd suggest /autoplay.m3u 15.10.59 # and storing the autoplay bit in the first bit of 0x10 of the config block 15.11.06 # which the patch actually does: 15.11.09 # + rtc_config_block[0x10] = (unsigned char)global_settings.autoplay; 15.11.20 # it just documents it differently: 15.11.20 # +0x11 0x25 15.11.56 # => away 15.49.26 Quit adiamas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.15 Join dug [0] (~dug@ppp-158.net-202.magic.fr) 15.51.22 # hello everybody 15.55.24 # Hi there 15.58.30 # i'm visite your site 15.59.23 # and i'm very interesting 15.59.40 # Hes: Yep, you're right, I'm wrong in the doc... 15.59.54 # dug: You own a player ? 16.01.21 # yes... i have a Recorder 20 16.01.48 # dug: Have you tried it ? 16.02.27 # dug: I mean, rockbox on it ;-) 16.02.49 # and i wonder if i have to change it width Archos Multimedia (sorry for my english, i'm french) 16.03.18 # yes i'm tried it, and it's very cool... and your firmware also :) 16.03.52 # but, you work with version Multimedia ? 16.03.55 # dug: Not mine, I'm just on the channel right now ;-) 16.04.06 # :) 16.04.21 # dug: The Multimedia version is already out ? 16.04.34 # (Im french too ;-)) 16.05.00 # :)) et ben je cause francais si cela ne t'embete pas ;) 16.05.35 # en faite, je viens de voir que cette plateforme pouvait etre programmer (j'suis programmeur) 16.06.06 # et j'hesite a l'echanger avec la version Multimedia, vu qu'il y a plus de possibilité de dev dessus 16.07.10 # yro: quand penses tu ? 16.13.20 # yro->busy 16.33.59 Quit yro ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.5 -- Are we there yet?") 16.34.23 Nick mecraw|sleeping is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@63.172.39.2) 16.43.11 Join Linus [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 16.43.30 # Hi, Linus! 16.43.47 # yo! 16.44.08 # I think I'm having trouble with the changes you made to mpeg.c yesterday 16.44.17 # mecraw: please tell me 16.44.19 # songs stop playing after about 6 seconds 16.44.26 # ah! hang on 16.44.45 # 6???? 16.45.02 # i believe so, let me build it again and check it 16.45.19 # mecraw: recorder? 16.45.28 # yep, rec 20 16.46.12 # what bitrate? 16.46.22 # vbr 16.46.35 # between 160 and 210 16.47.38 # ok 16.47.55 # i have had a similar problem, but after about a minute 16.47.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.55.11 # 6 seconds on a vbr (193 kbit avg) 16.56.00 # does your hard drive take long to spin up? 16.56.44 # what is long? and how do i tell? 16.57.11 # :-) never mind 16.57.35 # i'll have a fix for that in a few 17.01.25 # 193kbit avr, that high! :-) 17.01.46 # yep 17.02.12 # the next one last 5 seconds and was 201kbit avr 17.02.50 # bye bye everybody... good job for your firmware 17.02.54 Join fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc1-guil4-0-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 17.02.59 # funky 17.05.23 # mecraw: what happens if you set MPEG_FIRST_CHUNKSIZE to 0x30000? 17.06.26 # i'll check 17.09.47 # it's at 40 seconds and still going 17.12.05 # 201kbit avg stopped after 71 seconds 17.13.53 # ok, we need to raise the low water mark for you 17.14.00 # 193kbit avg stopped after 73 seconds 17.14.50 # do we need to calculate it based on avg bitrate? 17.15.22 # we could, to optimize buffer usage 17.16.24 Part dug 17.16.52 # when you start a song, how long does the last blink take? 17.18.16 # mecraw: sorry, i have to run now. i'll be back! 17.18.20 Part Linus 17.18.21 # about 5 seconds 17.34.06 Join liam_ [0] (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 17.39.28 Nick liam_ is now known as jedix` (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 17.58.44 Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.59.17 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 17.59.33 Topic "Rock the box! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/" by Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 18.05.47 Join aakil [0] (~anon007@adsl-63-195-51-251.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 18.25.10 # mecraw: i like the idea of your patch. i reckon i'd use something like that 18.25.29 # i was wondering if i was the only one 18.43.50 Quit aakil () 18.48.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.51.01 # I was sat in the car last night, and a song came on that I hadn't heard for years. Of course, then I wanted to play the whole album 18.51.55 # and had to fiddle around loads. i wonder if we could play the album from the beginning. 18.52.47 # not without searching id3 tags or knowing the naming convention 18.54.29 # another usability issue is where do we start the playlist from when the user switches back to shuffle? 18.55.07 # i have "playlist.m3u" in each album directory ... 18.55.52 # i'm thinking of going back to the last shuffled song and going to the next song in the shuffled list 18.55.53 # start from where it was previously 18.56.10 # yes, what does it do now? 18.56.41 # it finds the seek position of the song it was just playing, and then advances in the list 18.57.25 # this could theoretically put you at a point in the shuffled list that you've already heard 18.57.57 # im not sure i understand. it reshuffles ? 18.59.34 # it reshuffles using the original seed 19.00.18 # when it switches shuffle mode, i look up the current seek position in the index list... 19.00.21 Join Lovechild [0] (~david@pc193015.stofanet.dk) 19.00.30 # then sort it, or shuffle it accordingly... 19.00.54 # then loop through the list looking for that seek position and set the index to that position 19.03.05 # i am being thick. how could you be in a position that you'd already heard? 19.04.26 # you switch shuffle mode off and listen for awhile, and eventually get to a song that you already heard in shuffle mode, then you switch shuffle back on... 19.04.48 # you will be back at an earlier point in the shuffled list 19.07.32 # yes, it should store the seek position of the song that was playing when you switched off shuffle 19.08.07 # then advance from there when you switch shuffle back on 19.08.41 # i agree 19.09.43 # phew, i'm glad we sorted that out :) 19.10.18 # i was thinking of waiting to update the patch until the first one is incorporated into cvs, if it ever is 19.10.54 # it's a great feature anyway. i really would like to default to first entry in playlist.m3u in the current directory though 19.11.08 # * Lovechild is away: - diner 19.11.25 # you sound like you think it might not be accepted into the build 19.12.08 # i'm just a humble servant to the cvs committers of the Rockbox world 19.13.07 # my problem with the playlist.m3u is that it's not a convention that everyone else employs 19.13.48 # including me :) 19.13.54 # sure, maybe it could be an option. 19.14.12 # what do you call them. i use grip, and it defaults to playlist.m3u 19.14.59 # but you're right. people may name them differently for each album. 19.15.29 # i don't have a playlist for each album... i just name the tracks - title - artist - album.mp3 and play the directory when i want to hear a specific album 19.16.11 # i see 19.16.52 # maybe they could be played in alphabetical order... 19.17.51 # that basically means switching out of playlist mode altogether, and going into directory mode 19.18.24 # the manual solution is to turn off shuffle and hit back a few times until you're at the first song 19.19.17 # sure, but i'm as lazy as you are, so I know you know what I mean :) 19.19.43 # aren't all programmers lazy? 19.20.48 # most definitely. well, i gotta go. i'm just finishing work. 19.20.57 # bye 19.21.00 # i may see you later tonight. 19.21.25 # probably not 19.21.32 Nick matp is now known as matp|work|away (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 19.22.13 # i'll be in internet exile for the next few weeks 19.23.54 # going on holiday? 19.24.06 # switching jobs and moving 19.24.17 # more java? 19.24.21 # yep 19.24.30 # more money? 19.24.37 # no, but less hours 19.25.12 # you lazy programmer, you!! 19.25.26 # it's time to try to have a life 19.25.54 # speaking of which.....im outta here 19.26.00 # or at least put more time towards rockbox :) 19.37.02 # * Lovechild is back 20.08.06 # * Lovechild is away: phone 20.18.41 Join Linus [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 20.19.36 # yo! 20.21.28 # hi linus 20.22.05 # whazzup? 20.22.25 # packing... haven't written a line of code today :-( 20.22.37 # what a drag 20.25.00 # fixed the playpack problem? 20.25.59 # you mean the low watermark ? 20.26.18 # yeah, if that's what causes the 5sec stop reported in mail 20.27.04 # * Lovechild is back 20.28.09 # yes it is. since the whole buffer is filled before the bitswap, the first chunk of loaded data is played before the bitswap begins on the large chunk 20.28.31 # so we need to load a larger chunk before playback starts 20.28.35 # ah, good. i just didn't see the cvs mail 20.28.49 # it isn't committed 20.28.52 # ok 20.29.00 # i am doing a "better" fix 20.29.03 # are you back home now? 20.29.39 # no, not until sunday evening 20.29.46 # ok 20.30.51 # the battery/volume/play status on the player works quite fine now 20.31.41 # but i had to stop the work on that until i have fixed the pplayback 20.31.55 # ok 20.32.17 # we probably want to calculate the watermark dynamically 20.33.12 # yup 20.44.04 # Linus: have you seen the effect Stuart mentioned, about there being too many NEED_DATA messages sent? 20.44.10 # look at, i mean 20.44.19 # looked, even. gh... 20.44.38 # yes i have seen it, but i haven't given it any thought 20.44.39 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|skating (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 20.45.06 # does stuart have gdb? 20.47.00 # i don't think so 20.47.40 # so he saw it in the code? 20.48.03 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 20.51.51 # i'm a little disappointed that people never post any info obout the files they try to play 20.52.10 # Linus: like links :) 20.54.35 # that would of course be the best... 20.58.04 # he saw it, and changed it. but didn't post a patch... 21.02.39 # i am committing a playback fix. it might contain bugs 21.02.52 # ok 21.03.13 # do you have really high bitrate files? 21.03.24 # I have the giana sisters test files we made 21.03.32 # 256 and 320 kbit cbr 21.03.53 # I can even publish them, since they are downloaded from the net 21.04.41 Mode "#rockbox -o Zagor " by Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 21.05.18 # the files that mecraw had were VBR, 192kbit/s average...! 21.05.25 # no wonder he had watermark problems 21.05.29 # yeah I saw, that's pretty high for a vbr 21.06.47 # silly of us. we've always said the recorder is slower, but I only tested the 320kbit on the player 21.07.24 # my new mpeg code requires a higher watermark 21.07.44 Join edx [0] (OKE60@pD9EA91D2.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.07.49 # * edx is back 21.08.08 # yo 21.08.41 # hi edx, your cvsmail address bounced so I have removed it 21.09.27 # playback fix committed, please let me know if it worked. 21.09.42 # i have to put my son to bed, i'll be back later this evening 21.09.47 # ok, bye 21.10.43 Part Linus 21.11.57 Join WetFlax [0] (~wettoad@flax.mbi-berlin.de) 21.17.41 # i bought a fast charger today. yay, it's fast! 1800mAh batteries charge in one hour! 21.20.31 # Zagor: 192kbit avg vbr files are high? 21.21.45 # i just used lame's -r3mix setting when making them 21.22.22 # it's not *that* high, just a bit higher than averagenormal I guess 21.22.30 # ah 21.22.49 # i have some over 200kbit too 21.22.52 # Zagor: yes - server was shut down 21.22.53 # I use the -r3mix setting myself, so you're not exceptional :) 21.23.10 # my mom tell's me everyday that i'm not 21.23.10 # Zagor: I lost my charger :/ what did yours cost? 21.23.34 # it was pretty expensive, since it's an advanced model. about EUR 60 21.23.56 # Zagor: what's the name of the charger? 21.24.20 # "GP PowerBank Smart" 21.24.27 # model no: GPPB01 21.24.56 # thx 21.28.06 # it's an external charger, not for plugging in the archos 21.30.01 # you need a 9 Volt charger for plugging in, right? 21.30.27 # for the recorder, it's not too picky. you can use a 12V for faster charging. 21.32.01 # I do not think the CVS list is working. 21.32.22 # Zagor: without running into danger of damaging it? 21.32.38 # has anyone tried Linus' latest mpeg fix? 21.32.48 # I will try it... 21.32.56 Nick elinenbe|skating is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 21.33.43 # it stops after 73 seconds on a 193kbit avg vbr file 21.33.46 # for me 21.34.09 # elinenbe: I don't know it doesn't work. seems to be a sourceforge problem 21.34.16 # don't know why 21.34.24 # Zagor: I have a rayovac 1 hour charger too -- 4 batteries AA or AAA FULL in 1 hour 21.34.35 # elinenbe: yup, it's very nice 21.34.37 # Zagor: 30 USD 21.35.20 # at least I know it's not a mail problem in my end :) 21.35.42 Nick edx is now known as edx|away (OKE60@pD9EA91D2.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.37.23 Quit WetFlax ("I like core dumps") 21.37.23 # I have a 192kbit 44100Hz song on the recorder, and it is playing fine right now... 21.37.36 # vbr or cbr? 21.37.56 # stopped after 72 seconds 21.38.00 # cbr 21.38.24 # ooh, the cvs list lives 21.39.01 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|food (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 21.49.00 # http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20020617/toshiba.htm 22.06.06 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-106.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 22.06.34 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-106.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 22.29.31 Join g003y [0] (~foo@m198-187.dsl.rawbw.com) 22.39.01 Quit jedix` ("3 more sleeps until work") 22.41.22 # so I think the relative playlist patch is messing up on my jukebox 6000 player. I put the same playlist in the root using the older (pre-relative path patch) and my playlist works fine. I do it with the latest code and the first mp3 doesn't load. I got as far as throwing up some text on the screen and the file has an extra slash and a garbage char prepended to the file after calling playlist_next. Anyway I resorted to the older playlist_next code and 22.48.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.50.31 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.01.26 Join matp [0] (~matp@80.193.180.14) 23.01.47 # hello 23.01.57 # hi 23.02.04 # still at work? 23.02.18 # unfortunately, tieing up loose ends on my last day 23.02.29 # it's on 15:00 here too 23.02.36 # ahh, just sack it off and get yourself down the pub ;) 23.02.50 # that sounds like a plan 23.03.34 # where you based again? 23.03.39 # Denver, CO 23.05.14 # we have an office in boulder. it's meant to be nice round there ... 23.05.14 # i decided to submit my updated patch before taking off 23.05.28 # boulder is a very nice place 23.05.37 # who is "we"? 23.05.41 # to the mailing list? 23.05.46 # yep 23.05.51 # A company called Riversoft 23.06.05 # good, what does the new version do? 23.06.45 # it just remembers your last place in the shuffled list 23.07.27 # great, I'll certainly be trying it out. i'll let you know how it goes 23.07.38 # great, thanks 23.07.54 # your new place in CO as well? 23.08.14 # yep, i have to move from California over the next 2 weeks though 23.10.35 # hmm, I really loved CA when I visited SF. really cool place. 23.10.38 # brb 23.20.15 Quit g003y ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23.35.05 # * mecraw feels Zagor's pain from moving 23.35.18 # See you soon. 23.35.30 Nick mecraw is now known as mecraw|moving (~mecraw@63.172.39.2) 23.41.01 # * matp waves 23.41.17 # * Lovechild waves too 23.43.37 Nick Zagor|food is now known as Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 23.44.09 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@216.194.26.210) 23.44.23 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adiamas@216.194.26.210) 23.47.01 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting")