--- Log for 05.08.102 Server: lerouge.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 16 days and 10 hours ago 00.55.44 Join mecraw [0] (mecraw@12-252-105-241.client.attbi.com) 00.55.54 Quit mecraw (Client Quit) 00.56.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.57.58 Quit datazone ("Client Exiting") 02.56.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.55 Join datazone [0] ([0x72LyCYj@207.136.36.203) 03.31.50 Join Paul02534 [0] (~Paul02534@pc-62-30-125-139-cr.blueyonder.co.uk) 03.32.32 Quit Paul02534 (Client Quit) 03.56.36 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 03.57.08 Quit Synthe` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.56.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.02.36 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 05.20.00 Quit ironi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.21.47 Join edx [0] (~not@pD9EA8BA2.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.30.36 # hello 06.32.07 # hi 06.32.10 Quit edx ("brb") 06.56.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.09.11 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.09.11 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.16.35 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.17.04 Quit elinenbe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.22.34 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.22.34 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.34.52 Join MeRWiN|Sleep [0] (~merwin@12-230-192-86.client.attbi.com) 07.34.57 Nick MeRWiN|Sleep is now known as MeRWiN (~merwin@12-230-192-86.client.attbi.com) 08.03.00 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 08.04.55 Quit elinenbe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.08.40 Join merwin- [0] (~merwin@12-235-158-146.client.attbi.com) 08.17.51 Join MeRWiNSkI [0] (~merwin@12-235-158-146.client.attbi.com) 08.28.16 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.32.12 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.32.22 # morning 08.37.51 Quit merwin- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.48.32 Quit MeRWiNSkI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.56.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.51 # hey bagder 09.02.56 # how goes it? 09.03.03 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-235-158-146.client.attbi.com) 09.03.23 # I broke the win32 build yday ;-) 09.03.28 # lol 09.03.29 # nice 09.03.36 # hehe 09.03.44 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.03.44 # * adi|home started playing with the 'sleep' request 09.03.47 # for like songs 09.04.07 # just not sure what should happen when you reach the # of songs requested.. 09.04.13 # ie: stop playing, or shut down 09.04.51 # well, I think it could stop playing, as we will have the shutdown timeout anyway that should kick in then anyway 09.05.23 # nods 09.05.32 # now i just need to figure out how to stop the playing 09.05.45 # i guess i could just fake the 'stop' button being hit... 09.14.02 # mpeg_stop() should stop the playback 09.17.16 # right, but what about in playlists? 09.17.27 Quit MeRWiN () 09.17.43 # it doesn't matter 09.18.15 # well.. right now i have the functions needed in a seperate file, because i don't know wtf to put the info 09.18.44 # what if we are not playing a file yet? 09.18.54 # check out tree.c 09.18.58 # look fore mpeg_play 09.19.10 # the only case of that, is where im looking to put the first check for a limit 09.24.21 # morning 09.25.57 # morning 09.32.38 # what is the mp3check that heiko mentions in the mailinglist? 09.32.47 # some kind of mp3 checking tool 09.32.55 # there was a URL in a previous mail 09.33.30 # nods 09.33.32 # just found it 10.03.52 Join Linus [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 10.04.00 # morning Linus 10.04.25 # all builds are now green, including the mingw32 sim builds 10.06.58 # great! 10.42.26 Join notch|learningto [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.44.02 Nick notch|learningto is now known as notch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.47.12 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.56.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.11.49 # mbr: are you awake? 11.14.48 # Good morning 11.14.54 # Linus: tried the charger yet? 11.15.07 # Nope, no time... 11.17.25 # ASM02 is over, http://hes.iki.fi/photo/20020801-asm/ and http://tnsp.org/asm02wank.jpg 11.17.39 # Hes: did you send the latest patch? 11.17.39 Quit Bagder (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.17.39 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.26.02 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.26.02 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 11.26.28 # Yes 11.26.36 # Bagder: at home? 11.26.46 # no, at neti 11.26.48 # I sent it on friday 11.27.00 # ah, muh on your home machine? 11.27.17 # yeps, since I need to tunnel through ssh 11.36.35 # Hes: trying it now... 11.39.42 # Hes: is there any way to see that it has stopped charging except seeing the voltage drop again? 11.54.57 # I wonder if my batteries are dead.. 11.55.15 # dead? 11.57.10 # well I don't think this is a battery contact issue anymore 11.57.17 # I can hardly ever boot my archos 11.57.42 # but if I happen to press the batteries just about correctly, I can get it to boot - but it refuses to spin up the HD 11.57.45 # etc. etc. 11.57.54 # nasty 11.58.36 # yes - I had the battery contact problem before - so I've been believing it's all about that still 11.58.45 # what happens if you charge them with another charger, externally? 11.58.54 # haven't had the chance to do that yet 12.00.44 # umm 12.01.04 # what happens with batteries when the "suddenly" decide they are not going to hold just about any charge at all 12.02.44 # i guess they are worn out 12.02.54 # do you charge them often? 12.07.42 # btw linus 12.07.49 # the battery line display 12.08.09 # the code that calls that... should that be assumed to be what we use for the future 'battery indicator'? 12.09.08 # if so.. i know there is code in CVS that gives a better indicator.. taht we can use as a base.. 12.09.11 # * adi|home heads back to bed 12.10.41 # I guess you mean the battery line in WPS for the recorder? 12.11.02 # That is a quick hack by Björn, that is not going to be used in the future 12.11.49 # I've had that happen to my old laptop's battery, almost to my newer laptop's battery - and now it feels like it's come to the same with this rockbox 12.11.53 # sorry, was afk a bit 12.11.56 # we will go for a status bar approach, much like the patch sent by Markus Braun 12.12.23 # Hadaka: i had the same problem with a thinkpad battery a while ago 12.13.00 # my "newer" laptop is a thinkpad ;) 12.13.07 # i think that is likely to happen with batteries that are constantly charging, like when you work with your laptop connected to the charger all day 12.14.01 # that is why Hes added the "deep discharge" option to the rockbox charger 12.14.37 # whaaat? there's such a thing there? 12.14.51 # in his patch, yes 12.15.00 # ugh, patch 12.15.12 # I wonder if I should try that 12.15.13 # it won't charge until the batteries are nearly discharged 12.15.22 # 10% capacity 12.15.42 # oh hmm 12.16.46 # and i honestly dont know if NiMh batteries have any memory effect at all 12.16.51 # Linus: you can see charger status messages on screen 2 of the charger debugger 12.17.01 # screen2? 12.17.23 # click down/up a few times 12.17.34 # aha... 12.17.42 # there are three views 12.18.41 # beautiful 12.18.49 # hmm 12.19.24 # Hadaka: please try out the patch... sent the latest version to the list on friday 12.19.55 # I'm pretty sure it works quite well, only thing is that it might cut the charging a little bit too early but that should be tuned based on experience 12.20.24 # Hes: I'm not on the list, and I don't have access to CVS from work - so I'd have to download the daily tarball, find the patch from the archives, apply it and hope it does that cleanly - and then try and get it working 12.20.28 # which is a bit much during work hours 12.21.18 # Oh, ok. 12.21.21 # Want a patched image? 12.21.27 # recorder, right? 12.21.43 # recorder 20, yes 12.22.14 # I'll build a current one now, I want the latest CVS code for mine as well anyway 12.22.56 # Hes: this looks very promising 12.23.22 # BTW, about backlight setting to 0 (re: "bugs in the current CVS" of Eric Linenberg) 12.23.34 # I'd like to be able to set the backlight to "always on" or "always off" 12.24.27 # My suggestion was OFF..1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9......15..ON 12.24.58 # when OFF and ON were "always off" and "always on" 12.25.57 # but maybe OFF..ON..1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8 is better? 12.26.03 # hello everyone 12.26.10 # hi mbr! 12.26.24 # Hi Linus 12.26.47 # Tried to reste the HT bit this weekend. Works only partial. 12.26.59 # I loose 30 Seconds every reboot. 12.27.23 # i have a question regarding your status bar patch 12.27.29 # Yes ... 12.28.07 # Linus: maybe yes 12.28.43 # Hadaka: http://hes.iki.fi/misc/ajbrec.ajz 12.28.46 # i just found out myself... :-) 12.28.58 # current cvs + the latest charger patch 12.29.14 # Adds a battery debug view too 12.29.44 # The charger thread only runs once per minute, so it won't notice charger insertion/removal instantly 12.29.59 # mbr: how come you put it in firmware/drivers/lcd.c, and not in apps/status.c? 12.30.27 # You mean the icon things? 12.31.03 # I just thought the hw display sould go to lcd. Should it not? 12.31.11 Join ironi_ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 12.32.24 # mbr: i think the positions of the status bar icons sould be decided by the application and not the LCD driver 12.33.57 # Only the position of the icons? The drawing routine can be in the LCD driver? 12.34.10 # i'm not sure yet 12.34.44 # i just think that the status bar is a little too high-level for the LCD driver to implement 12.35.15 # Hmm ... 12.37.02 # otherwise, the patch certainly adds a nice touch to the UI 12.37.39 # i have also thought of a status thread that does the status bar update in the background 12.37.55 # I know it is not nice ... 12.38.32 # A complete thread to update the status may be an overkill 12.39.46 # maybe there should be a thread which periodic runs functions 12.40.56 Join zebda3 [0] (~zebda3@ns1.guddland.lu) 12.40.59 # hi all 12.41.04 # mbr: you are right 12.41.16 # maybe some kind of a 'cron' thread? 12.41.21 # zebda3: hi 12.41.53 # Yes, was my thought, too. with a register and deregister function. 12.42.14 # could someone send me a compiled version for tzhe recorder with the "status bar" patch, I'd like to try it and give my impressions, but I've actually no way to compile it, thanks YOu could send me it at bmidypim@softhome.net 12.42.26 # puh, workstuff 12.42.34 # now installing that firmware 12.42.35 # Hadaka: got the file? 12.42.41 # yup 12.43.31 # I put the latest version on http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb 12.43.43 # now I must try and get this thing to boot :( 12.44.11 # heh, should set up a separate CVS tree & automatic builds with the latest experimental patches 8-) 12.45.07 # zebda3: is there 12.45.28 # mbr: thanks I'll see it now 12.45.54 # mbr: I'll try it now 12.46.01 # mbr: however, it might be better if lcd updates are done by the thread that "owns" the lcd... 12.46.13 # to prevent multiple updates 12.47.22 # But then you have a problem with tree.c Then the lcd is not updated until one presses a key .. 12.48.31 # mbr: that can be changed 12.49.28 # mbr: I just see it ! really impressive for a first try, I think that could make some people coming to Rockbox if the UI will be designed in a such way. 12.49.37 # OK. Then tree.c shall update the complete lcd periodicaly? 12.49.51 # mbr: yes 12.50.19 # mbr: I've also notes that with this build my big file (~45 or 90 mins from numerized K7) displayed correct time ! 12.51.08 # mbr: do you put regullary updated build for the recorder at : http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb/ ? 12.51.30 # OK. I modify it. What about the drawing routins, should the move to status.c? 12.51.56 # zebda3: not really up to now, but I will do. 12.52.20 # mbr: ok thanks for all , I've to go now 12.52.22 # bye 12.52.35 Quit zebda3 () 12.56.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.17 # mbr: for example, you could put your icons in apps/recorder/icons.c 12.59.54 Join Hes_ [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 13.00.59 # OK. What should I do with the DRAW_PIXEL macro? Generate a bitmap an call the lcd_bitmap function? 13.02.07 # move it to lcd.h enclosed in an #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP 13.02.49 # along with an extern declaration of "display" 13.03.11 # and maybe rename "display" to something better, like "lcd_framebuffer" 13.03.15 # or something 13.03.17 Quit Hes (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.03.22 # OK. 13.04.48 # What about the modifications to tree and wps? 13.04.56 # Are they ok? 13.29.22 Quit edx|weekend (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.33.27 Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 13.38.42 # Linus: Is it possible to utilize the contrast feature on the LCD to simulate more colors? 13.38.43 Quit notch (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.50.10 Quit ironi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.51.37 # hmm 13.51.45 # peer is in the mood today ;-) 13.51.51 # I wonder if I could do anything to make the connections between the batteries and the unit better 13.53.19 # I'm truly having insane difficulties in booting the unit 14.00.57 # oof 14.01.03 # I just can't get this thing to boot 14.01.22 # at times I get it up to the point where it would spin up the HD - and then it gives HD error when it can't 14.05.37 # dwihno: i guess not 14.09.18 Nick Linus is now known as Linus|lunch (~linus@193.15.23.131) 14.22.28 # hello there! morning all. 14.23.09 # hey 14.23.57 # Who is in charge of the battery patch? Hes? 14.24.08 # hes is the man 14.24.17 # why is that not in the CVS yet? 14.24.29 # It seems to be working pretty well here. 14.24.43 # I've left that to Linus and Hes to work out 14.24.43 # I do not think the deep discharge should be an option however. 14.24.52 # elinenbe: why not? 14.25.02 # something like battery charging should not be left up to the user. 14.25.24 # never had I ever had an electronic device where I had to set it how to charge/discharge the batteries 14.25.25 # well, for people that keep the charger attached to their archos all the time, it should be 14.25.38 # But, it detects that. 14.26.20 # yes, but it would go easier on the batteries of it discharges "deep" 14.26.20 # it detects if the charger is plugged in or not. 14.26.45 # so, then shouldn't that be the default setting? 14.26.49 # cd buil 14.26.51 # and if you charge them over night or something to have it charged in the morning, you don't want deep discharge 14.27.03 # elinenbe: I don't understand your point at all. 14.31.03 Quit Hes_ (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 14.31.03 Quit webmind (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit matp|work (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit adi|home (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit Bagder (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit pyvasene (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit elinenbe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit datazone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit mbr (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit Tumm (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit Synthe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit fragglet (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit PiotR (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit PsycoXul (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit wettoad (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit Hadaka (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit adi|work (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit dwihno (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.03 Quit Linus|lunch (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.31.46 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 14.31.46 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 14.31.46 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@151.204.138.24) 14.31.46 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@194.215.9.50) 14.31.46 NJoin wettoad [0] (~wettoad@194.95.13.192) 14.31.46 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc1-guil4-0-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 14.31.46 NJoin Tumm [0] (coyote@mysko.net) 14.31.46 NJoin mbr [0] (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 14.31.46 NJoin matp|work [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 14.31.46 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 14.31.46 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-165.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 14.31.46 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@63.205.40.165) 14.31.46 NJoin PiotR [0] (~piotr@212.170.21.172) 14.31.46 NJoin datazone [0] ([0x72LyCYj@207.136.36.203) 14.31.46 NJoin Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 14.31.46 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 14.31.46 NJoin Linus|lunch [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 14.31.46 NJoin pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 14.31.46 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.31.46 Join edx [0] (edx@dhcp17.kph.uni-mainz.de) 14.31.46 NJoin Hes_ [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 14.31.48 # whatever the designer wants 14.31.52 # I hope it helps and not hurts 14.33.53 # ok now I discharged my Li-Ion laptop battery to the very end 14.34.01 # and now I'm letting it charge to full without turning it on 14.34.59 # Hm... what was the last line you got from me? 14.51.06 Nick Linus|lunch is now known as Linus (~linus@193.15.23.131) 14.51.16 # Hello! 14.51.20 # HELLO! :D 14.51.21 # Bonjour! 14.51.28 # yo! 14.51.40 # comment allez vous? 14.52.08 # bien. merci, et vous? 14.52.14 # c'est parfait :) 14.52.21 # impeccable 14.52.21 # une baguette pour moi, s'il vous plait :) 14.52.55 # Linus: is it possible to determine if the connection type is UBS1.1 or USB2? 14.54.41 # when? 14.54.59 # When the unit is connected to a PC 14.55.03 # When entering the "usb mode" 14.55.17 # i don't know, meybe... 14.55.19 # maybe 14.55.48 # i'm not sure if the i2c bus is connected to the ISDx00 14.56.06 # why? 14.56.28 # I'll show you in a jiffy 14.56.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.57.00 # what excatly is dircursor in tree.c? 14.57.08 # I am feeling lazy here. 14.57.56 # elinenbe: it is the index where the cursor is 14.58.05 # Linus: thanks. 14.58.18 # Linus: that'll do donkey, that'll do. 14.58.48 # rather, the cursor position on the screen 14.59.19 # and "start" is the index in the file list of the file that is on top of the screen 15.00.00 # start+dircursor is the index of the file the cursor is pointing to 15.00.20 # Linus: got it, thanks. 15.00.30 # http://dw.lahma.net/rockbox/ 15.00.36 # Check it and tell me what you think 15.01.29 # you mean to display when in USB mode? 15.01.41 # yeah 15.02.46 # nice, but try to fit them in 112x64 15.03.03 # It looks a bit fishy in 2 bit :-) 15.03.06 # I'll work on it 15.03.38 # Which do you guys prefer 15.03.39 # ? 15.04.44 # I like http://dw.lahma.net/rockbox/usb1_2.gif 15.05.00 # but maybe have the usb logon on the plug... 15.05.05 # like a real usb adapter. 15.05.09 # ? 15.05.16 # the circle triangle square thing... 15.05.22 # ? 15.05.23 # :-) 15.05.31 # well, on the body of the plug. leave the plug there. 15.05.33 # hmm 15.05.49 # ah 15.05.49 Quit edx ("later") 15.05.50 # every time I unplug the charger from my laptop and plug it in again, it charges for a while 15.05.52 # I see 15.06.08 # I hope I'm not breaking the battery by this, but I do have to get more charge in it 15.06.37 # So the "empty" design with the USB logo (or whateveryoucallit) will do? 15.07.28 # If it is possible to check whether it's a hi-speed or usb1.1 connection, it would be cool to display the "hi-speed" thingy too :) 15.07.28 # yeah. at least I like that one. 15.07.41 # dwihno: agreed. 15.07.43 # dwihno: i agree with elinenbe, usb1_2.gif with the USB logo is perfect 15.08.12 # dwihno: i don't think we can see if the connection is hogh-speed or not 15.09.20 # Linus: too bad, it would look really cool with separate graphics for the different USB connection types :) 15.10.08 # dwihno: yeah 15.10.42 # gah 15.10.48 # apm says my battery level is 35% 15.10.56 # and it isn't charging 15.11.40 # I'll let it drop down to 4% again and charge again or something 15.11.43 # and see what happens 15.12.55 # http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/game/pic/usb-logo.gif 15.13.40 # that was nice 15.14.00 # http://www.antares.ru/reviews/usb.gif 15.14.03 # with that.... 15.19.40 # Working on it 15.22.50 Join Wire103 [0] (~daggammel@194.192.93.57) 15.34.28 # mbr: are you there? 15.34.29 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.34.39 # Yes, I'm here 15.34.54 # i think the volume gauge is a little wide 15.35.09 # i think it can easily be half the width 15.35.35 # maybe two pixels per step 15.35.55 # and instead have a wider battery 15.36.06 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 15.37.25 # OK, can change it. 15.37.51 # I already moved the icon stuff from lcd to recoder/icons 15.38.16 # Shall the slidebar and progressbar also bee moved? 15.38.47 # I think when icons should move, the bars should also move. 15.38.55 # it makes sense 15.44.31 # another bug... when you plug the USB cord in while you are in a menu, the [USB MODE] does not get removed until you press a button 15.47.02 # elinenbe: yes, that is a bug. The menus can't handle USB mode 15.47.35 # elinenbe: the USB MODE text should not appear at all 15.48.44 # ah 15.48.45 # hmmmm... it appeared and worked here. 15.48.47 # Reminds me of a bug 15.49.11 # grr I hope this laptop battery is not hopelessly dead 15.49.14 # When in the WPS and I press 'on' to return to the dir browser, and press 'on' again, the file name only keeps the 2 first chars (numbers) 15.49.18 # No ID3 tags 15.49.25 # Using the "parse" WPS option 15.49.36 # there isn't supposed to be any catastrophic failure with Li-Ion batteries though 15.50.10 # it's as if the charger just decides that the battery cannot be charged further, even though the voltage is very low 15.50.24 # it's not the temperature either 15.50.45 # so the only thing I can think of is that the voltage-delta gets too small for the charger and so it refuses to charge it 15.53.53 # so I'll have to keep plugging and unpluggin the charger to make it charge :( 15.54.04 # oo but now my archos claims it has full charge 15.55.34 # Hes_: we might want to try a trickle charge feature in the future 15.56.08 # hey, how's the power on thingy implemented in machines like this 15.56.11 # or 15.56.22 # why does the machine power on every now and then when I just put the batteries in 15.56.45 # and why is it sometimes only able to power up if I hold the on button down, powering down immediately if I release it? 15.57.27 # are you still talking about your laptop? 15.57.43 # no, the last 4 comments were about archos 15.58.27 # that sounds like a faulty battery, or that you have a broken unit 15.58.36 # I hope it's the former 15.58.58 # atleast the behaviour changes radically when I poke the batteries 15.59.01 # if you release ON when the HD has stopped spinning...? 15.59.15 # well right now, I can't get the HD to spin up at all 15.59.36 # ok, any dirt on the battery connectors? 15.59.53 # i had corrosion on my player connectors 16.00.29 # well the ones at the pointy ends have experiensed some wear 16.00.45 # you can see shinier metal brushed up 16.01.34 # I've been wondering how I could make sure that the connection is ok or is not ok 16.04.34 # a-ha! 16.05.06 # if I twist the pad that has the weirder cross wire connection in the spring, I get it to boot a bit 16.05.27 # ah no 16.05.33 # I can get it to happen on both sides 16.05.43 # Hadaka: BTW, the machine always powers up when you insert the batteries 16.05.51 # and it seems to just happen when the batteries get disconnected and connected by the twist 16.06.13 # always? 16.06.17 # Linus: yeah, we could perhaps do trickle charge 16.06.35 # Hadaka: yeah, mine does 16.06.50 # so if I can disconnect and connect the batteries on one side and it doesn't power up, then something is wrong 16.06.53 # Hes_: that might be good 16.06.56 # when battery is full, go to trickle charge mode, adjust duty cycle to keep the voltage up. 16.07.01 # Hadaka: yes 16.07.10 # But let's save that for version 2 for now 8-) 16.07.23 # indeed 16.07.55 # i am considering to include the battery charge in 1.2 16.08.07 # still no-one has a clue what that going over the battery spring connection does? 16.08.12 # Is the battery charging code that good already? 16.08.22 # Linus: add it. 16.08.24 # :) 16.08.37 # dwihno: it works 16.09.05 # we can still make adjustments when it comes to threshold values, but in general it works 16.09.08 # there is definitely some problem with battery connection on this machine, that I'm sure of 16.09.23 # Linus: cool! :-) didn't know that 16.09.48 # * Bagder says "go battery charging code, go!" 16.10.07 # but I don't have a way to verify this, since I can't get it to boot, even just once 16.10.10 # we can at least add it to the CVS like we did with the disk settings 16.10.43 # Hadaka: if you press the two blue pads together in each end? 16.10.57 # towards the batteries 16.11.26 # I seem to be getting a bit better connection yes, but not enough to spin up the hd 16.11.49 # You should take it apart and look at the soldering pads 16.12.05 # maybe heat them up with a soldering iron 16.12.13 # I'd say the charging code is good enough for 1.2 16.12.47 # Hes_: how long was you longest charge time with zero-delta detection? 16.13.08 # I'd rather not take this thing apart as long as I still have my warranty 16.13.18 # i'm thinking that 16 hours may be too long 16.13.24 # Hadaka: true 16.13.39 # Linus: didn't time it... 16 hours might definetely be too long 16.13.51 # http://dw.lahma.net/rockbox/usb_new.gif - have a peek 16.13.52 # i would make it 8 16.13.59 # from 10% (deep discharge mode) it took 133 mins now 16.14.07 # maybe even 6h 16.14.51 # dwihno: that is really nice. 16.15.11 # elinenbe: any ideas of more improvements? 16.15.13 # dwihno: maybe I would get rid of the "8" as a plug and make it a "0" 16.15.25 # that is all I can think of. but otherwise it is really nice. 16.15.54 # hmm, should I try and let the batteries run entirely dry and then charging them to full again? 16.16.25 # Hadaka: you could try it, but i smell hardware trouble... 16.16.57 # I have a question. why is there character by character scrolling and not pixel by pixel scrolling? 16.16.57 # I'll have to try an external charger when I get home - and try and find that extra set of batteries they gave with the unit 16.17.22 # elinenbe: because it was easy to do, and on the player we only have characters 16.17.39 # maybe I will implement pixel by pixel scrolling on the recorder... 16.17.48 # I think that would look nice :-) 16.18.02 # elinenbe: please do so, it will definitely make the proportional text look better 16.18.43 # Must go. Bye! 16.18.46 Nick mbr is now known as mbr|gone (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 16.20.56 # elinenbe: http://dw.lahma.net/rockbox/usb_el.gif 16.21.49 # dwihno: looks good 16.22.05 # More improvement ideas or should we use this one? 16.22.10 # I like it 16.22.55 # use it 16.23.05 # it needs a little retouching 16.23.26 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@dialup-209.244.76.209.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) 16.23.28 # I like it. 16.25.10 # Linus: I'll fix it rightaway... 16.25.22 # great 16.25.34 # Except the USB symbol, what needs to be done? 16.25.37 # Hes, you got CVS access to commit your charging code? 16.27.18 # dwihno: for example, there's an extra pixel in the top right corner of the inner square of the connector 16.27.28 # http://dw.lahma.net/rockbox/usb_tuned.gif - use this one 16.29.32 # keep the gif there, ald i'll use it later 16.29.37 # ok 16.29.58 # i have to go now 16.30.38 # bye Linus 16.30.46 # byebye 16.31.11 Quit Wire103 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.31.27 Part Linus 16.35.01 # Adapting vector graphics for lo-res is a pain in the arse! 16.35.43 # Bagder: I saw that you committed a patch to on Friday to enable switching shuffle modes to take affect when the song changes... 16.35.54 # I did 16.36.12 # or rather when the menu option is changed 16.36.20 # config option 16.36.25 # I was wondering if you ever took a look at the patch I submitted in mid-July. http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-07/0239.shtml 16.36.47 # I didn't... 16.36.48 # It's similar, but has an additional feature or two. 16.38.02 # It keeps the same shuffle order when you switch back to shuffle and will restart from where you left off in shuffle mode. 16.38.23 # nice 16.38.52 # I didn't see this before, I was away at that time and probably missed it when I scanned through all those mails when I got back 16.39.07 # could you make a new one against the current code? 16.39.12 # Cool, I'm just glad to see someone else finds that functionality useful. :) 16.39.37 # Probably not for a week or so, I'm in the middle of a move. 16.41.28 # well, I can wait a week ;-) 16.43.49 # Ok, I'll set up my box as soon as I can. I can't wait to be doing builds from CVS again, I'm having withdrawal. 16.47.12 # TOOG! 16.56.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.11.09 # gotta go, see ya 17.11.12 Part Bagder 17.24.27 Quit mecraw () 17.45.03 # YAY 17.45.15 # I finally got this thing to boot 17.46.15 # ookay, deep discharge 17.46.31 # now it's on 17.51.53 # can I turn the charger on unconditionally somehow? 17.53.14 Quit PiotR ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 17.58.14 Quit pyvasene ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 17.58.54 Join PrimeSource [0] (Prime@ip68-13-126-168.om.om.cox.net) 17.59.17 Join PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 18.05.37 Quit PrimeSource ("2.0 Build 1515") 18.12.24 # later 18.12.30 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|out (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 18.56.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.11 # Hadaka: Not really 20.02.31 # It'll discharge to the limit quite soon though 20.02.41 # if you play some stuff 20.56.43 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 21.23.59 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EA9914.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.25.58 # hi 22.19.56 Join bmidy [0] (bmidy@AMetz-101-1-1-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.56.19 Join mecraw [0] (mecraw@12-252-105-241.client.attbi.com) 22.56.45 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 22.56.49 Quit mecraw (Client Quit) 23.14.46 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 23.22.36 Join Lovechild [0] (~david@pc193015.stofanet.dk) 23.32.28 Quit bmidy () 23.42.24 # ... the first t-shirt design has been received! 23.44.39 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 23.45.17 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD9E12639.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.48.38 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirt-contest/designs.html 23.48.43 # kewl 23.49.00 # I would love to go see it, but I broke my broswer 23.49.05 # hehe 23.49.24 # I accidently deleted /usr/kde instead of /usr/kde/cvs 23.49.31 # ouch 23.49.40 # well not as bad as the last time... 23.50.14 # did rm -rf * in the wrong xterm... sadly I was root and I was sitting in / 23.50.23 # whoa 23.50.32 # you seem good at rm'ing ;-) 23.50.59 # Bagder: learning by doing... same way I'm learning C++.... Wait that broke shit... we don't do that again 23.53.26 # I know what you mean 23.53.34 # I've done my fair share of mistakes as well 23.53.51 # I once uploaded a new shell to a box using ftp... 23.53.51 # like you only do while(1) {malloc(60) } once :) 23.54.04 # the shell everyone used, including root 23.54.12 # and ftp doesn'r set the +x bit 23.54.26 # ah..I see so that totally screwed the boxen 23.54.33 # yeah 23.57.22 # so what's new in the daily builds now a day... charging ? 23.57.33 # no, not yet 23.58.03 # ah, it's the only thing between me and rockbox - I hate the fact that I can't recharge while playing tunes... 23.58.18 # Good morning 23.58.27 # I expect the charging to get applied any day now 23.58.33 # * Lovechild looks out window.... hrmm it's nighttime here 23.58.58 # is that patch for the status line going in soon??? or are you waiting until a overall screen stratagy is decided on? 23.59.26 # btw thanks for adding me to credits for so little work on the UI sim (George Styles)... i will try and do more on the project to earn my place 23.59.44 # ripnetuk: Linus and mbr discussed it today and mbr is reworking it a little 23.59.54 # :-)