--- Log for 30.07.102 Server: lerouge.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 10 days and 9 hours ago 00.02.31 # matp: No, not really 00.02.38 # just have tried it up for a few seconds for now 00.03.06 # Done a little recording on the laptop before, with an Edirol UA-5 USB A/D-D/A box 00.03.18 # can the rockbox for recorders record?! 00.03.25 # Not yet 00.03.36 # are u a programmer to?! 00.04.31 # matp: I think the negative delta voltage detection works quite well now 00.04.47 # mistaRx: not yet, no 00.05.07 # will have to try it a few times from a fully discharged condition 00.05.19 # Hes: I have elec and opt digital out on my cd player. i have elec in and opt in on my minidisc. i have a mini-jack to phono lead 00.05.23 # from around 80% it seemed to work 00.06.48 # Hes: now using the minidisc as a DAC with the lead works fine. But when I try and record using the same lead from my cd player, it either doesn't recognise the input, or says something like: "digital copying not allowed" 00.07.37 # Hes: I get diffrent results if I use the left or right phono plug. Do I need a better lead, or is something busted here? 00.08.24 # One phono plug is in, one is out 00.09.12 # seems to be correct with my findings. but I get the weird message. Is this SCMS or something? 00.09.24 # Probably yes. 00.10.13 # seems to be correct with my findings. but I get the weird message. Is this SCMS or something? 00.10.22 # Probably yes. 00.10.27 # sorry. 00.10.50 # Digital recording from the digital output of my Edirol UA-5 did work. 00.11.14 # I meant to say I thought I was allowed to make 1 digital copy (e.g minidisc). after which the SCMS bit is missing, and it legitmately wont copy 00.11.46 # Is this a bug in archos firmware then? 00.12.08 # I don't know, might be. We'll see when we have recording in rockbox 8-) 00.12.12 # if you name a file on the recorder SCMSOFF 00.12.22 # then that will get rid of the copy protection. 00.12.27 # Oooh? 8-) 00.12.31 # really? 00.12.39 # yes! 00.13.03 # even so, I should be able to make ONE copy anyway 00.13.21 # well, I guess it doesn't conform to the standard. 00.13.27 # seems pointless of having a recorder if I cant record my cds 00.13.55 # You're right, you should be able to do so 00.14.04 # It might also be a problem on your CD player too 00.14.05 # Well, another feature we can beat them on :) 00.14.38 # I can make copies to my minidisc OK using optical. i haven't tried electrical yet 00.15.04 # does this file need to appear in the root directory, and is it case sensitive? 00.15.21 # here is the exact directions 00.15.31 # - Record MP3: Before record enter to the destination directory. Then adjust Artist, Album, Title!, Source and Quality. 00.15.31 # - - Start Recording 00.15.31 # - - - Right/Left: Adjust recording level at any moment. 00.15.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK elinenbe 00.15.31 # - - - Play: Start recording. 00.15.31 # - - - F2-Next: Split current recording in a new part. 00.15.32 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.15.32 # - - - F3-Stop: Stop recording. 00.15.34 # - Record MP3: Before record enter to the destination directory. Then adjust Artist, Album, Title!, Source and Quality. 00.15.38 # - - Start Recording 00.15.39 # - - - Right/Left: Adjust recording level at any moment. 00.15.42 # - - - Play: Start recording. 00.15.44 # - - - F2-Next: Split current recording in a new part. 00.15.46 # - - - F3-Stop: Stop recording. 00.15.48 # - Record MP3: Before record enter to the destination directory. Then adjust Artist, Album, Title!, Source and Quality. 00.15.50 # oops sorry 00.15.52 # - - Change Artist: To disable/enable the digital Serial Copyright Management System enter HFSCMSOFF/HFSCMSON in this field and press F1-Enter. 00.16.02 # there you go. 00.17.02 # Bedtime, good night 00.17.11 # goodnight. good work today. 00.17.19 # bye Hes 00.17.23 # night hes 00.17.25 # post a diff to the mailing list -- I want to try it out! 00.17.32 # night 00.18.27 # elinenbe: have you tried it? 00.18.40 # the SCMS that is 00.23.47 # does/will rockbox support remote control?! 00.24.11 # if someone writes the code for it, it will 00.24.49 # and I bet someone will 00.24.50 # .. 00.25.05 # maybe bagder will 00.25.19 # I'm not likely to write that, as I don't have a remote ;-) 00.25.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.25.39 # i gotta split guys. night all 00.25.51 # night matp 00.25.52 # maybe bagder will go out and by a remote an write the code to use it 00.25.58 # hehe 00.26.03 # nightinight 00.26.09 Quit matp ("Client Exiting") 00.28.53 # 556.25 kr for an accesory kit on dustin(the only ones that have it in sweden I think.. 00.31.39 # just a thought.. 00.32.13 # Björn has a kit, he can do the code ;-) 00.32.35 # well anybody tested the remote, I've heard that it can't turn on the archos, and does it hurt the sound quality?! 00.32.56 # no it doesn't hurt the quality 00.33.14 # it just sends some serial input to the box 00.33.27 # have u tested it(björn is your brother, right?!) 00.34.05 # he's my brother, yes, and yes he has tested it on the stock firmware and I know they worked out how it worked before, so there's some notes on the site about it 00.34.56 # well do u think that the rockbox will be able to turn it on from the remote?! 00.35.14 # no 00.36.10 # but it can turn it on and everything else that the PLAYERS can do with the regualr buttons?! 00.36.18 # turn it off 00.36.36 # yes, I think so 00.39.05 # ok 00.40.20 # is it bad quality..? 00.41.16 # the remote? I don't know 00.45.32 # I have heard it is. 00.47.39 # me too. 00.47.43 # . 00.47.46 # =) 00.52.24 # what about the sony wired remote modding..?! 00.53.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.53.55 # (http://www.geocities.com/notching/Sony-archos-remote.html) 00.54.42 # first of all, where do u get the remote?! 01.00.40 # I'm off to bed, night! 01.00.43 Part Bagder 01.11.11 # night 01.11.13 Quit elinenbe ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 01.23.57 Join masta-Z [0] (mistaX@t3o75p100.telia.com) 01.28.49 # anybody awake?! 01.33.58 Quit mistaRx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.51.21 # ahu.. 02.00.19 # night everybody.. 02.01.50 Quit masta-Z () 02.18.29 Quit datazone (Connection timed out) 02.18.44 Join datazone [0] ([zl7ALdwUL@207.136.36.203) 02.20.08 Quit Tumm (No route to host) 02.39.56 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 02.53.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.31 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 03.25.45 Quit WetFlax ("I like core dumps") 03.50.20 Join elinenbe2 [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 03.50.21 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.55.36 Nick elinenbe2 is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 04.02.35 Join WetFlax [0] (~wettoad@flax.mbi-berlin.de) 04.20.40 Join Mighty [0] (mboss@h76n2fls35o931.telia.com) 04.20.56 # zagor has been offline for several days? 04.20.59 # someone's awake? 04.23.12 Quit Mighty (Client Quit) 04.37.55 Quit elinenbe ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 04.38.05 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.38.55 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-144.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 04.39.12 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-144.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 04.44.47 Quit WetFlax ("I like core dumps") 04.53.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.14.17 Join PsycoXul_ [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-31.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 05.21.42 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.27.15 Nick PsycoXul_ is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-31.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 06.13.15 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-230-192-86.client.attbi.com) 06.13.18 # hola 06.33.18 # dead night, huh? 06.33.37 # nah.. just ppl in diff timezones 06.33.49 # I just switched a few of them today 06.33.55 # lol 06.34.05 # and found about 10 new bugs in the rockbox while on the airplane 06.34.08 # :) 06.35.22 # any clue when linus usually drops by? I've got a couple issues to bring with his SAVE_TO_DISK stuff 06.35.36 # heheh are they still in the system.. or have they already been cleaned out? 06.35.55 # usually... after 2am est 06.36.39 # ah k. things like shuffle not working right, WPS problems, Keylock problems, scroll speed issues 06.36.41 # that kind of thing 06.44.53 # 11 issues to be exact :) 06.45.40 # I do User Acceptance Testing for a living (for VoiceStream/T-Mobile wireless)... testing UI's, Networks, General functionality, etc. I'm paid to be picky. heh 06.49.36 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.50.24 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-9.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.50.39 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-9.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.51.12 Quit adi|home (Client Quit) 06.51.21 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-9.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.51.38 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-9.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.53.19 # having problems adi? 06.53.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.57.37 Join MeRWiN- [0] (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 06.58.22 # yeayh.. my connection was giving me issues 06.58.35 Quit MeRWiN (Remote closed the connection) 06.59.09 # apparently mine is too :) 06.59.13 Nick MeRWiN- is now known as MeRWiN (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 06.59.26 # so how does one begin developing for this project 07.02.49 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.05.01 Join PsycoXuul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-31.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 07.05.08 Quit PsycoXuul (Client Quit) 07.25.34 Quit Synthe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.25.34 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.25.34 Join Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 07.35.55 Quit fragglet (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.35.55 Quit Synthe` (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit elinenbe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit PsycoXul (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit datazone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit ironi_ (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit dwihno|gone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit wettoad (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit stile (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit adi|home (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit mbr_ (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit Hadaka (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit matp|work (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.35.55 Quit webmind (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.36.44 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.36.44 NJoin Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 07.36.44 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.36.44 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-9.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.36.44 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-31.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 07.36.44 NJoin datazone [0] ([zl7ALdwUL@207.136.36.203) 07.36.44 NJoin ironi_ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 07.36.44 NJoin mbr_ [0] (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 07.36.44 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 07.36.44 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc1-guil4-0-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 07.36.44 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 07.36.44 NJoin wettoad [0] (~wettoad@194.95.13.192) 07.36.44 NJoin stile [0] (~adiamas@151.204.138.24) 07.36.44 NJoin matp|work [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 07.36.44 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 07.47.10 Join PsycoXul_ [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-142.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.04.19 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.10.17 Nick PsycoXul_ is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-142.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.28.49 Join Linus [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 08.28.56 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.29.04 # morning 08.29.10 # haha i was here before you, bagder! 08.29.16 # (1 second) 08.29.18 # hehe 08.29.27 # Any sound? 08.29.31 # yeah, I actually read a lot of emails before I joined IRC today ;-) 08.29.34 # I have sound! 08.29.41 # good 08.29.42 # bad build yesterday 08.29.48 # some non-working dependency 08.29.49 # but backlight problems... 08.29.59 # yeah 08.30.07 # minor ones though 08.30.18 # yeah 08.32.00 # although very fixable 08.32.39 # I thought so too 08.34.52 # did you find out what the bad dependency was? 08.34.56 # no 08.35.05 # I did a make clean and rebuilt everything 08.35.10 # and then it worked fine 08.39.17 Quit PsycoXul (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 08.39.17 Quit fragglet (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit Linus (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit stile (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit dwihno|gone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit ironi_ (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit datazone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit elinenbe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit Synthe` (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit wettoad (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit webmind (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit matp|work (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit mbr_ (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit adi|home (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.17 Quit Hadaka (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.39.55 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 08.39.55 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-142.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.39.55 NJoin Linus [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 08.39.55 NJoin Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 08.39.55 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 08.39.55 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-9.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 08.39.55 NJoin datazone [0] ([zl7ALdwUL@207.136.36.203) 08.39.55 NJoin ironi_ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 08.39.55 NJoin mbr_ [0] (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 08.39.55 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 08.39.55 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc1-guil4-0-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 08.39.55 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 08.39.55 NJoin wettoad [0] (~wettoad@194.95.13.192) 08.39.55 NJoin stile [0] (~adiamas@151.204.138.24) 08.39.55 NJoin matp|work [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 08.39.55 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 08.40.44 # i looked into the problem about not going to USB mode when i the menus yesterday 08.40.44 # i looked into the problem about not going to USB mode when i the menus yesterday 08.40.44 # in the menus 08.40.44 # that is not entirely simple 08.40.49 # all menu functions return void 08.41.24 Quit Hadaka (Remote closed the connection) 08.41.27 # and they have to tell dirbrowse to reread the root dir somehow 08.41.29 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@194.215.9.50) 08.42.37 # i was thinking of adding a file to the firmware containing a default message handler 08.43.09 # that is supposed to be called at the default: case of all message switches 08.43.45 # that one would take care of the SYS_USB_CONNECTED/SYS/USB_DISCONNECTED messages 08.44.12 # so we wont clutter all button_get() loops with USB stuff 08.44.21 # what do you think? 08.44.22 # sounds like a good idea 08.44.52 # still, that doesn't solve the problem with dirbrowse and menus 08.45.29 # dirbrowse calls main_menu(), which returns void 08.45.36 # we change the return type 08.45.46 # i did that yesterday... 08.45.46 # and return something for re-read signalling 08.45.56 # that was a loooooooooot of files 08.46.02 # yeah 08.46.18 # can we do it any other way? 08.46.21 # and i felt that i needed to do the default message handler first 08.46.30 # right 08.46.57 # actually i don't think we can do it much differently 08.47.09 # if we want to stay cool 08.47.20 # and we want that 08.47.27 # we want c00lness ;-) 08.50.21 # is that line in the bottom of the recorder display the battery indicator? 08.52.59 # yeah, Zagor is an aestetic guru! 08.53.13 # indeed 08.53.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.55.20 # The UI needs major work 08.55.39 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.55.39 # * Bagder nods 08.55.45 # Status indicator (battery, play/pause...) and function key hints 08.57.45 # wc -l /home/majordom/lists/rockbox 08.57.45 # 206 /home/majordom/lists/rockbox 08.58.45 # :-) 08.58.50 # quite a crowd 08.59.22 # somw people complain about very late mails from the list 08.59.57 # I've seen that happen before with majordomo 09.00.18 # one of the reasons I moved the curl list to mailman 09.03.34 # So, when do we release 1.2? 09.03.41 # I think the USb issue can wait 09.04.00 # now? 09.04.19 # why not? I have nothing i need to add 09.04.37 # I anticipate that people will complain about the battery charging 09.05.06 # I checkout a clean CVS tree now 09.05.21 # We need a good README/User's manual 09.05.28 # yes 09.05.35 # And i don't know hoe the simulators work 09.06.52 # i have a feeling that the battery life is *very* short on the recorder 09.07.37 # I run my now, I'll soon figure it out ;-) 09.10.44 # both simulators seem to work 09.14.37 # so we need to write up a release notes file 09.21.57 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 09.24.50 # so, what are the changes since 1.1? ;-) 09.25.35 # morning 09.25.56 # who here wants a list of bugs i've found in the player? :) 09.26.04 # the 7/29 build 09.27.22 # anyone? going once.. going twice... :-) 09.27.33 # mail the list! 09.27.58 # I think my charger code ~works. 09.28.49 # http://hes.iki.fi/misc/rockbox-charging.jpg 09.30.21 # Hes: way to go! 09.30.46 # (and you really needed that penguin in the picture, right...? :-) 09.30.48 # Will try it a couple times, only tried from ~80% charge to full charge yesterday 09.30.55 # Yes, really, really. 8-) 09.30.55 Join MeRWiN- [0] (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 09.30.57 # grr 09.31.04 # anyone reply to my want-ad? 09.31.11 # Hes: do you have a feeling of the battery life on your recorder? 09.31.15 # mornin 09.31.21 # No, I don't 09.31.27 # MeRWiN-, add ? 09.31.39 # MeRWiN: I suggest you post them to the mailing list 09.32.04 # webmind: I've got a nice list of bugs... including one for the new SAVE_TO_DISK feature 09.32.11 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.32.19 Nick MeRWiN- is now known as MeRWiN (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 09.32.28 # ,elinenbe ah ok 09.32.29 # Linus: you should have asked for the car model, I heard some of the new volvo's cause some distortion. 8-) 09.32.29 # er 09.32.34 # MeRWiN, ah ok 09.32.40 # Hes: :-) 09.33.03 # Bagder: How often is the mailing list sent out? I subscribed but i haven't gotten anything yet (been about a week) 09.33.26 # MeRWiN: something must be wrong, what is your email address? 09.34.21 # 387 mails in July so far 09.34.43 # Linus: jheiner@yahoo.com 09.35.11 # option reques: 09.35.12 # you're not in there... 09.35.14 # :) 09.35.21 # Bagder: can you add him? 09.35.21 Join PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 09.35.22 # option to disable reading of id3 tags ? 09.35.30 # right away 09.35.34 # webmind: why? 09.35.55 # Linus, cos sometimes the filename is more usefull then the tag 09.36.12 # MeRWiN: I added you now 09.36.16 # maybe it's an idea to have a flexible disply for playmode 09.36.17 # While Playing screen 09.36.24 # webmind: we do 09.36.35 # Linus, so u can set your own combi of tags ? 09.36.42 # including plain filename ? :) 09.36.52 # aha, you mean *that* flexible? 09.37.01 # without path? 09.37.02 # uhuh 09.37.03 Quit PiotR (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.37.19 # Bagder: what mailing address do i send to to post things? 09.37.31 # rockbox@cool.haxx.se 09.37.34 # Linus, well.. that u can set your wps screen.. like album-songname 09.37.40 # or artist-songname 09.37.44 # or filename 09.37.48 # * Bagder points to Linus' reply 09.38.11 # webmind: post a suggestion to the list 09.38.16 # Linus, hmm 09.38.21 # i'm not on the list.. but ok 09.38.35 # join the list then 09.38.44 # there... all sent :) 09.38.52 # got it 09.39.07 # Linus: your save_to_disk looks great, the scroll speed gets loaded but doesn't actually set it until you go into the scroll speed config 09.39.14 # Linus, need a good mail addy first then 09.39.28 # Linus: other than that it seems to do great 09.39.34 # just have some web thing with a 2mb limit.. which tends to fill up 09.39.41 # MeRWiN: that list was comprehensive! Way to go! 09.40.05 # Linus: I do user acceptance testing for a living.. my job is to be picky :) 09.40.16 # webmind: i see, but you can always read the list archive on the web 09.40.19 # hah, that's the spirit ;-) 09.40.38 # MeRWiN: you are exactly the type of user we need 09.40.38 # Linus, ok 09.41.27 # Linus: that and an 8 hour plane ride 09.41.37 # hehe 09.42.03 # You know what the buffer size info is static? 09.42.05 # that 09.42.28 # It is not a buffer usage meter, it just tells how large the buffer is 09.42.41 # (maybe it should be in the debug menu?) 09.43.00 # Linus: is that why it never changes? 09.43.42 Nick Synthe` is now known as Synthe (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 09.43.44 # yes, but the battery should update 09.44.10 # but today it doesn't. i'll fix that in a sec 09.45.19 # So do most people here use the WPS/ID3 or the WPS/File? I find the File option to be more useful, since I have a standard naming convention for my MP3's, and ID3's are often incorrect when downloaded 09.45.44 # MeRWiN, uhuh 09.45.50 # MeRWiN, my prob exactly 09.46.11 # I use ID3 on my recorder, less scrolling... I have standard naming but the full path takes a long time to scroll 09.46.20 # MeRWiN, although my file naming script often uses id3 tags to define the filename.. 09.46.23 # uhm 09.46.27 # and almost all of my mp3's are made from my CD's 09.46.34 # full path in filename qould be anoying i think ? 09.46.40 # would 09.46.50 # webmind: full path isn't in the filename display though 09.46.53 # just the filename 09.46.58 # ok 09.47.27 # * webmind has some mp3's that have "track " as id3 tag 09.47.37 # which is damn anoying if u have a more correct filename :) 09.48.19 # Would be nice to document the various key combinations somewhere 09.48.27 # uhuh 09.48.29 # what's the key lock for example? 09.48.56 # btw, would it be possible with a hardware hack to make a keyboard for it ? 09.49.07 # hes: keylock is menu stop 09.49.26 # hes: volume up and down is menu + and menu - 09.49.29 # or menu+down on the recorder 09.49.53 # why difference ? 09.49.54 # vol is up/down on the recorder 09.50.07 # there is no STOp key on the recorder 09.50.11 # er ? 09.50.12 # ok 09.50.17 # oh, i'm thinking player 09.50.18 # :P 09.50.28 # me only has player so same here :) 09.51.25 # anyone know how to synch the cvs to a local dir for the first time in wincvs? 09.51.28 # i'm new to this 09.55.20 Quit MeRWiN () 09.55.24 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 09.58.48 # I think i'll remove the buffer info, it's not really useful anyway 10.00.43 # any protests? 10.01.00 # I think you can leave it there for now 10.01.10 # ok 10.01.32 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.01.37 # it'll make us notice how it shrinks when the software grows ;-) 10.01.55 # * Bagder runs for coffee 10.02.54 # * webmind trips the coffee 10.09.01 Part Linus 10.13.25 # so is SAVE_TO_DISK enabled now? 10.13.30 # by default that is 10.13.34 # no 10.14.30 # why not? 10.14.49 # because it isn't really how we want it yet 10.15.04 # ahh 10.15.04 # k 10.25.31 Join Linus [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 10.25.42 # had to reboot... 10.26.10 # * Bagder has just found a bug 10.26.37 # I have a playlist, and I just played a song that was said to be 0:00 long 10.26.50 # VBR? 10.26.54 # probably 10.27.01 # but when it ended, things got wrong 10.27.07 # we need to analyze the VBR header 10.27.22 # got wrong? 10.27.35 # yes, the next song started without the display showing it 10.27.46 # and *blip* a third song started 10.28.12 # it was like there was a gap with some old song data in between 10.28.48 # [short music from another song] 10.34.47 # are we using the player icons on the LCD yet? 10.38.18 # http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/rockbox-1.2-notes.txt 10.38.38 # please tell me what more changed from 1.1 to 1.2 10.39.10 # (consider 1.2 being *now*) 10.40.10 # hmm looks good from what i see... 10.40.30 # although.. most of the stuff under settings i don't think were ther in 1.1 10.40.33 # but i dont remember 10.40.49 # me neither ;-) 10.41.41 Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 10.41.52 # Recorder-specific: Auto Volume control, Bass Boost, Loudness 10.42.01 # Linus: I got the problem again, only this time with silence after the song that was "0:00" 10.42.29 # I though the pitch problems were on the Players, not the recorders 10.42.40 # oh 10.42.51 # * Bagder fixes 10.43.38 # I say hello! :D 10.43.45 # hey ho dwihno 10.43.48 # and good foredinner ;) 10.44.23 # what's key repeat? 10.44.54 # when you hold the key pressed and it will be treated as repeated keypresses 10.44.57 # ah 10.45.00 # stupid old me 10.45.24 # Configurable directory sorting: defaults to non-case-sensitive sorting 10.46.48 # Bagder: probably could mention things that have been worked on and which will probably appear in 1.3 10.47.19 # (charging on the recorder, config saving to disk on the player to mention a few important ones) 10.47.55 # and a current limitation: charging does not work on the recorder while rockbox is running. Workaround: boot the device with the charger attached and it'll go to the original firmware for charging. 10.47.58 # Bagder: calling the .mp3/.m3u file filter a "browsing mode" is maybe a little too much 10.48.30 # ok "filter mode" then ;-) 10.48.34 # Bagder: the Player distortion problem is fixed 10.49.20 # Bagder: key locking with Menu+STOP (player) and F1+DOWN (recorder) 10.49.47 # Bagder: dir playback works as long as you don't leave the directory 10.50.06 # oh.. oh.. i know what we forgot 10.50.08 # that one's still mentioned in limitation 10.50.09 # Bagder: STOP in WPS also stops playback 10.50.25 # "adiamas: lazy developer that hasn't submited any code for this version" 10.50.41 # Mention that F1 is the MANU key on the recorder 10.50.43 # MENU 10.51.17 # Limitation: some high bitrate files may skip on the recorder 10.51.59 # Bagder: LCD icons are used on Player 10.52.35 # Bagder: Playlist playback doesn't stop on non-existing files, does it? 10.52.43 # I don't know 10.52.55 # it said that in the 1.1 release I'm not aware of any fixes for that 10.53.14 # anyone? 10.53.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.53.39 # Bagder: deeper sleep for hard drive 10.56.23 # is there actually any point in "releasing" simulator binaries? 10.57.49 # Bagder: people can check it out before they decide to put it on? 10.58.03 # Bagder: in case they don't have their jukebox on them 10.58.13 # Bagder: I keep wanting to write badger :) 10.58.21 # heheh 10.59.03 # Bagder: I tried the SIM first (although it was a horrible failure on my laptop... no numeric keypad) 10.59.21 # B-] 10.59.43 # ok then, I'm convinced, simulator binaries will come too 10.59.51 # Bagder: couldn't hurt 11.00.05 # It'll also give reviewers something to play with 11.00.37 # anyone with a win32 env around to build a win32 release version for me? 11.00.41 # Is it possible to create a single simulator that loads an archos.mod file dynamically? 11.01.34 # well, everything is of course possible, that that would be quite a different beast from what we have today 11.01.54 # "but that" 11.02.01 # heh.. also, regarding the sim.. with the win32 executable, it's default directory is C:\, not the App folder + \archos 11.02.08 # at least it was in v1.1 11.02.38 # the win32 version has always "lagged behind" a bit, since there has mainly only been Felix working on that 11.03.14 # Time for me to get an OS emulator running on my work laptop i guess... need to run linux 11.03.51 # you should! ;-) 11.04.17 # So do you want to release 1.2 without shuffle working right? 11.04.34 # I want to release 1.2 as it works right now 11.04.48 # shuffle is working? 11.04.54 # yes 11.05.02 # works for me right now at least 11.05.08 # player? 11.05.12 # no 11.05.19 # but the shuffle code is the same 11.05.40 # hmm... i'll download the current daily build and test it out right now, just to double check 11.06.13 # shuffle only works for playlists 11.06.25 # Bagder: in that case, then it works fine :) 11.06.35 # ok 11.06.44 # MeRWiN: check my reply to the mailing list 11.07.20 # hmm 11.07.22 # Linus: what reply? 11.07.27 # ahh 11.07.28 # to your bug report 11.07.35 # nevermind, i forgot that i made a filter for it 11.07.37 # i'm getting distortion again with latest cvs... :/ 11.08.50 # Linus: okey. 11.08.50 # Linus: you want this recent commits in the 1.2, right? 11.08.52 # these 11.08.55 # actualy it was fine when i was running that test build, and then yesterday i compiled CVS with the settings saving code enabled, and got some distortion on some things 11.09.07 # "on some things" 11.09.11 # but i wasn't sure if it had something to do with the songs or the sound settings code 11.09.21 # But it us the digital distortion thing? 11.09.26 # so i just tried it wouthout the settings saving code and i still get the same old distortion 11.09.30 # loud clicks? 11.09.43 # yeah its what we talked about 11.09.44 Join yro|work [0] (~yves@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 11.09.49 # damn! 11.10.05 # i tried it now with the standard benchmark [AC/DC - Hell's Bells heh] 11.10.51 # Bagder: "For continuous playback of all files in the directory, you 11.10.52 # must remain in id3 display mode" 11.10.55 # wrong! 11.11.28 # removed 11.11.41 # I'm worried about the distortion though 11.11.56 # PsycoXul: so it comes and goes, right? 11.12.13 # it depends on the music 11.12.42 # ok i just cp'd the test build you sent me and it still works without distortion 11.12.54 # you must be joking 11.13.38 Quit MeRWiN () 11.14.21 # heh 11.14.43 # you think thats funny 11.14.53 # i just cp'd the SAME BUILD i was just getting distortion from back on 11.14.57 # and suddenly not getting it :p 11.15.42 # *buah* 11.15.55 # AAAAAAA!!! 11.16.02 # major wps bug here 11.16.52 # it shows the wrong song info 11.17.03 # during this whole song 11.17.16 # PsycoXul: can you build from source? 11.17.20 # yes 11.17.58 # that "same build" was cvs compiled like 5 minutes ago 11.18.07 # its still up to date 11.18.11 # Try to move the three lines beginning with "mas_writereg(0x3b...." down to after the PLL setting 11.18.12 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.18.41 # Bagder: can you repeat it? 11.19.38 # I seem to be able to 11.19.42 # hang on 11.21.41 # I select a song from disk, but it isn't that one that gets played 11.22.30 # I HATE THE MICRONAS DOCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11.22.46 # the id3 tag is all wrong too 11.23.14 # On one page they say run $fcd, on the other page $fcb 11.23.23 # Bagder: is it just that song? 11.23.46 # no, there seem to be several songs in that one directory 11.23.56 # Bagder: this could be a ctype bug 11.24.05 # sorting 11.24.15 # no 11.24.17 # but i'm not sure 11.24.27 # is it consistent? 11.24.27 # because the songs actually played are in a different directory! 11.24.32 # wow! 11.24.46 # heh 11.24.51 # Bagder: fsck? 11.24.52 # I select "And One/*plastic" 11.25.05 # but Armageddon*/*blabla* is played 11.25.10 # yes I need to check it 11.25.19 # so even with the SAVE_TO_DISK defined build of latest CVS i still get no distortion now 11.25.30 # must've been some freak thing with that last build or i dunno 11.25.45 # Or maybe is is random 11.25.51 # or hmmm 11.26.00 # since you can't get it back 11.27.48 # heh 11.27.50 # i just got it back 11.28.00 # i plugged it into the charger [while turned off] 11.28.04 # till it said charging 11.28.07 # then unplugged it, booted up 11.28.13 # and wah-la distortion 11.29.00 # ok 11.29.08 # good, now we can repeat it 11.29.32 # lemme try a few more things 11.29.38 # (no wonder i can't repeat it, my box doesn't boot when connecting the charger 11.31.03 # just rebuilt without SAVE_TO_DISK and cp'd that over... still getting distortion from that 11.31.58 # PsycoXul: when is your unit manufactured? 11.32.45 # and once again your test build clears it up... heh 11.33.14 # Linus: dunno 11.33.18 # Linus: ROM firmware 5.03 11.33.33 # whatever it is, it seems like it somehow remains between reboots 11.33.42 # ok. try this: 11.34.12 # use address 36d, 36e and 36f in both cases when setting the PLL 11.35.22 Join Mighty [0] (mboss@h76n2fls35o931.telia.com) 11.36.14 # where's this? 11.36.22 # hello 11.36.33 # around 1307 in mpeg.c? 11.36.41 # PsycoXul: beginning with "if(mas_version_code..." 11.37.01 # Mighty: hi 11.37.18 # should i switch it back into distorting before trying this? 11.37.50 # does the isd200 chip has some kind of bypass feature so commands/calls can be made to a systemthread of some kind while the archos is in usb mobe? 11.38.26 # or is it locked up so it's impossible to access any running processes while usb is on 11.38.43 # PsycoXul: yes 11.39.07 # Mighty: the software is running even when in usb mode 11.39.26 # but the ISD200 can only access the hard drive 11.39.39 # no other USB communication 11.39.51 # is is an ATA-USB chip only 11.40.17 # Linus, it doesn't have any special feature where one can program it to be able to make simple calls or sent other status data over the USB ? 11.40.55 # no 11.41.01 # ok 11.41.20 # actuallt, it is made to work standalone, without a CPU 11.42.23 # Linus: no change 11.43.15 # I had this idea about an X11 statusmonitor that displays info about the player/recorders HW state and things, ie. something nice that popup up when one connects it to the usb, but basically then, that is completely impossible to write because the hardware is unable to any such communication 'other' than just the ata-bridge? 11.44.57 # hmm.... 11.45.22 # hmmm 11.46.26 # Linus: it may be something else triggering it actualy 11.46.36 # Mighty: correct 11.46.41 # :-/ 11.48.07 # heh 11.48.11 # PsycoXul: ? 11.48.22 # hold on i'm testing it several times to make sure 11.50.13 # ok 11.50.32 # booting up with the headphone jack in a different state than when it shut down 11.50.35 # thats it 11.50.52 # i.e. unplug headphone, shut down, plug headphone in, boot up - distortion 11.51.07 # plug headphone in, shut down, unplug, boot up - distortion 11.51.14 Join notching [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.51.34 # heh 11.51.59 # but leave it in while both shutting down and booting up - distortion's gone... or leaving it in for both 11.52.09 # immensely weird 11.52.10 # er or leaving it out for both 11.52.23 # it seems to be consistently reproducable 11.52.46 # just unplug before shutting off and then plug it back in before booting up, and see if you get it 11.53.10 # has to be fairly loud and 'full' sounding music, generaly with like bass drums 11.53.23 # if you haven't heard it already 11.54.14 # maybe its some kinda voltage difference or something? 11.54.36 # anyone know where to find the isd200 datasheet? 11.55.11 # that isn't publicly available, afaicr 11.55.18 # PsycoXul: i can't reproduce it 11.55.24 # no? 11.55.34 Quit notch (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.56.01 Nick notching is now known as notch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.56.37 # Bagder bjorn seens to have had it on the old rockbox page, lots of broken links from a year back in google 11.56.42 # well at least i know the workaround heh 11.57.02 # Mighty: yes, but he was never allowed to publish it 11.57.45 # they specificly asked him not to, if I recall things correctly 11.57.59 # odd manufacturer 11.58.07 # indeed 11.58.25 # 'oh no, someone might write software to our hardware' 11.59.54 # but if no one has seen those datasheets, then there might actually be support in the chip for userdefined calls of some kind in it just that it isn't in the isd200 driver? 12.00.33 # Mighty: Björn wrote the isd200 driver and he read the datasheet... 12.01.21 # Mighty: remember that the ISD200 is designed to work standalone, without a CPU 12.01.48 # ugh 12.01.52 # yes 12.03.59 # PsycoXul: can you hear the distortion in the line-out jack as well? 12.04.34 # yes 12.05.01 # good 12.06.17 # did you try to move the mas_run(1) call? 12.06.49 # no 12.07.16 # bye 12.07.18 Quit Mighty ("BitchX: born to raise hell") 12.09.10 # PsycoXul: please do 12.10.06 # ok move it and what else to where? 12.11.06 # i told you 12.11.29 # Try to move the three lines beginning with "mas_writereg(0x3b...." down to after the PLL setting 12.15.00 # still got it 12.16.57 # ok 12.17.51 # change back the addresses 36d etc to 32d etc 12.18.36 # oh 12.18.41 # i think i already did :p 12.20.20 # hehe 12.20.26 # this sucks 12.20.51 # ok, another try (just to check if the docs really tell the truth): 12.21.35 # in the first (F10) case: 12.21.42 # just tried them with 36 instead of 32 too and still the same 12.22.30 # use 32d, 32e,32f and run $fcb 12.23.19 # fcb instead of 475? 12.23.22 # yes 12.25.02 # no difference... 12.28.53 # and 36x and run $fcb? 12.34.02 # that seems to work... 12.34.18 # though i have no idea if i might've accidently switched it off in the process 12.34.48 # what i said worked like several times in a row when i said about the headphone jack thing and then it quit working heh 12.35.11 # keey trying, and see if you can reproduce it 12.37.31 # ok well i just got it back 12.38.19 # but its not as much as it was before.. it doesn't happen untill the bass drums come in now, while it'd do it at various points up till then before 12.38.38 # god, please give me strength 12.38.40 # lemme see if i can account for that another way 12.39.10 # yeah ok i think that was a result of the bass/trebble settings, its still the same as it was before 12.39.21 # yeah 12.39.25 # sorry heh 12.40.00 # ok, so now you have 32x, mas_run(fcb) and then mas_run(1), right? 12.40.35 # 36 12.40.55 # heh 12.41.00 # and i just got rid of it again 12.42.19 Join edx [0] (OKE60@fapc.kph.uni-mainz.de) 12.42.23 # hi 12.43.04 # Bagder, are you there? 12.43.12 # i think you should have 32x, fcb and then mas_run(1) 12.45.01 # didn't we try that just before 36x, fcb, mas_run(1)? 12.46.03 # oh, sorry 12.53.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.00.37 # * Bagder is back 13.06.48 # i'm out of ideas 13.08.48 # i have browsed the source code of other MAS3507D projects 13.11.35 # it seems that 32d, 32e, 32f, mas_run($fcb) and then mas_run(1) is the way to go on the chips with version 601 13.12.11 # and 36d, 36e, 36f, run 475 and run(1) for the 501 chips 13.12.52 # gotta eat 13.12.52 Nick Linus is now known as Linus|lunch (~linus@193.15.23.131) 13.14.10 # actually, some projects omit the mas_run(1) on the 601 chips 13.57.43 Nick edx is now known as edx|busy (OKE60@fapc.kph.uni-mainz.de) 14.11.30 Nick Linus|lunch is now known as Linus (~linus@193.15.23.131) 14.17.22 # * Bagder pretends to be a web guy right now... :-/ 14.18.51 Join jedix [0] (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 14.20.16 # 14.20.21 # 14.20.27 # Bagder's www-page ;) 14.20.59 # yeah, something like that :-) 14.23.03 # :-) 14.23.11 # It's fun to do webpages 14.23.44 # not this kind I do right now 14.24.28 # the web stuff here is the embedded admin interface for network equipment 14.24.53 # cool :) 14.24.56 # that's fun too! :) 14.25.05 # Yes, the charger does seem to work. 14.25.17 # Just did a full recharge 14.25.23 # experimental charging code huh? 14.25.26 # cool 14.25.52 # Someone with the serial port patch should probably try it for a few times too 14.26.07 # serial port patch? 14.26.13 # * Bagder looks at Linus 14.26.17 # you mean to get DEBUGF() messages? 14.28.01 # modification, yes 14.29.26 # to see if it's the short-term negative delta or long-term low positive delta detection which works 14.29.36 # and how fast it detects the drop 14.30.18 # Hes: what external power device do you use? 14.33.39 # The bog standard charger 14.34.15 # ok. how long did it take? 14.34.47 # Didn't time it 14.34.51 Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|away (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 14.34.56 # could count the 1-minute pixels on the screen of course 14.35.21 # i mean, a recharge should take quite a long time 14.35.22 # and debugging could show the elapsed time counter 14.35.26 # It did 14.35.58 # Peak voltage went to 5.4V with charger connected 14.36.03 # anyone tried to produce an "expected battery-time left" by reading the battery with large intervals and checking the differences? 14.36.29 # i have reached more than 5.6V 14.36.32 # Not yet... i have the statistics gathered now which can be used for that 14.36.42 # ok 14.38.15 # Think i'll mail the patch now 14.38.56 # great 14.39.46 # There is some serious cleaning up to be done in it probably 14.39.52 # but it should generally do the job. 14.40.49 # Seems the near-zero average time should be extended. 14.42.30 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 14.46.53 # Linus: we gould grab a typical NiMH dischagre curve, and generate a lookup or equation... 14.47.15 # yeah, that is a beginning 14.47.34 # I can look into that if i'm not stepping on anyones toes! 14.47.37 # however, that discharge curve only applies to constant current draw, i guess 14.48.07 # I might so some investigating... 14.48.09 # notch: we still need a non-linear battery level meter 14.48.19 # so go investigate 14.48.28 # :-) 14.49.12 # i'm so confused by the distortion problems 14.49.31 # and Micronas version number scheme 14.49.52 # They say that they will increase the version number for each new release 14.49.56 # Should i mail the charger patch to the list or do you want to take a look at it first? 14.50.05 # Version D8 has no version number 14.50.19 # Version F10 has number 0601 14.50.28 # abd version G10 seems to have 0501 14.50.45 # And G12 doesn't seem to have changed 14.50.59 # Hes: mail the list right away, imho 14.51.06 # and all data sheets say different things 14.53.30 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 15.00.56 # Okay, we cant use battery voltage to determine capacity. We need an energy counter whose size is determined dynamically, 15.01.29 # we can use -deltaV to determine full, and Vmin to determine empty. 15.01.49 # yes 15.02.09 # but -deltaV can only be applied if the charge rate is high enough 15.02.20 # We can take an average power consumption with HDD on and off, and use this to adjust the energy counter. 15.03.11 # has anyone tested to see if we get a deltaV or what the charge I is? 15.03.48 # My patch shows an average deltaV for a shorter and a longer period 15.04.57 # from what i have read, -deltaV detection is not reliable on batteries that have been used a while, not with a slow charge rate, such as C/10 15.05.10 # :-( 15.05.29 # the delta will be too small and too slow 15.05.55 # i don't know the charge rate of the recorder charger 15.06.15 # but i assume that the Player rate is about C/10 15.06.31 # since it has no software controlled charging 15.07.44 # takes about 6 hours on my recorder... so it's probably in the order of 350mA 15.08.57 # That's quite high, about C/5 then 15.09.09 # There. 15.11.02 # but since it's charging via a regulator, the current proabably drops off when the battery is near full! 15.11.13 # where the deltaV should be! 15.12.00 # I could see the deltaV drop clearly 15.12.20 # http://hes.iki.fi/misc/rockbox-charging.jpg 15.12.33 # that's good. i can imagine that C/5 would be enough to rely on -deltaV 15.12.39 # shit that's good! 15.12.48 # in the end of that graph... the automatic charge end code was not enabled for that graph 15.13.02 # the articles i have read only suggested that C/10 would be too low for -deltaV 15.13.39 # what happens if the unit is being used whilst charging? 15.14.02 # i guess that the charging will be slower 15.14.07 # we could get a HDD -deltaV ! 15.14.09 # We take an average over enough samples to get over the voltage drops caused by the spinning disk 15.14.24 # that's one possibility if we add code to see if the disk is spinning 15.14.40 # we shouldn't measure when the disk is spinning 15.15.04 # ata_disk_is_active() 15.15.17 # unless the disk spins all the time for some reason 15.15.57 # i suddenly realized that ata_disk_is_active is lame 15.16.47 # and now i suddenly realize that it isn't :-) 15.16.49 # Would the regulator keep the voltage across the batterys constant when the HDD was on? Or would it droop? 15.17.29 # the voltage across the batteries is what we measure 15.18.00 # The battery voltage drops quite a lot when the HDD spins 15.18.04 # especially when it starts up 15.18.54 # when charging? 15.19.05 # Always 15.19.10 # ahh 15.19.25 # Please try out my patch and observe 15.19.39 # okay will do... 15.28.34 # Hes: I am dumb. I don't understand what the AV decay time is... 15.34.03 # Also, I have noticed much more skipping with yesterday's build than Friday's. Is this a known issue? 15.37.17 # not really 15.42.15 # does the current code attempt to shut down when the batteries run out? 15.42.28 # or does it just die like before? 15.44.19 # it just dies, and will always do 15.44.34 # I'm $$%£^ trying to install CVS and have downloaded the automake version... any ideas what I type to install? 15.44.49 # ./configure 15.44.52 # ./install 15.45.02 # (and 'make' in between) 15.45.12 # ./configure && make && make install probably 15.45.18 # yes :-) 15.45.32 # cheers :-) 15.45.52 # matp|work: high bitrate? 15.48.33 # I haven't noticed any difference 15.49.01 # Linus: Variable bit rate. between 64 and 256 15.49.41 # My normal walk to the train station it stopped 3 times 15.50.03 # I was getting 'end of song list. press ON' 15.50.49 # i assume that the batteries were full? 15.51.08 # How do I boot to the archos firmware (yuck). I have the power connected, and it goes straight to the charging screen. 15.51.41 # You don't 15.51.56 # you have to replace or delete ajbrec.ajz 15.52.15 # Linus: yes, freshly charged that night. On the train, there was no skipping for an hour. Battery info claims it's 100% still (this is dubious). 15.52.50 # Linus: damn, forgot my usb cable. I want my batteries to be fresh for the journey home. 15.53.23 # i don't get it. Why do you want to run the archos firmware? 15.54.18 # if you want to charge, just start the unit with the power connected 15.54.48 # I thought the archos manual claims it recharges and plays at the same time. 15.55.00 # aha, now i get it 15.55.36 # yeah, I want to listen for the rest of the afternoon, and still have enough charge to get home ;) 15.56.00 # I really could do with 10 hours worth of battery life :( 15.56.30 # i just measured, i get 6hrs play time from my recorder with rockbox and (not really full, but almost) 1800mAh batteries 15.58.30 # That's about what I get, when I last measured. 15.58.50 # Anyway, this skipping has been introduced since Friday. 15.59.09 # Maybe it's overheating. It's 90 degrees in London at the moment :) 16.00.03 # interesting, i haven't made any changes that i think could cause skipping... 16.00.22 # do you play directories or playlists 16.00.24 # ? 16.00.42 # * webmind never managed to create a playlist on the player :) 16.00.51 # playlists all the way 16.00.58 # shuffle? 16.01.02 # * webmind uses que 16.01.10 # yes 16.01.21 # although i'd really like to be able to que more then one song :) 16.02.34 # Interesting that available memory is 1.5 MB. I assume that's 'normal' 16.03.42 # That info just tells how large the MP3 buffer is, not how much of it that is in use 16.16.22 # hey 16.16.41 # the LCD shut off because of low power I guess 16.16.48 # but the music still plays 16.16.52 # *AAARGH 16.16.55 # Stupid me 16.17.03 # * Bagder hides and feels ashamed 16.17.15 # never mind me, move on ;-) 16.17.44 # It really tells us how much memory we're using for the application, non? 16.17.53 # matp|work: yes 16.18.15 # or rather how much we're *not* using for the application ;-) 16.18.30 # matp|work: but it has never skipped when the unit is still? 16.20.06 # no. and until friday, it never skipped when the unit was moving. 16.20.45 # I have been playing with the auto-volume settings. could this be it? 16.21.04 # maybe, but i don't think so 16.21.27 # why is this setting in seconds? 16.21.33 # please try to observe as many details as you can, like if it is more likely with certain songs... 16.25.03 # The auto-volume setting is how many seconds it takes to raise the volume to normal level again after a volume drop 16.26.37 # ok, time to go home 16.26.54 # by all 16.26.56 # bye 16.26.57 # bye 16.27.04 Part Linus 16.27.05 # bye Linus 16.47.21 Quit yro|work ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.5 -- Are we there yet?") 16.47.44 # going home as well 16.47.46 Part Bagder 16.53.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.56.00 # * edx|busy notices his batteries are 133% charged :$ 17.45.03 Quit notch () 17.58.24 Join WetFlax [0] (~wettoad@flax.mbi-berlin.de) 18.23.01 Join Tumm [0] (coyote@mysko.net) 18.45.39 Nick stile is now known as adi|work (~adiamas@151.204.138.24) 18.53.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.20.36 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@63.98.122.204) 20.53.38 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 21.11.24 Quit elinenbe ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 21.11.24 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.03.41 Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t6o975p86.telia.com) 22.19.49 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-230-192-86.client.attbi.com) 22.20.37 Quit mistaRx () 22.27.02 Join matp [0] (~matp@pc-80-193-180-51-hw.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.53.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.02.54 Join MeRWiN- [0] (~merwin@12-230-192-86.client.attbi.com) 23.03.31 Quit MeRWiN- (Client Quit) 23.04.22 Quit MeRWiN (Remote closed the connection) 23.43.38 Quit datazone ("Client Exiting") 23.47.17 Quit jedix (Remote closed the connection)