--- Log for 06.08.102 Server: lerouge.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 17 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.06 # I try to make sure all contributors get added 00.01.52 # cool... this is a fun project... 00.02.03 # heck yes! ;-) 00.02.30 # must admit some (most?) of the hardware 'hit the metal' stuff is over my head, but its a cool way to learn 00.03.44 # Hi, since rockbox 1.2 is almost there, what's the latest recommended daily snapshot? 00.03.55 # the latest ;-) 00.03.57 # yeah, now on to recompiling kde.... 00.04.19 # freshmaker: its pretty solid and nicely working in fact 00.04.29 # ah, thanx 00.04.36 # any scheduler for merging the charging patches ? 00.04.53 # Lovechild: probably within a few days 00.05.02 # Bagder: finally... 00.05.07 # yeps 00.05.13 # I miss the charging too 00.05.33 # but charging in off-state was always working, right? 00.05.40 # yes 00.05.43 # I use my recorder mostly as a part of my stereo so I'm rather much forced to use the original firmware 00.06.36 # I charge mine every night, and run out the batteries every day ;-) 00.07.31 # can I ask what the advantage was of moving some stuff to a different ram was the other day? was it moved to on-sh2 ram to save power / run quicker? 00.07.48 # both I think 00.07.53 # yes, the code runs much faster in the internal ram 00.08.03 # so it loads quicker and thus saves battery 00.08.12 # cool 00.08.20 # and it updates the screen much faster too now 00.08.32 # 20ms compared to 36 previously 00.08.38 # that's massive 00.08.43 # good stuff 00.09.02 # I'm currently playing around with the idea to write a screen blanker, to save powa 00.10.56 # does neone else think the Archos remote control is crap? it EATS battaries like there is no tomorow (unless I have been buying half-dead cells) 00.11.09 # * Bagder has no remote 00.11.35 # what remote control ? 00.12.21 # would it be possible to use the input as a digital input, with a single push switch, without a hardware mod - all I really want is volume/pause, and old Sony walkmen had one button with different number of presses for different functions... could we tell the SH chip to float it high, and pull it to earth through a switch, to save having a power source in it? 00.13.33 # I don't think we can do that, but I'm not at all that oriented in the hw to tell for sure 00.14.12 # ripnetuk: should be easy to make a circuit that would do that, but implementing the hardware would be harder I think 00.14.13 # k 00.14.46 # i was thinking of something really simple, but i guess getting the +5v for the 1 would be impossible 00.15.58 # ripnetuk: well depending on what the box uses as high that might be dangerous, but sure it would work. 00.16.14 # ok, i dont want to endanger my favorate toy 00.19.28 # ripnetuk: well I think it would be easier to map one of the Fx keys to do that 00.20.30 # anyway, gotta sleep, catch you guys later 00.20.37 # night ripnetuk 00.20.41 # sleep tight 00.20.41 # night 00.20.50 Quit ripnetuk () 00.28.49 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.1/20020726]") 00.29.56 Part Lovechild 00.30.09 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@c213-89-105-64.cm-upc.chello.se) 00.30.20 # hey matsl 00.30.36 # Hey. 00.33.17 # Bagder: nope, I don't have CVS access, expecting Linus to merge the charger code after playing it for a while 00.33.23 Nick Hes_ is now known as Hes (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 00.33.31 # ok 00.34.11 # now that he's tested code, and a few others too 00.34.48 # How far of is 1.2? 00.35.05 # matsl: just days now 00.35.30 # Any chans of changeing the default wps screen for 1,2? 00.35.34 # there's a distortion bug we wanted to attempt to fix first 00.35.52 # matsl: you have any patch pending? 00.36.45 # Sort of but these UI things are a lot a subject of opinion 00.37.05 # yes 00.37.37 # but I favour doing it one way first and having that way tested out, than just discussion theories on the list 00.38.08 # Bagder: Yes I know but my patches don't get in either ;-) 00.38.16 # z ! 00.38.21 # hehe 00.38.57 # we're actually too few that applies patches 00.39.09 # Bagder: So I just wanted to know if there would be any idea to supply a patch at this stage. 00.39.19 # sure 00.39.27 # keep 'em coming ;-) 00.40.18 Join darkhollow [0] (darkhollow@1Cust194.tnt3.ashland.ky.da.uu.net) 00.40.29 # hello rockboxers! 00.41.00 # Bagder: Should I resubmit the once I already have posted? 00.41.14 # please do 00.42.12 # Bagder: How many colors are allowed in the t-shirt contest? :) 00.42.15 # Bagder: Ok! 00.42.34 # dwihno: basicly any amount, it'll be a full-color print 00.42.46 # can anyone answer this question? -- i recently recorded a band practice using the archos std firmware, but instead of pressing the 'stop' button when ending the recording, i just turned the unit off. now the file is no where to be found, but it must be on the disk somewhere right? is there any way to recover it? 00.43.48 # Bagder: ah, such a luxury ;D 00.46.44 # What is the status of text input? 00.47.03 # text input? 00.47.40 # like the onscreen keypad on the recorder, for filenames, etc? 00.47.42 # bagder: Jepp! I have done a small text input experiment. 00.48.02 # aha 00.48.19 # Havent seen the recorder so I don't know what it can do. 00.48.38 # i havent seen the player... 00.48.58 # on the recorder, you can enter id3 info for the song you're recording 00.49.23 # ok. 00.50.24 # does anyone have a clue about recovering that lost recording? i know it's not rockbox related, but it would be super helpful... 00.50.37 # for me that is :-) 00.50.52 # darkhollow: probably using some kind of checkdisk utility or something 00.52.02 # alright. i'll give it a try and hope for the best. gotta untie the phone line though. thanks, cu l8er 00.52.04 Part darkhollow 00.56.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.57.56 Quit edx ("good night") 01.06.49 # "Open Source, basically, is about hanging out with the cool guys." 01.06.54 # http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/301-350/00325_open_source_speech.html 01.16.13 # Need some sleep ;-) cu 01.16.19 # night matsl 01.16.24 Quit matsl ("Liece") 01.57.01 # night 01.57.03 Part Bagder 02.56.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.28.02 Quit Synthe ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 03.39.56 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 04.56.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.57.00 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 07.13.15 Join Linus [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 07.13.35 # haha! i was here before Bagder! 07.18.36 # Linus!!! 07.18.42 Nick elinenbe|out is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.18.46 # it is a late night here. 07.18.52 # I made a nice little patch. 07.18.54 # early morning here 07.19.05 # it speeds up the directory browsing. 07.19.13 # wow. 07.19.16 # considerable. 07.19.17 # how? 07.19.27 # well, it is for the recorder. 07.19.45 # when you press down, it will go file by file for the first 8 files 07.19.53 # and then it will go screen by screen. 07.20.12 # it works great! 07.20.55 # send it to the list 07.21.03 # I will get it out in a few. 07.21.06 # that is what people have been waiting for 07.21.38 # well, it is only for the down button. 07.21.48 # also, is there a hold down event? 07.22.14 # I have 290 files in my directory and it takes 8 times quicker to browse them... 07.22.14 # the repeated keys have the BUTTON_REPEAT bit set 07.22.25 # ahhh... 07.22.40 # case BUTTON_DOWN | BUTTON_REPEAT 07.22.48 # well, I will send this off to the list, but then I will clean it up to use that. 07.23.00 # ahhhhh! 07.23.02 # duh! 07.23.04 # well :-) 07.23.54 # make sure it compiles for player too 07.24.16 # yeah, I will do that. 07.27.18 # the patch will not do too much for the player. 07.27.40 # with only 2 lines, it is quite hard to achieve the same result. 07.27.54 # of course 07.36.17 # Linus: you there? 07.37.48 # yup 07.38.36 # try it out and tell me what you think 07.38.54 Quit webmind (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.38.54 Quit matp|work (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit adi|home (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit Synthe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit datazone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit mbr|gone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit Tumm (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit PiotR (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit fragglet (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit elinenbe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit Linus (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit Hadaka (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit dwihno (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit wettoad (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit PsycoXul (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.38.54 Quit adi|work (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.39.43 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.39.43 NJoin Linus [0] (~linus@193.15.23.131) 07.39.43 NJoin Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 07.39.43 NJoin PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 07.39.43 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.39.43 NJoin datazone [0] ([0x72LyCYj@207.136.36.203) 07.39.43 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@63.205.40.165) 07.39.43 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-165.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.39.43 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 07.39.43 NJoin matp|work [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 07.39.43 NJoin mbr|gone [0] (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 07.39.43 NJoin Tumm [0] (coyote@mysko.net) 07.39.43 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc1-guil4-0-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 07.39.43 NJoin wettoad [0] (~wettoad@194.95.13.192) 07.39.43 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@194.215.9.50) 07.39.43 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 07.39.43 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@151.204.138.24) 07.39.57 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.39.57 # morning 07.39.57 # hello Badger 07.39.58 # try the patch I just sent out! 07.40.01 # it is quite fun! 07.40.19 # ah, cool 07.40.34 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.40.52 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.41.21 # yo Bagder! 07.41.45 # Linus: we should get Björn to make one or both of us admins on sourceforge 07.42.02 # aren't we? 07.42.13 # nope 07.42.29 # that sucks 07.42.37 # I need input on the patch. 07.42.51 # yes, since only Björn can add project team members as it is right now 07.42.54 # I am falling asleep here. 07.42.58 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.43.04 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|deepsle (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.43.32 # elinenbe|deepsle: I can't try it for real until when I get home tonight 07.43.43 # I bet it won't work as nicely when run simulated 07.43.44 Nick elinenbe|deepsle is now known as elinenbe|dead (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 07.43.48 # night 07.44.30 # Bagder: i can update the tracker settings, can't you? 07.44.40 # yes I can 07.44.56 # elinenbe|dead: looks ok, but i would have used the REPEAT feature 07.45.13 # I would have used it too! 07.45.21 # I will redo in the morning. 07.45.27 # increasing the speed for every repeated key, and resetting it for every unrepetated key 07.45.45 # well, increasing the speed doesn;t work well. 07.45.54 # I tried it on 4 people here today. 07.46.03 # no one liked it when it just skipped displaying files. 07.46.16 # it is very easy, just let the case:s switch place and fall through 07.46.23 # I understand that. 07.46.40 # but to incrementally increase the speed is not as good as it sounds. 07.46.44 # ok 07.47.01 # if it skips showing lines on the screen, that is bad. 07.47.04 # goodnight. 07.47.14 # where is Zagor anyway? 07.47.46 # he just recently moved and has only an old 14k4 modem connection for the moment ;-) 07.49.53 # elinenbe|dead: the speed can be actual speed, not "number of lines per scroll" 07.50.43 # well, it is at max speed already -- right? 07.50.50 # so, we would make it go slower? 07.51.05 # no, not really 07.51.20 # i forgot that we already did it as fast as the repeat speed 08.13.27 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirt-contest/designs.html 08.13.42 # * Bagder reminds people ;-) 08.57.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.19.12 # morning 09.19.17 # morn 09.22.25 # can't reach server 09.22.59 Nick mbr|gone is now known as mbr (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 09.23.04 # Morning 09.23.08 # morning 09.24.31 # webmind: which server? 09.24.38 # webserver 09.24.41 # but ehm 09.24.45 # rockbox server? 09.24.46 # could be a problem here 09.24.51 # that url i just got 09.24.51 # i can reach it 09.24.57 # works fine here too 09.33.48 # mbr: you had problems with the RTC halting the updates, right? 09.35.28 Join edx [0] (edx@dhcp17.kph.uni-mainz.de) 09.35.29 # Yes. 09.35.46 # morning. 09.35.55 # i found that rtc_read() didn't send a STOP condition on the I2C bus 09.36.13 # that causes the RTC to stop updating the registers 09.36.16 # That fixes the update problem? 09.36.35 # until a STOP condition is found, or you read a non-clock register 09.36.42 # I written a rtc_init() function, but I still loose about 30 Seconds on a reboot . 09.36.44 # that should fix the update problem 09.37.21 # remove the rtc_init and try again 09.37.33 # I will try it. I also saw, that you commited my rtc_init(). Was it an accident? 09.37.38 # yes 09.37.41 # OK 09.38.55 # odd 09.38.59 # still doesn't work 09.40.51 # Same here. Clock is still halted after reboot. 09.41.31 # linus.. with the t-shirt contest 09.41.41 # was there a specific reason we can't do both a front and back? 09.42.20 # can't we? 09.42.33 # not really, I've just saved one side for a Haxx logo or something 09.42.46 # ahh.. okay... 09.42.49 # oh, now i remember 09.42.58 # is that the reason? 09.43.19 # yes 09.43.31 # so the idea being our design on front, theirs on the back? 09.43.33 # or vice versa? 09.43.44 # something like that 09.43.56 # hm 09.43.57 # hmmm... 09.44.00 # i have an idea... 09.44.02 # shoot 09.44.03 # changing batteries didn't help and the batteries seem fine 09.44.16 # Hadaka: time to return your unit 09.44.47 # actually - this feels _very_ much like the same thing that happens when you have a broken cord in your earphones - you twist and shake it - sometimes it sounds fine, sometimes nothing comes out, sometimes it just cracles 09.45.19 # http://www.haxx.se/who.html 09.45.20 # heheheheheheheeh 09.45.25 # Hadaka: probably bad soldering 09.45.34 # adi|home: *bing* ;-) 09.45.43 # hehehe sooooo sexy ;) 09.45.46 # hmm, whine 09.45.50 # * Bagder giggles 09.46.30 # any chance you could give me a better haxx logo then the one in the corner of the website? 09.46.40 # certainly 09.46.44 # hang on 09.46.47 # ty 09.48.09 # hm, now where is it... :-) 09.48.41 # lol 09.49.09 # I wouldn't want to wait for my unit to go ship somewhere and be possibly fixed and then shipped back to me 09.50.14 # Hadaka: then open your unit and fix it 10.00.30 # courtesy 10.00.41 # is that the correct spelling? 10.00.50 # nm 10.00.57 # yes 10.01.09 # * Bagder ran ispell in his emacs ;-) 10.05.12 # mbr: i know why you lose 30 secs 10.05.36 # Cool, why? 10.05.37 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@1Cust190.tnt13.stk3.da.uu.net) 10.05.43 # dr Zagor! 10.05.55 # bleh.. found problem.. opera dns caching 10.06.01 # hey guys, i'm back. 10.06.17 # mbr: my backlight_init resets the stop bit, clearing the seconds register in the process 10.06.18 # welcome you modem weenie ;-) 10.06.26 # shhh! :-) 10.06.31 # caveman 10.06.51 # mbr: i am fixing it now 10.07.10 # Zagor, your black ?? 10.07.35 # yeah, bro! ;) 10.10.33 # uh-oh, ESR steps in... 10.10.48 # where? 10.10.55 # libcurl mailing list 10.11.03 # i saw it 10.11.05 # morning dudes! :D 10.11.17 # morn 10.11.28 # watch out for concealed handguns :) 10.11.35 # heheh 10.11.41 # and don 10.11.46 # 't mention bitkeeper 10.12.20 # hmm what i miss? 10.12.53 # ESR is Eric S Raymond 10.13.00 # kind of a celebrity 10.14.14 # *yawn* 10.14.21 # I am so not-bright-as-rain! 10.14.40 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 10.16.04 # hi MeRWiN 10.16.13 # mbr: fixes committed 10.16.31 # I'll try it 10.17.09 # hey linus 10.18.16 # Morning 10.18.20 # morn 10.18.23 # hi Hes 10.19.23 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.20.23 # is there a vote thingie or something for the tshirt contest ? 10.20.45 # webmind: there will be, when the submission period is ovber 10.20.48 # webmind: we're still only accepting submissions 10.20.55 # ok 10.21.01 # hm 10.21.08 # no pain program here.. 10.21.21 # Bagder, linus: you two are now SF admins 10.21.26 # Linus: There is a include to powermgmt.h in apps/main.c 10.21.27 # okidoki 10.21.33 # That calls for celebration!!!!! 10.21.37 # COFFEE! 10.21.47 # *RED BUILDS* 10.21.48 # *RED BUILDS* 10.21.52 # mbr: i am silly 10.22.12 # hm, my script seems to have gone bananas on that 10.22.15 # i had the chargin patch applied by mistake 10.22.47 # Whoops 8-) 10.23.08 # Hes: you got a sf account name? 10.23.26 # hessuh 10.26.29 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.26.38 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@c213-89-105-64.cm-upc.chello.se) 10.29.01 # Linus/Zagor: I'll mail Arne 10.31.06 # coffee 10.34.01 # does anyone actually work on the improved full-dir playing? 10.35.52 # i am about to start 10.35.59 # ok! ;-) 10.36.36 # MeRWiN: dod you do anything on the RAM playlists? 10.36.38 # did 10.43.22 Quit MeRWiN () 10.43.27 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 10.45.57 # is the charger patch going in soonish? 10.46.11 # * Zagor just got a ROLO in the mail... 10.46.17 # *kewl* 10.46.36 # i would much rather get a snickers bar in the mail 10.46.54 # actually, it's not a rolo in the pure sense. it's instead the capability to "play" archos.mod files... 10.47.04 # rather neat 10.47.11 # wow 10.47.18 # excuse me? 10.47.20 # play it? 10.47.26 # load it 10.47.28 # and run it 10.47.29 # in the dir browser 10.47.32 # yup 10.47.44 # I like that 10.47.57 # that's actually cooler than a stand-alone rolo 10.48.07 # i think so too 10.48.24 # so... dynamic loading of the mod file? 10.48.32 # yes 10.48.33 # yeah 10.48.46 # wow... add that one in definately :) 10.48.46 # Zagor: does it descramble too? 10.48.49 # yup 10.48.55 # c00lness 10.48.57 # cool :D 10.49.15 # We might need a file filter for that 10.49.16 # who wrote it? 10.49.17 # so you could have the regular archos.mod from archos in there and load it if you want to? 10.49.28 # Bagder: Randy Wood 10.49.33 # A true hero 10.49.40 # * Bagder joins the Randy Wood fan club 10.49.48 # MeRWiN: exactly 10.50.01 # Excellent news 10.50.03 # * MeRWiN nominates Randy Wood for addition to the credits (in bold) 10.50.09 # if he's not already there :) 10.50.10 # MERGE! MERGE! MERGE! 10.51.11 # he's posting it on the mailing list 10.51.12 # so really, with the emulator, we could just have a basically non-changing emulator that loads an archos.mod file :) 10.51.38 # MeRWiN: sure, just write an archos hardware emulator. piece of cake :) 10.52.03 # Zagor: That's something I've been wanting... much easier 10.53.12 # anyone know if the recent change to the simulator gets rid of the need totally for a numeric keypad? 10.53.51 # i hope so 10.54.09 # my laptop has a crappy numeric keypad. it really doesn't even work with the sim 10.56.13 # it does 10.57.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.57.58 # bagder: I have problems with wps-screen in the simulator. It allways displays just Playing.... 10.58.26 # i want Hes to commit the charger patch 10.59.03 # the wps is not easily simulated 10.59.13 # properly 10.59.28 # bagder: Ok. So its a know problem then 10.59.37 # yes 11.00.06 Quit Hadaka ("Changing server") 11.00.13 # :-( 11.01.17 # Linus: I'll look into it 11.02.01 # g'nite... goin' to bed 11.02.05 # perfect 11.02.10 # nite MeRWiN 11.02.13 # nite lin 11.02.26 Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Sleep (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 11.02.36 # Hes: can you look into the possibility of a filtered_battery_level() function 11.03.03 # I'll add an #define ENABLE_CHARGER in config-recorder.h so that the charger can be enabled & disabled easily 11.03.12 # Hes: good 11.03.13 # and replace the #ifdef ARCHOS_RECORDER's with that 11.03.18 # in my patch 11.03.26 # no 11.03.50 # i mean, around the charger code only 11.04.00 # use HAVE_CHARGE_CTRL or something 11.04.13 # Ok 11.04.18 # Bagder: you stil around? 11.04.35 # * Bagder is here 11.05.09 # take a look at that 11.05.13 # youll need to pull it down 11.05.20 # not displaying on the web for somereason 11.05.34 # id have the front part i showed you earlier over the breast 11.05.39 # Linus: rtc now doesn't loose seconds 11.05.47 # mbr: great 11.05.47 # ty 11.06.25 Join ironi_ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 11.10.51 # * adi|home heads to bed 11.10.55 # nite 11.11.04 # night adi 11.22.18 # so, does anyone object if I remove the mpeg_stop on the left button in the dir browser? 11.22.43 # it will force users to go wps and press stop/off there 11.22.59 # why not always stop on STOP? 11.23.11 # in the dir browser 11.23.15 # stop for stop 11.23.23 # because stop is dir exit on players 11.23.28 # ah 11.23.39 # ok, but at least for recorder 11.23.48 # ya 11.23.51 # at least for the recorder :) 11.23.52 # yes, recorders could stop on OFF even in the dir browser 11.24.02 # which it doesn't do right now 11.24.11 # yup 11.25.48 # we should start writing some docs 11.39.41 # "... and remember - only YOU can prevent forest fires!" 11.57.23 # hey, you playlist users! 11.57.23 Quit MeRWiN|Sleep (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.57.52 # (?) 11.58.01 # is the playlist supposed to run forever? 11.58.14 # good q 11.58.17 # I dunno 11.58.18 # silly 11.58.34 # it should be configurable 11.58.38 # we should at least have a 'repeat' setting 11.58.47 # yes, you're right 11.58.49 # repeat 1, repeat all, random 11.58.50 # now it just goes on forever 11.59.00 # and yeah, "normal mode" too 11.59.13 # repeat should be independent of ransom 11.59.17 # random 11.59.25 # true 11.59.50 # a ransom mode? ;-P 12.00.06 # ok, i'll leave the repeat as it is now, and concentrate on the RAM playlists 12.00.31 # The auto-build playlist feature would be pretty kickass too 12.01.15 # dwihno: that is the intention 12.01.37 # no need for RAM playlists for anything else 12.01.40 # must work ;-( cu 12.01.44 # cu 12.01.46 # cu 12.01.50 # cul8r :-) 12.02.07 Quit matsl ("Liece") 12.03.13 # the "press on to return to dir browser" text only appears when playing a dir? 12.17.16 # ransom mode, yeah. "Donate $20 to rockbox t-shirt pool to enable your device again" 12.19.16 # dwihno: yes 12.19.38 # Linus: Have you noticed any visual WPS glitches? 12.19.58 # several, which one do you mean 12.20.48 # 1) press 'on' in the WPS, return to dir browser. 2) press 'on', return to WPS, filename display shows only the first 2 chars 12.21.03 # when dir playing withg random=true, is it important that the file that the cursor is pointing to is played first? 12.21.14 # dwihno: yeah i heard that 12.22.29 # Linus: it should if random is active, yes... but when adding the dir using the 'play-entire-dir' function, it should pick a random file for the first track 12.27.17 # dwihno: if the directory is randomized, the first entry in the temporary playlist will be random, so we don't need to pick a random location? 12.28.13 # I don't understand what you mean :) 12.28.36 # Never mind then 8-) 12.28.53 # there are two cases: 12.29.19 # 1) The user selects "play entire dir" somehow. this function is not implemented 12.29.42 # 2) The users selects a file in the browser and pushes PLAY 12.30.00 # (somehow: probably clicks 'play' on a directory entry in the browser) 12.30.06 # in case 1 it should randomize and play like a normal playlist 12.30.16 # Hes: no 12.30.33 # on the player, PLAY enters the directory 12.30.41 # Ah, right. 12.30.56 # in case 2 it should probably randomize, but still play the selected file first 12.34.34 # My point exactly :) 12.36.59 # I'm about to commit the charger. 12.37.02 # then, should it play until the end of the directory or should it wrap? 12.37.23 # Hes: great! have you compiled for all targets, including simulator? 12.37.47 # The simulator builds did not start for me at all. 12.37.49 # for some reason. 12.38.10 # have you created a dir called "archos"? 12.38.11 # Linus: how about making that a configurable option? 12.38.29 # the config menu gets longer and longer... 12.39.05 # Configurability rules! :) 12.39.08 # configure creates the archos subdir 12.39.21 # Some kind of docs should be written for 1.3 12.39.22 # make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/src/archos/src/uisimulator/x11' 12.39.22 # make[1]: *** No rule to make target `mpeg.c', needed by `/opt/src/archos/src/build/.deps/mpeg.d'. Stop. 12.39.22 # make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/archos/src/uisimulator/x11' 12.41.17 # Ahh.. the simulator did build 12.42.46 # dwihno: 1.3 isn't planned yet 12.43.12 # I know :-) That gives a lot of time to do docs :) 12.48.06 # Now i've tested all targets 8-) 12.48.19 # rock'n'roll 12.48.34 # have you made a filtered battery_level() function? 12.49.00 # I'll merge that in afterwards 12.49.16 # I practically have made it, will just have to replace the old one 8-) 12.49.35 # cool 12.49.47 # and make it ignore empty samples 12.49.53 # right after boot-up 12.49.59 # noce 12.50.00 # nice 12.51.18 # here we goooo 12.54.58 # There. 12.55.49 # now we need mbr's status line too to see the charging symbol ;-) 12.57.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.44 # Hes: is there an is_charging() function? 12.58.44 # * Hes hides behind the coffee machine in the coffee room to escape flying coffee mugs due to broken builds and dead batteries 12.59.15 # extern bool charger_enabled; 12.59.16 # in power.h 13.00.39 # ok 13.00.46 # and a charger_connected too? 13.01.08 # Yeah, the old bool charger_inserted(void); 13.01.30 # * Zagor notes there is now a ship date for Archos Multimedia: August 12, 2002 13.01.45 # i only charged the threshold there so that it won't return false right after charging is enabled on an empty battery (the ext power voltage drops pretty low at that point) 13.02.10 # good 13.02.30 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirt-contest/designs.html 13.02.38 # design number 4 is there 13.03.42 # umm, we should probably tell people the url is about to change :) 13.03.55 # I will enhance the charger to detect connected/disconnected charger faster 13.04.09 # I wouldn't print the URL on the shirt 8-) 13.04.17 # Zagor: yeah 13.08.48 # Maybe the front page news item could mention that configuration saving has been implemented on all platforms... if USB display is listed too 13.09.16 # and maybe charging too. And any other large improvements that have been made? 13.09.35 # maybe we should make a 'news submit' form so that people can submit news easier 13.10.15 # Import news from CVS maybe. 13.10.44 # well, the site is built from the www module in CVS so all CVS comitters can add news already now 13.11.10 # Oh. 13.12.27 # That module is a bit larger. 8-) 13.12.37 # yes, all those pics ;-) 13.12.38 # lots of pictures 13.13.50 # As I was taking a shower I started to think about visual playlist navigation... Is it possible to make such a thing without consuming all memory? 13.15.09 # it depends on what you mean with "visual playlist navigation" 13.15.24 # Like winamp 13.15.26 # or such 13.15.38 # where you actually can "see" the playlist 13.15.47 # oh, that'll certainly be possible 13.15.56 # we'll just not load the whole file at once 13.16.47 # now i know why people complain so much about how long it takes to playe the next file when pressing RIGHT 13.17.05 # it is the playlist_next() file seek that takes time 13.17.24 # oh 13.17.31 # so maybe it is time to add some caching 13.17.57 # i will, soon 13.21.14 # the playlist code is very silly 13.21.31 # not even playlists are immune to directory changes in the dir browser 13.21.50 # I added two news items (charging, config saving) 13.22.01 # Linus: you mean because of relative paths? 13.22.07 # yes 13.22.24 # playlist_next() takes a "dir" argument 13.22.40 # and tree.c passes currdir 13.23.12 # When does the web site build, and do www module updates go to the CVS activity view too? 8-) 13.23.44 # why does playlist_next() take a dir argument at all? 13.24.19 # Hes: the www commits are not shown in the CVS activity and is not posted to the cvs mailing lsit 13.24.34 # it updates every 20 mins or so I think 13.25.07 # yup, every 20 min 13.25.19 # Excellent... at what offset? 0, 20, 40? 13.25.40 # uh no, the bug list is every 20. the web page is every hour, on the hour. 13.27.45 # [ 573367 ] batteries are not charged ... could probably be closed now? 13.27.59 # yup 13.28.54 # closed 13.32.27 # I'll add a comment 13.35.51 # Has the WPS patch with additional battery / volume bars been merged? 13.36.11 # no 13.36.19 # mkay 13.39.22 # i'm off to change dialup account. see you later. 13.39.31 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 13.39.46 # what's a deep discharge? 13.40.27 # dwihno: it makes the batter discharge a lot before charging again 13.40.32 # batteries 13.41.01 # like if you use your box with the charger connected always 13.41.40 # ah, okay 13.41.52 # so there is no "disable batteries, run from power cord" stuff? 13.42.07 # dwihno: the hardware cannot do that 13.43.08 # Hes: ah, okay... Well, then I guess the deep discharge feature is needed. 13.43.26 # I like the battery charging graph :) 13.43.37 # It looks pretty cool. 13.44.07 # So what happens when the batteries are full? 13.44.15 # Some message to the user? 13.45.39 # no 13.46.04 # Is there something preventing overcharging? 13.46.06 # could it be done with a hardware mod ? 13.46.11 # later on, when the status bar is there, the battery will animate, as the stock firmware 13.46.25 # Cool 13.46.50 # or something 13.46.55 # dwihno: battery full condition is detected... and there is a timer too just in case the detection fails 13.47.05 # whoops, forgot to drop the timer down btw. 13.47.12 # fix that 13.47.19 # Right away, yes. 13.47.42 # How hard would it be to replace the plastic covering the display? 13.47.46 # 6H should be good, or 4? 13.47.57 # 6 13.47.58 # My unit has gotten a teensy bit scratched and it's a bit annoying 13.49.39 # hmm, online firmware still no updates 13.50.20 # webmind: what do you mean? 13.51.00 # firmware from archos self is still on 5.07 while i got 5.08 when i bought mine begin may 13.51.04 # they're slow :) 13.51.18 # That's why Rockbox really rocks the box! :) 13.52.02 # Linus: Judging from your experience from taking the unit apart, do you think it's possible to replace the LCD-plastic cover? 13.52.08 # of course 13.52.21 # if you can find a replacement plastic cover 13.53.09 # hmm 13.53.50 # How much would I need to replace? I have never disassembled my unit, so I don't know :-) 13.54.47 # i think you can remove the plastic window 13.54.55 # but it is probably glued 13.56.43 # dwihno, open it and see for yourself? :) 13.57.28 # webmind: nah, I'd love to keep my warranty - at least until I get a 40gig replacement drive ;) 13.57.53 # heh 13.58.18 # * webmind s well.. prolly will open it within the year though 13.58.26 # taking stuff apart to tweak is fun 13.59.03 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@dhcp113.contactor.se) 13.59.30 # design number 5 added 13.59.37 # Don various changes to statusbar patch. Someone willing to test? 13.59.56 # Shall I post it to the ml? 14.00.18 # go go go! ;-) 14.00.22 Join liam_ [0] (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 14.00.56 # you ready for a user's manual? ;-O 14.01.31 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/ 14.01.47 # there to get improved by *you* 14.02.24 # that reminds me. a quick "screenshot" key to the simulator wouldn't be a bad thing 14.02.37 # true 14.03.55 Nick liam_ is now known as jedix` (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 14.03.56 # I wonder if libpng is easy to use 14.05.17 # btw anyone tried the multimedia btw? :) 14.06.29 # Nhaw... It looks pretty neat though :-) 14.06.36 # I just wonder what kind of video it boasts. 14.08.01 # Whoops. I broke the front page somehow. I wonder what happened? 14.08.28 # weirdness 14.08.39 # Bagder: Can you compile simulator and firmware under windows? 14.09.11 # mbr: I don't build under windows, I build the win32 simulator using a cross-compiler on linux 14.09.19 # www/main.t looks good when I checkout 14.09.25 # I moved the slidebar and progressbar to recoder/widgets.[ch] and had to modify makefiles. I have no possibility to test. 14.09.38 # Hes: there's a collision with what was there before 14.09.41 # i'll fix it 14.09.46 # Bagder: OK 14.09.50 # Oh, ok. 14.09.57 # mbr: but others have done it 14.10.17 # I'm not very experienced with CVS, just RCS mostly 8-) 14.11.01 # fixed 14.11.21 # it wasn't your fauly 14.12.08 # whew 14.15.29 # 65k rubber ducks: http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvakoosteet/maailmankuvia/isokuva.asp?kuva=4263 14.17.58 # i'm playing a dir in a dynamically created playlist... 14.18.26 # rock 14.18.28 # Cool Linus! 14.19.33 # i can imagine that people have had problems with playlists before 14.19.48 # because of ... ? 14.19.54 # because the playlists were dependent of the current directory 14.20.03 # in the dirbrowser 14.20.06 # Linus: that is only very recently added 14.20.20 # the dir argument? 14.20.25 # no, but the usage of it 14.20.26 # and only matters for entries with relative path 14.21.57 # speaking of browser, who wants to optimize the dircache memory usage? 14.22.12 # the current solution with entry structs wastes memory 14.22.29 # it is better to separate the attributes and the names 14.22.39 # then we can pack the name data 14.22.45 # true 14.22.52 Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t6o975p89.telia.com) 14.23.07 # * Zagor is off for new adventures in dial-up land... 14.23.09 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 14.30.04 # When the batteries are full, is the meter supposed to drop to zero? 14.30.45 # what meter? 14.31.45 # debug, battery 14.34.27 # What exactly in there? 14.34.49 # the battery voltage meter 14.34.58 # it was raising and now it dropped to sero 14.35.01 # the graph or the voltage measurement? 14.35.11 # graph 14.35.23 # Hmm, interesting, it shouldn't. What is the scale now? 14.35.25 # dwihno: what scale? 14.37.07 # 5.23-5.46 14.37.18 # then it isn't zero 14.37.24 # it's 5.23 14.37.29 # the graph has dropped to zero 14.37.31 # that's what I ment 14.37.37 # The graph is auto-scaling, lowest value visible is 5.23 14.38.04 # The voltage naturally drops quite a bit as soon as the charger is disconnected/disabled 14.38.10 # arf. okay 14.38.43 # since the external power supply offers a higher voltage than the batteries supply... and this difference causes some energy to flow in the batteries to cause the charging effect 8-) 14.39.29 # It would be interesting to know what voltage does the stock archos firmware stop charging at... in practice 14.39.44 # with the same set of cells 14.40.56 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 14.44.21 Quit mistaRx () 14.46.14 # we should have a go at multi-line scroll in the wps too 14.47.01 # Bagder: just read your manual 14.47.06 # good work. 14.47.08 # woo ;-) 14.47.16 # pretty basic still 14.47.36 # really easy to read and since it is not too large you can find what you need in a few seconds 14.47.53 # i would not advance it much more, only add the entries for the menu items... 14.48.02 # (of course) 14.48.09 # and add the missing screen dumps 14.48.43 # yea.. with the screendumps, i'd say its nearly perfect. 14.49.02 # we really dont need such a detailed expression (like pictures where the buttons are on the device :P) 14.49.15 # such a = much more 14.49.26 # * edx misexpressed himself 14.50.12 # I'll try to fill in some more later 14.50.14 # can anyone remember why there is a sleep(HZ) last in play_list()? 14.50.44 # no clue 14.50.57 # try cvs annotate 14.51.07 # Hah, nice. WPS shows nothing :) 14.51.29 # ? 14.51.41 # WPS, parse mode 14.51.43 # Shows NOTHING :-) 14.51.50 # Except the progress meter and time stuff 14.52.03 # Linus: Zagor added it in 1.10 14.52.04 # Bagder: you forgot MENU and +/- for volume on the player 14.52.50 # ah 14.53.20 # hmm a storm is coming up over here :/ 14.53.25 # bye summer.. 14.56.31 # what does Kjell do -- why is he not helping out on the project? 14.56.35 Nick elinenbe|dead is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 14.56.49 # he's a lazy bastard ;-) 14.57.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.28 # Someone got my patch via ml? I sent it with no error, but seems that its gone to a black hole 15.03.45 # it might've gone to Björn due to its size 15.03.59 # was it big? 15.04.12 # nearly 60kb 15.04.33 # then Björn got it and needs to approve it to get to the list 15.04.48 # because i reindented a section 15.04.58 # :-) 15.05.26 Join PrimeSource [0] (Prime@ip68-13-126-168.om.om.cox.net) 15.05.33 # mbr: björn is a modem loser 15.05.40 # zip it and mail it again 15.05.55 # mbr: what does it do? 15.05.58 # Say nothing against modem USERS :) 15.06.19 # elinenbe: new version of the status bar patch 15.11.10 # gziped version is on it way ... 15.12.47 # RAM-based playlists committed 15.13.12 # Linus: is there any timing for a BUTTON_REPEAT? What I am trying to say is if you hold a button down, it sets the button repeat flag, but if you let go of the button, and then hit it one second later, will that set the BUTTON_REPEAT flag? 15.13.38 # Linus: what does the RMA-based playlist do? 15.13.46 # sorry RAM-based 15.13.48 # elinenbe: it resets the repeat timer for every keypress 15.14.01 # and how long is the repeat timer? 15.14.05 # it can have a playlist in memory 15.14.43 # the repeat timer is 6 poll intervals, then 4 for each repeat, and the poll interval is HZ/20 15.14.57 # ah... ok another question. 15.14.59 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@dhcp117.contactor.se) 15.15.06 # aaaah, finally proper callback 15.15.35 # with the new RAM-based playlists, could you now add -- playing this directory and all directories under this? 15.15.44 # like if you hit play on a directory? 15.15.49 # no, not in this version 15.15.59 # feel free to add it 15.16.12 # okay. 15.16.37 # now there is directory shuffle? right? 15.16.41 Nick Linus is now known as Linus|latelunch (~linus@193.15.23.131) 15.16.43 # mbr: if you gimme your sourceforge user name, I'll give you CVS commit access 15.18.50 # hehe 15.19.08 # I could do 'nslookup' and then 'ls s.bonet.se' 15.19.11 # Bagder: it's malle 15.19.19 # quite a few hosts ;-) 15.21.44 # mbr: you're added 15.22.03 # cool! 15.23.52 # ah 15.23.55 # a nice walk outdoors :) 15.33.17 Nick Linus|latelunch is now known as Linus (~linus@193.15.23.131) 15.33.57 # patching file `firmware/drivers/lcd.c' 15.33.57 # Assertion failed: hunk, file patch.c, line 321 15.34.01 # what the ... 15.34.07 # ! 15.45.23 # Great work Linus! 15.45.46 # 20020806-statusbar.diff didn't quite apply to the current cvs 8-) 15.46.01 # Not after my playlist fixes 15.46.15 # mbr: maybe you could try to cync it? 15.46.19 # sync 15.46.31 # What about merging the statusbar? 15.47.09 # and add my USB icon too while you're at it ;-) 15.47.11 # Linus: Yes. Currently working on it. 15.47.16 # great 15.47.33 # my RAM-playlist hack needs some tweaks 15.47.54 # currently, it only plays from the current file to the end of the dir 15.48.03 # it should probably wrap 15.48.30 # and when shuffling, it also shuffles the file where the cursor is at 15.50.00 # mbr: could the status bar setting go to byte 0x0e instead of a new byte? 15.50.09 # would save a little config memory for now 15.52.21 # Hes: the 90% charge threshold could maybe be random, to avoid memory effects even further 15.52.48 # uhm 8-) 15.53.09 # Would that really work? 15.53.10 # maybe 90% is a bit low 15.53.17 # Might be 15.53.43 # Linus: if I am playing songs, and then I turn on the shuffle it does not currently shuffle (this is in a directory) 15.54.05 # oops 15.54.50 # elinenbe: are you sure? 15.57.19 # sorry about that. it works. 15.57.37 # but it only creates a playlist from the file I pick until the last file in the directory. 15.57.54 # yes, i wrote that 15.57.58 # so, if I pick the 10th song in a list of 20 to play first, then it will only shuffle between songs 10 - 20/ 15.58.09 # that seems odd. 15.58.15 # yes, i said that a few minutes ago 15.58.22 # currently, it only plays from the current file to the end of the dir 15.58.33 # it should probably wrap 15.59.27 # well, it should play from current file to the end when not in shuffle mode 15.59.37 # sure? 15.59.37 # but in shuffle mode, it should randomly play the entire directory. 15.59.48 # that is the way my CD player is. 16.00.03 # i'll do that later 16.00.07 # i have to go now 16.00.13 # cu guys! 16.00.27 # byebye! :) 16.00.42 Part Linus 16.00.46 # byebye, now you die! :) 16.02.46 # Hes: Are you here? 16.03.32 # Hes: You can get the latest patch on http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb (i won't spam the ml :) 16.03.43 # Ok, thanks 16.03.45 # I'll try it rightaway :) 16.06.34 # Coolness, it works! 16.06.52 # looking good? 16.07.49 # Yeah 16.07.58 # neato 16.08.23 # any issue pending or is this reaching commit status? 16.08.32 # * dwihno sees something 16.08.57 # dwihno: What? 16.09.19 # is that the time on the recorder in the top right? 16.09.19 # switch to 'parse' mode in the WPS 16.09.41 # mbr: you will see that the first line isn't displayed. 16.10.17 # that parse mode should put the filename in the middle in a big font anyway. 16.10.28 # dwihno: The first line is the filename? Then i don't see it .. 16.10.32 # something like that. why all the blank space? 16.10.43 # *whoa* 16.10.59 # my rockbox froze 16.10.59 # mbr: First line: artist, album etc. Second line, file name 16.11.03 # (?) 16.11.17 # * dwihno sends the microwave oven to Bagder to heat it up again 16.11.23 # I'm gone, seeya 16.11.29 # later. 16.11.30 # cul8r 16.11.36 # weeeirdness 16.13.18 # dwihno: Found the bug. 16.13.51 # I don't think that the speaker icon is necessary for the volume. 16.14.14 # it should have a normal icon or shuffle icon instead. 16.14.19 # for the play mode. 16.14.29 # and I am sure repeat will be added soon too. 16.14.30 # the volume bar should be more responsive, methinks 16.15.10 # dwihno: \agreed 16.15.51 # You mean seeing a difference every volumechange? or faster? 16.16.16 # seeing a difference every volume change would be hard 16.16.27 # The speaker icon is canceled when volume is 0 (mute) 16.16.34 # as there is a huge volume range, and a small display 16.16.38 # Thought it would be nice to see that. 16.16.47 # but it would be nice to see that. 16.17.56 # I had a wider volume gauge where you saw more changed, but linus wanted a smaller one 8) 16.18.11 # hehe, yes he wanted a bigger battery one 16.18.25 # * Bagder hasn't seen it yet 16.18.27 # get rid of the fake clock. 16.18.34 # that is pointless to see on the screen. 16.18.51 # It is not faked :) 16.19.10 # well, it is still unnecessary on the main screen 16.19.17 # speaking of a clock can you all make this thing show the time of day that would be cool 16.19.49 # PrimeSource: elinenbe wants to remove this :) 16.19.55 # Me too! :) 16.20.25 # I think battery / volume / state (play/stop/pause/ff/rw) / playmode (repeat/shuffle/normal/etc.) 16.21.54 # where does it get the time from? (the initial time) 16.21.57 # does it just make it up? 16.22.20 # you can set the time using the stock firmware 16.22.39 # ahhh... so it uses that. 16.22.55 # elinenbe: time is read from rtc 16.23.18 # how do you do a hold on the recorder? (button-lock) 16.23.47 # read the docs! :-P 16.23.52 # * Bagder giggles 16.24.04 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/rec-wps.html 16.24.40 # I see a bug. the song name scrolls through the button lock message. 16.24.51 # statu line should how if buttons are locked or not. 16.24.59 # insted of that extra screnn 16.25.55 # good idea 16.27.08 # i'll put a lock icon to the status bar, also an indicator for (shuffle/repeat/normal) 16.28.15 # you will need icons for a whole bunch of stuff (for future play modes that is) 16.30.29 # there are some ideas here. 16.31.33 # check out http://down.iriver.com/iriveramerica/support/manuals/imp350e-v200_manual.pdf and look at the playmodes and icons on page 14 of the manual / page 15 of the pdf 16.34.17 # are you guys adding all this to the recorder? i don't think my player screen has room for all that. 16.34.24 # i need a recorder 16.34.39 # yes, the recorder 16.34.56 # the player has fixed "icons" that can't be changed 16.35.07 # that sucks 16.36.13 # i've had this thing for awhile. i got it when they first came out. well this is the 2nd one the 1st one melted. 16.37.47 # melted? 16.37.52 # like in the sun? 16.38.14 # nope from the power cord that came with it 16.38.28 # uhm 16.38.28 # bad 16.38.41 # archos sent me a new one 16.38.59 # heh 16.39.04 # i had a player before too 16.39.16 # i damaged it somehow.. they sent me a recorder :P 16.39.25 # (for free, of course) 16.40.00 # i dont think it was out yet when mine melted 16.40.16 # yea.. its been like 6months ago 16.49.01 Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t1o75p19.telia.com) 16.49.31 # Recorder = kickass 16.50.10 # has rockbox got a hold function? 16.50.17 # for the players? 16.50.22 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/rec-wps.html <-- read how to do it 16.50.28 # mistaRx: yes 16.50.36 # roger 16.50.45 # The documentation is already handy :-) 16.50.46 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/play-wps.html 16.50.51 # that's the player page actually 16.50.51 # oops 16.50.53 # sme bad 16.50.54 # sorry 16.50.56 # me so sorry! 16.50.58 # me sorry long time 16.51.27 # I should probably add links between the recorder/player versions 16.57.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.57.28 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@p5082DDFB.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.59.20 # do u appear to have less skipping withthe rockbox firmware?! 16.59.53 # * Bagder doesn't know 17.00.02 # I've hardly used the stock firmware ;-) 17.00.11 # =) 17.00.23 # but do u get skipping then?! 17.00.27 # no 17.00.49 # but I don't move around much with it 17.00.59 # ok.. 17.01.39 # I have ALLOT less skipping & probs with the rockbox!! 17.01.53 # with my AJBP6k 17.01.55 # that's cool indeed 17.02.11 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@dialup-65.59.17.63.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) 17.03.17 # Indeed, withthe stock firmware u can't change the song without it messing up about a half-minute into the next song(for ONE example) 17.04.14 # and it doesn't spin up directly when u press the next button! 17.04.46 # ni gör ett häst jobb grabbar!! 17.04.54 # =) 17.05.41 # yumyum 17.05.43 # * Bagder grins 17.05.53 # * dwihno ate yumyum-mat 17.06.25 # later people 17.06.31 Quit PrimeSource ("2.0 Build 1515") 17.06.36 Quit dwihno (Remote closed the connection) 17.07.01 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 17.07.05 # oops 17.07.05 # why will safe settings be impleamented in the recorder 1.2 firmware but not in the player verison?! 17.07.25 # mistaRx: because the recorder version doesn't have to save to disk 17.07.59 # what does it do then?! 17.08.18 # it has a tiny battery backed-up memory 17.08.32 # ok 17.08.47 # Badger: save to disk is going to be in the next player version? 17.08.57 # so, the player save-settings must save stuff on disk, and that's why we hesitate a bit to enable it 17.09.22 # ah.... 17.09.22 # I think the save-settings for the player still needs some adjustments before going in for real 17.09.42 # I use it every day! 17.09.51 # Nemas Problemas! 17.10.06 # Bagder: messed up link to the t-shirt contest on the webpage 17.10.35 # zagor's on the case 17.10.46 # notice how the host name changed... :-) 17.10.55 # whoa 17.11.11 # Then I must update my t-shirt entry! :) 17.12.00 Quit mecraw () 17.12.09 # when will u impleament using the serial remote ?! 17.14.47 # tshirt page fixed 17.16.07 # verify the daily-build stuff too, it came a mail about it 17.16.34 # i'm on it. mail archive first. 17.21.10 # daily builds fixed. anything else i've missed? 17.21.19 # dwihno: I can't receive dcc here 17.21.44 # oh, gotta go! 17.21.46 Part Bagder 17.23.29 # is anybody working on remote control support, or when are u planing to impleament it?! 17.25.38 # we're not working on it at the moment 17.26.01 # but it's not a very big job, so someone will probably fix it soon 17.44.06 # ok 17.50.10 # if someone could give me a leg-up i would love to work on the remote... i tried reading from the serial, but it just blocked, i asked on this group, and someone told me that you need to enable interupt-based serial coms, and that was not yet done... i assume that there is an interupt vector somewhere which gets called when something comes in via the serial port, and that you have to enable the serial port, set the speed, and enable interupts, but the 17.56.13 Nick mbr is now known as mbr|gone (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 18.00.10 Join mecraw [0] (mecraw@12-252-105-241.client.attbi.com) 18.03.33 Quit Zagor (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.06.53 Quit edx ("later") 18.09.10 Quit pyvasene ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 18.16.05 Quit mecraw () 18.18.15 Join Bono1 [0] (~bonoski@12-246-166-137.client.attbi.com) 18.18.27 # i have a ? 18.18.46 # is there anyway to lock the buttons on the archos??? 18.19.09 # yes 18.19.16 # player or recorder? 18.20.35 Quit mistaRx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.21.33 # ripnetuk: I have written a remote routine but havent had time to debug it... 18.21.56 # I can send you the source if youre interested in debugging it! 18.23.13 # recorder 18.24.09 # Bono1: and you're using the rockbox software? 18.24.16 # not yet 18.24.52 # To enter the "lock" mode, just keep the 'on' button pressed for a while 18.25.35 # with the archos software?? 18.25.45 # yep 18.25.49 # KEWL 18.25.51 # and it's stated in the manual too :-) 18.25.52 # thanks 18.25.59 # really 18.26.03 # didnt see that 18.26.14 # For some gay reason, you can still change the volume while in the "locked" mode. 18.26.23 # LOL 18.26.29 # thats ok for my needs 18.26.36 # i ride a motorcycle 18.26.45 # and i keep pressing buttons 18.27.48 # The rockbox firmware is good enough for regular use now 18.27.57 # Unless you are using the recorder functionality 18.28.03 # can you use it with rockbox?? 18.28.14 # no i dont use the recorder 18.28.43 # rockbox works on all archos models 18.29.07 # sorry i ment to ask if i could lock the keys with rockbox 18.29.13 # Things like the 999 playlist limit has been resolved 18.29.31 # ive read that and thats kewl 18.30.17 # I think the locking is engaged by pressing f1+down or something like that 18.30.30 # f1?? 18.30.45 # F1 + DOWN 18.30.45 # Toggle key lock ON/OFF 18.30.50 # yeah 18.30.55 # the first of the three topmost buttons 18.30.56 # ok 18.31.08 # got it 18.31.52 # i hope that fixes my prob. 18.32.17 # on the bike with that damn pouch it stops some time 18.33.30 # The pouch is a really cool fashion statement .. ;) 18.36.30 # ROTFL 18.36.53 # that shit is gay as hell 18.37.12 # looking for a replacment 18.37.49 # some kind of nylon minidisc pouch might do the trick 18.38.12 # humm 18.38.48 # yeah the next chance i get i'm on the hunt 18.39.06 # have you done the volume mod?? 18.39.37 # volume mod? 18.40.07 # http://www.mctubster.com/sound.html 18.40.37 # http://www.fasttimesatridgemonthigh.org/jukebox6000/ 18.43.05 # Nope 18.43.14 # I'm quite happy with the volume level 18.45.34 # are you there ripnetuk??? 18.51.27 Quit notch () 18.55.07 # what headphones are you using?? 18.55.56 # Two pairs 18.56.00 # Sennheiser HD 570 18.56.54 # Sony MDR-EX 70 LP 18.57.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.57.14 # But I got 20/20 "crystal ears" :-) 18.59.52 # LOL i hear ya 19.00.20 # are the sony mdr-ex 70's ear buds 19.01.11 # yeah 19.16.37 Quit dwihno ("leaving") 19.16.46 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@dhcp111.contactor.se) 19.17.10 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 19.19.28 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 19.19.44 # Bagder: U got mail ;D 19.19.50 Quit Bono1 () 19.19.55 # * Bagder already fixed 19.20.23 # :-) 19.20.27 # You are ___SO___ fast! 19.20.34 # Bagder 19.21.39 # Is there an easy way to compile the simulator under windows? 19.21.49 # I only got mingw32 and not visual studio 19.22.03 # the makefile might work 19.22.17 # it works for mingw cross-compile under linux 19.23.48 # What do I need to check out to build it? 19.24.02 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html 19.24.19 # apps, firmware, uisimulator 19.24.59 # if you want, you can try the latest version I've auto-built 19.25.31 # that of course might not help if you wanna try some patching or similar 19.26.48 # I need to compile it since it's quite annoying to compile stuff for the target if I want to test.. 19.27.00 # right 19.27.19 # so get the sources and try running 'make' plainly in uisimulator/win32 19.27.31 # could work 19.27.50 # process_begin: CreateProcess((null), sh.exe -c "if [ ! -d ./.deps ]; then 19.27.50 # echo Creating the dependency directory: ./.deps; mkdir - 19.27.50 # ./.deps; fi", ...) failed. 19.27.50 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 19.27.50 # make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified. 19.27.50 # make: *** [.deps/mpeg.d] Error 2 19.28.08 # ah 19.28.44 # crap 19.29.08 # You bet it is! :) 19.30.13 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0193.shtml 19.30.36 # might help 19.54.20 Join Naked_ [0] (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 19.59.20 # notch - r u there??? sorry, boss turned up, had to work :( 19.59.36 # darned thos bosses ;-) 20.00.05 # yeah, the cheek - expecting us to do WORK instead of hacking around with open source 20.00.19 # totally stupid people 20.00.53 # hey Badger! 20.01.01 # I gots a nice patch coming soon. 20.01.11 # I'm ready ;-) 20.01.35 # in a few minutes. how do you commit? "cvs commit file" ? 20.01.41 # I forget. 20.01.42 # yes 20.01.55 # how do you type in a message to go with the commit? 20.02.14 # it pops up an editor, you write message, save, quit, it sends it off 20.02.27 # okay. will do. 20.02.28 # or use -m "message to my commit" 20.03.32 # i love Rockbox - every time I check my email, my Jukebox has a new feature :) Achos themselves always provide a disapointment when I check their site 20.13.06 # Badger: committed! 20.13.08 # :-) 20.14.25 # neato, I'll be sure to try it out 20.14.34 # Badger: what do you think? 20.16.51 # oops forgot to fix it for players too! 20.16.55 # I will recommit 20.24.41 # I am now adding the scroll bar on the side like the archos firmware :-) <-- this is FUN! 20.25.00 Nick Naked_ is now known as Hadaka (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 20.25.14 # elinenbe: uuuh, make sure it's configurable. I hate that scrollbar... 20.25.24 # f3 20.25.31 # good 20.25.36 # okay, I will. I will just add it to the menu... 20.25.43 # do you like the sped up browsing? 20.25.55 # haven't looked at it yet 20.26.14 # well, I am off to go swimming. 20.26.15 # later. 20.26.24 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|swim (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 20.36.07 # is the ui simulator broken in the CVS? or have I picked up an incomplete copy? 20.36.27 # x11 version? 20.36.33 # yeah 20.36.41 # builds fine for me 20.36.59 # Zagor: showlog.cgi is broken 20.37.04 # ../../apps/tree.c: In function `dirbrowse': 20.37.04 # ../../apps/tree.c:571: parse error before `lastfilter' 20.37.09 # there's a red build 20.37.23 # ripnetuk: you building as a player sim? 20.37.26 # Bagder i resent the image 20.37.32 # adi|home: I got it 20.37.56 # building recorder sim 20.38.20 # k 20.38.30 # Bagder: fixed 20.38.52 # ah 20.40.08 # ripnetuk: try this 20.40.09 # i'm not sure I like the accellerated scroll too much. it feels very uncontrolled. 20.40.25 # i think I'd prefer pgup/pgdn buttons 20.41.05 # might be hard on the player 20.41.22 # bag - try what??? 20.41.33 # ripnetuk: cvs update, try again ;-) 20.41.35 # does ON and +/- do anything in tree mode? 20.41.40 # ok, thanks, will try now 20.42.37 # i have a script to pull the latest source off the CVS and build it, but it always prompts me for a password (to which i just press enter) for anon. access - does neone know a switch to specify the blank password as part of the CVS command? 20.43.14 # ripnetuk: check the cvs page, it describes how to get rid of the prompt 20.43.16 # bagder - its ok now, thanks 20.43.24 # goodie 20.43.24 # zag - thanks,will do 20.44.49 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@rygar.gpcc.itd.umich.edu) 20.49.07 Quit elinenbe (Client Quit) 20.52.48 Part Bagder 20.57.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.57.38 Join edx [0] (~edx@217.234.165.210) 20.57.50 # good evening. 20.58.23 # good evening 21.06.36 # Hey... i have Koss SportaPro's and I like them a lot. But I need some good earphones for in-helmet use too 21.07.02 # the ones that came with my old Sony CD player suck in sound quality and hurt my ears (even without the motorcycle helmet) 21.08.08 # Hes: I recommend, as always, Sony EX70 21.15.29 # I tried the Sonies, but I prefer Koss "The Plug" w/ modified ear cushoins 21.18.11 # I want small ones, which don't come out from the ear a lot, otherwise putting on the helmet will Hurt 21.18.54 # freshmaker: really? I thought the plugs were a joke compared to the sonys. guess we have different ears :) 21.19.03 # "The Plug" is very small and shouldn't hurt even if you put some pressure on 21.20.29 # Zagor: If the Plug isn't inserted properly, they sound very bad indeed. 21.22.43 # Someone with too much time on their hands? _) 21.22.44 # :-) 21.24.08 # Seems the t-shirt-contest-page is broken still 21.25.37 # Hes: Hmm, I think it's broken again. I had it on my browser an hour ago or so. 21.26.45 # Hes: oops. fixed now. 21.39.22 Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t2o75p74.telia.com) 21.40.10 # anybody here?! 21.42.39 Quit mistaRx (Client Quit) 21.50.25 # sure. 22.13.02 # Got the average power measurement running now 22.13.19 # hm, statusbar patch won't apply again 8-) 22.14.04 # Sorry, I had to modify a lot of code in tree.c and it is hard to keep the patch in sync# 22.14.32 # Yes, it's hard 22.14.40 # Hopefully it will go to cvs soon 22.15.02 # yeah, it seems pretty good already 22.16.35 # I added two mor icons . One shows the play mode (repeat, shuffle..) the other shows a lock, when keys are locked 22.17.07 # I have uploaded my latest patch (http://www.sty-softwaretechnik.de/~mb 22.18.53 # Is it against the current cvs? 22.19.19 # that address doesnt seem to work - cant find server 22.19.36 # Hes: yes 22.20.17 # And sorry, typo: http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb 22.20.49 # Excellent 22.26.19 # 90k recorder binary... 22.26.50 # Optimizing for smaller size is not too far away 8-) 22.29.04 # I'm shocked, status bar adds 3500 bytes 22.30.09 # look in archos.map to see what uses ram 22.30.44 # Argh! Forgot my charger at the office again 22.30.49 # I need another 22.31.11 # 90k? time for a poll whether to drop tetris or sokoban ;-) 22.31.15 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.31 # surely 90k is not a problem? the original firmware is > that innit? 22.37.53 # ripnetuk: 90k is not a problem at all 22.37.56 # from this users point of view, I'd say drop them both, thats what my palmpilot is for :) 22.37.58 # grep .text archos.map | sort +2 22.38.03 # 200k will be a problem I think... 22.38.13 # and 200k will be easy to reach 8-) 22.41.35 # hae to go. good night everyone! 22.43.12 # Night 22.45.16 # the original firmware is ~200k -- 90k is nothing. 22.45.22 Nick elinenbe|swim is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 22.46.29 # still, each wasted k is one k less used for buffering 22.46.50 # Ueah 22.46.54 # Who wants the games? 22.46.58 # I do! 22.47.01 # They should be kept as separate loadable modules 22.47.15 # I agree with that. I think it would be pointless to start removing stuff... 22.47.27 # at least until the firmware is about 200k 22.47.42 # many people like the ability to play the games while listening to music 22.48.05 # I love playing tetris, and I programmed the sokoban (which is too much fun!) 22.48.15 # the only thing I use my recorder for is as a jukebox while I am doing other things or sleeping 22.48.20 # I never even look at it 22.48.28 # I like the games too 22.48.50 # Probably no need to select things before we're near the 200k limits 22.48.55 # true 22.49.01 # Games = loadable modules 22.49.09 # at which point loadable stuff comes handy 22.49.44 # did anyone check out the fast scrolling patch? 22.49.53 # I am making it configurable too. 22.49.58 # yeah, I did. and I don't like it much 22.50.15 # it's way too unpredictable. you don't feel in control any longer 22.50.48 # I definitely think we should try making pgup/pgdn keys instead 22.51.22 # after 8 downs or ups, it becomes page up/down. 22.52.06 # yeah, but with 5 repeat/s, that quickly becomes one helluva lot of pgdn keys... 22.52.23 # Zagor: Do you want some work? :-) 22.52.39 # hehe. what? 22.52.53 # well, it can be slowed down. 22.53.06 # Zagor: adding my cute USB icon to the "USB connected" screen 22.53.16 # dwihno: yeah, later :) 22.53.25 # No, I want it now now now! :) 22.53.57 # It's always later 22.54.05 # elinenbe: the point isn't really that it's quick. the problem (imho) is that you don't get to choose when to use page down or line down. it just suddently goes into pgdn mode. 22.55.17 # it's too much "the machine decides" for my taste 22.55.27 # can you think of anything better? 22.56.07 # yes, dedicated pgup/pgdn keys. like ON-up and ON-down (ON-+/- on player) 22.57.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.58.42 # Zagor: how about pressing the up/down keys moves one line at a time, and holding is pgup/pgdown 22.59.12 # how would you do three quick pgdn? 23.00.14 # just hold it for a second... 23.00.28 # we could slow down the repeat here. 23.00.34 # too imprecise 23.01.41 # it gets annoying fast to always miss your target because you didn't predict the repeat speed accurately 23.02.16 # not if it goes one screen per half second. 23.02.53 # then it's annoyingly slow instead. I want one screen per my click, no machine-decided speed 23.05.22 # have you used the ipod at all? 23.05.28 # nop 23.06.27 # well, then I will make it an option. I like it very much. but it is not for everyone. 23.12.14 # what's the advantage over dedicated keys? i see none. 23.22.38 # one handed operation. I use it on my bicycle all the time, and it is nearly impossible to use both hands. 23.26.23 # i also am not too fond of how it basically duplicates the code in the _NEXT and _PREV cases. 23.26.33 # one-handed operation is a good point, though 23.28.13 # i am not fond of that either. 23.29.15 # brb 23.29.18 Quit elinenbe ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby")