--- Log for 19.08.102 Server: herbert.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 6 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.43 # anyone here realise that oxygen free cords are a joke? 00.01.08 # although fun to squeeze 00.01.32 # oxygen free cords? 00.01.35 # what are oxygen free cords ? 00.02.44 # you know the cable that runs from headphone/ear piece 00.02.48 # to the plug at the end? 00.03.05 # you can get ones that have a vacume 00.03.11 # how does that help 00.03.27 # it doesn't :) like much hi fi equipment, its a total farse 00.03.52 # well what does it CLAIM.. 00.04.12 # oh, lower resistance, improves sound :) 00.04.20 # anyone else watching the next generation marathon on TNN? 00.04.28 # i live in france 00.04.35 # i take that as a no 00.04.42 # right ;)) 00.05.02 # I have CNN though 00.05.25 # but it's not the same CNN as in the us I believe, it's "CNN world" or something 00.05.50 # just because it has two Ns in it, doesn't mean it's any more likely to be showing star trek either ;) 00.06.13 # CNN sucks for one reason... the AOL adverts. 00.06.21 # AOL is evil and must be destroyed 00.06.25 # ahah :) 00.06.34 # cnn is owned by aol 00.06.46 # yes that's true 00.06.47 # i know 00.07.17 # i'd rather watch We than CNN 00.07.23 # is Universal a famous company in the us ? 00.07.30 # yeah it is 00.07.37 # universal studios and all that 00.07.43 # ok 00.07.46 # why 00.07.58 # just to know.. cause in france it's big 00.08.16 # and they say they are in a bad situation, they may be have bankrupt soon 00.08.38 # fragglet... do you have anything to do with fraggle rock 00.08.58 # bod.. accounting scandel? 00.09.19 # well no 00.09.33 # but their hmm 00.09.54 # hmm 00.09.58 # what.. 00.10.00 # shares 00.10.04 # are very low 00.10.06 # plummeted? 00.10.09 # oh i see 00.10.11 # do you have any? 00.10.23 # nop :) 00.10.26 # fortunately 00.10.39 # nothing worth investing in these days 00.10.51 # market's too dodgy 00.11.24 # that's true 00.11.47 # but anyway i dont like this principle 00.12.53 # hey the other day my archos fell from about 2 meters 00.12.59 # and no hurt 00.13.11 # was it on at the time? 00.13.25 # yes 00.13.53 # but the hard disk wasn't spinning right 00.14.18 # hmmm I'm not sure, it was playing music 00.14.37 # it only spins like 2 times per song.. and each spin is only like 5 seconds 00.14.46 # so probably not.. and that probably saved your hard disk :) 00.14.53 # hardest drop I've down, is 1.5 meters, onto marble stairs 00.14.56 # works fine :) 00.15.01 # down = done 00.15.05 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.15.05 # * Miran can't spell 00.15.07 # i'm lucky 00.15.15 # did you stomp on it afterwards? 00.15.21 # aha :) 00.15.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.54 # i've never dropped it. of course now i say that i bet i'll drop it tomorrow 00.16.43 # marble stairs are expensive 00.17.10 # * jmw was shopping for marble last weekend 00.18.03 # murphy's law 00.18.15 # they wern't my stairs :( 00.18.25 # a hotel? 00.18.28 # Bank 00.18.37 # well I was shopping for plastic floor ... even that is expensive 00.18.43 # ah. who else would have that much money, but those who steal it from you ;) 00.19.02 # Well, good thing about banks, they won't go bankrupt :) 00.28.48 # anyone seen those new sprint phones that have color LCD displays? 00.29.29 # I have a gsm phone with color display 00.29.43 # who makes it 00.29.45 # and "real sound" ringing 00.29.49 # sagem 00.29.58 # why do you have a gsm phone... aren't those for traveling around the world 00.29.59 # ? 00.29.59 # it's the my x5 00.30.20 # well no all the cell phone are gsm here 00.30.35 # really 00.30.53 # yes :) 00.44.02 Quit Miran ("Its not that you do not see, it is mearly that your eyes do not perceive") 01.01.37 Quit aakil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.05.15 Join datazone [0] ([4FrzzWPOo@207.136.36.203) 01.08.53 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-35-9-147.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.08.57 # hey 01.09.03 # got back from bestbuy 01.09.06 # took them an hour 01.09.07 # lol 01.09.20 # got a recorder? 01.09.22 # its 7 here, i was there till 6:45 and they close at 6... 01.09.24 # NO 01.09.26 # lol 01.09.30 # they dont have them in stores 01.09.30 # got a player? 01.09.33 # just online for ordering 01.09.33 # hmmm 01.09.35 # hehe 01.09.41 # so studio 20gb again 01.09.47 # so they tol dme though 01.09.49 # if i want recorder 01.09.53 # must order online 01.09.55 # pay 01.09.57 # return this one 01.10.01 # and ill get credit or something 01.10.04 # screw that 01.10.10 # yeah. 01.10.24 # so opening up box now...no reason not to break sealing...right? 01.10.25 # lol 01.10.34 # and dude, i am now scared to reinstall rockbox os 01.10.39 # cuz it could very likely happen again 01.10.44 # rockbox won't do anything bad 01.10.53 # i'd be more worried about the archos firmware :) 01.10.56 # HD ERROR 01.10.59 # lol 01.11.03 # well already locked my ahrd drive 01.11.05 # don't think that was rockbox 01.11.17 # it said the HD error that everybody speaks so lowly of 01.11.30 # mtv2 music video awards SUCKS.. what has happened to mtv 01.11.44 # well how old was your player 01.11.58 # 1 day 01.12.02 # maybe 1 1/2 01.12.07 # musta been faulty 01.12.12 # why do you say so? 01.12.21 # transfered all my mp3s 01.12.26 # all played great 01.12.29 # never known it to go wrong after 1 day ;) 01.12.37 # left it to charge 01.12.40 # came back HD error 01.12.45 # hmm 01.12.46 # also 01.12.51 # is there a slight noise when you turn the unit on? 01.12.55 # or might that be a clue? 01.13.37 # well only the hard disk noise 01.13.59 # yea 01.14.00 # alright 01.14.02 # thats what i meant 01.14.03 # sigh 01.14.13 # i may use archso firmware for a little and see if its bearable 01.14.55 # could do 01.15.07 # rockbox really didn't cause the probs though, i'm sure :) 01.15.42 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 01.16.23 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 01.16.30 # heh 01.16.35 # i am not sure though 01.16.40 # it is a oknown bug with rockbox 01.16.47 # HD error? 01.16.49 # says who 01.17.00 # the faq 01.17.45 # hmmm where 01.17.46 # hmm 01.17.49 # lemme see 01.17.50 # different error message 01.18.39 # . I tried one of your firmware files and now I can't access my harddisk! 01.18.40 # When I turn on my jukebox, it says: 01.18.40 # Part. Error 01.18.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK Jet8810 01.18.40 # Pls Chck HD 01.18.42 # i got HD Error 01.20.22 # that's because of the hard disk getting password protected... it's not the same as HD Error 01.20.29 # hmm 01.20.31 # perhaps your right 01.20.33 # getting an HD Error is *not* a known issue 01.20.39 # hehe 01.20.41 # password protected HD is easy to get around 01.20.58 # nah 01.21.01 # gotta open up unit and shit 01.21.04 # unless you have linux 01.21.09 # more a reason to install linux i suppose 01.21.27 # do ya have a mandrake iso by any chance? 01.21.34 # (dcc is far faster then ftp download) 01.22.07 # mandrake? doubt it.. 01.22.15 # got win2k here 01.22.24 # heh 01.22.29 # could ya dcc that to me/? 01.22.35 # upgrade or full version? 01.22.47 # full version 01.22.53 # you want me to DCC WINDOWS 2000 TO YOU??!!! 01.22.59 # lol how big is the file? 01.23.01 # crazy fool 01.23.05 # why? 01.23.06 # i am on dsl 01.23.07 # ahhaa :) 01.23.12 # 500Mb or something 01.23.17 # dunno, don't have the cd handy 01.23.20 # wont take more then two hours 01.23.31 # please? 01.23.32 # :) 01.23.34 # what do you want exactly 01.23.43 # win2k 01.23.47 # and a code too if possible :-p 01.23.59 # win2k doesn't need a code actually 01.24.08 # well my version doesn't anyway 01.24.15 # anywayyyyy i have to go to bed 01.24.19 # see you ! bye 01.24.21 # i don't have the cd today... lent it to someone 01.24.23 # bye bod 01.24.32 # NO!!!!!! 01.24.40 # Don't worry about it. Don't return it to Best Buy. If you have the Player off 01.24.41 # while you charge it, after a decently long amount of time, it will display HD 01.24.41 # Error for no apparent reason. All you have to do is hold the stop button to 01.24.41 # turn it off. Also, if you have the Player ON when you charge it, this doesn't 01.24.41 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.24.41 # happen. There's really no error in the HD, it just says there is :-) 01.24.41 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.24.41 # I freaked out the first time I saw that also. 01.24.43 # -Justin 01.24.46 # roflmao 01.24.48 Quit BoD[] ("dodozitude") 01.25.16 # you didn't try HOLDING THE OFF BUTTON DOWN?????????? 01.25.27 # i think so 01.25.29 # pretty sure 01.25.36 # you have to hold it down for like 3 seconds 01.25.39 # it requires patience 01.25.42 # :) 01.25.42 # lol 01.25.48 # i am really no tsure though 01.25.52 # dude 01.25.57 # I HAVE THE WORST FUCKIN LUCK EVER 01.26.04 # oh well.. you got another one now 01.26.11 # not only this 01.26.12 # everything 01.26.13 # lol 01.26.16 # at least it got you out of the house ;) 01.26.18 # tried to sell a gps, broke on me 01.26.24 # sent it in to pretec, had them ship it straight to buyer 01.26.26 # still broken 01.26.29 # sending it back 01.26.30 # sell a gps? 01.26.31 # i got to pay him back 01.26.32 # whole ordeal 01.26.34 # cf gps 01.26.46 # hmmm 01.26.49 # cf? 01.26.52 # and now pretec is ignoring my emails 01.26.54 # compact flash 01.26.57 # in pdas and such 01.26.59 # really? 01.27.01 # i want one of those 01.27.04 # yea 01.27.05 # how much did you sell it for 01.27.06 # im obsessed 01.27.09 # havent sold it yet 01.27.11 # still broken 01.27.11 # lol 01.27.15 # hmmm 01.27.22 # does it work on a pocketpc? 01.27.53 # certainly 01.27.54 # ohhh you just gave me an idea for my upcoming road trip... what was the make 01.27.55 # well 01.27.58 # not now 01.27.59 # lol 01.28.00 # pretec 01.28.02 # hehe 01.28.03 # but dont buy theirs 01.28.03 # lol 01.28.08 # hmmm 01.28.14 # so who should i get it from 01.28.25 # not sure who else makes em 01.28.28 # search on ebay 01.28.38 # hmmm 01.28.42 # for GPS and compactflash? 01.28.45 # dude, i still gotta sell this 2.0 pci lol 01.28.50 # lemme look 01.28.54 # "cf gps" 01.28.54 # usb? 01.29.00 # yep 01.29.04 # cuz i dont got a recorder 01.29.07 # ah yeah 01.29.13 # you should get a recorder 01.29.17 # it'll make it more worthwhile 01.29.20 # now 01.29.22 # life, that is 01.29.23 # how do ya reckon I do that? 01.29.24 # lol 01.29.39 # i only paid $70 for this studio so im happy 01.29.40 # get that credit BB told you about 01.29.43 # oh really 01.29.48 # i end up losing $300 though 01.29.48 # yea 01.29.54 # that's only about 200 bucks short of a recorder 01.29.56 # see I paid $230 for the 6gb nomad jukebox a year ago 01.30.05 # bestbuy warrantee 01.30.11 # so i took it in an dpaid cdifference to upgrade 01.30.18 # $70 is a hell of a difference from $270 01.30.43 # and it really isnt worth $270 to gain more text and usb 2.0 01.30.49 # hmmm 01.30.51 # you get tetris too 01.30.54 # rofl 01.30.55 # i got a pda :) 01.31.01 # with 40 games 01.31.12 Nick dwihno|weekender is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 01.31.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 01.31.15 # Good evening 01.31.18 # yeah but doesn't the archos weigh enough by itself.. without the pda 01.31.25 # pfft 01.31.34 # i dont carry the archos everywhere really 01.31.36 # at least not yet 01.31.38 # too big to do that 01.31.42 # i don't like lifting weights while playing tetris 01.31.44 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 12 minutes and 32 seconds at the last flood 01.31.44 # * dwihno carries the archos everywhere 01.31.45 # too big? 01.31.48 # look at the nomad 01.31.55 # nomad was still lighter though 01.32.03 # and see its weird 01.32.06 # nomad was size of a cd player 01.32.10 # so i held it like a cd player 01.32.17 # put it in bag, ect 01.32.31 # but this is size of a small mp3, so i want to carry it in my pocket 01.32.33 # it's good for women 01.32.36 # coz they have handbags 01.32.48 # yet a little big..yet not quite big enough to handle as i did the jukebox 01.32.48 # true 01.32.54 # us MEN don't carry bags everywhere we go 01.33.04 # hehe good point 01.33.06 # i carry pda in pocket 01.33.07 # i can put the archos in my shirt pocket 01.33.11 # i look a little weird but it works 01.33.17 # I COULD put it on my belt 01.33.19 # or put my pda in belt 01.33.20 # but nah 01.33.23 # this thing is an inch thick 01.33.25 # cargo shorts 01.33.29 # not in the holder it gives you 01.33.34 # that's just embarassing to wear 01.33.40 # i cant bring this to school...at least not practically 01.33.41 # haha 01.33.47 # why not? 01.33.50 # i wore my pda at my hip (then again in a fine leather case) 01.33.51 # someone will steal it? 01.33.53 # too big 01.33.55 # well perhaps 01.33.59 # but i bring my pda to school 01.34.02 # small private school 01.34.04 # archos is too big?? 01.34.07 # how can it be too big 01.34.42 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.34.47 # i wish they put a CF reader in the archos so you can expand the cache, transfer pictures and stuff 01.35.22 # heh 01.35.27 # too big to carry around with me at school 01.35.31 # no cargo shorts allowed at school 01.35.38 # so imagine this in a khaki shorts pocket 01.35.38 # what about these people http://www.transplantcomputing.com/mof15/gps.htm 01.35.43 # theirs is good 01.35.47 # stupid clothing rules huh? 01.35.53 # hehe yea 01.35.57 # if it was cargo wouldnt be a problem 01.36.04 # hmmm 01.36.33 # now 01.36.50 # should I let my st udio charge for an hour then use it while its plugged in (first charge) or should I let it go for its 6 hours? 01.37.12 # i think anything is fine but over charging it 01.37.25 # Jet8810: buy a MD case then... Some of the cases are big enough to fit the player 01.37.28 # not like i should really leave it alone for the 6 hours? 01.37.36 # wdihno why? 01.37.39 # even without a case its too big 01.38.11 # Jet8810: well, do you think you can find a HD based mp3 player which is smaller? :) 01.38.27 # ipod 01.38.28 # perhaps the MINE is small enough? 01.38.42 # ipod sucks 01.38.47 # ipod is significantly smaller 01.38.48 # nah 01.38.54 # ipod is far superior, but far too expensive 01.38.58 # is it though? it's thinner... not smaller 01.39.07 # well thinner is all i need 01.39.07 # well smaller too 01.39.08 # :) 01.39.14 # but more thinner than.. you get the ide 01.39.15 # a 01.39.15 # hmm, the MINE is 1" thick too 01.39.15 # thinness is what really matters in a pocket 01.39.26 # heh 01.39.27 # dwihno.. i really didn't need to know that 01.39.31 # ipod is .75 inches i think 01.40.24 # what processor does the ipod have 01.40.37 # I'd guess some motorola stuff 01.40.47 # not SH? 01.40.52 # ARM something 01.40.55 # hmmm 01.41.01 # prolly better than 12mhz too 01.41.01 # 133 MHz ARM 7TDMI 01.41.04 # eek 01.41.08 # haha 01.41.09 # yea 01.41.12 # ipod is superior :) 01.41.17 # why do they need all that power 01.41.22 # does it do software decoding? 01.41.44 # that might explain the size of it 01.41.50 # 32 meg DRAM :-) 01.41.59 # really? 01.42.00 # damnit 01.42.13 # do they do a 20gb yet? 01.42.38 # You could probably switch the drive by yourself 01.43.08 # upgradable firmware? 01.43.56 # probably 01.44.01 # firewire though 01.44.10 # i like firewire 01.44.11 # yea 01.44.12 # what's wrong with it 01.44.14 # they got 20 gb 01.44.16 # but its $500 01.44.22 # which is why i got archos instead 01.44.24 # ooo pricey 01.44.28 # hmmm.. 01.45.10 # Is it possible to make the unit thinner? 01.45.15 # I mean, 1" is quite much 01.45.39 # the archos? 01.45.51 # yea 01.46.08 # prolly all the cheapo chips they use are bigger 01.48.30 # hehe 01.48.35 # i lke the cheapo chips 01.48.36 # so leave it 01.48.42 # makes it much cheaper 01.48.47 # even the creative 20gb one is $400 01.49.36 # nomad has all those sound processing chips.. for reverb and all that 01.51.06 # yea 01.51.15 # my old 6 gb nomad was actually pretty good 01.51.31 # archos is pretty good too, but in a completely different way 01.53.11 # what way 01.54.41 # cheap, easy to send over files 01.54.44 # easy to set up 01.54.53 # and the way in which things are organized is different 01.54.56 # not quite accustomed to it 01.55.07 # it doesn't act as a HD tho right.. when you plug it in 01.55.10 # on jukebox i could sort by album, artist, ect, but I had to transfer all my stuff via their software 01.55.17 # i like the way the archos just mounts as a drive 01.55.18 # not the jukebox 01.55.21 # right 01.55.24 # i am getting used to that 01.55.37 # with jukebox i could make queue lists easily too 01.55.40 # on this it is much ahrder 01.55.41 # harder 01.57.01 # yeah 01.57.05 # but rockbox could fix that :) 01.57.22 # haha 01.57.31 # dude 01.57.34 # archos firmware sucks ass :) 01.57.59 # it's all a matter of time 01.58.52 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.58.54 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-35-9-147.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.59.35 # rockbox asap 01.59.35 # lol 01.59.58 # thought you said you had dsl 02.00.06 # why you having so many connx probs 02.01.08 # oh well i gotta wash dishes.. bbl 02.01.10 # aw 02.01.12 # cuz its bellsouth 02.01.22 # get cable instead 02.01.28 # laters 02.01.49 Quit jmw ("grrr dishes") 02.01.54 # w/e 02.01.57 # i know the problem 02.02.02 # and blelsouth is bgonna fix it on tues 02.02.10 Quit Jet8810 (Client Quit) 02.15.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.03.25 Join RedLeg [0] (~apotter@apotter.static.pa.net) 04.03.35 # Greetz.... 04.04.12 # Anybody up for a (non-electronic) hardware question? 04.04.45 # Or should I have asked first, Anybody Up (awake)? 04.06.40 # what other kinda hardware is there? :p 04.08.08 # One of my dawgs got ahold of the JR20 while we were at dinner tonight. I am now in need of one of the BRFs (Blue Rubber Feet). 04.08.25 # Are there replacements available? 04.15.40 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 05.27.14 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 05.46.27 Join sombit [0] (~email@ool-18b8de44.dyn.optonline.net) 05.55.11 # "dawgs?" 05.55.40 # one of your "peeps" or your "niggas" 05.56.22 # yo peace werd up homiez 05.56.43 # * datazone throws gang signs 06.12.37 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 06.13.34 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 06.15.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.18.59 # dawgs := dogs 06.19.28 # As in "the dog ate my homework" 06.45.40 Quit sombit ("http://acidcode.8m.com") 06.46.10 Quit RedLeg ("Client Exiting") 07.21.00 Quit MeRWiN (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 NSplit herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.21.00 Quit PsycoXul (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit PiotR (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit Synthe (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit mbr (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit Tebe (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit matp (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit Hadaka (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit adi|work (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit adi|home (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit webmind_ (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.00 Quit dwihno (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.21.36 NHeal herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.21.36 NJoin MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 07.21.36 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-75.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 07.21.47 NJoin PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 07.21.47 NJoin Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 07.21.47 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 07.21.47 NJoin matp [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 07.21.47 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@pool-151-204-138-24.ny325.east.verizon.net) 07.21.47 NJoin mbr [0] (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 07.21.47 NJoin Tebe [0] (coyote@mysko.net) 07.22.29 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 07.23.09 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@216.194.24.208) 07.23.09 NJoin webmind_ [0] (webmind@130.89.167.232) 07.23.16 Quit webmind_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.23.16 Join webmind [0] (webmind@130.89.167.232) 07.24.47 Quit webmind (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.24.47 Quit adi|home (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.24.59 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@130.89.167.232) 07.24.59 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@216.194.24.208) 07.42.34 # anyone around? 08.07.23 # jooh 08.08.16 # heya hes 08.13.15 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 08.13.58 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 08.15.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.19.29 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.19.37 # morning 08.19.46 # heya bag 08.20.07 # found an error in the resume code 08.20.28 # oh, good work! ;-) 08.21.42 # I was updating the wps code and found that id3->index doesn't get ++'d if it has more than 1 track in the buffer (ie: a 30 second song) 08.23.39 # I'm not that into how the resume stuff works, that's mostly Zagor's stuff 08.24.08 # me neither :) 08.26.21 # I added that feature request for a 1 line id3 display on the player (PlaylistPos: Artist - Title) and the time underneath... the only problem is that I had to re-arrange the WPS menu on the player (the option is only available on the player, since all the info is available on the recorder in plain view anyways). This will require people with players to reset their WPS setting the first time. Think it matters? 08.27.34 # how do they reset that setting and what happens if they don't? 08.28.43 # well, for instance. In the WPS menu there is now "1 Line ID3", "2 Line ID3", "File ", "Parse ". There used to only be "ID3 Tags", "File ", "Parse ". So if you had it set to "File", when the player was started up with the new firmware it would load as 2 Line ID3 :) All you have to do is change it in the menu and it's set for good. 08.31.23 # I see 08.32.02 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.32.02 # It's the only way I see to implement this though :) 08.32.09 # good morning ! 08.32.14 # morning crackhead 08.32.17 # I would rather have the code detect that an old setting was used and reset that to default... but this system doesn't allow that easily 08.32.45 # Bagder: we need to add a byte in the saved settings for a version lablel. 08.32.51 # label rather 08.32.59 # well we do I think 08.33.19 # "version byte" 08.34.31 # Have the code check the version byte and if it's <= 1.2, reset the wps to 0 08.35.54 # the version byte in the config is not really bound to our release versions and is only an increasing number, now at 1 08.36.04 # OK, increase it to 2 then :) 08.36.05 # and if it differs, it resets all settings to default I believe 08.36.10 # hmmm 08.36.18 # which is a drawback in this case 08.37.42 # Personally, I think that if people have spent the time to change the WPS setting in the first place, they'll know how to change it back :) It's only 5 or so keypresses. 08.38.20 # If it's at 0 already, then the new 0 still shows the same ID3 info, and more. 08.38.36 # hm, that might be right yes 08.38.41 # So it won't really affect people that haven't customized 08.38.51 # and it doesn't crash or anything, just don't show the same info 08.39.19 # it should however be noted in the upcoming release-notes of course, if this goes into the source 08.39.28 # yeah... definately should be noted 08.40.27 # I'm hoping for a 1.3 release this week 08.40.31 # The new 0 (1 line id3 display) is actually a more preferred display than the 2 line id3 display, so it's a good default. Shows all the id3 info and the time instead of just id3 08.40.34 # 1.3 this week? nice :) 08.40.56 # you have a recorder? 08.40.59 # yes 08.41.14 # wanna test out the patch really quick and make sure it doesn't screw anything up on the recorder? 08.41.52 # well, I don't have any usb where I am now so I could only try out the build with it, not try it "in action" 08.42.02 # ahh 08.42.07 # and I guess you can try the build yourself too ;-) 08.42.10 # yeah :) 08.42.25 # * Bagder is at work 08.42.39 # You sure get alot of work done, huh? 08.42.51 # eeeh... well sometimes I do ;-] 08.42.59 # same here 08.43.27 # I'm in a pretty relaxed project right now so I can pretty much do as I please 08.43.46 # ahhh... i like it when that happens 08.48.34 # hm 08.48.40 # I can't make it resume at all on my recorder 08.48.45 # ouch 08.48.51 # it doesn't resume when I press play after the q 08.49.07 # The config revision was increased from 0 to 1 after 1.2's release, so the new default for wps will apply if people upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3 08.49.08 # Bagder: does MENU+LEFT and MENU+RIGHT work on the recorder? I noticed some code in the WPS that would seem to make it not work 08.49.36 # it won't apply if people have gone to CVS versions after the revision++ 08.50.08 # MeRWiN: you mean fast forward and backward? there's no MENU button on recorders ;-) 08.50.23 # no, volume... or is there built in volume buttons? 08.50.44 # ah volume is simply up and down on the recorder 08.50.49 # in the wps 08.50.54 # and it works fine 08.52.05 # okey 08.52.27 # that is why MENU+LEFT/RIGHT is ifdef'd then 08.52.38 # yes 08.52.40 # ok 08.59.20 # ok, resume doesn't work correctly if I enable it while already playing a playlist 09.00.39 Join adi|dads [0] (adi_dads@138.89.23.129) 09.00.54 # heya adi 09.01.01 # we're reaching an adi overflow here soon ;-) 09.01.08 # heheheh 09.01.19 # MeRWiN im going to have to cancel on you this week 09.01.24 # adi|dads: durn 09.01.25 # i won't be in the area 09.01.29 # * adi|dads nods 09.01.40 # life decided to ass rape me... 09.01.44 # really? 09.01.46 # but atleast it was gentle 09.01.47 # how so 09.01.47 # * adi|dads nods 09.02.01 # gf and i were at my fathers for the wkend 09.02.04 # drove to the beach 09.02.13 # enroute, i banged up her car 09.02.21 # its not drivable and is at a body shop 09.02.25 # adi|dads: what did you hit? 09.02.27 # so i gave her mine till its repaired 09.02.31 # a BMW 09.02.33 # ouch 09.02.34 # he stopped 09.02.37 # neither of us saw it 09.02.38 # that's going to be hell on insurance 09.02.45 # i hit it doing ~ 30-45 09.02.48 # * adi|dads nods 09.02.55 # adi|dads: that'll crunch the bimmer 09.03.07 # actually he didn't get much damage 09.03.10 # what do you drive? 09.03.29 # i hit the brakes in time, skidded for 20 ft or so, then -wHam- (c) 09.03.39 # her car is a hyundai elantra 09.03.45 # talk about 'crumple zone' 09.03.53 # but the good news is 1. no one hurt 09.03.55 # ouch. hyundai's are about as bad as Geos for crunch. 09.03.58 # 2. its repairable 09.04.13 # 3. airbags didn't go off.. so no replacement needed 09.04.22 # I had a geo storm and rear-ended a bus going about 20 (didn't realise it was stopped in the middle of the road). totaled the car :) 09.04.35 # airbags didn't go off? i'd sue :) 09.05.41 # hehehe 09.05.48 # no... it was an off center crash 09.05.56 # im just assuming the impact wasn't hard enough 09.06.12 # but needless to say, im trapped at my father's till its repaired 09.06.26 # and im going to pay the diff. of her increased insurance 09.06.37 # well, just look at it this way... it's more quality time with your father 09.06.43 # lol 09.06.48 # i feel trapped already 09.07.12 # cars are a great thing to have when visiting parents 09.07.14 # add to that that the nausea of the 'oh shit i realy fucked up' hasn't gone away ;) 09.07.33 # after the first 3 or 4 wrecks, you get used to it. trust me 09.07.33 # heh 09.07.46 # hehehehe this is about my... hmmmm.. 5th? 09.07.53 # its just diff cause its my gf's car 09.08.01 # yeah. I understand that 09.08.06 # sighs 09.08.14 # so ill have to ask for a raincheck mate ;) 09.08.20 # sounds good. 09.08.35 # I'm sure I'll be back there fairly soon 09.08.38 # but if you want, ill still check with a few friends up there and see if they can recommend any restaurants for ya... 09.08.41 # * adi|dads nods 09.09.11 # I'm sure we can find something up there 09.09.33 # k... 09.10.08 # Bagder: so, I guess my update is OK, since the settings will get reset with 1.3 anyways 09.10.26 # MeRWiN: indeed 09.10.44 # good to hear 09.11.07 # interesting.. we got a 'i don't use it, it doesn't do everything i need' on the pole... 09.12.02 # Wow. How can it not do everything you need? the only thing it doesn't do is recursive playlists... well, that and make breakfast 09.12.42 # you can't edit the playlists, just to mention one thing 09.13.03 # and he might have a recorder and we can record yet 09.13.13 # nods 09.13.23 # but i like this quote in the messages: In the tradition of the Rockbox people, they have the 09.13.23 # problem solved by the time you get around to complain 09.13.23 # about it. 09.13.32 # lol 09.13.37 # :-) 09.15.09 # okay.. im going to try and sleep some... see you guys tomorrow.. 09.15.10 # nite 09.15.12 Quit adi|dads () 09.19.19 Quit PsycoXul ("Changing server") 09.28.22 # Bagder: how do you commit more than one file at once? 09.28.38 # line them up on the command line 09.28.46 # or just 'ci' in the dir to commit them all that are changed 09.29.02 # uh, 'ci' or 'commit' 09.29.25 # line them up on the command line? as in cvs commit -m "blah blah" file1.c file2.c 09.29.30 # yes 09.29.34 # ok... 09.29.50 # the same comment applies to all files then of course 09.30.19 # yeah... That's what I'm lookin' for 09.31.25 # an and in an if statement is &&, right? 09.31.26 # :) 09.31.38 # yes 09.31.46 # logical and 09.37.36 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 09.38.06 # morning matsl 09.38.12 # morrn 09.38.15 # what's wrong with this: 09.38.16 # if(id3->artist == "" && id3->title == "") 09.38.44 # they're pointers, they don't equal "" 09.39.00 # how would I check for empty string? 09.39.16 # use strcmp() or check if the first byte is zero 09.39.39 # if((id3->artist[0] == 0) && ... 09.39.46 # ahh... k 09.40.09 # but 09.40.19 # I believe id3->artist is NULL unless set 09.40.30 # so... 09.40.48 # if(!id3->artist && !id3->title) 09.40.50 # is good enough 09.40.55 # simple enough 09.42.37 # ouch... !id3->artist makes the player crash :) 09.44.42 # hm 09.44.44 # out of curiosity, what does id3->artist?id3->artist:"" do, and can it be useful in this problem? 09.44.51 # I know what it does, but what does the ? and : mean 09.45.00 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 09.45.06 # (condition)?if true:if false; 09.45.26 # wow, that's about as condensed as perl :) 09.45.45 # hehe 09.46.09 # just use a couple of nested of these conditional ones and it'll become a real mess ;-) 09.46.24 # so, really, !id3->artist should be fine 09.46.46 # I think it should 09.46.54 # I can't see why it isn't 09.47.02 # must be my code then :) 09.48.57 # yup, found my problem. 09.50.59 # MeRWiN: I think Hardeep's patch should fix that resume problem with multiple buffers in memory 09.51.08 # has it been commited? 09.51.12 # no 09.51.13 # ahh 09.51.29 # i thought it had been commited by now 09.51.30 # I leave that to Zagor, as uber-resume-meister 09.51.39 # :) 09.51.53 # Is there a variable for just the filename, not the whole path? 09.52.15 # in the id3 info struct you mean? 09.52.43 # anywhere accessable in the wps 09.52.45 # wps.c 10.00.26 # nevermind... id3->path is just that 10.00.42 Nick matsl is now known as matsl|away (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 10.03.18 # woo. made "smart" id3 display. shows the filename if there's no id3 available. 10.13.12 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-75.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 10.15.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.24.38 # MeRWiN: any thoughts on Brian King's WPS file parse patch? 10.28.27 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.28.38 # morning, guys 10.29.05 # morning Z 10.29.14 # I had a resume problem this morning 10.29.24 # ok, what happened? 10.29.37 # I loaded a playlist, enabled resume, pressed pause, and then OFF 10.29.49 # booted up, got the Q, pressed play... 10.29.54 # ... and nothing happened 10.30.07 # odd 10.30.10 # rebooted again, and it turned out the same 10.30.31 # then I loaded the playlist again (with resume already enabled), and remade the whole thing and it worked nicely 10.31.30 # ah. you enabled resume _after_ you loaded the first playlist? 10.31.36 # yes 10.31.46 # I didn't realize it was an option ;-) 10.32.03 # the playlist name is only stored when loading the list. that's why it bugged. 10.32.31 # ah, I thought it would be something like that 10.32.44 # it needs to be fixed 10.32.54 # yes 10.33.26 # btw, I didn't do anything with the Hardeep patch, I think you're the man to deal with it 10.33.36 # yes, I will. 10.46.07 # Bagder: you know you can get the yahoo mails delivered to you haxx address? 10.46.15 # I know 10.46.28 # I just rather read them on the forum at will 10.46.43 # I already drown in mails ;-) 10.46.53 # ok. your posts just look a bit anonymous without your real name on them 10.46.56 # gnus is nice ;) 10.47.07 # Zagor: I know ;-) 10.47.29 # well, its not really a client problem as I see it 10.47.43 # I like my 14 inboxes with pine 10.48.07 # Hadaka: how do you mean gnus handle big volumes better than eg pine or mutt? 10.49.03 # well Gnus is made for to be a newsreader - and newsreaders usually have to deal with huge volumes and lots of groups - so almost everything suits very well for that 10.49.16 # scoring is the best I've seen in any mailer yet 10.50.34 # I'm not saying that you can't handle big volumes with mutt - just that I find it immensely easier with gnus 10.51.47 # * Bagder is about register yet another project on sourceforge... 10.54.13 # * Zagor grabs some breakfast 11.00.54 Nick matsl|away is now known as matsl (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 11.09.25 # the player wps info is certainly a debatable issue ;-) 11.11.19 # yes.. 11.26.17 Join Lowfiler [0] (H@pD9E68041.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.26.23 # heya 11.26.40 # morning Lowfiler 11.27.45 # morning 11.33.58 # It would be nice to have lots of different mp3-files to test with. maybe a complete filesystem. Could we produce such a thing? Copyright problems? 11.35.13 # copyright would probably be a problem. we could use freely distributed files (such as our eternal test band Machinae Supremacy) to at least lessen the risk of complaints 11.36.11 # I wonder if there is any 90 mins low-quality freely available mp3s ;-) 11.36.28 # yeah.. 11.37.05 # I'm pretty sure it is an overflow in the math for those 11.37.12 # I have put a couple of different bitrate versions of machiae's "Giana Sisters" here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mp3/ 11.37.28 # You could record the discussion at snaxx ... 11.37.48 # I guess anyone can record just noise for N mins 11.37.53 # could work 11.38.24 # What about a test module in CVS with mp3s 11.38.35 # nah, too big 11.38.55 # they would also change very very rarely, so a web site is just as good 11.38.58 # cvs is crap for that sort of thing, it's better to have a set on the site 11.39.40 # ok. But CVS makes it easier to add a new testfile. 11.39.50 # very true 11.41.34 # we have some really odd bygs reported now... 11.42.44 # Zagor: try the "submit new bug report" page now 11.42.54 # Bagder: how is your ping against contactor? 11.43.05 # crap 11.43.20 # major crap really 11.43.30 # good. so it's not me. I've notified Jon. 11.43.35 # round-trip min/avg/max = 720.060/963.555/1196.290 ms 11.43.39 Join Blaster_Master [0] (~noone@firewall.scribona.com) 11.43.43 # yeah, about the same here 11.43.50 # from home that is 11.44.19 # 9 kst29.fasteth0-0.swip.net (130.244.198.218) 16.056 ms 15.976 ms 16.578 ms10 contact1-gw.swip.net (130.244.22.18) 815.177 ms 790.283 ms 818.161 ms 11.44.30 # definitely C being choked 11.44.45 # yeps 11.45.07 # but it is before our router, its the Tele2 router 11.45.16 # try ping contact1-gw.swip.net 11.45.42 # but that one's after the 2Mbit limiter, I think 11.45.56 # hm, might be 11.55.20 # just trying the resume functionality. 2 things. 11.55.33 # 1 should we have an auto resume feature? 11.55.54 # 2 i have recorder. is it supposed to do mid-song resume? 11.56.25 # what is auto resume? 11.56.36 # 2. yes 11.57.27 # when it boots up, it asks me whether I want to resume. Should we have a boolean flag in the menu which will automatically resume without asking me the question. 11.57.48 # 2. it doesn't 11.57.58 # yeah, maybe. I was thinking having resume be off/on/ask. 11.58.08 # exactly. good idea 11.58.16 # how do you test mid-song resume on your recorder 11.58.17 # ? 11.58.42 # i tried pause, then off, then on. i also tried just off, then on. neither work :( 11.59.08 # you did hold off, right, never releasing it until the unit powers off? 11.59.18 # yep 11.59.20 # what happens? 11.59.53 # it powers off. when i power on and resume, it resumes at the start of the last track. 12.00.23 # did it really? the timer says so, but it doesn't on mine 12.00.25 # interesting. it works for me and many others 12.00.39 # ah, right. the timer is wrong, you must listen to the track 12.00.47 # ahh. i'm only looking at the timer. not got the headphones plugged in yet. 12.01.05 # ah, goodie. yeah i mentioned that in my resume mail. 12.02.21 # so you did. sorry. my fault :) 12.02.30 # :) 12.02.31 # great work guys!! 12.02.45 # killer feature 12.03.12 # indeed it is. one more thing that pushes us far ahead of the stock firmware. 12.03.53 # now we just need recording to complete the picture 12.09.20 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.09.44 # * Bagder bows before LinusN 12.10.37 # Benoit did the same assumption I guess 12.11.03 # i'll respond 12.12.38 # I'll go and have lunch ;-) 12.12.56 # god idea, me too 12.13.11 # Zagor: fix the faq link on the web menu to point to the html version 12.13.27 # yup 12.15.51 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 12.16.27 # * LinusN got a Snake game in his mailbox yesterday 12.16.36 # Yeah! 12.16.52 # a snake game? 12.17.23 # yup, like the Nokia Snake 12.17.29 # he says... 12.17.43 Nick matsl is now known as matsl|lunch (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 12.18.45 Quit Blaster_Master (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.18.55 # It's a classic 12.19.31 # LinusN: yeah, but where did it come from? why'd it end up in your mailbox? 12.19.45 # i haven't tried it yet though 12.19.55 # he mailed me about having trouble to test it 12.20.01 # i said "send it" 12.20.09 # he? 12.20.17 # jealous? :-) 12.20.22 # curious 12.20.31 # Itai Shaked 12.20.47 # not Stirred 12.20.49 # :-) 12.21.27 # you are a master of Saying Very Little in Very Many Words :-) 12.22.10 # If I say NO to resume. Can I ever resume that playlist again? 12.22.23 # matp: no 12.22.33 # I'm thinking if the user reloads the playlist, maybe it should ask him i he wants to resume it? 12.22.57 # possible, if he hasn't played anything else in between 12.24.31 # yeah, i need to do some dir browsing, play a game or something, then resume. just an idea.. 12.29.38 # OK, got another one. Play a playlist. Pause it. Press ON to go to dirbrowse. How do you I get back to the WPS (paused) screen? Should be ON again? 12.29.42 # brb 12.30.15 # isn't it? 12.31.14 # aah, is_playing is false! mooo 12.32.28 # BTW, i don't really like the "end of song list" text (that I introduced). I'd rather go to the dir browser when done. 12.32.38 # opinions? 12.32.58 # when does it occur, anyway? aren't we always repeating? 12.34.23 # now, yes 12.34.48 # it will return when we are able to disable the repeat mode 12.35.11 # i agree, dropping to the browser is better 12.35.27 # but we have problems with detecting the end of list 12.36.14 # sometimes when the mpeg thread hasn't looked up the id3 tags yet (next-next-next...) wps thinks that the playlist has ended 12.36.37 # I like it that the simulator also resumes :-) 12.36.42 # :-) 12.37.42 # LinusN: I don't like it either 12.41.38 # Anyone thought of an "Add To Favourites" keypress now ? 12.42.14 # we can't write files yet 12.43.59 # How does resume work then? Sorry, I'm playing catchup here 12.44.16 # it saves to a sector on disk 12.44.21 # sector 61 12.44.40 # like the stock firmware does 12.44.49 # (but the use sector 62) 12.44.52 # they 12.45.10 # ahh, ok 12.47.52 # i did some interestion tests this weekend, regarding battery life 12.47.56 # interesting 12.48.29 # first, i drained the batteries 12.48.37 # then i charged them using rockbox 12.48.45 # tokk a few hours 12.48.56 # then i let it play until it died 12.49.02 # 6 hours 12.49.15 # What voltage did the charge stop at? 12.49.20 # after that i charged again using my external fast charger 12.49.35 # Hes: forgot to check that 12.49.51 # after running for 7 hours i had to go to bed 12.50.03 # and the battery meter was still half full 12.50.13 # The battery meter scale isn't linear... 12.50.20 # i know 12.50.29 Nick matsl|lunch is now known as matsl (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 12.50.36 # We're stopping charging a little bit early 12.50.38 # on the safe side 12.50.43 # my point is that we still have work to do on the charger 12.50.53 # Yes, this is a known fact 8-) 12.50.58 # maybe the trickle "topping off" will do the trick 12.51.11 # That's the next thing to try, yes 12.51.33 # the current code stops after voltage has not been increasing for 30 minutes 12.51.45 # i have a nice idea about the RTC 12.51.58 # LinusN: which AC adapter did you use? 12.52.02 # the RTC stops when the voltage goes below a critical level 12.52.08 # it never gets to the sharp negative delta, it stops just before that 12.52.10 # Zagor: stock Kingston 12.52.38 # so we can see at what time the RTC stopped when we boot up sgain 12.54.20 # Uwe was speaking about the voltage not rising in "phase 2" 13.02.18 # I think doing a trickle charge with a timer after the 30-min no-rise detection hits might do the trick. 13.02.47 # Hes: have you observed how long the no-rise time normally is, before negative delta occurs? 13.02.54 # Hes: so the short delta is absent after 30 minutes 0-delta? 13.03.59 # It's not absent. Haven't tried (should try with a forced-on charger once) 13.04.16 # It probably could be much better just with a little bit of tuning 13.04.53 # eg. lower the negative delta threshold a little, now that we have a better delta calculation which does not jump around that much 13.05.04 # Hes: we should probably have the charger ON when we boot 13.05.14 # and longer the 30 mins 0-delta time 13.05.18 # otherwise it's hard to boot when the batteries are dead 13.05.44 # Yeah... check for a low voltage immediately after boot and enable charger if needed 13.05.53 # could do this pretty easily in the power thread 13.06.47 # I still think the charger could be made quite a bit better with just tuning the delta constants 13.06.54 # good 13.07.13 # they can be tuned more precisely now that hd-on samples are discarded and we have better and more correct averages 13.07.17 Join Blaster_Master [0] (~noone@194.19.130.1) 13.07.32 # is resume supported on the JB6000 ? 13.07.47 # before we got false detections with small delta detections 13.08.05 # Blaster_Master: yes 13.09.02 # Zagor: you checked my "submit new" bug report html change? 13.09.17 # yes. very nice. I added a 4th point about reporting archos model. 13.09.29 # good point 13.09.41 # people always say "on my archos jukebox"... 13.10.59 # "which model Archos" should probably be "which Archos model" 13.11.01 # i have a nice idea about how to clean up the wps mess: we move every "submode" (ffwd, volume, etc) into a separate function 13.11.07 # im playing a tune.... pauses .... (presses STOP to shutdown), boots up, nothing happens... 13.11.14 # that way, we get rid of all the state variables 13.11.28 # Blaster_Master: you run a recent version? 13.11.36 # Blaster_Master: you must enable resume first in the settings 13.11.41 # 1.2 does not support resume 13.13.21 # no option for it... got version CVS-020816 13.13.30 # you need later 13.13.47 # get today's version 13.13.59 # check the front page, resume was added on the 16th and was thus included in the daily build of the 17th 13.14.42 # suggestion: we could work on the roadmap on the web a bit 13.14.51 # yes. 13.15.03 # edit the 1.3 one, add a 1.4 one 13.15.23 # btw, should we turn on proportional fonts as default in the builds? 13.15.34 # doh doh doh , i upped the wrong version to my player :D 13.15.42 # =) 13.16.25 # Bagder: not until we have fixed the width calculation bug for the scroller 13.16.35 # it would be cool to have the roadmap somewhat up-to-date and possibly on its own page to redirect lots of questioners to 13.16.42 # LinusN: why not the other way around? 13.16.48 # then it will be fixed sooner 13.16.59 # ok :-) 13.17.04 # EXTREMUS MAXIMUS ! yet another reason NOT to run the archos sw added :DDD 13.17.21 # * Bagder agrees 13.17.30 # c00l as ice! 13.17.34 # Blaster_Master: it works then, I guess? :-) 13.19.51 # we need to get an archos battery faq. or get battery info into the faq. people on the yahoo list are really upset that the players don't stop charging. 13.20.11 # yes, we should have a separate battery page 13.20.36 # "all you wanted to know about your Archos batteries but were too afraid to ask about" 13.20.42 # :-) 13.20.47 # :) 13.23.55 # want me to collect the initial 10 questions? 13.24.02 # sure, go ahead 13.25.25 # perfectly ! 13.30.55 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 13.31.00 Mode "#rockbox +o LinusN " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 13.31.02 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 13.32.59 # "How much are replacement batteries?" 13.34.41 # I'll add that one 13.34.53 # how much are they then? :) 13.37.17 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EA9A37.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.37.28 # hey 13.37.45 # hi edx 13.38.34 # Bagder, are you there? 13.38.42 # yep 13.38.57 # Bagder: good question :) 13.38.59 # the low quality mp3 you want 13.39.15 # i have an mp3 88 mins, live-recorder at a concert - would that be ok 13.39.28 # matp: oh well, I only write up the questinos at first anyway ;-) 13.39.34 # edx: certainly 13.39.35 # I can give you any quality below or equal to 128 kbits 13.39.50 # what qualities would you prefer? 13.39.52 # gimme a nice set and I'll be very happy 13.39.55 # if you own the copyrights for the concert (ie. permission songwriters & performers) 13.40.24 # right, no bootlegging here 13.40.33 # doh.. i dont even know whose concert it is 13.41.27 # hm, well in that case I think we rather be safe than sorry 13.41.43 # yea.. 13.42.04 # hmmm what else could I have that is like 90 mins and not copyrighted?! 13.42.07 # Zagor: I'll add a file in www/docs named battery.t 13.42.28 # ok 13.42.32 # edx: you can record whatever, birds, you singing, silence, you vacuuming your apartment... :-) 13.42.50 # Bagder: you have a recorder, why don't you do it? 13.43.05 # because rockbox doesn't record 13.43.11 # I don't have usb here 13.43.20 # ok 13.44.16 # Zagor: now, I added 11 frequent battery questions 13.44.27 # ok 13.44.41 # no answers though ;-) 13.46.51 # Bagder: the mp3 is available for free download (just noticed) 13.47.26 # www.tranceaddict.com - i'll get it and convert it to a set of qualities, ok? 13.47.45 # sure 13.50.42 # what voltage are the std batteries? 13.51.37 # 1.2V 13.52.56 # hmm, this fit the bill? 13.53.01 # http://www.ibsa.com/estore/view_product_detail.asp?mscssid=2ED37T0FLS798GG92JBN9C6SEEV32G08&part_number=ASC1015&category_id=0&find_spec=nimh&js=1 13.53.39 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 13.54.44 # matp: doesn't look very interesting 13.55.09 # they are not the correct form factor (2/3 AA) and they are only 600mAh 13.56.49 # http://www.greenbatteries.com are a good page both for info and purchasing 14.01.12 # btw, I really agree with whoever say shuffle mode should not mean you don't play the file you select. it's a silly feature. 14.01.29 # Me too 14.01.30 # I agree 14.01.39 # it should play the selected song first 14.01.41 # Zagor: the problem is that you *have* to select one 14.02.02 # LinusN: yes. but i think everyone will be confused by the current system. 14.02.09 # if you want full shuffle, make a playlist 14.02.11 # what does a CD player do? 14.02.20 # Zagor: easy to say 14.02.31 # my CD player plays the current song, then do random 14.02.43 # as the random takes place on the next-song 14.03.02 # but some CD players do random at once when the random button is pressed 14.03.15 # i expect the player to play the selected song 14.03.17 # it isn't a good comparison though, as CD-players are not directories 14.06.35 # ok, so basically we all agree. any volunteer to fix it? 14.06.56 # I can have a look 14.07.08 # good 14.08.09 # * Bagder likes 'make tags' 14.08.55 Quit Blaster_Master (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.12.04 Join schuepf [0] (~schuepf@pD9E5826E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.13.23 # hm, the code is neatly uncommented... 14.13.34 # :-) 14.13.51 # like start_index and start_offset... what's the diff? ;-) 14.14.20 # playlist index and offset in file 14.14.25 # for resume 14.14.33 # aha 14.15.17 # * Bagder adds some comments 14.15.46 # Hi there, I`m pretty new here...what brought me here is my interest to implement/build a connect to my Canon S40 camera to download pictures to the archos - do you see any chance ? 14.15.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.15.58 # nope 14.16.01 # no i don't 14.16.13 # schuepf: only with a smart box (compiter) between them 14.16.17 # computer 14.16.29 # the archos can only work as an ATA-to-USB bridge, as a slave 14.16.44 # both are usb slaves, which can't talk to each other. they need a master ("host") 14.16.48 Nick Lowfiler is now known as Low[a] (H@pD9E68041.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.17.39 # Bagder: perhaps the easiest way is to start shuffling at 1 instead of 0 if it's a ram playlist 14.18.27 # umm, no that won't work. sorry, carry on :) 14.18.43 # heh 14.19.06 # It's a pitty that the documentation of the isd200 is gone with the merge of the company to cypress...does anyone have it ? 14.19.22 # I have it, but I'm not allowed to distribute it :-( 14.19.24 Quit schuepf (Remote closed the connection) 14.19.26 # you can always keep track of where the selected song ended up after the shuffle, and go from there 14.19.43 # LinusN: yes, that's my plan 14.20.03 # find it again, or keep track of it? 14.20.11 # find it again 14.20.12 # maybe we should make it an.......option? 14.20.31 # hehe 14.20.31 # LinusN: not unless a dozen people scream about it, IMHO 14.20.31 Join schuepf [0] (~schuepf@pD9E5826E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.20.38 # I agree 14.20.49 # ok 14.21.21 # sorry...please resend the last directed at me (I killed my window :-(( 14.21.40 # schuepf: I have the docs, but I'm not allowed to distribute it :-( 14.21.52 # no windows is killing u schuepf ! 14.22.13 # :) 14.22.27 # schuepf: still, the isd200 is strictly an ATA bridge. you can't do any tricks with it. 14.22.57 # you must put a host between the devices, it's the only way to do it 14.23.19 # I understood...maybe building a host device just to copy the data... 14.23.42 # yes, that would be possible. and popular, I think. many people have asked the same thing. 14.24.11 # schuepf: build one and get rich! 14.24.17 # but you don't know of any starting a project of that kind 14.24.24 # nope 14.29.29 # now, shall I test this or just commit and listen to the screams... :-) 14.29.34 # ... I think i'll test first 14.29.38 # :-P 14.30.44 # Bagder: send a patch to me, if you can't test it 14.31.05 # seems to work in the simulator 14.31.14 # i'll mail you a patch anyway 14.31.50 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 14.35.32 # LinusN: sent 14.36.18 # Bagder: received 14.36.52 # * Snorlax has found the /me funktion 14.36.59 # woohooo ;-) 14.37.56 # * Bagder is lost in snmp code :-( 14.38.17 # * Snorlax likes the /me funktion 14.38.38 # * LinusN too 14.38.39 # we all do ;-) 14.38.55 # * Bagder likes nothing atm 14.39.39 # * Snorlax is soon gonna get a panic-attact because of all the purple color from when he discovered the /me funktion 14.39.58 # you need to learn how to reconfigure your colours ;-) 14.40.14 # lol 14.40.17 Part bobTHC 14.40.45 # Bagder: seems to work ok 14.41.08 # Linus how's it goin' with the distortion issue? 14.41.12 # thanks to the limit on dir sizes it won't be too slow either ;-) 14.41.18 # Snorlax: it should be solved 14.41.28 # ahum 14.41.28 DBUG Enqueued KICK edx 14.41.28 # * edx sends a little 4RED6 to Snorlax 14.42.19 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.42.19 # * Snorlax has found the yellow button 14.42.28 # Snorlax: do you still have distortion (with the latest CVS build)? 14.42.47 # gonna try the LATEST build now 14.43.08 # well, i haven't done anything to it the last couple of days 14.43.56 # thought so.. 14.44.57 # weel, maybe it's fixed.. 14.45.17 # but, linus, u got the 1 hour charger?! 14.46.36 # yes, a GP Smart... 14.48.43 # me too.. 14.49.05 # I have to first plug in the charger and then plug in the batteries one at a time 14.49.09 # u? 14.49.31 # i insert all batteries and then plug in the cord 14.49.39 # Things are happening to wps screen. Good that some people check in things I don't dare ;-) 14.49.47 # all LED's go red as soon as i insert the cord 14.50.31 # ok, mine doesn't 14.51.01 # strange 14.51.07 # jupp 14.51.15 # * matsl leaving office, going home ... 14.51.23 # cu sone 14.51.28 # soon 14.51.37 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 14.52.07 # Bagder: the bitrate/song length problem is probably because we don't handle MPEG2.5 14.52.18 # aha 14.52.24 # I tried encoding a song 32kbit/11kHz and it became MPEG2.5 14.52.48 # so that fell through some default in the switch()es then? 14.52.52 # yes 14.53.15 # cool... or something ;-) 14.53.26 # or, umm, it doesn't accept the frame header and looks for another. 14.53.40 # * Snorlax just came home from school, don't you work? 14.53.54 # this is my job :-) 14.53.57 # nah, we're *at* work, we don't actually work ;-) 14.54.28 # Bagder: I have a 68 minute 32/11 track (some choir rehearsals of my own). you want a peek at it? (16MB) 14.54.28 # Zagor: I take it it easily repeatable in the sim? 14.54.32 # yes 14.54.37 # Zagor: sure 14.54.46 # where do I put it? 14.54.58 # how do u get money?! 14.54.58 # anywhere, I can curl or scp it 14.55.06 # ok 14.55.19 # Snorlax: we get paid for working you know ;-) 14.55.35 # has anyone implemented the track FF feature for the remote? 14.55.44 # If notI'll give it a go... 14.55.50 # I don't think anyone has 14.55.57 # it's a tad difficult 14.56.06 # since we don't get REPEAT flags from the remote 14.56.07 Join adi|dads [0] (adi_dads@138.89.23.129) 14.56.10 # I know ! 14.56.13 # howdy al... 14.56.15 # all 14.56.17 # hey ho adi 14.56.28 # notch so how do you plan to do it? 14.56.32 # * Snorlax has to work to get money 14.56.38 # I'll look a trying to find the 'cleanest' implementation :-) 14.56.40 # i just read over the 'play selected song when weshuffle' patch... 14.56.43 # question about it... 14.56.50 # shoot 14.57.06 # why do we shuffle, then search to play the song? 14.57.22 # notch: how would you do it, when you don't know when the key is released? 14.57.30 # adi|dads: how else would we do it? 14.57.34 # couldn't we store the data related to the song in memory, (ie remove it from the list) 14.57.46 # shuffle 1 - N and put the current on index 0 is an option 14.57.53 # then shuffle the list, putting the new sort in all but the first locaton in the array 14.57.59 # nod 14.58.02 # * Zagor goes to fetch lunch 14.58.23 # seems to be senseless to do a search through possible N indexs 14.58.26 # to find the song 14.58.42 # searching 400 indices isn't much work 14.58.58 # it was the quickest solution 14.59.08 # still searching 0 indices is faster... :-) 14.59.14 # as my commit comment mentions, we may need to do the slightly more involved one anyway 14.59.20 # nods 14.59.24 # i was just curious 14.59.29 # I just didn't want to touch the shuffle code 14.59.33 # now.. id have code for you if i wasn't at my fathers ;) 14.59.39 # * adi|dads nods 14.59.48 # it gets the job done now.. we can adapt and overcome later 14.59.57 # that's what i thought too 15.00.01 # nods 15.00.29 # okay... ill be back later... 15.00.31 # * adi|dads waves 15.00.32 Quit adi|dads (Client Quit) 15.00.40 # Zagor : if the button is down, then we should be getting serial data... but i'm not sure how fast the 'normal' remote spits data... 15.00.54 # I like the review opportunities the commit-mails enable 15.02.18 # anyone got an archos remote and a scope handy? 15.02.40 # scope, but no remote 15.05.09 # notch: it spits rather slowly. 3-4 HZ maybe 15.05.22 # Oh bugger... 15.05.42 # so it's rather inditinguishable from the normal keys 15.06.03 # does the stock firmware support it? 15.06.43 # I doubt it 15.07.19 # how silly 15.08.12 # I read a post on the very first mailing list that said if the data came in at >200ms, you could get the FF function 15.08.40 # But I think they must have been mistaken as I could not get this to happen... 15.08.52 # <200ms! 15.10.27 # such a crappy device 15.10.41 # Did anyone get to the F2 switch for random mode request? 15.11.03 # nope, still left to do 15.11.27 # I have a better idea for F keys 15.12.04 # Holding down F3 gets you to a "display settings screen", where left, down, right sets scrollbar, status, meny help etc. 15.12.15 # Holding F2 you get to set repeat, shuffle etc. 15.13.02 # sounds good! 15.13.02 # i.e combined keys, with a "help screen" 15.13.11 # k00l 15.13.13 # hey, that souns good 15.13.16 # sounds 15.13.41 Join Blaster_Master [0] (~noone@firewall.scribona.com) 15.15.07 # where's the code :-)) 15.15.28 # coming up... :-) 15.15.42 # someone should look at setting id3.elapsed correctly after resume 15.20.47 # * notch notices a pin dropping 15.21.21 # hehe 15.27.15 # this link describes how to mod the LEDīs on the jukebox 'http://www.mctubster.com/index.html' 15.27.26 # amongst outher things 15.27.38 # yes 15.34.15 Join dfg [0] (~prv@209.166.235.91) 15.35.12 # Blaste_Master why u post those links? 15.41.28 # hello 15.41.51 # Bagder, the mp3s also in different frequences or only 22000kHZ? 15.42.29 # Hmm, just got stuck in pause mode. wouldn't unpause. 15.42.47 # edx: some different freqs would be good too 15.42.50 # ok 15.42.55 # had to turn off and resume to get it to play again :) 15.42.57 # ill prepare a set and tell you when im done 15.43.04 # yay for Bagder 15.43.31 # :-) 15.44.23 # yay for edx 15.44.31 # Cool stuff in the cvs today 15.45.53 # * Bagder types like crap 15.46.36 # * dwihno drinks tea 15.52.33 Quit Snorlax () 15.54.13 # time to go home. cu guys! 15.54.18 # How does the resume thing work btw? 15.54.18 # bye LinusN 15.54.22 # bye Linus 15.54.25 Part LinusN 15.54.26 # bye! 15.55.21 # * Bagder adds mpeg 2.5 support 15.56.01 # Hey, what about og? ^_^ 15.56.09 # dwihno: resume works by storing the playlist file, index, seed and offset into the file currently being played 15.56.26 # Zagor: ah, only on player though? 15.56.32 # nope, both 15.56.35 # :O 15.56.57 # dwihno: *GO TRY IT* =) 15.58.02 # Hmm :) 15.58.15 # Does this have anything to do with the HD error posts on the mailing list? ;) 15.58.56 # do I sense a chicken here? B-P 15.59.09 # hehe 15.59.20 # dwihno: aren't you the guy who tested before any of us did? gone chicken, have you? :) 16.00.09 # Zagor: always two, there are :) 16.00.18 # one Zagor, and one Bagder! 16.00.25 # lol 16.00.37 # we're actually the same person 16.00.45 # I am the bot Zagor wrote 16.00.58 # Then I'm santa claus 16.02.35 # * edx does not believe bagder! 16.02.40 # I want a bike, new car and a cat :-) 16.02.42 # prove that Zagor is not the bot you wrote! 16.03.13 # edx: he hasn't crashed during the whole day! Is that proof enough? ;-) 16.03.26 # hehe 16.03.39 # Bagder: you have 16.03.40 # ? 16.03.49 # * edx checks the logs 16.03.50 # exactly the point 16.03.51 # lol 16.05.28 # Zagor: 68:04 16.05.35 # that's what it says now 16.05.41 # nice! 16.05.46 # 32kbit, 11025Hz 16.05.53 # excellent 16.08.55 # woohoo. elpsed done for CBR. 16.09.03 # VBR is a bit more tricky :-) 16.09.24 # Zagor: can we copy that mpeg html and put it on the rockbox site? 16.09.37 # it allows it and feels like a better place to point to 16.10.02 # sure 16.10.08 # Hmm, unpause is definitely broken 16.10.28 # Zagor: ok, I add it to the www/docs/ dir then? 16.10.35 # Bagder: sounds good 16.10.43 # matp: fixed again today 16.12.14 # added 16.13.28 # Bagder: if you feel bored, this could be a fun feature: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.6.2.tar.gz 16.13.34 # no, http://ff123.net/identify.html 16.13.39 # (damn clipboard) 16.14.11 # I'm not that bored yet ;-) 16.14.13 # hehe 16.15.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.16.28 # Bagder: when you check in the new id3.c, trim the comment for getsonglength. it, well, lies :-) 16.16.40 # Zagor: but Benoit's problem does not seem to be MPEG 2.5 judging from this freqs 16.16.41 # Zagor: I did 16.17.21 # s/this/his 16.18.15 # but are those the numbers he knows are true, or what rockbox reports? 16.18.28 # ah 16.18.31 # that's a good point 16.18.40 # I'll post a q 16.23.31 # "I got 8 hours and 15 minutes of time out of the batteries whilst using the RockBox 1.2 firmawre as opposed to 10 hours and 30 minutes with the Archos firmware (1.26)." 16.23.56 # (from the yahoo forum) 16.24.56 # "I would say that the Rockbox latest daily build keeps my JBS20 hotter than 16.24.56 # the stock firmware." 16.25.00 # weirdos 16.25.49 # that forum is more about gossip than anything else. "I think", "I heard", "maybe this" etc. 16.26.07 # indeed 16.26.17 # and of course, nobody ever reports the bugs they find. they just bitch about it on their list 16.27.59 Quit Blaster_Master () 16.29.05 # I would post a mail about it, but nobody ever remembers the contents of any one email more than 10 minutes 16.29.17 # * Zagor is in his cynical mood 16.30.00 # at least we don't have to care 16.30.17 Join zaknafein [0] (zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.32.55 # zaknafein: just post your ideas here, in the open. We won't bite ;-) 16.33.05 # thx Bagder 16.33.31 # well, zagor might bite but he's friendly on the inside ;-P 16.33.39 # lol 16.33.57 # thats just because Zagor is the only one in here who's not a bot 16.34.05 # hehehe 16.34.16 # well.. yesterday i had to change my batteries, and when i re-started my jukebox, ups... the time had gone away.. Could it be possible to include an option to set the correct time ? 16.34.32 # zaknafein: there is already. settings->time 16.35.07 # really? 16.35.19 # ok.. thx 16.35.20 # :) 16.35.23 # was that in 1.2 or added afterwards? 16.35.31 # yes. I don't remember if it got into 1.2, but it's definitely there now. 16.35.34 # i think it was added later 16.35.41 # i have 1.2 16.35.47 # ok 16.35.54 # try a newer daily build then 16.36.01 # or wait for 1.3 16.36.03 # it is a bit hard to remember what got added when 16.36.07 # that's what i'm doing now 16.36.13 # another thing... 16.36.26 # is there a queue or something like that? 16.36.42 # not yet. playlists or dir play only 16.37.46 # autobuild playlist hasn't been added yet, no? 16.37.58 # nope. it's coming after 1.3. 16.38.13 # hehe, Benoit tried the URL in the source comment... 16.38.51 # it should work in 20 minutes ;-) 16.38.56 # hehe 16.38.57 # bagder: 20kbit/s is the lowest i can get :( 16.39.59 # edx: not 16? weird, it'll be useful anyway 16.41.47 # ok 16.42.02 # that is just the program i am using but i dont have anything different 16.42.07 # try lame 16.42.21 # edx: there's some lost Windows dude on the list you could point to some good windows docs ;-) 16.46.57 # Zagor: I modded head.t now to use the proper faq link 16.47.41 # ok, good 16.50.06 # Bagder: who are you talking about :) 16.50.18 # edx: jeansebastien.tauth@mpsa.com 16.50.59 # * edx reads his mail 16.54.05 # Zagor: when I convert the FAQ into better html, you have any favourite css class to use for the questions? 16.54.17 # nope 16.54.26 # ok, I'll invent one 16.54.29 # yup 16.55.13 # * edx replied 16.55.25 # thanks 16.55.51 # * edx should update the sh-win page a little (the makefile stuff) 16.57.22 # should I add stuff to the faq? 16.57.27 Join Miran [0] (~dani@collcott.demon.co.uk) 16.57.28 # to enable links to specific Qs? 16.57.50 # Zagor: class name is now 'faqq' 16.58.00 Join RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 16.58.03 # for the q 16.58.04 # ok 16.58.23 # Bagder: sure, add it. could be useful. 16.58.46 # is the or does it matter at all? 16.59.27 # it doesn't matter. you don't even need an end for name anchors, AFAIK 16.59.43 # I'll add a anyway for the looks 17.02.02 # Zagor: try a manual update of the web now, the faq should get nicer 17.03.00 # nice. did you make a class for the answers aswell? 17.03.08 # yes, 'faqa' 17.03.18 # ok 17.06.03 # it struck me that we could generate an index at the top too in case we ever feel the need 17.06.16 # good idea 17.07.09 # anyone have a good reference for the XING vbr header? I can't find a good one. 17.07.45 # i.e the TOC has 100 entries. is that percent 0-99 or 1-100? (and why 100 instead of 99??) 17.08.07 # both 0 and 100 are pretty pointless 17.08.44 # anyone got dosfsck to work? 17.09.34 # I've used it 17.10.00 # Mine is just sitting there apparantly doing nothing. 17.10.37 # Zagor: http://docs.real.com/docs/xingtech/vbrheadersdk.zip 17.11.15 # Bagder: I don't call that good :-) 17.11.27 # no 17.19.15 # hmm, looks like hardeep cheated a bit in the search algorithm :-) 17.20.20 # I ahve 20 and 32 kbits.. would you prefer 40 or rather 24 now? (or even something yet different?) 17.26.28 Quit Miran ("Its not that you do not see, it is mearly that your eyes do not perceive") 17.28.28 # http://storebror.haxx.se/rockbox/docs/faq.html 17.28.36 # it doesn't look that good 17.28.50 # no 17.28.59 # that's why I asked bout faqa 17.29.13 # well I mean the toc above 17.29.42 # oh 17.29.49 # looked at the wrong faq :) 17.29.54 # hehe 17.30.11 # that should be a list 17.30.27 # with 34 Qs we do need an index 17.31.07 # no, not when it looks this ugly ;-) 17.31.20 # Bagder: i got 20 and 32 kbits - what next? 17.31.45 # edx: I don't know that off hand 17.31.55 # basicly everything will be useful 17.32.00 # ok 17.32.38 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 17.32.55 # using faqa and faqq it should be possible to at least make it look decent 17.32.55 # RE FAQ. We dont need Question 30 17.33.08 # true 17.33.18 # outdated now 17.34.45 # A13 is not a url 17.35.04 # uh 17.35.36 # stupid script ;-) 17.35.51 # :) 17.36.06 # A31. I thought we have a version of rolo ? 17.36.43 # * edx is getting crazy 17.36.59 # * edx has a biiiiiiiiiiig problem :( 17.38.16 # i wrote a proxy server that works with mirc generally, but not for ONE server 17.38.35 # *off topic* 17.38.42 # anyways.. had to say that 17.39.20 # muh 17.39.25 # :-) 17.39.33 # * Bagder uses muh and is happy 17.39.43 # MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! 17.39.48 # * edx feels better 17.40.52 # matp: mail those remarks to adi or the list 17.41.11 # yuk. just done a clean build and i reverted to fixed width fonts 17.41.12 # adi is the faq maintainer 17.41.17 # sure 17.41.32 # I want prop fonts as default 17.41.38 # they will be 17.41.51 # how do i get them. they used to be in the configure script 17.41.56 # they still are 17.42.04 # they are if you compile on windows :P (if it is just that one define) 17.42.39 # ok, i answered yes to loadable by mistake 17.50.08 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.50.21 # ok, now the links should become better on that faq page 17.51.08 # once the site updates 17.51.31 # I'm running home 17.51.33 Part Bagder 17.53.10 # Scroll-speed indicator does not work with prop fonts :) 18.00.55 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.01.53 Quit pyvasene ("[x]chat") 18.02.15 Part zaknafein 18.05.43 # zzzzzzzz....... 18.06.50 # bye all! 18.06.52 Part bobTHC 18.12.34 # EXIT 18.12.35 # * notch injects diet coke directly into his veins... 18.12.40 Quit schuepf ("Client Exiting") 18.13.02 # ahhh what a rush.... 18.13.05 Quit notch () 18.15.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.21.31 Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 18.21.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno|gone 18.24.04 # *yawn* 18.34.42 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 18.36.19 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 18.42.22 # Bagder: I think the random is better suited to play the selected song as #1 in the playlist position. My opinion only ;) 18.42.39 # I know 18.42.52 # my reasons for using this solutions still apply though ;-) 18.43.11 # Bagder: what were your reasons? 18.43.29 # I came to think of another solution 18.43.39 # I could just swap the found index with index 0 and play from there 18.44.00 # that would be an easy solution 18.44.16 # yeah 18.44.25 # I'll look into this once again right now 18.44.25 # oh my god, 44 new messages overnight in rockbox 18.44.39 # its booming all right 18.45.18 # Hmm... I think I'd better get ready for my flight and check my e-mail at the airport or something :) 18.47.29 # ah 18.47.34 # this doesn't work with resume 18.48.04 # Bagder: I have 9 converted mp3 files now 18.48.05 # or... 18.48.11 # edx: cool! 18.48.25 # can I download them from you? 18.48.32 # yea wait 18.48.42 # sure, no hutty 18.48.44 # hurry 18.49.19 # http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/Talla 2xlc - Live at Kinki Palace-12-25-2001[20kbits, 11025kHZ].mp3 18.49.37 # hmmm wait 18.49.42 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.49.42 # * Bagder waits 18.50.10 # ill better put them in an empty dir and just give you the address of the dir so you can see the names for your slef (plus you already have the links) 18.50.37 # yes, it makes it easier for me 18.50.46 # and for me 18.50.48 # * edx is selfish :) 18.51.20 # * edx only has 16 kb/sec upstream - will take a while :( 18.51.35 # ah, right 18.51.57 # but i guess you got enough time (at least your connection :P) 18.52.07 # sure 18.52.14 # *copying* 18.52.24 # damn.. only got 10mbit lan at the moment 18.53.05 # hm, getting all-dir to play the whole dir only once when repeat is off is tricky 18.53.11 # ... when resumed 18.53.46 # http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs/ 18.54.22 # * edx notices his makefiles for the win32 simulator dont wokr any more 18.55.27 # http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs/ 18.55.27 # * edx notices his makefiles for the win32 simul 18.55.30 # doH! 18.55.37 # *copy&paste bug* 18.55.44 # bagder - in that dir are the mp3s 18.55.49 # I see them 18.55.56 # hmm, interesting resume when I updated my playlist 18.57.10 # hehe, it doesn't check that the list is identical... 18.57.49 # yeah. could we check the timestamps or something 18.58.34 # something should be done, I agree 18.59.22 Quit MeRWiN () 18.59.31 # i mean, it's not a big deal. most people (including me) are grateful that it works at all 18.59.39 # but i like perfection :) 18.59.57 # hehe 19.01.31 # well, guys. gotta go home. good work. bye 19.01.50 # bye matp 19.08.33 Quit Synthe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.08.44 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 19.16.26 Join aakil [0] (~anon@adsl-63-195-51-251.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 19.17.43 # edx: woo, one file down ;-) 19.19.13 # woo :) 19.20.07 # edx: you tried these in rockbox yet? :-) 19.20.49 # no 19.21.14 # if they dont work you got something to debug :P 19.22.01 # yeps 19.29.14 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html 19.29.16 # updated 19.29.31 Topic "design us a t-shirt!" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 19.31.04 Join xam [0] (~chatzilla@143.239.201.88) 19.32.30 # hi, I tried to download the linux kernel patch to unlock the harddrive, but the link doesn't work ... where can I get it? 19.33.34 # lemme check 19.34.11 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-03/att-0010/01-isd200.diff 19.35.03 # thanks alot! (that was quick!) 19.35.17 # I knew where to look ;-) 19.35.46 # still waiting for my recorder20 to arrive ... 19.37.20 # ... and unlock your hd in the mean time? ;-) 19.38.53 # hehe ;) not, I just wan't to get all the files BEFORE I get the recorder - I just so excited 19.39.20 # I have to recompile the kernel anyway ... 19.39.25 # tjat unlock patch won't do any good for the recorder 19.39.32 # it is for the isd200 driver 19.39.39 # the recorder uses an isd300 19.39.45 # which is slightly different 19.40.23 # argll, are there any locked harddrives in the recorder20 series? 19.40.37 # not that I know of 19.40.45 # phew 19.40.48 # and really, it has been a long time since there was one on the player too 19.45.35 # I'm looking forward to try out rockbox ... afaik one of the most 'annoying' things about the archos is the playlist. Is this true? 19.47.29 Quit Low[a] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.18 # yes it is 19.48.25 # it isn't only annoying 19.48.31 # it is bloody STUPID 19.49.28 # it can only have 999 songs in a playlist 19.49.37 # WHAT ??? 19.49.38 # and it loads playlists slooooooow 19.49.51 # jesus ... 19.49.54 # like my 150 song list took 5-7 seconds to load 19.50.29 # rockbox loads maximum 10000 songs in a playlist, with the speed of approx 1000 songs/sec 19.51.18 # to put it short: I never use the stock firmware ;-) 19.53.12 # well, I have to see. I haven't got the archos yet ... 19.54.22 # well, the games are a nice idea ;) 19.56.03 # yeah, I like them 20.07.42 # Hes: you around? 20.08.40 # He's dead, Jim 20.10.16 Quit dfg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.10.40 Join dfg [0] (~prv@209.166.235.91) 20.15.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.25.33 Quit Snorlax () 20.43.08 Quit aakil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.45.59 # Zagor|away: please don't be away ;D 20.51.43 # time to go and eat pie 20.51.47 Part Bagder 20.52.15 # PIE?! 20.52.17 # PIE PIE PIE 21.21.46 Quit Synthe ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 21.35.48 Quit dfg ("Client Exiting") 21.35.48 Quit webmind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.41.14 Join wettoad [0] (~wettoad@uludag.mbi-berlin.de) 21.41.17 Quit wettoad (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.49.27 Quit edx ("n8") 21.49.54 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@80.141.149.2) 21.50.10 # hija 21.51.03 Join aakil [0] (~anon@adsl-63-195-51-251.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 21.51.11 # i want sort by DATE ! :) 21.52.21 # and i want to see, how much space i used :) 21.52.28 # to pose with my 40gb drive :) 21.55.25 # all on idle here ? 22.16.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.48.40 Join TotMach3r [0] (tot@p508D96AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.57.33 Quit aakil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.06.50 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.16.48 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-35-9-147.bct.bellsouth.net) 23.17.57 Join aakil [0] (~anon@adsl-63-195-51-251.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 23.20.36 # hey aakil 23.29.04 # hey 23.48.50 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.57.05 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-35-9-147.bct.bellsouth.net) 23.58.46 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net)