--- Log for 07.08.102 Server: lerouge.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 18 days and 9 hours ago 00.11.30 # hmm 00.11.31 Quit ripnetuk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.22 # I just added an url icon for the web site, check it out. 00.12.39 # it's not much, but 16x16 is hard to work with... 00.13.09 # the topic should be updated. 00.14.51 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 00.15.02 Topic "http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/" by Zagor (~bjst@dhcp111.contactor.se) 00.15.07 # tada 00.15.14 Mode "#rockbox -o Zagor " by Zagor (~bjst@dhcp111.contactor.se) 00.16.29 # :D 00.16.34 # you are SO cool :) 00.16.38 # Zagor Coolor 00.16.44 # Where is the icon thingy? 00.16.49 # I don't get any such thing 00.16.55 # are you using msie? 00.17.54 # yap 00.18.02 # msie = good 00.18.04 # do you get an icon from www.mozilla.org? 00.20.07 # lemme check 00.21.27 # nay 00.22.22 # ok, then msie don't support png icons. *sigh* 00.23.02 # msie - "retarded technology ever since 1997" ;) 00.27.54 # nice favicon. It sould be considered as art to put "What's RockBox about" into 16x16. 00.29.05 # ...ah, and mozilla rocks 00.29.52 # :-) 00.29.55 # there's another icon test at http://bjorn.haxx.se/test2/ 00.30.22 # the whole logo, squeezed into 16x16 :-) 00.31.04 # no, the key is much better. 00.31.27 Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t4o975p57.telia.com) 00.31.41 # yes, I think so too. I just had to see what the squeezed logo looked like :-) 00.31.54 # I think it looks great! :) 00.32.01 # Great work, Zagor! :) 00.32.21 # dwihno: which of them? 00.32.54 # what looks great?! 00.33.24 # I added a favicon to the web page. reload it in mozilla and you'll get a small icon in the address field 00.33.26 # maybe the key/clef will become a real meme... 00.33.34 # umm.. zagor, i dont see any icon at the link you gave 00.33.52 # adi|home: yeah, it only works in mozilla right now. fixing an .ico file now. 00.34.10 # got ya... 00.34.29 # im hoping in shower 00.34.31 # brb 00.34.47 # Zagor: both :) 00.37.06 # dwihno: are you getting an icon now? 00.38.37 # nay 00.40.01 # i get file not found zagor 00.40.09 # hum... 00.40.28 # still now? 00.40.44 # test2 still not found 00.40.54 # nono, look at rockbox.haxx.se 00.40.56 # still nothing 00.41.38 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/test2/ 00.41.39 # ? 00.41.48 # http://rockbox.haxx.se 00.41.51 # k 00.42.13 # what am i looking for now? 00.42.38 # an icon in the address field. or maybe msie doesn't even show it until you bookmark the page... 00.42.49 # im on netscape 00.42.59 # so im not gonna get it then 00.43.06 # oh, then you won't get it whatever you do :-) only newer browsers do this. 00.43.13 # dwihno: still not getting it? 00.44.39 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.44.39 # * adi|home heads to his ambulance core 00.44.41 # see you all later 00.44.48 # bye 00.45.59 Quit jedix` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.49.33 # Zagor: nothing 00.49.52 # can you point me to a site where it works? 00.50.32 # www.favicon.com ? 00.52.46 # http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/archivejoymain00.html 00.52.48 # that one works 00.57.14 # umm, that one has no icon info in the page. sure you haven't bookmarked the site? 00.57.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.57.32 # hmm 00.57.34 # I did that 00.57.50 # that's why then. try bookmarking the rockbox page. 00.58.25 # it worked ;) 00.58.39 # nice 01.29.20 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 01.44.33 Quit mistaRx () 01.54.18 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 01.57.17 Quit MeRWiN (Client Quit) 02.00.53 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 02.05.49 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.1/20020805]") 02.10.48 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 02.11.58 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.28.09 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 02.39.14 Quit dwihno (Remote closed the connection) 02.39.35 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 02.57.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.41 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@dialup-209.245.1.50.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) 02.59.51 Quit mecraw (Client Quit) 03.02.21 Join USAG33k [0] (~usageek@24.247.13.250.gha.mi.chartermi.net) 04.25.46 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 04.25.46 Quit ripnetuk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.57.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.29.24 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 05.29.24 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.03.36 Join f0rtyHex [0] (~f0rtyHex2@sum-011.aus.tx.bbnow.net) 06.09.39 Part f0rtyHex 06.54.11 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 06.57.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.17.44 Join Linus [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.17.45 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.20.27 # Good morning! :D 07.20.43 # For the first time in 1 week, I'm up with the tupp! 07.20.44 # yo! 07.20.50 # :-) 07.21.02 # (but I feel like shit ^_^) 07.21.46 # After reading your mail about the "shuffle, start file at cursor" issue, I have to agree. 07.23.30 # we are sure running out of keys on the player... 07.24.02 # well, boo hoo :-) 07.24.23 # Making it a configuration setting then+ 07.24.24 # ? 07.24.54 # that's a possibility 07.25.07 # or always play the marked file on the player' 07.25.42 # There's another possibility too... 07.26.14 # If you "play the directory" there is no marked file to consider. 07.26.48 # but then it will be hard to play the root 07.28.05 # hmm 07.28.59 # what about this... 07.29.35 # just tapping the play buttin with a marked file starts the file @ the cursor, and if keeping the play button pressed for 2secs, it starts with a random file 07.30.04 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 07.30.53 # dwihno: then it would be easier to just hit NEXT again 07.31.54 # true 07.32.02 # Well, just make it so. 07.32.09 # hey linus... planning on implementing the time elapsed/remaining patch that I gave you? Just curious... :-) 07.32.17 # People CAN press 'next' 07.32.18 # dwihno: number one, make it so 07.33.11 # Linus: Let's just try to keep it simple - if somebody wants a fully random song, they can press 'play', 'next' 07.33.23 # dwihno: i agree on that one 07.33.25 # dwihno: at least for now 07.35.42 # Linus: how soon do you think there could be some recursive playlist generation? 07.35.54 # as soon as we have write-to-disk 07.36.24 # recursive playlists can be quite large 07.37.43 # Linus: ok. There is a quick fix also that should be put in (should take just a second to do). Change the "Time: XX:XX:XX - XX:XX:XX" to just "XX:XX:XX/XX:XX:XX" on the player. The whole thing doesn't fit on the player 07.37.54 # err.. to XX:XX/XX:XX on the player 07.38.06 # isn't that fixed? 07.38.07 # Linus: true, true 07.38.08 # oh 07.38.54 # Linus: being a curious person, what are you working on right now? :-) 07.39.28 # the dir playing 07.40.13 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.40.23 # morning 07.40.33 # MeRWiN: done 07.40.37 # morning badger 07.40.39 # morn 07.40.39 # bagder 07.40.54 # Linus: thanks :) 07.40.59 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@c213-89-105-64.cm-upc.chello.se) 07.41.12 # mastodontfilms-mats! 07.41.26 # Hi Linus! 07.41.53 # Linus: Just saw that the global playlist was removed. Why? 07.42.39 # ? 07.43.03 # Linus: The extern playlist was commented out in playlist.h 07.43.11 # is it? 07.43.28 # oh yes 07.43.30 # Linus: Check your version! 07.43.49 # i didn't think it was that interesting to export it 07.43.50 # * Bagder drowns in email 07.43.59 # but i'll put it back again 07.44.37 # I was just preparing a wps patch where index and amount is used. 07.44.37 # why do you want it exported? 07.44.44 # ah, nice 07.44.52 # then export it 07.45.21 # I think that current position in playlist and the total amount of songs in the playlist is interesting. 07.45.26 # indeed 07.45.31 # agreed 07.45.44 # * Bagder thinks so too 07.45.56 # OK. I can export it in the patch. 07.46.01 # * Bagder brought his charger to work today, time to charge ;-) 07.46.16 # how important is it that the playback always starts with the marked file in random dir-play mode? 07.46.32 # me thinks not very important 07.47.17 # the sad thing is that it makes it impossible to play the file you want when random=true 07.47.18 # I'll send patch later. Must go to home now to Perty to prepare some OO-things for next meeting! CU! 07.47.27 # cu 07.47.36 Quit matsl ("Liece") 07.47.39 # Linus: true, that makes it annoying 07.47.42 # I think it's very important :-) 07.47.50 # like if you wanna play that single file only 07.47.58 # Linus: I forsee a problem if you have it totally random... if you're playing a random file and you press OK to go to the file list to play a specific file it won't play it :) 07.48.29 # one approach is to always put the marked file first in the list 07.48.34 # why would you have it on random if you wanna play specific files 07.48.51 # PsycoXul: well, I always leave mine on random, but sometimes I want to hear a specific song 07.48.52 # PsycoXul: because i want then *next* file to be random 07.49.02 # heh 07.52.45 # when we play a file in a directory, it will play the next one automatically 07.52.54 # that is probably expected 07.53.00 # shuffle: off, selectable, full 07.53.01 # or something 07.53.07 # but what should happen when it reaches the end of the list? 07.53.24 # always wrap? 07.53.31 # or depend on the "repeat" setting? 07.53.44 # i would think that anything repeating would do so by a repeat setting 07.54.37 # ok, so if repeat=off and random=on and you play a file in a directory? 07.54.55 # shuffle the remaining files and play them? 07.55.02 # or play all? 07.55.10 # heh 07.56.10 # sounds like a problem for the building of playlists 07.56.28 # not at all 07.56.45 # i just want to do what feels right 07.56.56 # morning 07.57.01 # morn 07.57.10 # morning hes 07.57.28 # well we're talking an auto-built playlist, essentialy, thats being shuffled right? 07.57.34 # yes 07.58.13 # Linus: Uwe Freese had an idea on the list for it, on the recorder 07.58.20 # use the RIGHT and PLAY differently 07.58.29 # yes, i answered to that mail 07.58.36 # it seems to me which tracks get put into the shuffled playlist depends on how you build that playlist.. so it boils down to the keys for actualy making playlists... how to add 1 file, all the files in the dir after selection, all files in dir, or whatever... 07.58.45 # haven't gotten there yet :-) 07.59.17 # PsycoXul: probably, but we don't have that many keys 07.59.47 # and then the shuffle optionaly keeping the first track intact or shuffling them all 07.59.54 # still, i guess the expected behaviour when random=off and repeat=off is to play until the end of the dir 08.00.16 # then what is the expected behaviour when random=on? 08.01.11 # Linus: well we've got 4 buttons that each can be combined with one or both of 2 other buttons, and can also be held, and even variations therof.. it's more a question of importance for the functions available to assign to convenient keys/combo's/etc 08.01.47 # actually, not all keys can be combined on the recorder... 08.01.54 # but that's not the point 08.02.19 # well i was just talking about the player as far as buttons 08.02.19 # heh 08.02.43 # it still comes down to what the expected (default) behaviour should be 08.03.15 # when repeat=off and random=on 08.06.16 # well i suppose what songs go on the playlist should be consistent whether it's random or not, so if playing track 4 of 10 adds 4-10 and plays them normally, i'd expect shuffle to do the same but shuffling... but then if you do want the whole dir shuffled and just want to start at 4 i dunno heh 08.06.46 # my thought exactly 08.07.15 # thats why i think there needs to be a distiction in how the playlist is built.. eg if you hold play on 4 it'll shuffle the whole dir, if you just press play on it it'll shuffle 4-10 08.07.35 # or vice versa depending on how other behaviour is, or something along those lines 08.07.35 # I vote for placing the file at cursor first in the playlist even with random=on 08.07.54 # Hes: me too 08.07.57 # me too 08.08.15 # and picking a random first file if a directory is under the cursor 08.08.26 # but the question remains: what to do with files 1-3 in the case above? 08.08.49 # Hes: there still is no PLAY key on the player 08.09.01 # give them to starving children? 08.09.20 # Linus: on the recorder at least... the player could do a recursive play of a directory if 'right' is pressed for a couple seconds instead of just clicking to enter the directory 08.09.51 # Hes: i was thinking about MENU+PLAY for "dir play" 08.10.04 # i dunno 08.10.14 # Linus: that's probably as good or better 08.10.26 # menu+key's so far modify in-play paramaters sorta as it is 08.10.34 # volume and hold mode, right? 08.10.37 # PsycoXul: true 08.10.51 # i would think either holding play or start in on the on+keys heh 08.11.12 # i like on+key better 08.11.28 # the stock firmware on players uses holding play to add a whole dir to a playlist, though it's buggy and adds the rest of the drive with it :p 08.11.48 # having things happen when the key is released makes the UI sluggush 08.11.54 # sluggish 08.11.57 # but then it also uses holding play to add a single file if thats what its over 08.11.59 # and there's that too 08.12.04 # so yeah 08.12.25 # i did that with the MENU key, but i hope it can stay with that 08.13.06 # Linus: there's also that mute patch that I made :) That's taking Menu+Play in the WPS (not implemented yet in CVS) 08.13.09 # well, we would of course have to do it with the ON key as well... 08.13.19 # MeRWiN: true 08.13.24 # oh that reminds me too 08.14.04 # i think it'd be cool if something like On+left/right [on player anyways] would select multiple files 08.14.20 # so if you wanted tracks 2-5 of 10, you put it on 2, hold on and over to 5 08.14.25 # PsycoXul: a kind of manual playlist building? 08.14.56 # PsycoXul: I think if you do that you'd also have to have something to select a bunch of individual files in a dir, like 2,5,9,13 08.15.08 # heh 08.15.17 # MeRWiN: thats true 08.15.23 # and i dunno what you'd do for that 08.15.34 # it just came to mind, if repeat=on, random=off and you play file 3 of 4 it will play until file 4, right? 08.15.53 # heh 08.16.05 # and if repeat=on it will wrap, right? 08.16.10 # but what next? 08.16.16 # repat still means repeat 08.16.41 # should it start over with the first selected file 08.16.43 # oh yeah 08.16.46 # or stop? 08.16.49 # there's also key sequences 08.16.55 # those are fast and add a lot of combo's 08.17.02 # PsycoXul: yeah 08.17.13 # and can have ui feedback to help 08.17.42 # i think a dir play should always play the entire dir, starting with the selected file 08.18.03 # wrap at the end of dir, but only repeat if repeat=on 08.18.18 # how about that? 08.18.37 # yeah 08.18.59 # Linus: yeah 08.19.21 # then so be it 08.19.23 # Linus: Queue up the first file in the dir but only actually play it if repeat=on 08.19.36 Quit Hes (Remote closed the connection) 08.20.03 # the playlist is always built from the entire dir 08.20.25 # it just starts playing at the correct place in the list 08.20.43 # wne it comes back to the same position, it checks the repeat flag 08.24.30 # Linus: with normal CD players, if you have repeat off and you start playing in the middle of a CD, it will stop at the end of the CD 08.24.39 # I think we should go for that approach 08.26.00 # unless playlist wrapping is configured 08.26.50 # correct 08.27.21 # and a CD player would shuffle the remaining files, right? 08.27.47 # Linus: if shuffle=on then even if you start playing in the middle, it would shuffle the entire cd 08.30.51 # blah 08.31.10 # how do *we* want it? 08.31.20 # I would have it like that 08.31.43 # I'm the kind of person who leaves shuffle on everywhere I go :) 08.32.11 # i smell config settings... 08.32.16 # "we" want a firmware that consists mostly of config optios! 08.32.27 # hehe 08.32.38 # true, we want as many config options as possible without being too confusing 08.32.55 # If two people could want it different, we need a config option :) 08.32.55 # heh 08.33.12 # maybe PsycoXul's idea is the best so far 08.33.14 # Linus: what was the recent CVS update regarding? 08.33.16 # what you should be worrying about is how to organize the configuration without overwhelming the users! 08.33.23 # heh 08.33.47 # MeRWiN: internal changes only 08.33.54 # ahh 08.33.54 # ok 08.34.11 # random: off, selectable, full 08.34.18 # quite ok to me 08.34.38 # Linus: what do you mean by selectable and full? 08.34.48 # i understand full, randomizes every file 08.34.54 # but selectable 08.34.54 # selectable plays the selected file and then shuffles the rest 08.35.05 # yeah i wouldn't use those titles, though i don't have any better suggestions :p 08.35.13 # maybe "selectable" isn't the best word 08.35.28 # "selected first" 08.35.41 # ahh... Random: Off, Selected File First, Full 08.36.05 # "Selected File First" is a quite long string for a Player... 08.36.19 # So is Selected First 08.36.21 # 11 characters 08.36.24 # max 08.36.30 # yeah 08.36.51 # "Sel. first" 08.36.51 # SelFile 1st 08.36.56 # heh 08.37.05 # or fix it to scroll 08.37.12 # "Select 1st"? 08.37.17 # the title also scrolls sometimes 08.37.18 # *shrug* 08.37.28 # we'd have to implement dual scrolling\ 08.37.39 # we need multiline scrolling 08.37.40 # in different directions! :-) 08.37.44 # haha 08.37.44 # hehehe 08.37.52 # yeah 08.37.53 # that would be great 08.37.55 # different scroll modes'd be nice too 08.38.07 # backwards might be a bit confusing 08.38.09 # true 08.38.09 # 'bounce' 'loop' 'jump to start' etc 08.38.12 # :p 08.38.17 # 'sinus' :-) 08.38.27 # Bagder: you read my mind :) 08.38.30 # heh 08.38.37 # bounce, loop, random :-) 08.38.47 # hah! 08.38.47 # and shuffle 08.38.51 # random scrolling i like 08.39.37 # actually, doing the bounce with a sinus for speed might be good 08.40.17 # but I won't try that out today ;-) 08.40.34 # oh btw i think the looping scroll should stay twice as long at the beginning of the string 08.40.41 # * Bagder received >200 emails since he logged off yday 08.40.54 # so it sorta pauses there before re-scrolling 08.41.24 # i noticed while browsing when you go to a >11-char entry the first char you see is the 2nd because the 1st ones immediately scrolled past 08.42.01 # PsycoXul: but it's being displayed without scroll until you select it... so the first char is there 08.42.08 # and imo it makes a scrolling title a little more readable and distinguishes the beginning better 08.42.14 # MeRWiN: not on the player 08.42.19 # PsycoXul: you sure? 08.42.22 # you're browsing down and the cursor's already at the bottom of the screen 08.42.31 # you press down one and the next dir down becomes the bottom of the screen 08.42.41 # and you never saw it's first char if it scrolls 08.43.07 # PsycoXul: i'm using the latest cvs on the player and it waits about .25 seconds after you highlight it before scrolling at all 08.43.16 # PsycoXul: it doesn't start with the 2nd char on mine 08.43.18 # yeah? 08.43.28 # i haven't updated in some days, i dunno maybe its changed 08.43.56 # PsycoXul: Seems to work the way you want it to on mine... which is a good thing 08.44.35 # yeah, huh 08.44.44 # it'll be a better thing if it works the way i want it to on mine :p 08.44.51 # heh... 08.45.27 # PsycoXul: sending you the latest :) 08.45.44 # oh i'll build my own tonight probably 08.45.47 # i've just been lazy 08.45.59 # i think there was a patch to the list some days ago i wanna try too 08.46.04 # yeah 08.46.32 # I've gotta figure out something to do with www.rockthebox.com ... I registered it and now i'm wondering what to do. 08.46.39 # heh 08.46.39 # A rockbox fanpage :) 08.47.03 # a collection of weirdo patches! ;-) 08.47.22 # I could have a bleeding edge version that is compiled every 30 minutes 08.47.22 # heh 08.47.28 # hehe 08.48.21 # or how about 5 minutes after every cvs commit? heh 08.48.32 # that would be nice too 08.48.34 # :) 08.48.41 # right, it could rebuild on every new commit mail ;-) 08.49.31 # Personally, I think that should be on the webpage also :) 08.49.42 # a current cvs build for those that don't want to wait for the daily 08.49.49 # that reminds me, the cvs log link of the compile status table is broken 08.50.15 # whoops 08.51.17 # I just bought a D-Link dsl/cable router for $25 USD (compared to my $100 for the netgear router), and the D-Link routes quicker (almost double the speed of transfers over the lan) and has more and better config options 08.51.22 # gotta love it 08.52.10 # * Bagder fixed link 08.52.30 # * Bagder spotted the favicon just now 08.52.38 # coolerss 08.53.31 # MeRWiN: only $25?! 08.55.36 # I added some screen dumps to the manual yday 08.55.42 # yay :D 08.55.44 # dwihno: yup 08.56.03 # dwihno: I got an open box item though... normal $35 ... got it at Best Buy 08.57.03 # MeRWiN: $35 is still a good price! what model? 08.57.25 # dwihno: DI-604 08.57.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.57.40 # dwihno: can be used with 4 computers 08.58.20 # cool :) 08.58.47 # Maybe I'll get one - having a computer up 24/7 is not really that smart. 08.59.08 # dwihno: I do it 08.59.26 # Bagder: how much does it cost (electricity-wise) to keep a box up 24/7? 08.59.32 # Why? :) 08.59.37 # I mean, you work 8 hours 08.59.40 # You sleep 8 hours 08.59.49 # electricity? I don't know 08.59.49 # so that's 16 hours worth of nothing 09.00.32 # You DO pay your bills, don't you? :) 09.01.12 # The bills actually don't increase all that much.. besides, I sleep about 6 hours usually and I use my home computer while I'm at work as a SOCKS5 server 09.01.23 # Woo, i registered rockbox.dhs.org too (that one's free) 09.02.00 # hmm 09.02.00 # heh 09.02.06 # we've got 3 box's up 24/7 09.02.10 # in one room 09.02.12 # thats always warm :p 09.02.21 # I've usually got my laptop and my desktop up all night 09.02.33 # anyways, time for bed for me... talk to you all later 09.02.38 # bye 09.02.49 # g'nite 09.02.55 Quit MeRWiN () 09.38.35 Nick mbr|gone is now known as mbr (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 09.38.42 # morning mbr 09.38.49 # morning 09.40.32 # mogguh 09.40.40 # mo' 09.51.36 # hm, is that really smart? 09.51.42 # using the w_tmo() in tetris 09.51.43 # what? 09.51.51 # it'll make things run faster if you press more keys 09.52.00 # what is w_tmo? 09.52.04 # with timeout 09.52.09 # button_get_w_tmo() 09.52.09 # nods 09.52.30 # maybe it wasn't such a good ide after all? :-) 09.52.49 # it should compensate 09.52.59 # yes 09.53.19 # a kind of next_tick calculation 09.53.20 # the previous sleep() solution isn't exactly ultimate either 09.53.28 # absolutely not 09.54.09 # Bagder: wanna fix it? 09.54.16 # no time right now 10.27.01 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.28.16 # What do you guys think about the status bar? is it overloaded? 10.29.26 # * Bagder hasn't had time to try it out yet 10.29.31 # i haven't tried the latest one 10.29.44 # just written a serial remote routine... but cant seem to get the interupts to fire off... 10.29.49 # any ideas? 10.29.53 # notch: need help? 10.30.54 # I would really like to get the status bar in cvs. It is no fun to merge cvs updates that often :) 10.31.00 # notch: have you set the interrupt level? 10.31.10 # mbr: me too 10.31.23 # mbr: I think adding what you have now sounds reasonable, as we can tweak it from here 10.31.31 # i agree 10.31.45 # Linus: had a look at the picture referenced in my latest mail? 10.32.03 # i'm afraid that my latest CVS checkin might give you some sync problems 10.32.24 # Ive set: IPRE (int level) and all of the serial regs: SCR1 SMR1 BRR1 10.32.43 # so, shall i check in? 10.32.57 # go go go :-) 10.32.58 # ugh!@# 10.33.01 Quit PsycoXul ("fucking reboot") 10.33.27 # OK, may take a while ... 10.33.42 # what do those arrow thingies mean? 10.33.54 # i understand the two first 10.34.12 # One other thing, the timeout button request breaks x11 simulator 10.34.21 # as always.... 10.34.30 # ugh 10.35.09 # Linus: The third shows Shuffle (S) and the fourth shows shuffle repeat 10.35.31 # mbr: what about using the mute icon *instead* of the volume bar when that mode is enabled? 10.36.02 # Bagder: excellent idea 10.36.33 # i would like the external charger connector to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise 10.36.55 # I think I'd prefer that too 10.37.02 # would make it look less like a heart 10.37.47 # OK, I change the two things, then check it in 10.37.57 # Ah 10.38.01 # A nice walk outdoors :) 10.38.10 # You should try it sometimes, it's really kickass 10.39.00 # * Bagder works on a sim fix for the w_tmo 10.39.46 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.40.21 # mbr: separate symbols for shuffle and repeat? 10.41.22 # w_tmo? 10.41.29 # with timeout 10.41.33 # ah 10.41.40 # cool abbreviation :) 10.41.52 # yeah, really cool! 10.42.02 # OSE style ;-) 10.42.17 # Bagder: you got me 10.42.24 # hehe 10.42.47 # * Linus is an OSE fan 10.42.47 # Linus: But the S for shuffle is ok? Or using better a dice or so? 10.43.03 # don't know 10.43.13 # any pictogram gurus out there? 10.44.18 # if you can manage to squeeze a dice in those few pixels, go ahead! :-) 10.44.25 # Linus: How should I decalre an interupt: #pragma interrupt Void RXI1 (void) ? 10.45.01 # (sorry to but in!) 10.45.09 # o o 10.45.09 # /_\ _ _ /_\ 10.45.09 # |_|_|_|_| |_|_| 10.45.09 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 10.45.09 # | | _ | | 10.45.09 # |_|___| |___|_| 10.45.17 # ^ pictogram 10.45.21 # = castle :-) 10.45.47 # yes, #pragma interrupt void RXI1(void) 10.46.16 # now, some win32 dude needs to fix the win32 sim version 10.47.14 # Linus: Are there any other regs that control inteupts apart from IPRE and an enable bit in one of the serial regs? 10.48.12 # yes, the interrupt level registers 10.48.26 # that is why i asked if you have set the interrupt level 10.48.55 # isnt that IPRE? 10.49.00 # sorry, i am confised 10.49.42 # notch: if you get a receive error, the receiver stops 10.50.26 # send me the source, and i can look at it 10.50.30 # Ive got a interupt for that (REI1) that clears the approp. flags.. 10.50.41 # What's your email? 10.50.45 # notch: good 10.50.48 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.50.49 # linus at haxx.se 10.50.54 # yo Zagor! 10.50.56 # ahhh, adsl at last! 10.50.58 # Zagor on adsl! 10.51.03 # already!!!!!???? 10.51.14 # yeah, i'm quite surprised 10.51.21 # GO ZAGOOOR! :D 10.52.43 # my gf is happy too. she's running around with her laptop and wireless ethernet card, downloading c64 games for vice :-) 10.53.09 # life is good! 10.53.22 # then commit things dammit ;-) 10.53.34 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 10.53.34 # * Bagder grins devilishly 10.53.41 # hehe 10.53.52 # I like the favicon 10.55.09 # yeah, it turned out pretty good I think 10.55.25 # Haha 10.55.32 # You crazy ppl! :) 10.55.38 # I want wireless ethernet card too! 10.55.41 # Are they expensive? 10.55.49 # no, less than 1000 sek 10.55.52 # :O 10.55.54 # Cardbus? 10.55.57 # yup 10.56.02 # cool :-) 10.56.07 # How about speed? 10.56.27 # I mean, I want to be able to watch the movies on our server when I'm taking a dump :) 10.56.30 # 11Mbit in my card. there exists up to 50 Mbit, I think 10.56.33 # Just kidding ;) 10.56.48 # 50 mbit? cool 10.56.53 # I want that :) 10.56.54 # 802.11a 10.56.57 # Sponsor me :-) 10.57.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.57.57 # Zagor: what manufacturer? 10.58.02 # netgear 10.58.06 # ewww 10.58.19 # Misa not like netgear 10.58.25 # Misa like etherexpress 10.58.32 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-1.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 10.58.35 # you mean intel? 10.58.41 # yup 10.58.45 # they own bigtime! 10.59.06 # except they don't make 802.11 cards, I think... :-) 11.00.13 # sorry, they do. well get that then. INTEL PRO/WIRELESS 2011B LAN PC-CARD 895.00 SEK (exkl) 11.00.28 # where? 11.00.29 # dustin? 11.01.34 # yup 11.02.10 Nick notch is now known as notch|bog (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.03.44 # "Supports 802.1x authentication protocol and utilizes 64- and 128-bit WEP encryption to help guard the network from intruders and protect data in transit. 11.03.44 # " 11.03.54 # So the data is encrypted while "in the air"? :-) 11.04.02 # make it "encrypted" 11.04.07 # :-) 11.04.10 # yeah, but wep isn't the best... 11.04.24 # it isn't 11.04.25 # ? 11.04.37 # WEP is crappy encryption 11.04.58 # Well, I've heard that the new standard encryption will utilize the 'scramble' ROR encryption as seen in rockbox ,) 11.05.06 # but still, that's what they all offer 11.05.17 # hmm 11.05.22 # is it reliable? 11.05.44 # is what reliable? 11.06.12 # the encryption 11.06.38 # and will I need extra hardware except the wireless card? 11.06.47 # the encryption works transparantly when it works 11.07.02 # well you need another end, of course, to connect you to the net 11.07.09 # yeah 11.07.15 # and those boxes cost a fortune? 11.10.00 # nah, not too bad. go google :) 11.11.44 # INTEL PRO/WIRELESS 5000 LAN CARDBUS ADAPTER 11.11.47 # yum yum 11.12.38 # hm, the win32 simulator's button code is silly 11.12.51 # me fix 11.14.52 # notch|bog: are you there 11.18.27 # there it is 11.18.33 # the mod/ajz patch 11.18.36 # Gah not again... 11.20.14 # * Bagder praises Randy Wood 11.20.57 Quit PsycoXul ("usb-storage lockups") 11.21.36 # ugh 11.21.39 # red 11.21.45 Nick notch|bog is now known as notch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.21.52 # Linus: Yep! 11.22.12 # in remote_seriel_init(): 11.22.24 # do like this: 11.22.29 # dummy = SSR; 11.22.31 # SSR = 0; 11.22.47 # set the SCR, then the baud rate 11.23.09 # sorry, clear SSR, then set the baudrate 11.23.15 # SCR 11.23.30 # ahh so you cant set bits in regs, you have to do a 'store'... 11.23.32 # then do a sleep(HZ/10) 11.23.49 # then enable the receiver in SCR 11.24.30 # and please don't set the interrupt prio to 15, use 8 or something instead 11.24.45 # The MOD-loading patch is a bit overworked 11.24.59 # how overworked? 11.25.00 # please don't commit it yet, guys 11.25.09 # the assembly code is unnecessary 11.25.10 # Thanks! 11.25.18 # notch: i haven't tried it yet 11.25.20 # aha 11.25.31 # Linus: reply to his mail 11.25.51 # or we can use his patch with some changes 11.26.15 # fair enough 11.26.29 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-1.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 11.26.30 # the load routing can just be placed in IRAM, then relocating isn't necessary. is that what you mean, linus? 11.26.51 # yes, but maybe not iram 11.27.18 # top of ram, then 11.27.26 # yeah 11.27.42 # i'll fix that 11.27.49 # ok 11.27.54 # ok, so his code loads the mod and then copies it it? 11.27.57 # do we want the .rbx enhancement? 11.28.13 # i don't think so 11.28.20 # Bagder: no, but he first relocates the load code to top of ram instead of putting it there from the beginning 11.28.29 # aha 11.28.31 # nah, i don't think there's much point to it either 11.29.11 # i don't care about loading speed when switching mods 11.29.13 # well, .rbx or whatever we decide to call it is very easily added if we come up with a good reason to use it one day 11.29.52 # yup. let's just use the bare necessities 11.30.20 # Linus: Like this: but unsure about the dummy! 11.30.21 # char dummy; 11.30.21 # dummy = SSR1; 11.30.21 DBUG Enqueued KICK notch 11.30.21 # SSR1=0; 11.30.21 # SCR=0; 11.30.21 *** Alert Mode level 1 11.30.21 # BRR1 = (FREQ/(32*9600))-1; 11.30.22 *** Alert Mode level 2 11.30.22 # sleep(FREQ/10); 11.30.24 # SCR1 = 0x50; 11.30.26 # SMR1 = 0x00; 11.30.29 # /* This enables the serial Rx interrupt*/ 11.30.31 # IPRE |= 0x0800; /* Set to medium priority */ 11.31.10 # yeah, but move the SMR to after the SSR write 11.32.32 # Isnt SMR already after the SSR? 11.33.14 # no, you had it after the SCR1 write 11.33.48 # okay got you now! 11.33.53 Quit PsycoXul ("sigh") 11.34.12 # i should have written "before the BRR write" or something 11.34.30 # I'm easily confused :-) 11.34.40 # the sleep before enabling RX is essential 11.35.08 # why? 11.37.08 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html 11.37.19 # adiamas' slightly rule-bending submission added 11.38.02 # notch: the UART wants at least X serial clocks initialization period 11.38.49 # ahh! notch needs to read some application notes! 11.39.11 # you can look at the serial init code in the GDB stub 11.39.24 # Bagder: like 3 the best 11.39.34 # that isn't by the book either, but it works 11.39.42 # Linus: I'll check that out... 11.40.23 *** Alert Mode OFF 11.41.06 # I'm hoping that people will get inspired by the existing designs and post their own attempts 11.41.23 # does the GDB use serial channel 1 as well?? 11.43.17 # ie. am I using the wrong channel! 11.43.17 # all builds are now green 11.43.34 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 11.43.34 # * Bagder pretends to be a win32 hacker ;-) 11.47.13 # notch: serial channel 1 is the way to go 11.47.15 Nick notch is now known as notch|lunch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.47.15 DBUG Enqueued KICK notch|lunch 11.48.55 # okay just checkin! 11.52.25 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 12.01.54 Join zebda3 [0] (~zebda3@ns1.guddland.lu) 12.01.58 # hi all 12.02.54 # I just see opn the ML taht the RoLo is now available !! great thing , but I do not know how to apply the patch, could soumeone help me or send me a compiled version with the RoLo builtin 12.03.15 # Ithink it is a must-have that must be commit to the cvs . 12.03.37 # it is gonna go in, it just needs some minor adjustments 12.03.59 # Bagder: did u test it? 12.04.05 # not yet 12.04.40 # But as sai the guy who code it, it would increase the RockBox user ! 12.05.21 # yes 12.06.21 # I've to go now bye, and vI think it is "a little step but a big step for RockBox" 12.06.23 # bye 12.06.26 Quit zebda3 (Client Quit) 12.08.28 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-6.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 12.31.03 # Bagder, Linus: I did the changes ... please see http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb/status.png 12.32.04 # looks ok 12.32.16 # The dice also ok? 12.32.58 # Then i'll commit! 12.35.34 # I'll commit the averaged battery level code today 12.35.37 # testing it now... 12.35.57 # made it compensate a little (roughly) for the voltage increase caused by the charger 12.37.20 # mbr: what's the bottom play status symbol? 12.37.29 # I want rewind/fast forward. I'm 20 minutes into last night's Surgery (Dr. Bob Jones) show and I want to upgrade the code... 12.37.40 # Zagor: paused recording 12.37.49 # ok 12.38.13 # Zargor: Don't know if we need it, but my vcr has it :) 12.38.21 # hehe 12.38.29 # What would it require? Jumping to a frame boundary? 12.39.20 # Hes: i don't think you need to hit the boundaries 12.39.42 # mbr: could the statusbar ena/disa go to byte 0xe of the config block instead of a new byet? 12.40.03 # (global_settings.statusbar & 1) << 4 12.40.41 # it only needs a bit anyway, for now 12.40.54 # Sure, changing it .. 12.41.08 # thanks 12.47.35 # wooo 12.47.53 # ROLO! 12.49.22 Join KrazyK [0] (~Blah@adsl-64-165-202-165.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 12.53.29 Part KrazyK 12.57.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.49 Part Bagder 12.57.57 Join stowaway [0] (~dangent@L3-phx-100-hq-e.cwie.net) 12.58.00 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 12.58.01 Quit ironi_ (Remote closed the connection) 12.58.04 # Allo 12.58.06 Join ironi_ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 12.58.13 # hi 12.58.18 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 12.58.18 # * Bagder updates to mbr's fixes 12.58.25 # * stowaway gives Rockboxers the thumbs-up 12.58.38 # * Linus thanks stowaway 12.59.26 # You can see my rockbox-running Archos in a picture of a very early rev. of my case mod: http://pyromaniac.net/misc/geekden2.jpg 12.59.27 # ;) 12.59.50 # I wrote the list some time ago with many suggestions ... This is my first time in the IRC room though. 13.00.10 # I can't code my way out of a wet paper bag, but is there any other way I can support the project? 13.00.32 # we like bug reports, feature requests, docs and candy ;-) 13.00.44 # And T-shirt designs 13.00.47 # Docs and candy 13.00.47 # Hehe 13.00.55 # oooh... T-shirt designs. I think I can help with that. 13.01.13 # Check the URL on the topic 13.01.21 # And I know a place that makes razor-cut stickers ... I could design one 13.01.33 # For distribution to Rockbox users to plaster on their jukeboxes 13.02.55 # WHOA... mail server toook a dump. BRB 13.03.41 # dammit my build status script bugs 13.03.52 # win32 sim build is red 13.03.54 # but no link 13.05.05 # ah, link errors don't show 13.05.42 # Link errors, because i added apps/recorder/widgets.[ch]? 13.06.25 # no, multiple definition of `lcd_framebuffer' 13.06.31 # but I don't really understand why 13.06.33 # yet 13.07.50 # oh, now I do 13.10.41 # I have got 'implicit decclaration of function 'lcd_slidebar' and a few others... 13.11.00 # It should be legal to shoot spammers in the head. 13.11.16 # murder the spammer! 13.11.49 # Hahah. Well, I did a route add their-ip-address 127.0.0.1 from the mail server. They're a customer of ours, but they dont' have spam rights 13.11.55 # notch: did you really have the latest cvs? lcd_slidebar has moved 13.12.21 # Back to rockbox: What are the odds of having a display-mode switch for us car-driving rockboxers? 13.13.03 # Mbr: just updated my firmware directory.... with cvs update -dP 13.13.05 # You know ... Have a "normal font" browse mode and a "don't crash into other drivers while reading songs" mode ;) 13.13.26 # notch|lunch: update the apps too 13.13.33 # ahhh! 13.13.48 # notch: and the uisimulator 13.13.58 # stowaway: you mean simply using a larger font on demand? 13.14.13 # so i need to run update and login in each directory or is there an easier way? 13.14.14 # Ayup. 13.14.35 # Turn off volume bars, bigger, fast-scrolling font at the touch of a button ;) 13.14.36 # stowaway: should be pretty simple, once we sort out the current font mess 13.14.53 # notch|lunch: the easiest way is if you checkout "." from the start, which of course give you *all* modules, but then you can update in the root dir 13.15.00 # I like the idea of using the "on" button for mode switches on the JBR. It doesn't do anything once the Jukebox is actually ON ;) 13.16.01 # well, it places the unit in "hold" mode :-) 13.16.17 # Oh ... well .. umm ... 13.16.24 # hehehe 13.16.25 # ;) 13.17.21 # Bagder: So I would use 'cvs -z3: -d:pserver/rockbox co . ' ? 13.17.29 # OK I am going to take off for now ... If you need anything tested on a JBR, just say "Dan, load this crap up!" at dan@pyromaniac.net 13.17.30 # Later ;) 13.17.37 Quit stowaway ("changing servers") 13.17.50 # notch|lunch: first use 'cvs -d [blabla] login' 13.17.55 # yep 13.17.59 # notch|lunch: then the above, yes 13.18.09 # but do that in a newly created dir 13.18.10 # cheers 13.18.30 # * Bagder fixed the compile status table now 13.18.44 # link errors now appear as "BEEP" ;-) 13.19.05 # hehe 13.20.02 # Zagor: how about making the 'gccwarn' text yellow and keep the 'gccerror' red? 13.20.12 # would match the table colors 13.20.25 # hm, perhaps yellow isn't that readable on blue 13.22.33 # we can try 13.22.44 # maybe making it darker, almost orange 13.23.09 # could work, yes 13.23.21 # mbr: it seems the status bad shows "playing" from boot. at least in simulator. 13.23.51 # Zagor: Only in simulator, don't know why .... 13.23.56 # ok 13.24.10 # could be that the mpeg stuff isn't simulated properly 13.24.19 # yup 13.30.23 Quit Zagor (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 13.30.23 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 13.30.36 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 13.30.36 NJoin Zagor [0] (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 13.31.50 Join edx [0] (edx@dhcp17.kph.uni-mainz.de) 13.32.05 # hi 13.32.21 # hey edx 13.32.34 # I'd appreciate if you verified if the win32 sim still works 13.32.50 # I might have just broken the win32 sim 13.33.07 # hehe 13.33.08 # merged the battery_level() changes but didn't fix the win32 sim yet 13.33.12 # mucho commits today 13.33.16 # fixed x11 though 13.33.25 # mucho commits yesterday as well 13.33.32 # yes 13.34.18 # i'm working on the rolo 13.34.45 # * Bagder pads Linus on his shoulder to show some moral support 13.35.41 # *crash* 13.36.34 # I guess my moral support didn't quite work ;-) 13.36.43 # * dwihno sends the medics to Linus 13.37.34 # Bagder: I'll check w32sim in a few mins... 13.41.39 # Zagor: how many bits are unused in the FAT attribute field? 13.41.52 # Bagder: made gccwarn a bit orange:y now. check it out 13.42.38 # they stand out from the black a little less good now, but they're separable from the errors... 13.42.48 # Linus: only two: 0x40 and 0x80 13.42.51 # let's try it for a while 13.43.30 # Zagor: hey, an idea, what about changing the background color of those classes instead? 13.43.39 # testing 13.45.59 # whoa. well they do stand out a lot more :-) 13.46.13 # they certainly do 13.46.30 # I think I like it 13.46.35 # me too 13.46.35 # yeah, me too 13.46.46 Nick Linus is now known as Linus|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.46.48 # unmissable 13.47.20 # indeed 13.47.37 Quit ironi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.47.44 # I guess Hes should try it :-] 13.47.44 # I think i fixed win32's battery_level stuff now 13.47.55 # could you run a new build now 8-) 13.48.30 # mbr: i think the status bar should be ON by default in the settings 13.48.45 # * Zagor votes to change "BEEP" to "FAIL" 13.48.54 # okey 13.49.12 # Hes: the win32 sim builds now 13.49.26 # Linus: is it not? in settings_reset i set it to true ... 13.49.34 # Linus|lunch: it is on by default (with an empty config memory block), but the bit in question is set to 0 if you've used rockbox with config saving before 13.49.46 # now that it was moved to the same byte with other stuff 13.49.58 # Zagor: it'll change on next run 13.50.11 # ok 13.59.43 # I mailed the author of lots of (GPL) classical games for linux about his thoughts on porting them to rockbox 13.59.54 # "My initial comment is: you're crazy! :-D" 14.00.01 # "I have absolutely no idea how to do this." 14.00.07 # :-P 14.00.26 # I guess I'll need to poke around myself then 14.00.30 # hehe 14.00.47 # http://lgames.sourceforge.net/ 14.01.04 Join liam_ [0] (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 14.01.31 # breakout would rock supreme 14.01.46 # yeah, that was the main game I thought about 14.01.57 Nick liam_ is now known as jedix` (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) 14.07.26 # Zagor: I'd like to propose a new page on the site 14.07.41 # with the two tables from the front page and the compile status table, all in one page 14.07.43 # fixing laundry, brb 14.08.14 # would be a better "one glance to see it all" 14.13.12 # mbr: about the charging display info, why not blink the charger symbol when charging? 14.13.31 # yes, that's a good idea 14.13.54 # I'll look into that... 14.13.56 # i think the charger sumbol needs to be bigger somehow 14.14.46 # now we need a clock setting function... 14.16.20 # Man those new icons ROCK! 14.18.59 # I can always use a screen dump of the WPS if someone is able to produce one 14.22.00 Nick Linus|lunch is now known as Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 14.22.27 # *freeze* 14.22.49 # not too good 14.22.57 # * Linus has his hands in the air 14.23.16 # I'll try the same song once again 14.24.15 # * Bagder crosses his fingers 14.24.22 # * Bagder crosses his toes too 14.24.43 # mbr: in power.h, bool charger_enabled tells if the charger is charging 14.24.54 # charger_inserted() tells if the charger is inserted 14.25.42 # blinking plug would be good for charging 14.26.10 # Hes: currently working on it 14.27.45 # damnit, it didn't freeze this time 14.27.59 # it's time for a feature freeze 14.28.10 # this was the second total freeze I've had with rockbox the last few days 14.28.24 # we've been going way too long since last release 14.28.31 # * Bagder agrees 14.28.56 # the distortion was the reason we didn't release 1.2 last week, but afaik no one works on that ;-) 14.29.15 # Yeah 8-) 14.29.29 # does anyone know a showstopper in the current code? 14.30.28 # * Bagder shakes his head 14.30.43 # i have tried to work on the distortion, but i can't reproduce it 14.30.58 # so let's release it anyway 14.31.04 # I'm formally declaring a feature freeze NOW. Nobody commits new features until 1.2 is released. 14.31.10 # i want to have a repeat setting 14.31.19 # hehehe 14.31.24 # No. Kill repeat until after 1.2 14.31.31 # it took about 0.2 seconds of freeze ;-) 14.31.40 # having playlists and dir play go on forever fells lame 14.31.47 # feels 14.32.06 # exactly. so kill the repeat, unconditionally. 1.2 gets no repeat feature. 14.32.07 # sure, but who cares if 1.2 has it or the cvs the day after? 14.32.25 # Bagder: lots of people do 14.32.35 # I doubt it very much 14.32.39 # otherwise we wouldn't have releases at all 14.32.49 # people care about releases, yes 14.32.55 # but not very much about the repeat 14.33.03 # really? 14.33.13 # really 14.33.19 # they rather have 1.2 as it is now 14.33.22 # than using 1.1 14.33.29 # ok, i can only speak for myself, but i assume you do to 14.33.33 # no 14.33.45 # I think the current is *SO* much better than 1.1 14.33.52 # that's not my point 14.33.53 # so I don't think repeat is an issue 14.34.02 # i agree on that 14.34.06 # of course everyone wants as good software as possible 14.34.52 # Zagor: http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/rockbox-1.2-notes.txt 14.35.03 # its yours now ;-) 14.35.04 # Bagder: good, thanks 14.35.29 # the hard drive is not set in deeper sleep anymore 14.35.39 # hehe, right 14.37.37 # did we get those sokoban bug fixes? 14.37.49 # the levels, you mean? 14.37.53 # the two maps that were impossible 14.38.02 # I think he fixed it 14.38.03 # the two impossible maps, yes 14.38.09 # ok 14.39.34 # i think we should either implement a clock setting function, or lose the time display in 1.2 14.39.55 # drop it 14.40.04 # * Zagor is ruthless 14.40.17 # * Bagder is scared 14.40.50 # * mbr too 14.41.35 # * Linus hides 14.41.37 # notch is trembling... 14.41.49 # RUN! RUN! 14.42.38 # Btw... didn't find EX70's yet, a high-end shop offered Koss plugs for around 50E 14.43.23 # which didn't sound bad but a little pressure applied to a direction or another made a huge difference - the angle changed easily 14.43.35 # I would make sure to try both. I found them *very* different. 14.43.56 # and they did fit under the helmet. Will try to find the EX70's for testing... 14.45.34 # has anyone complained yet about the 200 file limit? 14.45.38 # Did buy a set of 1800 mAh GP NiMH cells though. 14.45.46 # Linus: not that I've seen 14.45.46 # Linus: not that I've heard 14.45.55 # just curious 14.46.15 # do we still have high-bitrate problems on the recorder? 14.46.34 # the IRAM fixes should have killed those 14.46.57 # Linus: any idea what is happening: I6D:A/D conv at 0900BCC4 14.47.13 # (my serial remote code) 14.47.40 # looks like you have enabled the A/D IRQ 14.47.52 # oooohh! 14.49.33 # let me check that... 14.49.34 # you enable the wrong bits in IPRE 14.49.34 # ahh... 14.49.34 # it should be 0x8000, not 0x0800 14.49.34 # thanks! 14.50.38 # IPRE = (IPRE & 0x0fff) | 0x8000; 14.52.10 # Arrgh, seems you're not supposed to replace batteries every other day 14.52.22 # not very easy to do. 14.52.24 # Hes: why not? 14.52.52 # you mean they are not easily replaced? 14.54.12 # Linus: 'I68:Ser1Err at 09008732' 14.54.29 # is this interupt defined somewhere else? 14.54.31 # Zagor: right. 14.56.03 # notch|lunch: your function must be named REI1, not ERI1 14.57.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.01.53 # dwihno: are you there? 15.09.19 # Zagor: did you ever setup an announcement-only mailing list? 15.09.51 # I think some poeple would enjoy one 15.10.06 # ah, forgot that 15.14.39 # Zagor: what is it that takes the most time when starting a playlist? 15.14.54 # * Linus is thinking about IRAM optimizations 15.15.20 # loading 15.15.26 # indexing newlines 15.15.40 # and how long does it take? I have so small lists 15.15.55 # it takes about 1 sec/1000 files 15.16.08 # mbr: if(current_tick-last_tick>HZ) 15.16.09 # I regularly run my 3200 song list 15.16.30 # how will that work out when current_tick wraps? 15.16.33 # and it takes a few secs 15.16.46 # Bagder: it should have improved since yesterday 15.17.01 # (larger buffer) 15.17.09 # Hes: Hmmm 15.17.17 # possible, I haven't been paying that much attention on that 15.17.27 # Hes and mbr: use TIME_AFTER() 15.17.57 # actually, larger buffer makes it go slower. I did some testing early on and bigger buffer doesn't help 15.18.16 # Hes and mbr: watch how sleep() is implemented (kernel.c) 15.18.25 # Zagor: slower? 15.19.01 # yes, for some reason. you should benchmark it before modifying 15.19.37 # it's already modified 15.19.48 # then benchmark it now 15.19.59 # my playlists are too small 15.20.26 # find dir -printf "/%p\n" > list 15.20.26 # make a new one, with all files. then double it. 15.20.43 # on the root dir 15.24.16 Quit notch|lunch (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 15.24.16 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 15.24.16 Quit ripnetuk (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 15.24.16 Quit elinenbe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 15.24.16 Quit Linus (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 15.24.16 Quit fragglet (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 15.24.16 Quit PiotR (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 15.24.29 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 15.24.29 NJoin notch|lunch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 15.24.29 NJoin Linus [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 15.24.29 NJoin ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 15.24.29 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 15.24.29 NJoin PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 15.24.29 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc1-guil4-0-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 15.32.12 # how fast is usb on archos? 12 Mb/s or 1.5 Mb/s ? 15.32.34 # Mbit or Mbyte? 15.32.38 # bit 15.32.51 # 12 on player/studio/old_recorder 15.34.05 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.34.12 # I'm reading that some usb 1.0 devices operate at 1.5Mb/s. But not archos then I take it. 15.34.14 # 480 on rec20 :-) 15.34.26 # matp|work: no, they run 12 15.34.28 # archos is usb1.1 15.35.01 # if you have a usb2 port :( 15.35.15 # who doesn't? :-) 15.35.23 # you buy a card with it 15.35.36 # huh? 15.35.42 # PCI USB2 card 15.36.05 # I have crappy laptop (work property) 15.36.11 # ah 15.36.14 # oh 15.36.37 # * matp|work burns with embarasment at not having usb2 15.37.18 # i'm guessing pcmcia is expensive 15.39.47 # about $100 in Sweden 15.40.22 # including VAT 15.45.16 # about £50 over here. still a lot. 15.49.50 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD9588387.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.52.18 Join ironi [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 15.53.52 # check this out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/files/mail2archos.txt Will rockbox best archos? 15.54.22 # this is a nice one: low battery indicator (blinking LED or display, beep from the headphones) 15.57.50 # elinenbe: beep? On an mp3 player? Let's put Majel Barret's voice somewhere onto the HDD :-) 15.58.35 # uh, what's the syntax for perl free-format multiline strings? my head hurts... 15.58.45 # print << END or something. 15.59.01 # elinenbe: what does it say? i don't have a yahoo account 15.59.02 Part Bagder 16.00.06 # Zagor: print < Zagor: text text text 16.00.26 # Zagor: EOF 16.01.12 # Zagor: Is it for "Usage" help text? 16.01.17 # buh, had a space: << END 16.01.28 # no it's a script on the webpage 16.01.44 # Ha, Perl's somtimes picky 16.02.11 # time to go home 16.02.14 # bye for now 16.02.22 # bye 16.02.37 Part Linus 16.04.13 Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 16.04.13 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno|gone 16.04.28 # Hmm, can the DSP decode and mix two mp3s concurrently? 16.07.19 # no 16.08.37 # *suck* 16.08.52 # freshamker: if you get 2 jukeboxes, and then pipe them into individual inputs on a mixing board, then you can do anything you want to! 16.11.07 Quit ironi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.11.34 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 16.15.02 # 1.2 feature freeze -- what about the font issues? I still get '?' for 'ö'... 16.15.24 # it'll be like that in 1.2 too 16.15.40 # the font issue is a big one. it'll have to wait. 16.16.02 # you tried Alex's font patch Zagor? 16.16.21 # i've only read it. 16.16.44 # I'll try to have a go at his latest tomorrow or so 16.16.57 # I think it is in the right spirit 16.17.09 # What's the problem? the charsets in chartables.c seem to provide diaeresis et.al. 16.17.31 # Bagder: yes, but we need to make it leaner 16.17.34 # freshmaker: the propfont does, but that isn't enabled in the default build 16.17.58 # Zagor: I believe his latest is better and we can remove a few memcpy()s to imrpove it 16.18.08 # good 16.19.23 # Badger: never tried PROPFONT, does srolling work properly after enabling? 16.19.53 # freshmaker: 95% ok 16.19.55 # freshmaker: yes, it works rather good over all actually 16.23.12 # yeah! cross binutils and gcc compiled and installed; piece of cake, thanks to linus' docs 16.23.38 # way to go 16.26.27 Join d728r [0] (~him1010@66-108-139-81.nyc.rr.com) 16.26.34 Part d728r 16.26.42 # ahh, the Makefile generated by tools/configure says 'make' instead of '$(MAKE)' *grr* 16.26.48 # I say hello, you say goodbye. nananaaa 16.27.15 # freshmaker: fix and mail us a patch ;-) 16.28.00 # later. 16.28.10 Quit elinenbe ("I'm outta here") 16.28.38 # Zagor: the mail addresses on the mail page have no mailto: parts 16.28.48 # making them bad links 16.31.05 # oh 16.32.27 # fixed 16.32.49 # uh 16.32.57 # you changed order on things? 16.33.19 # yes. any problems? 16.33.40 # not really, it just looks a bit "messy" 16.33.55 # I have no good solution to suggest though 16.34.43 # already a couple of new subscribers I see 16.35.11 # yup 16.35.47 # Badger: patch is ready and posted onto the list 16.35.56 # nice 16.38.11 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.38.11 # * Bagder ran '../tools/configure update' 16.38.27 # oh I am good ;-) 16.39.40 # freshmaker: applied 16.41.34 # thanks 16.43.40 # you're welcome. let's see what i can do w/ that logarithmic volume thing i posted to the list 16.44.55 # I think the charger code stops charging too early 16.45.20 # mostly a gut feeling at this point 16.45.27 # hrm 16.45.51 # if you don't mind my asking, how do you track the charge status of the batteries 16.45.56 # Bagder: i think you're right. six hours is too short time for a full charge 16.46.09 # USAG33k: the voltage dips when they are full 16.46.14 # Zagor: it stops charging even before that 16.46.26 # Bagder: before six hours? ok 16.46.42 # a couple of hours ago I charged and went into the debug scren for the battery 16.46.48 # it said it didn't charge anymore 16.46.55 # I removed the charger plug 16.47.03 # ah 16.47.19 # and now the battery indicator is very low, which indicates that it didn't do a full load before 16.48.02 # but I didn't take any detailed notes, I'll do that next time 16.48.52 # Zagor: what do you say about a single status page with the CVS activity, bug reports and compile status on? 16.49.06 # I hate having to switch between those two pages 16.49.22 # and scroll down the daily build page 16.49.48 # we can leave those two as they are and only add a new page for freaks like me ;-) 16.50.46 # sure 16.50.53 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|food (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 16.51.41 # didya announce the announce-list on the yahoo group? 16.51.55 # I figure people there might like it 16.52.03 # no, i'll do that 16.53.14 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@dialup-64.156.38.99.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) 16.54.22 # The latest cvs firmware ROCKS guys! 16.54.31 # :-)) 16.54.37 # hehe, goodie 16.57.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.08.02 Join ironi__ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 17.09.52 # Bagder: did you look at the voltage graph... what was the peak voltage? 17.10.22 # 6h should be enough... also, the second view of the battery debugger shows the last action the charger did on the bottom line 17.10.31 # it was less than 6, but I didn't pay enough attention 17.10.41 # so you can see if the 6h limit hit, or what happened 17.11.09 # I doubt the 6h limit hits... and yes, it might stop charging a bit too early now, it needs to be tuned a little probably 17.11.15 # it said 'charging: no' 17.11.35 # once we have some experience to know what and how 8-) 17.11.39 # it says so now, with battery at 5.20 17.12.07 # what exactly does charging: no mean? 17.12.15 # It means it is not charging. 17.12.20 # that it reached the top? 17.12.38 # Nope, it just means that it is not charging at the very moment 8-) 17.12.49 # ok, so it can stop before it reaches the top 17.12.50 # The last line shows the last action 17.13.32 # No, it only stops charging when 1) charger is detached 2) 6h timeout hits 3) voltage decreases sharply when charging 4) voltage stops increasing for a long time 17.13.54 # so when I get it now, it isn't normal 17.14.13 # it switched back to yes now and the voltate climbs again 17.14.23 # It is normal? 17.14.41 # What did the last line say? 17.14.51 # started at 84% 17.15.24 # Ok... next time it stops, that line will tell you why it stopped 17.15.38 # ok now 17.15.41 # you can look at the voltage graph what happens... 1 sample per minute 17.15.44 # end negd -66 12min 17.16.02 # battery: 5.24 V 17.16.32 # Ok... so it charged for 12 minutes, and suddenly the voltage decreased while charging (negative delta value of -66) 17.16.40 # so it decided the battery must be full 17.16.52 # ok 17.17.07 # but it isn't 17.17.42 # could the voltage drop be because of disk activity or something? 17.17.44 # check the scale on the voltage graph, what's the highest value it reached? 17.17.58 # 5.34 17.18.00 # Yes, the voltage drops because of disk activity but we take an average over quite many samples 17.18.08 # ok 17.19.08 # Could you please try the archos charger now, and right after it decides the battery is full, go to rockbox (without charger attached) and check the battery voltage 17.20.10 # What did the battery level (in info) say after the charging stopped? 17.20.16 # sure, but I expect it to take a while before it thinks it is full 17.20.48 # I'd just like to know the top voltage reached with both rockbox and archos chargers on each set of batteries 17.20.58 # to get an idea how far we are 17.21.11 # I see 17.22.07 # gotta run now, I'll check out more details later 17.22.10 Part Bagder 17.47.24 Nick Zagor|food is now known as Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.56.54 # Could someone send me the latest CVS recorder build? 17.57.31 # * edx fixed the w32sim 17.58.15 # strange that it compiled with linux... 17.58.58 # doh! 17.59.01 # now makefile is used 17.59.06 # before it was makefile.vc6 17.59.14 Nick mbr is now known as mbr|gone (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 18.00.06 # hmm, the clock has to go from the status bar or we're going to get truckloads of bug reports. mine shows "315:7" after battery change. 18.00.54 # lol 18.01.47 # * edx gets himself a coke. 18.03.07 Join heltrskeltr349 [0] (heltrskelt@pm842-23.dialip.mich.net) 18.03.55 # Zagor: i work on a clock set menu 18.04.23 # i'm sorry, but it'll have to wait 18.05.07 # OK. But after release we will add the clock again? I like it! 18.05.16 # yup 18.07.18 # Is it known, that lcd_invertrect is the same as lcd_fillrect? 18.07.26 # Zagor: do you think it would be useful to add a link to the daily page like "Win32Sim Executables: http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs/"? This folder always contains the latest compilations of the win32 executables 18.08.41 # sure 18.08.45 # i'll add it 18.09.06 # ok :) 18.09.17 # but is that daily or cvs builds? 18.10.53 # because the cvs builds we have locally 18.11.25 # whats the difference between daily and cvs builds? 18.12.00 # the daily is only built once, 6AM GMT. the cvs builds are done all constantly 18.12.10 # ah ok.. 18.12.15 # then this is cvs build 18.12.18 # but i'll add links for the bleeding edge cvs builds 18.12.24 # heh ok ;) 18.13.12 # links to CVS builds would be a lifesaver 18.13.45 # i've been without build capability for 2 weeks and it kills me to wait for the nightly builds :) 18.19.19 Quit pyvasene ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 18.21.35 Quit edx ("later guys") 18.36.51 # cvs builds linked 18.46.14 # * mecraw sheds tears of joy 18.48.57 Quit mecraw () 18.54.52 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 18.55.10 # hey bager. check out http://rockbox.haxx.se/status.shtml 18.55.39 # neato 18.56.17 # exactly what I wanted 18.57.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.50 # i'm considering reverting elinenbe's accelerated scroll patch. I think many others will be as frustrated by it as me. 19.00.11 # I haven't tried it 19.00.25 # I updated just before that one got in 19.00.29 # ok 19.01.15 # btw, I got the curl job 19.01.36 # oh, I haven't heard about that 19.01.58 # oh, sorry, I guy mailed me and asked if I could do a curl hack for them, paid 19.02.17 # so now I'm gonna write a few commands lines to send and receive mail using the netscape webmail 19.02.29 # cool 19.02.50 # yeah 19.08.04 # what exactly does the autovolume do? 19.08.34 # it lowers the volume durin loud passages, trying to keep the max at a constant level 19.08.57 # ah...very handy 19.10.09 # it's a mixed blessing. it kills all volume effects in songs, but is quite handy if you mix soft and loud songs 19.12.02 # it'll be nice not to have to run for the volume when I'm in quiet places and it hits a loud song 19.14.47 Join gerrger [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 19.15.12 Join georgestyles [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 19.15.23 Nick georgestyles is now known as GeorgeStyles (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 19.15.28 Quit GeorgeStyles (Client Quit) 19.15.43 Quit gerrger (Client Quit) 19.15.43 Quit ripnetuk () 19.15.46 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 19.24.34 # Bagder: recorder-debug autobuild builds recorder-normal 19.25.54 # hm 19.27.57 # fixed now I think 19.28.42 # I have all those builds' makefiles setup manually 19.29.00 # yup, fixed 19.29.04 # in case you ever feel like poking around ;-) 19.36.12 Quit heltrskeltr349 () 19.40.11 # it seems browsers understand a "Refresh:" header 19.40.37 # what is that? 19.40.53 # in the same format as those meta tags 19.41.06 # like a Location: 19.41.33 # ah, yes. the downside to that is that you get the page in history, making it hard to navigate back 19.42.02 # and in this case, I get to parse it myself as curl doesn't grok it 19.42.11 # The web site contains 592 files in 63 directories, of which 374 are html files. 19.42.20 # ah 19.42.47 # * Zagor found a nice perl script called "linklint" 19.42.54 # neato 19.43.19 # I don't think I dare run one on the curl site ;-) 19.43.36 Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 19.43.36 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 19.43.49 # hehe 19.44.16 Join gerrger [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 19.44.16 Quit ripnetuk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.44.22 # 1388 links in total :-) 19.44.36 # i love pointless statistics 19.44.39 # and they're all correct now I take it? ;-) 19.45.06 # Hej hej! 19.45.31 # some mails in the archive refer to an old location of the archive, but that's all 19.46.01 # Hey, someone has stolen my shirt graphics on the t-shirt competition page! *offended* 19.46.35 # dwihno: huh? 19.46.48 # you mean the shirt outline? 19.46.53 # Yes! :( 19.46.59 # What a weener! 19.47.02 # wiener 19.47.07 # winner 19.47.09 # ;) 19.47.13 # :-( 19.47.16 # heheh 19.47.18 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA6CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.47.20 # He stole my gfx! 19.47.26 # My nice gfx0rs! 19.47.30 # He evil dude is! 19.47.31 # hi 19.47.32 # imitation is the highest form of flattery. relax. 19.48.15 # hehe 19.48.38 # Copying digital material without written permission from the owner is illegal, according to the millennium digital act :-) 19.48.54 # hehe, and you live where? :) 19.48.59 # Iran 19.49.05 # With my brother Muhammed 19.50.00 # I MUST win the competition! :-) 19.51.00 # maybe teh internet addresses could be fixed on the shirts ;) 19.51.30 # yeah 19.52.09 # I like the list of names on it ;) 19.52.46 # maybe ill try to design one, too - i'd propably good to put the irc channel on it as well 19.52.52 # i'd = it'd 19.52.53 # edx: my shirt has the correct internet address :-) 19.52.59 # hehe :D 19.53.11 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.53.11 # * edx praises dwihno for the correct address 19.53.39 # :D 19.55.18 # * dwihno praises edx for the work on the win32 simu 19.55.26 # lol 19.55.33 # havent been working on it for a while.. 19.56.10 # during the day i'm helping out at a university at the moment (doing some programs..)- that's why I dont have that much time 19.56.56 # ah, okay 19.56.56 # * Bagder mumbles 19.57.13 # * dwihno watches his roomie assemble a compter 19.57.58 # can I ask you guys an unrelated question 19.58.15 # 19.58.29 # does this make the browser load the script from that page? 19.58.42 # yea 19.58.48 # * Bagder shrugs 19.58.54 # you dont even need the / in from of mcLin.js.psp 19.59.17 # what else would it do? 19.59.27 # heck do I know 19.59.35 # I was hoping for something else 19.59.43 # what else? :) 19.59.49 # *anything* 20.00.10 # its a long story, I won't bore you with it 20.00.40 # well if you think so :] 20.02.22 # my goal being to script my way into the netscape web mail system 20.03.34 # Bagder: I got X forwarding to work now 20.03.42 # nice 20.03.49 # did you do anything special? 20.04.07 # the silly thing uses /usr/etc/ssh instead of /etc/ssh for config files 20.04.56 # happens when things stupidly set --prefix=/usr and don't take care that the config directory is /etc 20.06.08 # which did, the client? 20.06.16 # --prefix normally doesn't apply to config dir, does it? I've never seen this before 20.06.23 # Bagder: no, the server 20.06.49 # well many packages do take --prefix to apply to config dir 20.07.00 # apparently :-) 20.07.37 # it makes more sense in the /usr/local/etc or /home/foobar/package/etc case 20.07.37 # so slapping on a -f made it work? 20.08.08 # no, fixing the /usr/etc/sshd_config to enable x11forward made it work 20.08.18 # ah 20.08.30 # but i'm rebuilding it to use /etc/ssh instead 20.08.47 # "The default is /usr/local/etc/sshd_config." 20.08.52 # (man page) 20.11.32 # uh, --sysconfdir didn't help. screw this, i'm symlinking 20.11.59 Join grummel [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 20.23.48 Quit grummel () 20.24.29 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.36.59 # 29 GET requests just to login 20.37.32 # whoa! 20.37.48 # they did put an effort on obfuscating this 20.39.29 # oh, there's a few POSTs too :-/ 20.56.26 Join WetFlax [0] (~wettoad@flax.mbi-berlin.de) 20.57.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.00.57 Join PrimeSource [0] (Prime@ip68-13-126-168.om.om.cox.net) 21.04.15 Part Bagder 21.11.54 # did linus ever mention why he added a timeout to button_get in tree.c? 21.12.06 # now we redraw the screen 5 times per second :-( 21.13.28 # oh, crap. it's because he chickened out and never gave the status bar it's own thread. bleh 21.13.39 # * Zagor scratches his head 21.32.58 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 21.32.59 Quit PrimeSource (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.36.10 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 21.39.38 # Zagor: I need a tip! :-) 21.39.47 # Partition managing software dfor dODS 21.39.49 # DOS 21.40.22 # for dos? 21.40.27 # fdisk 21.40.51 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-54.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 21.40.56 # It's homosexual - it says the 80 gig disk is only 14 gig 21.41.00 # dwihno: how did you work when you designed your font? any tools? 21.41.12 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-54.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 21.41.21 # Zagor: I did it by hand in a C file which produces the .h 21.41.22 # dwihno: dos was obsoleted in the 80s. it wants to die. let it. 21.41.29 # I should convert it to a usable format (ajz) 21.43.06 # :-) 21.43.09 # Me refuses 21.43.19 # How do I partition the disk then? :-) 21.44.21 # Someone know, when Linus is back? 21.44.22 # use a linux boot floppy 21.44.36 # Zagor: smart thinking ;) 21.44.42 # freshmaker: in about 10-12 hours, I'd think 21.44.50 # it's 21:43 here 21.45.16 # Here, too ;-) 21.45.43 # oh :) 21.45.48 # i've some questions about status.c, it's from him 21.46.03 # maybe I can help 21.46.46 # moment 21.48.39 # the code for the status bar assumes, that volume is always from 0 to 100. It does not care about min, max and default values. 21.49.24 # right. that's the way it's been for a while, so it's naturally 21.50.06 # i'm experimenting with user selectable volume characteristics; so one does not need mor than 20 steps for volume setting 21.50.46 # you can select from liner, square, square root and logarithmic 21.51.04 # depending on you preferred volume listening range 21.52.44 # Zagor: eh, how do you activate the status bar? 21.53.17 # f3 21.53.49 # read the manual ;-) 21.53.53 # hmm, do i need a compile time option? 21.54.29 # no 21.54.33 # fresh - you need to turn it on in general settings 21.54.38 Nick gerrger is now known as ripnetuk (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 21.54.40 # Zagor: what dist do you recommend? 21.54.45 # Zagor: I'd prefer a single disk 21.54.46 # debian 21.54.51 # ah, for the disk. wait. 21.55.01 # nothing happens, when i press f3 in wps 21.55.42 # it's only visible in the browser 21.56.04 # ah, thanx, got it 21.56.25 # dwihno: http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Distributions/Tiny/Floppy_Sized/ 21.57.19 # i've used tomsrtbt a couple of times 21.57.24 # A single floppy? 21.57.26 # yup 21.57.36 # with fdisk? :) 21.57.57 # yes 21.58.02 # http://www.toms.net/rb/tomsrtbt.FAQ 21.58.04 # Zagor: hey, the files are > 1.44 meg! :) 21.58.53 # yeah, it formats to 1.722 meg 21.59.26 # Ok, I'm downloading some DOS file now 21.59.34 # Evil formatting 1x2 21.59.41 # Rescue floppies to the people! :) 22.02.47 # Floppies to the rescue! :-) 22.02.55 # 11.5kb/s 22.02.58 # *yawn* 22.03.01 # ahh, damn. the code is quite ok. it uses mpeg_val2phys(), right. i shouldn't code with less than 4 capucchinos... 22.03.58 # floppy-fw is nice for linux 2.4.18 one floppy things 22.04.06 # it has iptables and iproute 22.04.50 # not for formatting ofcourse 22.05.18 # dwihno: did you try the disk management in your windows to partition the drive? 22.05.26 # Hadaka: this is a 100% new computer 22.06.03 # ok then I missed the problem 22.06.55 # No disk image in the archive, Zagor 22.09.26 # you need to partition the drive in a 100% new computer? how - and for what operating systems? 22.10.43 # tomsrtbt-2.0.103/tomsrtbt.raw 22.10.56 Quit freshmaker ("i'm right back, coffee and some rebooting") 22.16.12 # Hadaka: wingaytendo 22.16.40 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) 22.19.56 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD9588387.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.20.48 # so what's wrong with just installing windows on it straight away? the volume management tools do let you separate it into partitions later on - atleast somehow I think 22.23.40 # last I installed windows, the install CD required a partitioned and formatted C: 22.23.53 # ooh 22.23.57 # i haven't touched any of the later incarnations, though, so that may have changed 22.24.01 # that shouldn't happen these days 22.24.10 # I just installed XP in VMWare at work 22.24.41 # had to install the pre-emptiple kernel patch during the installation though - got sick and tired of my mouse jerking around and computer being unusable 22.27.11 # :-) 22.27.15 # Zagor has found the GNU light! :) 22.38.03 Quit ironi__ (Remote closed the connection) 22.44.35 Join ironi_ [0] (~ironi@80.88.116.93) 22.57.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.48 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA6CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.07.33 Join grummel [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 23.07.50 Quit edx (Client Quit) 23.27.00 Join volucris [0] (jugga@alb-24-194-96-14.nycap.rr.com) 23.27.10 # hey anyone alive? 23.27.26 # yup 23.28.08 # i was wondering if there were any mods someone has done that make a archos jukebox usb2.0 compatible 23.28.42 # nope. it's rather unlikely anyone will ever do it. it's a big difference 23.29.01 # damn, i figured so...was just hoping 23.30.54 # brb 23.30.55 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 23.32.52 Quit ripnetuk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.36.28 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 23.39.21 Part volucris 23.53.31 Quit grummel ()