--- Log for 22.08.102 Server: herbert.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 9 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.14 # since then when we do add a better way, the code will adjust more smoothly 00.00.22 # a stat should rather use the info from the fat 00.00.42 # a proper stat, yes :) 00.02.29 # "Well Itried out the daily build from the 19th and got 8 hours and 16 minutes of playtime so much the same as before." 00.02.49 # yahoo-message 00.03.00 # yup 00.03.48 # which charger used? 00.04.48 # no clue given there 00.11.18 # I have fortune almost implemented 00.11.29 # need to do some fine tuning in the text display still 00.13.26 # Having hard time without a .profile to put my fortune command in. 00.13.49 # hehe 00.14.44 # Filtered a set of 7799 cookies short enough to be displayed on the recorder's screen, making a 500k file 00.15.08 # hehe 00.17.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.18.27 # I have to make my contribution to the useless crap section 8-) 00.19.34 # yes, we need to keep the speed up in that area 00.19.48 # people might think we're going soft ;-) 00.22.44 Join noalavida [0] (MASTest@95-MAD2-X9.libre.retevision.es) 00.23.17 # ¡hola! :) 00.30.02 # 'try again' was the first cookie I got when trying it out with the real stuff 8-) 00.30.25 # ¡hola! 00.30.38 # Hes: hehe 00.33.21 Quit noalavida () 00.34.28 # Hes: you should note in battery-faq Q2 that the logic described only concerns recorders 00.37.13 # "The charger logic on the Recorders lets the batteries.." should do it? 00.37.28 # Bedtime 00.37.36 # night 01.00.35 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 01.04.02 Part Bagder 01.08.32 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@AMontsouris-108-1-17-230.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.08.37 # helllo !! 01.16.14 Quit PiotR (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 NSplit herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 01.16.14 Quit mbr|gone (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit Tumm- (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit adi|work (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit matp (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit Hadaka (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit PsycoXul (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit adi|dads (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit Lowfiler (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit dwihno|gone (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.14 Quit datazone (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.15 Quit fraggle (herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01.16.31 NHeal herbert.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 01.16.31 NJoin PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 01.16.31 NJoin mbr|gone [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 01.16.31 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-9.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 01.16.31 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@graywolf.onnanifujiyuu.org) 01.16.31 NJoin matp [0] (~mpritch@gateway.riversoft.com) 01.16.31 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@pool-151-204-138-24.ny325.east.verizon.net) 01.16.31 NJoin Tumm- [0] (coyote@mysko.net) 01.16.32 NJoin adi|dads [0] (adi_dads@pool-138-89-186-221.mad.east.verizon.net) 01.16.32 NJoin Lowfiler [0] (H@p5085F31A.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.16.32 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 01.16.32 NJoin datazone [0] ([4FrzzWPOo@207.136.36.203) 01.16.32 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 01.17.22 Join MeRWiN [0] (merwin@1Cust75.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 01.17.33 # yoYOYO 01.20.47 # :) 01.24.54 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.24.54 # * MeRWiN wants to code something but doesn't know what 01.25.12 # fill in the text reader 01.25.28 # haven't heard of this so-called text reader, what is it? 01.25.39 # it's a text viewer for the player 01.25.50 # showtext.c i think 01.25.51 # in apps 01.26.00 # does it work? 01.26.12 # not yet 01.26.39 # Who created it? 01.26.43 # bagder started it and then it's been sitting there for a while 01.27.37 # i can't even tell whats missing from it... 01.27.57 # I can't even read it :) 01.28.00 # but when i tried to add calls to it into the dir browser code it didn't work 01.28.20 # I find it hard to read other people's code most of the time 01.28.31 # yeah 01.28.39 # i can't read that particular piece of code too well either 01.28.44 # do you use the recorder or the player? 01.28.50 # player 01.29.21 # what do you think of the current wps options? I'm trying to decide whether or not it's a good idea to pursue getting rid of the 2 line id3 display, when the 1 line id3 display does more than enough 01.29.58 # i like the 1-line display except that the artist gets in the way 01.30.04 # ? 01.30.26 # and it'd be nice if just the id3 info scrolled and not the track #/## display, but i guess thats a limitation of the current scroll code 01.31.04 # well, i suppose it could be done, but if you had more than 100 tracks, it could take up 7 out of the 11 available characters 01.31.24 # thats true... 01.31.49 # how useful do you think the 2 line display is? 01.32.16 # i stopped using it as soon as the 1-line display got put in 01.32.27 # 1 line display is already put in 01.32.47 # that whole sentence was past-tense wasn't it? heh 01.33.05 # "stopped" "got" ... 01.33.06 # heh 01.33.12 # oh, sorry... i misread it 01.33.13 # :) 01.33.24 # I thought you said you would stop using it when it got put in 01.34.02 # personally what i'd like best 01.34.11 # is to configure exactly what is on each line and where 01.34.32 # That could be accomplished 01.34.52 # in fact, I may just do that... it would be pretty easy 01.35.16 # yeah it could replace all the wps display modes with just a single configurable one... 01.35.33 # well, it would have to be an editable file that would be loaded... 01.35.39 # too hard to edit it in the player :) 01.36.41 # i was thinking like you config 1 line at a time, and use the up/down keys to switch the "value" [artist,filename,trackname,etc] of the current "field" [possition on line] and -/+ to move between fields 01.36.45 # kinda thing... 01.37.48 # I was thinking something like %e/%d: %a - %t 01.37.50 # something like that 01.38.06 # then the value's could be like $A or some short symbols like that and then the 2nd line in the display would show what the symbol meant 01.38.10 # MeRWiN: yeah thats probably better 01.38.27 # i didn't think about putting extra chars in there 01.38.43 # and start a line with %s to scroll it or something 01.38.54 # yeah 01.39.25 # and then if we get sub-line scrolling we can have like "%e/%d: %s%a - %t" if we wanted... 01.39.38 # yeah 01.41.50 # and if you wanted to get real fancy you could have some sorta conditional statements so that if %d>99 then use "%s%e/%d: %a - %t" else "%e/%d: %s%a - %t" :p 01.42.20 # by the way would it be possible to have a one-pixel scrolling ? 01.42.23 # I'll stick to the easy one to begin with :-) 01.42.41 # BoD[]: on the recorder i would think so 01.42.53 # yes that would be great ! 01.43.02 # BoD[]: on the player it'd be very difficult, limited, and ugly... basically no... heh 01.43.17 # yeah I can imagine that :) 01.43.25 # but i have a recorder :) 01.43.31 # well good for you :p 01.43.37 # the look is important ! 01.44.09 # see for example they did it for winamp3 ! the scrolling is not good looking on winamp2 but with the 3 it's... smooth :) 01.44.32 # yeah i'd like smooth scrolling too 01.44.56 # yes :) 01.45.03 # maybe that would be too slow, though 01.45.18 # its too bad i've got a device that cost like ~$200 and have seen $15 toys with better LCD's :p 01.45.46 # yup :( 01.46.07 # but at least the $15 thing can't play mp3 ;) 01.46.22 # hehe 01.46.46 # PsycoXul: if we could rewrite the firmware they damn well would :) 01.46.59 # :p 01.47.35 # i have to go to bed now .. see you ! bye 01.47.39 # night 01.47.42 Quit BoD[] ("al lala") 01.48.18 # MeRWiN: btw there's no reason we can't actualy do text input on players ok 01.48.34 # MeRWiN: i mean you could enter your name on a nintendo game with a direction pad and 2 buttons right? 01.50.30 # yeah 01.50.32 # true 01.50.41 # what does the read() function return? 01.51.03 # could even have different layouts to make it easier for people... someone not familiar with anything can have it alphabetical like the nes did, normal people can have a mangled-qwerty kinda layout, and smart people can use a mangled dvorak-style layout (which makes the most sense for these kinda things :p) 01.51.24 # don't ask me, i haven't used it yet ... heh 01.51.29 # look at the code 01.51.41 # *grin* 01.55.26 # holy shit. mozilla actualy finished building without errors 01.55.32 # * PsycoXul is in shock 01.57.12 # wow 01.57.14 # nicE :) 01.58.23 # yeah 01.58.37 # i enabled some thing that i guess doesn't generaly get enabled or that i didn't pass some necessary option for 01.58.50 # and it couldn't find a header that it had cause of it's include search path's and was erroring on it 01.59.12 # took me forever to make it have the header some place it looked for it, and i was sure that fixing just that would cause more errors later... but it didn't heh 01.59.32 # :P 01.59.48 # even made myself a little tarball package so it's easy to install 02.01.44 # last time i built mozilla i couldn't figure out how to make a clean install from what it built... there seems to be better instructions now for that sorta thing 02.01.49 # :) 02.02.03 # any clue how to print the VB equivalient of asc("d") 02.02.14 # in c 02.02.28 # i dunno anything about VB 02.02.38 # whats that do? heh 02.02.44 # basically, i want the ascii equivalent of a letter 02.03.02 # ah 02.04.03 # well hmm wouldn't you just use 'd'? heh 02.04.17 # shouldn't the numeric value of 'd' be that? 02.04.41 # i dunno sorry 02.07.46 # whoops, I was using "d" 02.07.48 # not 'd' 02.12.38 # so lets see if this new mozilla works 02.13.58 # i'm getting closer to this working 02.14.38 # already got the text parsing working... just need the conditional statements and string building 02.17.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.18.03 # heh 02.18.12 # nice 02.18.19 # this shit is easy :) 02.19.09 # Hmmm... I think to start, I'll have the first line just be the scrolling text and the 2nd line always be the time display 02.19.24 # sounds fine for now 02.19.49 # but my mozilla's not running :/ 02.20.29 # ouch 02.20.45 # heh 02.20.56 # > mozilla 02.20.56 # /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgkgfx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 02.21.02 # > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla 02.21.11 # > mozilla 02.21.11 # ÚÄ[psyco@psyco] ~) 02.21.11 # ÀÄ$Ä> 02.21.13 # heh 02.21.28 # it doesn't even start up or no error or nothing now :/ 02.21.34 # hmm 02.21.54 # how do you do a case else in c? 02.22.14 # huh? 02.22.21 # i don't know of any else in cases... 02.22.30 # the default case if none of the other cases match it 02.22.37 # ah 02.22.44 # um.. i know this but i forget :p 02.23.30 # apparently it accepts default: 02.23.39 # yeah i think thats it 02.25.02 # yeah 02.27.06 # ok 02.27.26 # so mozilla works... 02.27.36 # it just didn't like me trying to mangle it's install path's 02.28.01 # all i want is it's bins to be in a standard bin dir while the rest is in /usr/lib/mozilla :/ 02.28.13 # but NOoooo it's GOTTA have its bins run from the same dir as the rest of it 02.29.25 Quit adi|dads () 02.32.16 # oh my god, it works 02.32.18 # :) 02.33.05 # nice 02.34.48 # gahhh... 02.34.51 # mozilla's fullscreen sucks 02.35.21 # it switches to my normal desktop resolution 02.35.27 # when i've got it zoomed on mozilla 02.36.03 # which i want to stay at 1024x768 cause everything's unreadable on my small screen with it bigger heh 02.40.08 # ack 02.40.12 # that sucks 02.41.15 # yeah my window manager has this nice feature 02.41.42 # where you hit alt-enter on any window on your desktop, and it switches to the best resolution to fit it and fullscreens it 02.41.55 # wow... i REALLY like that 02.41.59 # I wish windows had that 02.42.32 # but when i've done that to mozilla and then do mozilla's fullscreen mozilla undoes it and goes back to my normal res 02.42.51 # i say you edit the code of moozilla 02.43.08 # heh 02.43.21 # i don't wanna recompile all that again untill somebody qualified fixes it :p 02.43.34 # i'll just whine at this guy i know who's a build engineer at netscape heh 02.43.44 # good idea 02.44.18 # and untill then, well i've lived without mozilla's silly little fullscreen this long :p 02.45.29 # but yeah that alt-enter thing is almost necessary when running 1280x1024 on a 15" :p 02.45.55 # yeah 02.48.35 # easy solution... 17" monitor 02.49.25 # i just wish E had more good themes... 02.50.23 # they're all either boring or unweildly, and most of them too light and too blue heh 03.13.02 # yay, did it 03.34.24 # heh 03.34.50 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) 03.50.46 # I think this one is commitable 03.51.09 # what is it? 03.51.36 # Custom WPS display for the player. It uses something like %i/%l: %c * %sKB to display the first line of the WPS, and the 2nd line is the time 03.51.45 # in a file called wps.custom 03.52.31 # is it configurable on the player? 03.52.34 # ahh.... 03.52.40 # that sounds like a great idea. 03.52.48 # It's implemented :) 03.52.55 # what tags/ parts of the filename are supported? 03.53.10 # Every tag and part of the filename, filesize, bitrates, etc 03.53.39 # This will get rid of all of the fighting over WPS settings :) 03.54.27 # heh 03.54.50 # so it reads the config from a file? 03.55.06 # it would be great if it was configurable on the player. That would kepp the box a rockin' 03.55.16 # hmm.. our file open routine seems to open "wps.configs" when I tell it to open "wps.config" (to test when the file doesn't exist) 03.55.36 # hmm 03.56.31 # there is also a problem with menus now. grr... somebody screwed it up :) (not my patch!) 03.56.37 # PsycoXul: do you have the latest cvs on your player? 03.56.39 # heh 03.59.02 # i do now 03.59.17 # PsycoXul: go to the menu and scroll down... is it screwed up? 03.59.39 # Inforal Se 03.59.40 # :p 03.59.45 # ok, not just me :-) 04.00.27 # ok 04.00.49 # and the skip behaviour's also weird when you skip while paused 04.00.56 # that's a new feature :) 04.01.07 # heh 04.01.14 # well it works like it should normally 04.01.24 # it skips to the beginning of the track if it's not within the 1st 3 seconds 04.01.32 # yup 04.01.35 # but when paused 04.01.39 # it skips to the previous track still 04.01.47 # That is correct, no? 04.01.51 # and it keeps the paused symbol there but the time counts up 04.01.55 # oooh 04.02.06 # no skip behaviour while paused should be the same as while playing 04.02.29 # i like to pause a track that's already played past the first 3 seconds, hit back and then unpause when i'm ready to listen to that same track from the beginning 04.02.42 # true 04.02.50 # it should be consistent heh 04.03.01 # but as the time's counting on the other thing 04.03.10 # i can't hear if it's playing or not, i need to go get my headphones :p 04.04.18 # ok it does keep playing 04.04.25 # this time i think it stayed on the same track though 04.04.31 # bit it started playing while keeping the pause symbol 04.05.38 # yeat it's staying within track now.. i dunno why it went back a track the last time... 04.05.43 # or the first time rather.. 04.05.44 # heh 04.06.21 # but it still starts playing and keeping the pause symbol then you have to press play and it gets the play symbol, then play again pauses it finaly heh 04.07.53 # whoops 04.17.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.19.14 # elinenbe: you there? 04.21.21 # I think i'm going to commit this (and the doc on the tags) 04.26.22 # PsycoXul: synch your apps and docs folder 04.26.32 # PsycoXul: I added it 04.33.59 Join adi|dads [0] (adi_dads@pool-138-89-186-221.mad.east.verizon.net) 04.34.05 # heya adi 04.34.07 # howdy 04.34.11 # how goes it? 04.35.14 # good, check out the newest CVS addition (not posted on the website yet). Customizable WPS display (loaded from the disk). The docs are in /docs/CUSTOM_WPS_FORMAT 04.35.28 # courtesy of me :P 04.35.29 # nice 04.35.34 # you wrote the docs? 04.35.36 # sweet :) 04.35.36 # yup 04.35.43 # glad to see that dir is being used 04.35.45 # It NEEDS docs... it uses tags 04.35.51 # was a pain in the ass to get it going... 04.36.25 # i bet 04.39.06 # besides, I like writing docs 04.39.07 # one thing 04.39.14 # as you add stuff to that dir 04.39.19 # make sure you add the files to FILES 04.39.22 # ahh 04.39.23 # ok 04.39.27 # FILES is what is used to build our packages 04.39.29 # ill fix :) 04.39.35 # OK 04.40.23 # fixed :) 04.40.46 # koo. thanx 04.41.01 # hmmm.. im starting to wonder... 04.41.06 # if we are going to have config files 04.41.19 # if it makes sense to have a 'rockbox' dir on the root of the player/rec 04.41.26 # to store stuff like that 04.42.39 # your doc is wrong 04.42.50 # the example shows 2:23/3:01 04.43.05 # but with no mention of it in the explainaton example string 04.43.19 # excuse me? 04.43.22 # you need to add %e/%o on another line 04.43.32 # %i/%l: %c * %sKB 04.43.34 # is what you have 04.43.38 # no, because it's explained that the time is automatically put on the 2nd line 04.43.38 # %i/%l: %c * %sKB 04.43.40 # it's non-configurable 04.43.48 # ahhh okay :) 04.43.57 # read the description! :-) 04.44.01 # heheh sorry 04.44.12 # np 04.44.13 # :) 04.44.31 # hmmm if elapsed and total time are _always_ displayed.. why are they options? 04.44.51 # I dunno, for future expansion once the 2nd line is customizable 04.44.56 # got ya... 04.44.59 # or for retards that want the time displayed twice 04.45.08 # you may want to add %% also 04.45.17 # so that you can show a percentage sign 04.45.43 # Oh... ture 04.45.44 # true 04.45.51 # ie: we may want %%played 04.45.52 # i thought about that beforehand but didn't put that in 04.46.16 # which in our case would appear as: %layed 04.46.18 # wouldn't it? 04.46.32 # ? 04.46.37 # well... 04.46.42 # %%played would end up as %played 04.46.43 # if you put "%p" 04.46.48 # right.. 04.46.53 # but what does it do _now_? 04.47.00 # does it handle %% now to display %? 04.47.04 # right now it gets the % and discards the 2nd % 04.47.07 # :) 04.47.09 # okay :) 04.47.13 # so it displays nothing for that 04.47.14 # what if you have %%p? 04.47.22 # it would display just p 04.47.24 # at the moment 04.47.26 # nods 04.47.29 # i'm fixing that as we speak 04.47.33 # thats wrong :) 04.47.45 # %%p should display %p 04.47.47 # hehehe just think... %%%p 04.47.48 # lol 04.47.51 # nods right 04.48.01 # %%%p to get % 04.48.17 # yup 04.48.23 # sweet patch though :) 04.48.38 # It was needed 04.49.45 # in snprintf if i do snprintf(tmpbuf, sizeof(tmpbuf), "%"), will it display % ? 04.50.54 # no you need to do %% if i remember correctly 04.51.04 # so if you want to display %% 04.51.07 # you need %%%% 04.51.10 # shit, i forgot to commit wps.h 04.51.29 # spelling: flexable or flexible? 04.51.40 # flexible i think 04.51.43 # k 04.55.50 # It seems silly not to have the second line be customizable too... 04.55.56 Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.00.23 # hehe so fix it then ;) 05.01.35 Join MeRWiN [0] (merwin@1Cust195.tnt20.tpa2.da.uu.net) 05.01.47 # god damn i hate the usb mode. it bluescreens win2k if you do it wrong :) 05.03.06 # lol 05.03.09 # get linuxs ;) 05.03.22 # s/xs/x/ 05.03.38 # it's a work laptop 05.03.41 # closest i can get is vmware 05.04.38 # nods 05.04.45 # you could do the same in reverse 05.04.47 # load linux 05.04.52 # run vmware for win2k in it :) 05.04.59 # so when it crashes, you just kill the process 05.05.03 # buddy at work did it.. 05.05.09 # hmm... the custom_wps_format.html doesn't have proper line breaks in it for a double newline 05.05.17 # he killed that window like 4 times a day when he was wokring on his Palm software :) 05.05.29 # hmm.. one sec 05.05.37 # I can't quite do that, because I'd have to have the IT manager add the computer to the domain 05.05.41 # i don't think he'd be keen on that 05.06.14 # got ya 05.06.47 # hmm.. ill see if i can fix the file 05.06.56 # k 05.09.26 # It seems silly not to have the second line be customizable too... 05.09.45 # yeah... that will come in a bit 05.10.13 # why isn't it there now? 05.10.26 # I am just wondering 05.10.33 # The only problem is that the time display is updated constantly... The line it's on can't scroll, due to it being updated numerous times per second 05.10.47 # which introduces problems to customizing it 05.11.55 # ahhhhh... 05.13.20 # So i figure that leaving only one line being customized is better at this point 05.13.46 # 19 people this year have been run over by NJ trains :P 05.18.40 # gotta jet, be back later 05.18.42 Quit MeRWiN () 05.37.03 Join MeRWiN [0] (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 05.37.19 # okay... i hacked a new .pl to handle plain text 05.37.27 # so we have one for FAQS and one for normal txt.. 05.37.31 # that should fix the prob i hope 05.37.40 # hopefully 05.37.40 # :) 05.37.50 # if not they can bitch at me later ;) 05.37.55 # heh 05.38.01 # i'm trying to find a crack for the new vmware 05.39.09 # ahh.. can't help you there... 05.39.10 # woo, found it 05.39.13 # * adi|dads needs a shower.. brb 05.39.24 # * MeRWiN things adi stinks 05.39.29 # * adi|dads nods 05.39.37 # was doing yardwork before my nap... 05.39.42 # now need clean water ;) 05.54.25 # hmm 05.54.37 # hmm waht 05.54.40 # what 05.54.47 # what if you want "Title/Artist" or the filename if no id3? 05.55.23 # Excuse me? 05.55.29 # and goddamnit the umount locked up... 05.55.46 # well the %c says it display's "Artist - Title" 05.56.14 # i want the fallback to filename but i don't like "Artist - Title" on an 11 char screen heh 05.56.30 # it scrolls :P 05.56.39 # yes and the backlight times out 05.56.51 # and usualy before it's scrolled over to the title which is what i'm more interested in 99% of the time anyways 05.56.53 # hmm... would Title - Artist be ok, or you want Title/Artist 05.57.11 # i don't like the way thats handled at all... 05.57.12 # heh 05.58.09 # I'll add an option for Title - Artist also 05.58.36 # heh 06.00.06 # there's gonna have to be a better way than that 06.00.26 # not really... I don't think 06.00.30 # how it falls back should be configurable in and of itself 06.01.00 # personaly i'd rather have it fall back to directory parsing 06.01.16 # and then filename if it can't even do that 06.03.00 # i'd say even a slightly better way would be to replace the first %a or %t or maybe even %u with the filename and strip out the rest if present when it falls back to a file 06.03.57 # now that would take me too long to code :-) 06.04.25 # i mean the whole idea of this is a configurable display, which it still isn't really if the only way to have fallback is to forgo your configuration heh 06.05.35 # well, fallback is an option that's really hard to configure unless you add extra lines to the wps.config file (ie: a fallback line) 06.06.35 # well... 06.07.01 # how about the fallback happens before the wps arrangement or whatever 06.07.15 # ? 06.07.28 # or i dunno... 06.07.28 # heh 06.07.54 # I give you a way to customize and all you do is complain about it... geez, children these days :-) 06.08.00 # hehe 06.08.52 # well to me the WPS is absolutely worthless if it doesn't display Something useful 06.09.13 # me too 06.09.18 # which means a WPS that doesn't fall back to display file or dir-parsed info on a file that doesn't have an id3 is worthless 06.09.22 # which is why i made the original 1 line id3 06.09.34 # i personally hate dir parsed :-) 06.09.57 # well most of my files are aranged Artist/Album/#-Title.mp3 06.10.08 # don't they have id3 tags? 06.10.12 # most of them 06.10.16 # not all 06.10.31 # you should write a script to add id3 tags using dir parsing 06.10.56 # why, when there's already code in rockbox to do the dir parsing? heh 06.11.24 # because *I* don't like dir parsing :-) 06.11.35 # a lot of my files are burned as they are on cd's and i'm not going to re-burn them just to back up modified versions so that i've got update backups of what's on my jukebox 06.12.06 # and such and soforth :p 06.13.03 # how about just adding some sort of conditional expressions to the format 06.13.16 # i guess it wouldn't be so easy.. 06.13.26 # It is doable, but difficult 06.13.43 # something I can work on during my next 6 hour flight home on friday 06.15.24 # %?%a%:%a%:%m 06.15.25 # or something :p 06.15.26 # heh 06.15.33 # heh thats ugly :p 06.15.50 # and it's probably not even the right syntax for what i was thinking of, i can never remember that crap :p heh 06.16.22 # Yeah, i'm limited to what I can do with one character 06.16.36 # it could be a simple this or that 06.17.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.17.17 # I'll work on it on friday 06.18.10 # %t%?%m[%a%?%]: %i/%l 06.18.11 # heh 06.18.31 # or something :p 06.18.51 # anyways i don't mean to give you shit about it 06.19.39 # i'm mainly just pissed because for no damn reason umount on my jukebox locked up and i'm going to have to reboot to fucking touch it via usb again 06.19.49 # just because of some random mysterious malfunction 06.20.55 # heg 06.20.56 # heh 06.22.42 # it's really upsetting that for all of linux's otherwise stability, control, and emergency facilities 06.22.53 # that've let me get out of serious problems without even rebooting before 06.23.36 # a USB HD can just suddenly stop communicating for no apparent reason and fuck it *all* so that i can't even reboot cleanly when it happens 06.24.05 # even with the magic-sysreq in the kernel that lets me press a key combo from anywhere and force the kernel to sync and unmount all the filesystems even *IT* loks up on that drive when it gets to it 06.24.48 # and thats just ridiculous 06.25.33 # there's no problem with the archos, with it's cable, with the USB controller, or anything anywhere, the battery just got fully charged a few hours ago and has only been used for a few minutes since, and this crap happens anyways 06.25.48 # and on top of it happening to start with, it flushes everything else down the toilet when it does 06.26.37 Quit PsycoXul ("FUCKING USB BULLSHIT") 06.29.34 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-9.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 06.29.42 # god i hate that 06.29.58 # the usb bluescreens in win2k if you do certain things with the archos also 06.30.13 # it makes me wonder what i'm even running linux for 06.30.29 # with this crap going on my parents get better uptime in win98 06.30.42 # heh 06.32.11 # winxp gets damn good uptime 06.33.01 # before i upgraded to a box with usb... 06.33.04 # i had 272 days 06.33.16 # 272 day(s), 15:12:16 running Linux 2.2.19, ended Thu Aug 1 23:13:57 2002 06.33.47 # and usb killed that 06.33.52 # ouch 06.34.54 # !$&(*#@()!G 06.35.02 # oh good.. there it goes 06.35.14 # heh it just took waaay too long to copy wps.config over :p 06.36.35 # really? 06.38.03 # volume adjustment's get overwritten by the scrolling of it ... heh 06.38.13 # That's not why 06.38.20 # whats not why? 06.38.36 # I had to set it for 1/6 of a second so if you pressed MENU+RIGHT+RIGHT+RIGHT+RIGHT really quickly, it wouldn't take forever :) 06.38.51 # huh? 06.39.01 # heh 06.42.31 # well good work on it so far 06.42.54 # you coded that up quick and it works pretty nice 06.43.10 # :) 06.43.17 # It'll be better by saturday hopefully 06.43.38 # I'm going to also write a sleep() that can be killed by a keypress 06.44.53 # speaking of sleep, i need to do some myself 06.44.59 # heh 06.45.01 # good night 06.45.07 # g'nite... 06.45.15 Quit MeRWiN () 06.55.40 Join MeRWiN [0] (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 06.55.45 Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Sleep (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 06.55.55 # merwin before you go 06.56.01 # yeah 06.56.13 # you do title-artist and artist-title 06.56.17 # yeah 06.56.18 # those strings.. how do you get them?> 06.56.25 # what do you mean? 06.56.32 # id3->artist id3->title 06.56.37 # right... 06.56.55 # so then why dont we just add a %F 06.57.00 # compared to %f 06.57.05 # or maybe a %z 06.57.05 # ? 06.57.08 # as a last resort 06.57.16 # and let the %z be defined in the .cfg as well 06.57.26 # so you could do like %z: %a-%f 06.57.43 # what would that do 06.57.45 # so if we don't load info, we dump %a-%f to the screen.. 06.57.49 # * adi|dads shrugs 06.57.58 # hes looking for answers to psyco's bitch ;) 06.58.02 # if the .config file isn't loaded you mean? 06.58.14 # * MeRWiN|Sleep loves Our Lady Peace... 06.58.18 # no, if the id3 data is toast.... 06.58.41 # oh, i'll work on the fallback shit on friday... a customizable fallback 06.58.47 # * adi|dads wonders if he just has everything f'd up in his mind 06.58.50 # k... 06.58.52 # nite :) 06.59.25 # have basically an if statement in the tags 07.01.02 # woo. mash is on 07.01.34 # nods 07.01.59 # my tag letters really don't mean anything. It's a shame really, but oddly, the output of my tags reminds me of the impossible-to-understand perl code 07.02.18 # hehehe 07.02.36 # In your HTML display of my format specs it still doesn't process double newlines 07.02.43 # :) 07.03.01 # http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/020821/life_diamonds_1.html 07.03.06 # sick sick sick... 07.03.08 # nods 07.03.09 # i know 07.03.16 # im eatting multispaces 07.03.20 # deal with it ;) 07.03.34 # multispaces? a double newline should just be interpreted as

07.04.35 # blah blah blah.. bitch bitch bitch 07.04.44 # WHINE WHINE 07.04.44 # im actually just doing 
 your file
07.04.45 # Naaaag 07.05.03 # adi|dads: if you're doing that then why would you strip anything from it? 07.05.10 # * adi|dads nods 07.05.13 # like i said. 07.05.19 # im actually just doing 
 your file
07.05.19 # :) 07.05.33 # well that would leave double lines intact... 07.05.34 # heh 07.05.38 # but somehow it doesn't 07.05.43 # * adi|dads nods 07.05.50 # dunno.. im playing with it no 07.05.51 # now 07.06.03 # no quiero dormir. NO QUIERO DORMIR 07.07.55 # yo quise a poner me carne in tu boca 07.07.56 # lol 07.07.59 # thats all i remember 07.08.00 # that and 07.08.05 # siempre viva 07.08.08 # donde esta el quarto de bano 07.08.25 # tenga no dinero no amour 07.08.36 # el bano es en su boca 07.08.40 # lol 07.09.04 # yo tengo MUCHO dinero! quiero una puta 07.09.04 # hamburgesa con keso, por favor 07.09.07 # pronto 07.09.12 # dwihno|gone: queso 07.11.41 # ok, yo voy a dormir. buenos noches! 07.12.19 Nick MeRWiN|Sleep is now known as MeRWiN|Dormir (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 07.12.19 # <-- suffers from disease of the stomach 07.12.20 # that suxks 07.12.22 # damn damn damn 07.12.29 # dwihno|gone: ack... 07.12.30 # sorry 07.13.25 # my employer will probably think I'm hungover since I had my b-day yesterday 07.23.32 # adi|dads: I forgot to mention... let zagor or linus or one of them know that the file opening code is a bit off. It will load a file named something like "wps.configs" if you tell it to open "wps.config" 07.23.53 # adi|dads: i figure you'll talk to them before me. You never seem to sleep 07.26.40 # will do :) 07.33.59 # ill be back 07.34.00 Quit adi|dads () 08.01.53 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.02.05 # morning 08.02.24 # morning 08.02.59 # wanted to let you know before i go to bed that the file opening code is off a bit. It will load a file named something like "wps.configs" if you tell it to open "wps.config" 08.09.12 # Bagder: is coca cola good for magsjuka? 08.09.34 # coca cola is good for eveeeerything 08.09.41 # agreed 08.09.48 Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 08.09.48 DBUG Enqueued KICK dwihno 08.10.05 # When's DevCon? 08.15.53 # hehe, good q 08.17.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.19.48 Quit Lowfiler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.20.47 # still lots of red builds 08.21.47 # It's a variable that's seemingly undeclared 08.21.51 # i'll kill the error 08.22.39 # you must declare all variables before the code 08.24.04 # yeah yeah yeah :) 08.24.09 # fixin' it 08.25.29 # that may do it 08.31.01 # Bagder: you get up way too early. It's like 7:30, right? 08.31.12 # 8:30 actually 08.31.18 # oooh, ok. that makes more sense :) 08.31.52 # I want it to rebuild to see if i fixed the reds 08.33.21 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 08.33.34 # yo wood 08.33.54 # MeRWiN|Dormir: hi-ho 08.34.18 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.34.18 # * MeRWiN|Dormir is so tired that he's unable to change the channel from "Adventures in babysitting" 08.34.51 # just downloaded cvs - features now really exceed archos 08.35.05 # rwood: *grin* 08.35.48 # in just about 4-5 months of coding 08.36.02 # however, i am getting "ILLEGAL INSTRUCTION TRAPS" at 0x696exxxx when skipping forward 08.36.08 # uugh 08.36.41 # MeRWiN|Dormir: hey, strrchr(id3->path, ch) is now made on a NULL id3 pointer 08.36.58 # You sure? 08.37.16 # Bagder: the pace of progress is amazing 08.37.16 # yes 08.37.19 # whoops, have to flip those two 08.37.28 # exactly 08.37.29 # ok, commiting :) 08.37.40 # it's 2:30am... i'm a bit out of it 08.37.55 # * Bagder forgives merwin for his sins ;-) 08.38.37 # 50 hail mary's 08.38.39 # :P 08.38.47 # woo, got it in before the automatic compile 08.38.57 # hehe 08.43.11 # yay, all clear. I'm going to bed 08.43.33 # night merwin 08.43.38 # night 08.43.43 # or morning rather 08.43.44 # :P 08.43.51 Nick MeRWiN|Dormir is now known as MeRWiN|Sleep (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 08.48.36 Join adi|dads [0] (adi_dads@138.89.23.226) 08.49.10 # woah... look at all the reds that were there... 08.49.13 # icky icky icky 08.49.19 # indeed 08.49.29 # Bagder.. i bastardized your txt2plain.pl 08.49.35 # we now have txt2html.pl 08.49.40 # and faq2html.pl 08.49.45 # ah, goodie 08.49.51 # and the makefile hits the right one... 08.49.54 # the txt2plain become very wrong anyway 08.49.57 # the name 08.50.02 # but the txt2 is _very_ basic... 08.50.12 # hehe look ;) 08.50.19 # * adi|dads nods 08.50.21 # i noticed 08.50.23 # thus the rename 08.50.29 # all good 08.50.34 # im going to pull it from the cvs in a bit... 08.52.08 # okay. its gone 08.52.10 # all clean again 08.52.32 # so.. i was thnking... with the wp_config.cfg thingy.. 08.52.54 # does it make sense to consider the creation of a rockbox dir on the archos sometime in the near future for such files? 08.52.57 # and fonts etc 08.52.59 # yes 08.53.03 # indeed 08.53.09 # I propose a .rockbox dir 08.53.22 # normally id agree... 08.53.24 # and then Bill Napier's . patch 08.53.36 # but its a bit nasty for windows users no? 08.53.42 # is it? 08.54.12 # hm, yes it is 08.54.26 # crappy os 08.54.32 # nods 08.54.38 # ok then, just rockbox then 08.57.10 # I don't like how the custom wps code reads from the file very often 08.57.28 # hmm..? define very often 08.57.56 # *very* often 08.57.58 # oh, yeah.. MeRWiN|Sleep said there was a bug in it somewhere.. that it was tacking on an 's' at the end of the file at times and he wasn't sure why 08.58.14 # hmmm it should just be read into memory at start... 08.58.18 # yes 08.58.28 # this one reads the file on draw_screen() 08.58.31 # hmmmm... that should be an easy fix... 08.58.33 # ACK! 08.58.34 # bad 08.58.35 # bad 08.58.37 DBUG Enqueued KICK adi|dads 08.58.37 # bad 08.59.15 # yeah, there should be a maximum size allowed, and then just attempt to read that much data at first invoke 08.59.40 # nods 08.59.44 # id say... 08.59.47 # every option 08.59.59 # with a " - " between each would be a good max 09.00.11 # so figure option count * 4? 09.00.36 # yeah, so something like 128 bytes will do 09.00.51 # nods that makes sense 09.00.56 # can we spare it? 09.01.23 # :-) 09.01.40 # by adding this, we might be able to cut out some other display code 09.01.57 # some of the hard-coded wps "modes" could use a hardcoded format string 09.02.04 # ill take that as a yes :) 09.02.11 # yes 09.02.12 # nods 09.02.16 # makes sense... 09.03.21 # lol 09.03.25 # faq is 293 lines long 09.05.42 # Hmm, FAQs look much better now 09.06.16 # yes, now they look as if they were made in html ;-) 09.06.44 # I'm wondering how to incorporate fortune 8-) 09.07.10 Quit rwood (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.08.11 # Hes: what do you mean? 09.08.25 # where to put it and it's data, and whether to commit it 8-) 09.09.02 # settings menu should have a submenu of useless settings 8-) 09.09.25 # and there, an option to enable fortune... and at boot it'd show a fortune cookie and wait for a keypress 09.09.57 # Or... maybe no need to have a setting, just fail quietly if the data files are not installed (the 500k fortune database and it's index file) 09.10.05 # imo, the data file needn't be in cvs 09.10.12 # Definetely very unnecessary bloat but I like it. 09.10.21 # Agreed. 09.10.30 # I think we can offer it on the site anyway 09.10.37 # What about the code? 09.10.44 # and then the code goes into apps/, 09.10.53 # this is recorder code? 09.11.06 # or do you plan to run it on players too? 09.11.12 # it should work on the player too if showtext() works there 09.11.45 # ok, so I suggest you make an apps/fortune.c or something 09.15.27 # bagder.. in your perl scripts 09.15.31 # what does 'last' do? 09.15.34 # Argh 09.15.43 # showtext() only knows how to show files 09.15.52 # so.. fix it :) 09.15.56 # what do you want it to do? 09.15.58 # adi|dads: what 'break' does in C, it skips out of loops 09.16.05 # ahh cool.. ty 09.16.18 # want to show from a buffer 09.16.41 # Hes: showtext() isn't being used anyway, it is only my rather basic efforts on a text reader 09.16.52 # Does it work? 09.16.58 # yes 09.17.02 # at least it used to 09.17.12 # I didn't feel like writing my own word wrapping code now 09.17.26 # my fortune.c currently simply wraps at the end of the screen 09.18.06 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.18.06 # * Hes has a Toshiba MK4018GAB 40G spindle on his desk 09.18.36 # The "Rattle noise is normal." on the top Caution sticker is funny. 09.18.49 # heheh 09.21.30 # Floating exception (core dumped) 09.21.33 # :-( 09.23.05 # hm 09.24.48 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 09.28.55 # I found a way to crash the mpeg thread 09.29.44 # by playing a zero-byte .mp3 file 09.34.10 # anyone knows how small the smallest possible mp3 file is? 09.34.28 # would be one frame 09.35.10 # but how small can one frame be? 09.39.30 Quit rwood () 09.52.01 # The header is umm... 3 bytes? 09.53.05 # if CRC, there's 2 bytes of it 09.54.17 # smallest bitrate is 8 kHz 09.54.40 # smallest sampling rate 8 kHz as well 09.55.50 # humm 09.56.18 # Trying to parse C code which i wrote a couple years ago to parse frames and cut a stream going through this filter to 1-hour files 8-) 09.56.23 # and cut at frame boundary 09.56.34 # it decodes the length of each frame 09.59.08 # BAH ! 09.59.09 # hessu@hessu-pc:~$> lame -r -m m -b 8 -s 8 - short.mp3 < /dev/null 09.59.09 # Assuming raw pcm input file 09.59.09 # LAME version 3.92 (http://www.mp3dev.org/) 09.59.09 # Using polyphase lowpass filter, transition band: 2742 Hz - 2839 Hz 09.59.11 # Encoding to short.mp3 09.59.14 # Encoding as 8 kHz 8 kbps single-ch MPEG-2.5 Layer III (16x) qval=2 09.59.16 # hessu@hessu-pc:~$> ls -l short.mp3 09.59.19 # -rw-rw-r-- 1 hessu hessu 216 Aug 22 10:58 short.mp3 09.59.21 # hessu@hessu-pc:~$> 09.59.24 # That's probably the shortest it can be 8-) 09.59.33 # bagder.. need an opinion on something 09.59.34 # thanks 09.59.44 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/faq.html 09.59.45 # then my new check for < 8 bytes isn't too far out ;-) 10.00.04 # basically.. a menu for the faqs 10.00.54 # damn.. screwd it p.. hold on 10.01.04 # I think the "oversized" questions make any kind of index look pretty odd 10.01.13 # I experimented with that myself too 10.01.24 Quit Hes ("reboot") 10.01.34 # i know.. i just don't know what to do with it :( 10.01.49 # well, me neither so I ditched the index plans ;-) 10.01.54 # lol 10.01.56 # now you tell me ;) 10.02.20 # it only proves you need to read ALL the irc logs from when you're absent :-P 10.02.32 # bah.. humbug ;) 10.02.48 # just proves you guys need to start following est instead of zulu :) 10.02.59 # hehe 10.04.39 # Bagder the multi 0 length files... 10.04.44 # you mention the sim going nuts 10.04.49 # yes 10.04.51 # can i assume its looping continuously? 10.04.56 # right 10.05.00 # easy fix 10.05.08 # we know how many files are in the dir correct? 10.05.13 # or atleast our listing of it 10.05.22 # in the playlist, yes 10.05.29 # the dir is made into a playlist in ram 10.05.32 # shrugs 10.05.44 # keep count of # of successive 0 length files 10.05.45 # but yes, if 'steps' is bigger than the list, it should return null 10.07.04 # then.. if the count is == the dir count, stop moving forward.. 10.07.07 # * adi|dads shrugs 10.17.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.17.45 # * Bagder got an interesting mail 10.18.21 # "Dear Daniel, Just checking with you how do I register for IRC if I am in Japan ? I would like to download the program and start chatting with friends. Please enlighten me if you have any information." 10.20.14 # weirdos 10.27.34 # retard would be the word i would choose 10.28.42 # I guess he found my irc history page or something 10.31.36 Join notch|out [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.32.00 # hey notch 10.32.13 # hey 10.32.19 Nick notch|out is now known as notch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.48.01 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.59.45 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp87.contactor.se) 11.11.51 Join Blaster_Master [0] (~noone@firewall.scribona.com) 11.14.51 Join ironi [0] (~ironi@as1-5-7.hka.j.bonet.se) 11.17.31 Join Lowfiler [0] (H@pD9E686E7.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.17.41 # morning @ll 11.17.51 # morning 11.23.16 # hello 11.23.40 # dokhtar irouni 11.23.49 # =) 11.24.17 # some1 here who compiles with windows? 11.24.32 # me does 11.26.09 # when i use gnu-sh and type make -f win32.mak 11.26.16 # the following error appears 11.26.52 # mpeg.o(.text+0x110c): undefined reference to `bitswap' 11.26.52 # make: *** [archos.elf] Error 1 11.27.11 # i checked out the latest files 11.27.26 # and compiling doesnt works anymore 11.27.35 # is it the same to u? 11.33.48 # hmm.. shouldn't be a prob... 11.33.55 # the builds are all green 11.35.12 # maybe the win32.mak file isnt up to date or has an error 11.36.05 # the bitwap is an assembler file now 11.36.45 # I bet edx hasn't fixed the makefile to reflect that 11.37.03 # ya ok - i will wait until edx is online 11.37.13 # I still think win32.mak should be removed and the normal Makfile fixed to work with the gnu-sh 11.37.33 # then again, I am annoying ;-) 11.37.40 # yo that would be cool :) 11.43.03 # they are *very* similar so it isn't a very big job 11.48.51 # only 1.85% of open source projects are audio related :-) 11.54.11 # so u r one of the minority :) 11.54.34 # yeah, but I guess I'm so in more aspects too: http://www.infonomics.nl/FLOSS/report/ 11.54.45 Quit Blaster_Master (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.54.56 # (huge report on open source/free software) 11.56.04 # ya many pdf files to read :) 11.56.36 # yeps 12.00.58 # hehe i started reading that last night 12.01.19 # then i got side tracked to the 'turned your beloved deceased family member into a diamond' 12.09.07 # my favorite part is that vi beat out emacs as editor of choice ;) 12.10.35 # i find emacs cut and paste a real pain in the ass 12.11.11 # gimme normal cut and paste! 12.11.18 # you mean windows-style? 12.11.24 # there's some lisp package for that 12.11.28 # I know Linus uses that all the time 12.11.52 # I'll ask him when he turns up.. 12.12.45 # I keep on loosing my cy buffer by accidentaly highlighting something else :-( 12.12.49 # cut 12.12.56 # hehehehe 12.13.09 # thats why i bounce back and forth between my good buffer.. and a scracth buffer 12.13.19 # 98.79% of os/ff ppl are male 12.13.26 # surprise surprise surprise 12.13.32 # is that what that scratch is for! 12.13.47 # 41.31% are single 12.13.51 # * adi|dads uses it for that 12.13.57 # ctrl-k 12.14.04 # ctrl-x ctrl-o 12.14.14 # ctrl-u 12.14.19 # * adi|dads nods happily 12.15.04 # You know youre in trouble when you have to read the manual for a text editor :-) 12.16.56 # hehehe 12.17.03 # yeah.. tell that to a newbie on vi ;) 12.17.08 # talk about lack of docs ;) 12.17.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.17.23 # i love vi.. but atleast emacs is all in the editor 12.18.23 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 12.18.27 # hi all 12.18.43 # howdy 12.19.50 # * adi|dads coughs 12.19.54 # #include 12.19.54 # #define S(s)char x[]=#s;s 12.19.54 # #define Q(x)x 12.19.54 # #define A(x,y)y##x 12.19.54 # #define B(x,y)A(y,x) 12.19.55 *** Alert Mode level 1 12.19.55 # #define C(x,y)B(y,x) 12.19.57 # #define Z(s,t,u)case s:if(*p!=32){t;}else{u;}break; 12.19.59 # S(B( A( a ,m ),A(n ,i))() {B (A(h,c ),A(r ,a ))*p=x ;B(A( n, i),t)t 12.20.01 # =0;B(A(n , i),t)s =0;B( f ,A(r, o )) (;*p;Q( p)++){C( B( A(c,t) ,h),B(A( 12.20.03 # w, s),i))( s){ Z( 0,t+=8 *8-00 ,s ++)Z( 1,t+= 8 ;,s++ )Z ( 2, t++ ,putchar(t-73);t=s=0)}}}) 12.20.06 # hehehehe 12.20.08 # i love it 12.20.26 # occc rocks 12.23.52 # ZagorZagorZagorZagorZagorZagorZagorZagor 12.24.00 # Zagor rules 12.24.08 # Misa want DevCon! :D 12.24.29 # hehe 12.29.56 *** Alert Mode OFF 12.30.44 # am I the only one wanting it? 12.43.14 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 12.44.22 # wow pulling that a part is annoying :) 12.44.33 # C( B( A(c,t), h), B( A(w, s), i) )(s) just means 12.44.35 # switch(s) 12.44.36 # heheheh 12.44.51 # god how i love occ 12.44.56 # occc rather 12.45.00 # Ah, HD of laptop backed up... the 2.5" - 3.5" HD adapter was a good purchase. 12.49.49 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 12.56.09 # Hes: my ac adapter outputs 9.25 & 12.35 V, according to my new multimeter 12.57.09 >>> "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 12.57.10 >>> "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 12.57.30 # new(tm) ? :) 12.57.33 # what's a multimeter good for? 12.57.38 # except measuring voltages? 12.57.57 # i will do mA tests before 1.3 release, and put that in the release notes 12.58.34 # anyone feeling bored? try booting the latest archos firmware and see how long it plays a 128kbit mp3 until the disk spins up again. 12.58.42 # then to the same thing on rockbox 12.58.49 # I can do that 12.58.54 # good 12.59.09 # Only for YOU ;D 13.05.47 # * Bagder returns 13.06.25 # yo bro 13.06.31 # hey ho 13.06.49 # MeRWiN's wps stuff needs tweaking 13.06.54 # as you might've spotted 13.07.49 Quit Snorlax ("I'll be back") 13.08.17 # yeah, I want it working on recorder for one thing... 13.08.32 # notice how often it loads the file... 13.08.57 # I'm a little dissappointed he couldn't wait for 1.3 with this 13.09.03 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 13.09.08 # it introduces a whole bucket of new bugs 13.09.23 # we could always #ifdef it out until 1.3 ships 13.09.31 # #ifdef WPS_CUSTOM 13.09.52 # yes, I think that's the best 13.11.31 # I think I have an idea of how to do the SLEEP 13.11.41 # I'll make a post about it soonish 13.11.45 # nice 13.17.51 # any thoughts about the hide-dot files patch? 13.17.58 # I've tried it and it works nicely 13.18.05 # very confusing names, imho 13.18.37 # you mean in the settings menu? 13.18.51 # settings.c, mainly 13.19.20 # I don't think I agree with that 13.21.07 # i'll look it up 13.21.54 # what a lovely fellow, this Brian Groth 13.21.59 # its official.. i have lost all patience on the mailing list... 13.22.07 # Brian the goth 13.22.48 # zagor, whats the prob in settings.c? 13.23.29 # what does "hidden_as_dotfile" mean? 13.23.45 # it means that hidden files appear as dot-files ;-) 13.24.00 # Zagor: does the latest daily build have the assembly bitswap thingy? 13.24.02 # are they renamed in the browser? 13.24.07 # dwihno: yes 13.24.12 # Zagor: yes 13.24.37 Quit adi|dads () 13.24.39 # we'll get tons of complaints for that. what is the advantage of doing such a thing? 13.25.04 # no, I can't think of any... 13.25.14 # the hide dot-files I can agree more with 13.25.22 # yes, that's sensible 13.25.35 # I guess he wanted to visualize that the files are hidden 13.25.36 # and hide-hidden-files (which should be the same flag) 13.25.58 # yes hide-hidden would use the same 13.26.06 # but no perverting the filenames for no good reason 13.26.19 # he explains the reason why my .directory's don't show up too heh 13.26.34 # PsycoXul: yes, that's a very old bug :-) 13.26.51 # so why'd you never fix it? :p 13.27.02 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 13.27.23 # PsycoXul: I've thought about it several times, but then always forgotten it when more urgent things came up 13.27.38 # btw have you guys heard about the crop formation found like 6 days ago 13.27.58 # that has what looks like a CD as part of it, with binary bits spelling out ascii text? 13.28.42 # lol 13.28.52 # it's bizzare :p 13.28.59 # i'm sitting here decoding it from a photograph 13.29.04 # url? 13.29.17 # http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=381&category=Environment 13.30.16 # there's more photos at pages that links to 13.30.39 # I need an advice from you guys. I'm considering using a display polish intended for cellular phones on the archos display to remove some scratches... Thoughts? 13.30.41 # crap, man. that took some patience to carve out! 13.31.09 # if the photo is even real 13.31.39 # dwihno: can't see why it shouldn't work 13.31.40 # http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Crabwood/crabwood2002a.html 13.33.02 # Zagor: me neither, I think I'll give it a shot 13.33.09 # My tests are done in a minute 13.33.40 # "Save the web site from badwidth overload" 13.33.45 # heh 13.33.58 # pure text, written on a 500x375 jpg 13.34.02 # tests are done 13.34.03 # :p 13.34.06 Join Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 13.34.11 # I've got a few hints for those cluebies... 13.34.12 # enya - memory of trees 192 kbit/s (44.1kHz) 13.34.12 # 1:13 2:21 3:29 rbox (old bitswap) 13.34.12 # 1:11 2:21 3:29 rbox (new bitswap) 13.34.12 # 0:59 2:00 3:01 archos 1.27d 13.34.17 # that's when it loads 13.34.40 # so we're doing quite a lot better then. nice! 13.34.48 Quit Synthe (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.35.04 # yeah 13.35.11 # 10+ seconds is quite a lot :) 13.35.20 # Yay! Start rockin' with rockbox! 13.36.59 # sleeping thoughts posted 13.42.01 # PsycoXul: I like how the aliens used US-ASCII to convey their galatic message :-) 13.43.17 # yes 13.43.53 # it's quite bizzare to actualy mark the bits on the photo and see it there for yourself :p 13.45.24 # hehe 13.46.12 # at least those friendly aliens wrote in english 13.46.27 # isn't that nice? 13.46.53 # yeah, the make an effort to hide it with some binary stuff and then they spoil it by using english ;-) 13.50.21 # Zagor: do you know how hard it is to activate the recording on the MAS? 13.50.32 # no 13.50.37 # ok 13.50.47 # I don't think it's very difficult, though 13.51.09 # probably not 13.55.57 # Zagor: about Bill Napier's dot patch. I'm in favour of doing the part 1 but not part 2. 13.56.02 # me too 14.01.34 # so I let you respond to his mail ;-) 14.01.45 # ok 14.01.56 Join quelsaruk [0] (zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.01.59 # hi 14.02.21 # hi 14.03.21 # ¡hola! 14.03.27 # * Zagor likes the ¡ sign :-) 14.03.32 # hola zagor! 14.03.36 # jajajjajaja 14.04.01 # :) 14.06.38 # when you press "on key" on the recorder and you are on the wps, you jump ro the file explorer, but it is possible to go again to wps again? 14.06.49 # a lot of agains.. :) 14.07.00 # press on again 14.07.29 # umm it dind't work.. i'll try it again 14.07.31 # :) 14.09.46 # it WorksForMe 14.13.59 # well.. sometimes my recorder seems to ignore keypress, maybe that was the problem :) 14.16.47 # Bagder: can you handle bill's patch? 14.17.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.17.45 # sure 14.19.39 # do you deal with merwin's stuff then? 14.19.53 # yes, and hardeep's 14.19.59 # right 14.21.28 # is "hide dotfiles" a good enough name then? 14.21.34 # it hides hidden files too 14.21.46 # i think the flag should be reversed. "show hidden files" 14.22.09 # good idea 14.22.21 # people who know what dotfiles are, will also understand they can be considered "hidden" 14.30.01 # the recorder runs ~110 mA during playback 14.30.28 # in average? 14.31.01 # no, when the disk and backlight is off 14.31.08 # ok 14.32.16 # the backlight uses ~40mA 14.35.48 # great, cuz my backlight doesn't work! I've got a 40mA spare 14.36.01 # haha 14.36.19 # 40mA during a few seconds is massive ;-) 14.38.24 # yupp! you should see my battery life! =) 14.38.40 # you'd be amased! 14.39.32 # :-) 14.40.21 Part Bagder 14.40.54 Part quelsaruk 14.41.25 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.41.33 # oops, closed my ssh window ;-) 14.41.48 # lots of windows popped off 14.42.27 # haha 14.43.26 # morning 14.43.35 # morning mr merwin 14.44.08 Nick MeRWiN|Sleep is now known as MeRWiN (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 14.44.11 # woke up late :) 14.45.57 # MeRWiN: we want to postpone your custom wps stuff to after 1.3 14.46.14 # sven goes assembler crazy... 14.46.29 # yeps 14.46.31 # Bagder: seems reasonable. It needs work :) 14.46.51 # Zagor: afaik, 'register' is not such a gain with gcc 14.47.02 # i doubt it too 14.47.51 # Bagder: a proper implementation of it will take another week or so at least of tweaking, and I know we want 1.3 out before that. 14.48.41 # MeRWiN: could you make a nice #ifdef WPS_CUSTOM around those parts? it would allow you and other volounteers to continue patching on it but leave it outside the default builds 14.50.15 # Bagder: I really just have to #ifdef WPS_CUSTOM the menu option in the player, right? That will basically disable the entire thing. 14.50.54 Join nsauzede [0] (gizz@lyon-2-a7-62-147-21-10.dial.proxad.net) 14.51.33 # hi 14.51.53 # I'll have that added today. Gotta run to work now (and I mean run) 14.51.56 Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Shower (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 14.53.57 # hey all, I've got patches for player, to handle USB logo while in Menu/WPS, anyone interested ? 14.55.47 # nsauzede: sure, please post! 14.56.17 # bagder: ok, I send it, and please tell me if anything is wrong ;) 14.57.30 # MeRWiN|Shower: also #ifdef around the code in the wps, or it will be unnecessarily included in the build 15.01.17 # Zagor: Okey. Hey... I actually got my player to display "[DataMode]" instead of [USB Mode] last night... I think it was in the stock archos firmware. I plugged in the USB right when it was loading the rockbox firmware 15.01.21 # bagder: just sent it. 15.01.33 # Of course, next time i tried to do it it blue screened windows :) 15.01.51 # haha 15.02.58 Nick MeRWiN|Shower is now known as MeRWiN|Hotel (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 15.04.07 # see u later.. 15.05.19 # see ya all on the flipside 15.05.20 # :) 15.05.27 Quit MeRWiN|Hotel () 15.05.28 # player-old uses ~140mA for some reason 15.06.03 # weird 15.07.00 # yes 15.07.42 # but it has a more efficient backlight 15.08.19 # I've got got a 140 mA spare then.. 15.09.06 # Snorlax: yeah, when it 15.09.09 # is turned off :) 15.09.29 # great.. 15.10.34 # but I'm going in there and solder a lill' bit here an' there and fix the backlight(...) and also do the sound mod 15.10.46 # this weekend 15.10.56 # when player uses ATA_SLEEP instead of ATA_STANDY it goes down to 110mA too 15.11.06 # Snorlax: good luck :-) 15.11.34 # Zagor: gosh, isn't that the opposite of what Linus found out, he must've been measuring on the recorder... ? 15.12.04 # zagor:yeah thanks, I'll need it!! 15.12.14 # * Bagder can't really remember all turnes in the sleep vs standby work 15.12.20 # Bagder: yes. i'll test it on the recorder now 15.12.37 # can u order from farnell in sweden not as a company? 15.12.44 # no idea 15.12.59 # so start a company and order ;-) 15.13.28 # haha, guess I'll do that! 15.13.42 # having your own company is in fact pretty good 15.14.24 # yeah, but what should it do? 15.14.55 # hehe... eeeh, you could deal with "computer services and electronics" ;-) 15.15.16 # you don't have to actually do anything with it 15.15.23 # *wasn't serious* 15.15.29 # * Bagder is 15.15.31 Quit nsauzede (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.15.31 # ;-) 15.16.01 # =) 15.16.39 # recorder with SLEEP goes all the way down to 70mA idle 15.16.49 # sleep is the right thing, for sure 15.16.49 # * Snorlax is still a litte child(16) and listens to Eminem so I guess he's not ready to get a company 15.17.11 # Zagor: that is so weird, I wonder how/what Linus did when he measured 15.17.38 # yes 15.17.40 # * Bagder pats Snorlax on his shoulder, you'll learn when you grow up ;-) 15.18.09 # now try with poweroff! 15.19.03 # * Snorlax doesn't care about Bagder cuz he's a rebelious teen and doesn't care about anything! 15.19.04 # Bagder: yup, will do that 15.19.14 # =) 15.19.29 # * Bagder smiles and looks around, as he is so old and not very understanding 15.20.01 # the CPU alone is said to use 60, so there's only 10 left to "take" 15.20.31 # recorder w/ poweroff: 60mA 15.20.38 # i need to talk to Linus 15.20.42 # yeah 15.20.50 # where is that guy? 15.21.02 # * Snorlax doesn't care about this discussion! =) 15.21.10 # what does the Archos firmware consume? 15.21.14 # poweroff doesn't sound very nice, though. I'm not sure it's very nice to the drive. 15.21.27 # elinenbe: I don't know. I'll measure that soon 15.21.29 # yes, we've talked about that 15.21.39 # but I wonder how bad it can be 15.21.47 # I mean, the sleep will stop it 15.21.56 # there isn't such a big diff 15.22.14 # but I'm faaaar from being a HD expert... 15.22.29 # poweroff makes the drive to an emergency head park 15.22.44 # sounds like it's not supposed to be done frequently 15.23.22 # perhaps if we first did a sleep (which parks) and then powers off 15.24.10 # yes, that was my thinking too. so that it has spun down when powered off 15.24.57 # unfortunately, sleep takes 200-300 ms to execute 15.25.40 # and standby? 15.26.34 # same 15.27.05 # well it would need some kind of timer, "go standby" (sleep 500 ms) "poweroff" 15.27.51 # archos has idle comsumption 80 mA 15.27.56 # yes 15.28.08 # not much problem, since we already have a thread 15.28.21 # are you writing these measurements down? they can be useful to keep around 15.28.56 >>> "seen" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 15.30.13 # yes, I am 15.30.39 # interesting, just using ATA_SLEEP we should be getting better runtime than archos 15.30.48 # especially since we have a larger mp3 buffer too 15.31.23 # that's pretty cool indeed 15.31.52 # hm, we were like 10% better on the buffer times, right? 15.32.11 # enya - memory of trees 192 kbit/s (44.1kHz) 15.32.12 # 1:13 2:21 3:29 rbox (old bitswap) 15.32.12 # 1:11 2:21 3:29 rbox (new bitswap) 15.32.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK Zagor 15.32.12 # 0:59 2:00 3:01 archos 1.27d 15.32.27 # more than 10%. 12 seconds per minute is like 20% 15.32.28 # ah, thanks 15.33.48 # well, in average 9.33 seconds longer between each fill 15.34.50 # and with Archos doing it pretty exactly once per minute, we're roughly having a 15% largee buffer 15.36.15 # which makes our buffer roughly 0.23MB bigger, the 1.27d should have a buffer at about 1.53MB 15.36.35 # sounds reasonable 15.39.34 Join nsauzede [0] (gizz@lyon-1-a7-62-147-18-85.dial.proxad.net) 15.40.45 # anyone has a player/rockbox powered on out there ? 15.40.58 # yup 15.41.05 # I 15.41.10 # I'm getting a spam flood today :-( 15.41.59 # zagor/anyone_w_player: if you press menu, then + two times, what happening ? 15.42.42 # nsauzede: the display is not cleared properly. nice catch. 15.43.18 # I'got a patch, but don't know if it is correct.. 15.43.50 # I suspect a nug in lcd_stop_scroll() 15.43.52 # bug 15.44.25 # the cleaning fails only when previous item was scrollable.. 15.44.28 # how lovely. abuse@hotmail.com responds in HTML... 15.46.13 # another quirk, anybody : after USB disc, when in browse mode, root is rescanned... good, 15.46.36 # but when in menu, after USB disc, root is _not_ rescanned.. 15.47.01 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|out (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 15.47.01 DBUG Enqueued KICK Zagor|out 15.47.04 # so I presume that root rescan could be launched in USB thread, not in browse thread 15.47.17 # any objection ? 15.47.25 # nsauzede: no, you're mixing application and firmware 15.48.19 # nothing from the firmware/ module must ever call code in the apps/ module. only the other way. 15.48.22 # oops, I presume root rescan must be duplicated in menu.c, so.. can make a patch for that if you want.. 15.48.44 # it's better to simply return from the menu, and do the root scan in tree.c 15.48.50 # gotta go, see you later 15.49.02 # ok 15.49.39 # bye.. 16.00.29 Join _nsauzede [0] (gizz@lyon-4-a7-62-147-110-16.dial.proxad.net) 16.01.04 # <_nsauzede> bagder: interested by a patch for Menu/player ?? 16.01.48 # I'm always intrested in patches 16.02.26 # <_nsauzede> ok let's go.. 16.02.31 # I'm getting some distortion with Tuesday's cvs. Is this a known issue? 16.02.40 # no 16.02.59 # is that with the new bitswap? 16.03.20 # I think so, yes. 16.04.26 # <_nsauzede> bagder: when I (_nsauzede) will leave, could you suppress 'nsauzede' from the nick list ?? It seems that I didn't disc correctly last time I went.. 16.05.23 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 16.05.28 Kick (#rockbox nsauzede :Bagder) by Bagder!~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se 16.05.42 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 16.05.44 # <_nsauzede> haaa, feel better now, thanks :) 16.05.47 Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Work (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 16.05.48 # :-) 16.05.51 # Hmm, it's quite noticeable on the same section of track each time 16.07.38 # I need to try it with another player, check it's not the mp3 that's corrupt. I'll let you know tommorow 16.08.00 # ok 16.08.09 # <_nsauzede> bye.. 16.08.22 Quit _nsauzede () 16.17.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.19.08 # I have wirtten a bit of code for people with thier own 'homebuilt' remotes... 16.19.58 # OK, lets see how this commit goes in terms of the auto-build :) 16.20.49 # it FF's within a track...lemme know if anyone is interested... 16.23.57 # notch: you should probably post it, there isn't that many "remoters" here 16.25.35 # what happens when a cvs build gets to 1.100? does it change to 2.0 or something? 16.26.28 # no 16.26.30 # 1.100 16.26.32 # 1.101 16.26.35 # etc 16.26.49 # 1.999 ... 1.1000 16.27.17 # there's only one way to have it go to 2.N and that is by manually making it 16.30.12 Join quelsaruk [0] (zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.30.26 # ahh 16.30.29 # ok 16.36.28 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABBF4.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.36.32 # hi 16.36.42 # hi edx 16.36.59 # Bagder, how do you do the thing with the automatic mail notification? 16.37.06 # hey edx 16.37.12 # edx: on the cvs commits? 16.37.14 # did you modify loginfo? 16.37.15 # yea 16.38.06 # right 16.38.24 # ^firmware $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/syncmail -C4 -u %{sVv} rockbox-cvs@cool.haxx.se 16.39.12 # then there's the syncmail script that makes the diff and things 16.39.50 # ok.. 16.40.03 # thanks... 16.40.23 # anyone want to dcc me a starbucks coffee? 16.40.25 Quit Hes (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.40.45 # edx: check details here => http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/CVSROOT/ 16.40.52 # thx 16.41.43 # edx query plz 16.42.54 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 16.43.10 # So how is the power consumtion of our firmware to archos' firmware? 16.43.59 # slightly higher 16.44.55 # but we might go lower than the stock firmware by using ATA SLEEP instead of STANDBY 16.45.30 # also, we have a ~15% larger mp3 buffer than the Archos recorder 1.27d version 16.46.03 # I thought standby used less than sleep? 16.46.07 # or we determined that 16.46.13 # yes 16.46.27 # Linus measured that, but Zagor's measurements contradict those 16.46.37 # so we're not sure what to think ;-) 16.46.50 # hehe 16.47.22 # zagor has seniority? :) 16.47.54 # uh, I'll use my right to not comment that :-) 16.47.58 # heh 16.48.16 # after all, he is my little brother... B) 16.50.39 # hmmm Bagder - can you take me out of the cvs mailing list 16.51.05 # the mail will be bouncing - took the mail server down (got kinda spammed, a few connects / sec0 16.51.58 # Bagder: but who started the project? 16.52.13 Quit Snorlax ("gittar ny!") 16.52.32 # Bagder: as a little brother myself, I can vouche for his ability to supercede the older brother 16.52.33 # heh 17.01.33 Join edx|notebook [0] (~edx@pD9EAAAAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.18.14 # edx: ok, I'll remove you from the list 17.19.08 Join webbie [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 17.19.18 # edx: done 17.19.18 # Bagder: thanks. 17.19.25 # Bagder: do you know hh.com? 17.19.31 # no 17.19.35 # they were trying to connect to the mail server lol 17.19.38 # hiya 17.20.03 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.20.34 # edx|notebook: "Hecker & Harriman" 17.21.15 # "the hecker law group" 17.21.23 Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAAAAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.22.45 # Pac Bell Internet Services 17.23.21 # hmm what would the want from my mail server? 17.23.35 # i think it does not hold a detailed log.. :/ 17.23.43 # probably some kind of abuse, spam, DOS, whatever 17.23.52 Join edx|notebook [0] (~edx@pD9EAAAAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.23.54 Quit edx|notebook (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.12 # strange... 17.25.02 # you should record logs and then mail them and ask 17.25.10 # there were some other IPs as well... I remember a virus connecting to my ftp from several govermental computers 17.28.33 # using a decent firewall, you can block those IPs 17.30.12 # yep... i have tried a firewall locally, once - but it created bluescreens (which is actually really a hard-core programming mistake in these days) 17.30.58 # the problem is that the firewall will tend to block ALL traffic at first so i cant remote-control the server any more 17.31.18 # you need linux, I can tell :-) 17.31.43 # hehe, maybe you are right 17.32.03 # but i know windows so much better these days - a change to linux would reset me to stone-age 17.32.17 # "Dude, this is seriously cool stuff. I just picked up a JBS10 off eBay and I didn't even test the Archos firmware - I just jumped on RockBox... very cool." 17.32.20 # better? 17.32.21 # blah 17.32.24 # for what? 17.32.30 # clicking on icons? 17.32.52 # i said i know it better.. not that it is better (well, actually the GUI is better) 17.33.07 # hehe 17.33.14 # well, you could learn... 17.33.18 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 14 minutes and 49 seconds at the last flood 17.33.18 # * Bagder shuts up 17.33.25 # * edx laughs.. 17.33.32 # "Dude, this is seriously cool stuff. I just picked up a JBS10 off eBay and I didn't even test the Archos firmware - I just jumped on RockBox... very cool." 17.33.42 # hehe 17.33.55 # this guy really trusts in us 17.34.24 # he's probably insane ;-) 17.36.00 # :) 17.36.30 # edx: dou you use win2k? 17.37.36 # yes 17.38.00 # and can u use recorder simulator? 17.38.13 Quit MeRWiN|Work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.38.25 # hmm i use the simulator with xp normaly, but it should work on 2k as well - waht's wrong? 17.38.54 # when i start it it uses 80% of my processor and collapses 17.39.41 # it's like a loop or something like that 17.39.56 # hum.. bad... 17.40.40 # i don't really mind, becuase i use my recorder instead, but today i ran out of batteries and i don't have my cherger here 17.40.44 # charger 17.42.26 # any idea? 17.45.59 # hmmmm 17.46.24 # what compilation did you take? 17.48.05 # i used the one in the website... but i'm thinking in compile it myself using the latest code (by the way... cvs autobuild for recorder simulator link at the web is broken) 17.50.03 Quit pyvasene ("Client Exiting") 17.51.22 # "Go ahead and use the daily build if you 17.51.22 # want. You'll love the result. I'm now Rockbox all the way...no 17.51.22 # looking back. " 17.52.53 Part Bagder 17.55.48 # anyway edx.. i'll wait until my jukebox is charged... but i'll try to find the bug (if there's any) 17.58.49 Join rocket23 [0] (ircle@CPE-144-132-135-75.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 17.59.03 # hi, anyone around? 18.00.40 # hi 18.01.05 # the ones on the website dont wokr and the broken link is temproarily down.. yea 18.01.08 Join aakil [0] (~anon12002@adsl-63-195-51-251.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 18.01.15 # hey, a quick question 18.01.22 # not really related to rockbox though 18.01.41 # i bought a jb6000 today, and the rom firmare is pretty old 18.01.52 # firmware 18.02.08 # is there much difference between the later and older models? 18.02.55 # recorder or player? 18.03.02 # player 18.03.27 # i just wanted something cheap, i was considering the ipod, but figured it wasn't really worth the money 18.03.42 # if i'm not in an error there is some difference, but not sure which one... i have a recorder :( 18.05.04 # edx: thx for confirming me there was something wrong, I was thinking it was me who had the problem :) 18.06.16 # quelsaruk: does a console window pop up before it crashes? 18.07.16 # edx: yes, apears and the emulator console 18.07.21 # showes the logo 18.07.26 # shows 18.07.36 # argg... i hate this keyboard 18.17.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.21.27 Join MeRWiN|Work [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 18.21.38 # Is there a way we could maybe reserve, say, 250-300k of buffer for the next track? or at least have that option? It seems that if we started playing the next track out of buffer and then fill up the buffer off of disk, it would be a smoother transition to the next track 18.28.47 # huh? 18.28.56 # does it show a DOS console or a win32 window? 18.29.06 # (sorry, I was absent) 18.30.11 # win32 18.30.17 # hmmm 18.30.23 # (doesn't matter, i had work to do) 18.30.26 # can you mail me the exe, so i can test 18.30.45 # dcc better? 18.30.52 # no im behind a server... 18.31.42 # can you get files from a ftp server? i have som problems with my e-mail server 18.32.19 # ok 18.32.21 # no problem 18.32.24 # just give me the address 18.32.54 Quit MeRWiN|Work (Remote closed the connection) 18.33.57 # * edx has to go and eat something - i'll be back soon! 18.34.03 Nick edx is now known as edx|eatz (~edx@pD9EAAAAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.46 Quit aakil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.45.12 Nick fraggle is now known as fragglet (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 18.53.15 Quit notch () 19.12.25 Quit rocket23 ("*") 19.16.36 Nick edx|eatz is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAAAAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.27.34 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel-out (zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 19.33.16 # something seems to be kind of screwed up with the player simulator on windows :/ 19.34.36 Quit Lowfiler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.03.55 Join Lowfiler [0] (H@pD9E687AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.04.31 Part quel-out 20.17.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.31.49 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 20.32.28 # hi 20.33.30 # hey bagder 20.33.42 # bagder: the simulator has a problem in player mode (win32 sim) 20.33.56 # somehow the dimensions of the display are screwed up in the latest version 20.34.07 # it's been enlarged 20.34.36 # the x11 version runs its window 138x54 pixels 20.34.53 # oh... hmmmmmmmm 20.34.56 # how can i fix that 20.37.54 # I don't know, that's your side of the table ;-) 20.38.35 # doh 20.38.41 # where do you set that resolution? 20.38.53 # x11/screenhack.c 20.39.03 # for the window 20.39.08 # hmm 20.39.15 # the LCD_WIDTH is #ifdef for player sim in lcd.h 20.39.23 # currently it's like the player window is too large and symbols get cut off 20.39.38 # yea.. when i modify this one it is still too high 20.48.13 Join MeRWiN|Work [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 20.48.24 # did i ever mention i hate firewalls? 20.51.02 Join hardeeps [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 20.51.13 Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.51.13 DBUG Enqueued KICK Zagor 20.51.21 # hi hardeeps. good job with the mpeg code! 20.51.29 # thanks :) 20.51.39 # mighty fine indeed 20.52.03 # now if i can only get rid of the last few pesky bugs and we can get 1.3 out the door. :) 20.52.16 # indeedo 20.52.45 Nick hardeeps is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 20.52.50 # there we go. :) 20.54.22 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 20.54.22 # * MeRWiN|Work slaps Bagder around a bit with a large trout 20.54.24 # hardeep: would you like to get CVS access to commit your wonders yourself? 20.55.08 # * Bagder noticed merwin has too many buttons in his IRC client ;-) 20.55.32 # * MeRWiN|Work wanted to find out the exact wording of the trout slap, and didn't want to slap himself 20.55.49 # Hmmmm.... perhaps for the trivial fixes. Let me sign up for a sourceforge account 20.56.11 # * Zagor goes to make food 21.03.24 # eating is irrelevant 21.05.44 # someone with a player should have a go at NSauzede's patch 21.08.49 # Bagder: what is NS's patch? 21.09.09 # on the mailing list: "USB con/disc for players" 21.09.16 # ahhh 21.09.33 # Bagder: mind forwarding that to me? jheiner@yahoo.com 21.09.35 # I deleted it 21.09.41 # coming 21.09.45 # thanks 21.09.50 # I'll implement it tonight 21.10.10 # goodie 21.10.25 # all patches are saved in the mail archive, otherwise 21.10.32 # true 21.10.36 # I like the 'attachment' index 21.12.56 # I hate that sourceforge doesn't allow Reply-To: set in their mailing lists 21.13.10 # no 21.13.13 # I *hate* 21.13.15 # :-) 21.17.25 # Badger: my sourceforge id is "hardeeps" 21.18.40 # You're in! 21.31.10 # hardeeps? :) 21.32.44 # emacs diff-mode rocks 21.34.45 # Bagder: what does this patch do? just show the usb icon for connection and disconection? 21.35.02 # I don't know, I haven't checked it 21.35.27 # heh, me neither... 21.35.36 # when I said "have a go" I meant check it out, see if it is fine, try it and then possibly commit it 21.35.54 # ahh 21.36.01 # i thought you already knew what it was :-) 21.36.37 # I knew it was usb related, but that's about it ;-) 21.37.51 # well, i'll look at it tonight 21.42.48 # Bagder: there's a menu problem with the player... if you are on the 2nd line line and it is scrolling something like "Sound Settings" and you press the down arrow to a line, say... "Info". It will say Infod Settings" 21.43.16 # ouch 21.43.32 # only if it's after a scrolling line though i think 21.43.50 # i had psycoxul verify it with his also 21.47.53 # it doesn't do that on the simulator 21.48.02 # interesting 21.48.22 # hm, yes it does 21.48.27 # I was wrong 21.48.33 # I tried it in the dir browser 21.48.37 # there it works fine 21.58.51 # you fixed it? 21.58.57 # no 21.59.00 # ah 21.59.11 # it works fine in the dir browser but bugs in the menu 21.59.14 # yeah 22.07.53 # So that and opening a file uses wildcards when it shouldn't 22.08.00 # partial string matching i mean 22.11.11 # right 22.11.29 # I wonder why it makes that 22.11.48 # I fix 22.13.20 # I fixed 22.14.07 # you fixed which 22.14.15 # the partial file match 22.14.27 # it still was doing it as of when I wrote my Custom WPS 22.14.38 # yes, I fixed it just now 22.14.43 # oh, OK 22.14.57 # between those two lines up there ;-) 22.17.35 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 22.22.48 # heh 22.29.42 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.53.16 # "If you have an Archos Jukebox, trust me on this: Rockbox is nowhere near competing with Archos for the firmware on this thing. All I want is someone to fix the fucking shuffle on this thing, but no. I installed Rockbox and deleted it almost immediately. It sucked that much. " 22.53.28 # ouch 22.53.29 # from June 22.53.34 # oh 22.53.48 # hard words, but it wasn't that good back then ;-) 22.54.27 # well - even though rockbox is better, you'll hear hard words from people until you provide each and every feature the original firmware has 22.54.34 # true 22.55.13 # and probable even when we do, since then we don't do everything the same way 22.55.39 # well then it's all debatable and not so bad 22.56.01 # it's the same thing with svn - CVS features need to be offered, otherwise people will whine 22.56.15 Join WS64 [0] (~WS64@pD9511AEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.56.21 # I just mean that it is hard to please all users, there will always be those who aren't happy 22.56.24 # Hello :) 22.56.31 # yeah well ofcourse 22.56.31 # hello hello 23.01.40 # Heiko's timings only show a 11% improvement on the player compared to dwihno's 15% on the recorder 23.04.03 # hardeep: will you commit your patch yourself? 23.05.15 >>> "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 23.05.20 >>> "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 23.05.58 Join jsol [0] (~bds@204.156.147.105) 23.06.31 # Yes, unless someone has any problems with it... 23.07.07 # Hey there -- quick question for y'all: i just updated from cvs and built a new .ajz file, and when I turned the power on, I got a blank screen on my recorder. I popped a battery, and now when I power up, i get a shifted, mirror-image screen. any ideas? 23.07.56 # jsol: which model? 23.07.58 # you mean it gets all wrong no matter what you boot into? 23.08.05 # recorder 20 23.08.17 # actually, it's just a recorder 23.08.31 # with a 20G drive, not the new rec20 23.10.03 # okay, wait -- i think i can replicate something 23.10.53 # turn on the jukebox, and play a song. while the song is playing, hold down the off key until the unit powers down. Then turn it on again -- you'll either get a blank screen, or the mirror-image/shifted screen. 23.11.42 # what if you boot with archos firmware? 23.12.13 # does the "mirror-image/shifted screen" remain so all the time until you power off? 23.13.51 # zagor -- i haven't tried booting with the archos firmware, but if i wait a few minutes and reboot, everything returns to normal 23.13.57 # badger -- yes 23.14.12 # para servicio in espanol, marque dos! 23.14.51 # weirdness indeed 23.15.31 # MeRWiN|Work: fix coming up in a minute, for the menu stuff 23.15.46 # okey 23.17.58 # Zagor: you familiar with the menu.c code? 23.18.05 # yes 23.18.49 # ok, in menu_draw() in the beginning of the function, the screen is cleared and then the scroll is stopped 23.19.28 # then the menu is written 23.19.55 # why is the scroll stopped *after* the clean and why isn't just a scroll pause fine? 23.20.14 # the stop puts back the original string 23.20.21 # scroll pause wasn't written when menu.c was 23.20.23 # which messes things up on the player (at least) 23.20.28 Join [-Pft-] [0] (oGo@AVelizy-106-1-4-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.20.30 # aha 23.20.35 # <[-Pft-]> hey guys.. 23.21.04 # hey [-Pft-] 23.21.45 # stop_scroll should definitely be called before clear_screen. a bug, for sure. 23.21.56 # right 23.21.59 # <[-Pft-]> For starters.. I wanted to let all you guys know working on the project.. your firmware kicks arse! Thanks a million for all the hard work.. 23.22.08 # Hi Pft 23.22.12 # but also wasted cpu since it writes text o the screen 23.22.37 # * Bagder sucks up the encouraging words 23.23.29 # [-Pft-]: thanks. we try :-) 23.23.47 # yes, using pause is much better at least in the sim 23.24.34 # Bagder: but menu_draw is only called when scrolling, isn't it? and then scroll_pause makes little sense, since it's a new scroll string anyway? 23.24.48 # <[-Pft-]> Has anyone noticed (maybe I'm a little late on this one) with the recent CVS builds on the player (>4.50) the system crashes on files with around 30 characters.. 23.25.11 # Zagor: the scroll pause mainly prevents the scroll from appearing, that's what I want 23.25.21 # until the next specified string starts scrolling 23.25.29 # [-Pft-]: really? haven't heard that. can you give us a filename? 23.25.41 # Bagder: ok 23.25.43 # <[-Pft-]> example.. hold on one sec.. 23.25.49 # <[-Pft-]> let me fire up the unit.. 23.26.33 # <[-Pft-]> yep.. there it goes.. 23.26.44 # <[-Pft-]> I04:IllInst 23.26.51 # <[-Pft-]> at 73697270 23.26.59 # ouch 23.27.33 # is that the bleeding edge cvs? 23.27.34 # ok, details. what's the filename? 23.27.35 # <[-Pft-]> now let me get you the name of the file.. via USB mode the file works fine.. 23.28.47 # hardeep: I think you should commit your patch, it'll make a lot of people try it out and when we can tweak it from there 23.28.52 # <[-Pft-]> The Tarantino Connection - 02 - Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou 23.28.57 # * dwihno passes the twix bars around 23.29.18 # Badger: just getting setup with sourceforge. will check-in shortly 23.29.32 # * Bagder fetches a twix 23.29.34 # <[-Pft-]> that's with today and yesterday's CVS 23.29.43 # ok 23.30.12 # [-Pft-]: is that "The Tarantino Connection - 02 - Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou.mp3" ? 23.30.19 # * Bagder touched firmware/common/file.c just recently... :-) 23.30.42 # Bagder: hehe 23.30.51 # <[-Pft-]> another example.. Oceanlab Feat. Justine Suissa - Clear Blue Water (Ferry Corstein Remix).mp3 23.30.53 # but I don't think this is my fault 23.31.02 # Bagder: no 23.31.14 # well, it might be my fault but not due to this fix ;-) 23.31.26 # <[-Pft-]> I happen to stumble upon it.. shortening the filename makes it play properly.. 23.32.19 # you notice any particular limit? 23.32.28 # does it crash when you play it, or just show it in the dir browser? 23.32.28 # I mean at which length this starts? 23.33.00 # <[-Pft-]> in the dir browser it's fine.. right when I go to play it.. CRASH!! 23.33.41 # what's the full path? 23.34.30 # <[-Pft-]> I would like to find out exactly at how many characters it needs to be before it crashes.. but I've done it too many times.. Don't wanna put to much wear and tear on the drive.. 23.34.53 # <[-Pft-]> For the oceanlab one.. it's \techno\ 23.34.59 # hehe, I understand 23.35.32 # A techno crash-filter? Sounds cool *hehe* 23.35.51 # <[-Pft-]> the other it's \soundtrack\the tarantino connection\ 23.36.06 # <[-Pft-]> err.. \soundtracks\ 23.36.43 # <[-Pft-]> WS64: I take it your not a big techno fan.. :) 23.37.06 # Techno is what makes the box rock! :D 23.37.49 # <[-Pft-]> yep. 23.37.53 # I can't repeat it :-( 23.37.57 # a little more info: the blank screen on reboot happens every time i turn the player on and off, regardless of whether i'm playing a song. 23.38.03 # Pft, I'm too old for that (born in 64) :) 23.38.59 # <[-Pft-]> no one it too old for techno.. ;) I like all kinds of music.. I have quite a diverse collection.. 23.39.09 # <[-Pft-]> er.. is too old 23.39.30 # <[-Pft-]> Have a hard time typing ... and it's only 11:48pm!! 23.39.43 # :) 23.40.08 # [-Pft-]: ever heard about the group Caramell? :-) 23.40.18 # I have about 60.000 MP3s... And the number of techno files there is <10 (and prolly still too many!) (and same time here in Germany) 23.40.36 # I think the repeat-like-a-madman problem on bad mp3s is gonna be possible on target too 23.40.53 # Bagder: huh? what problem is that? 23.40.57 # <[-Pft-]> umm.. nope.. haven't heard of them dwihno.. 23.41.19 # Zagor: fill a dir with zero-byte mp3 files, press play on one of them... *wroooom* 23.41.32 # next-next-next-next 23.41.34 # forever 23.41.36 # Bagder: ah 23.41.55 # <[-Pft-]> Another thing I noticed.. in the parameters menu.. when skipping down thru the options.. sometimes a character from the line above is carried over to the next line.. 23.42.14 # Zagor: I need to prevent playlist_next() with too high 'steps' number 23.42.27 # compared to the playlisti size 23.42.41 # uhh, silly me I'm testing on recorder. doh! 23.42.45 # pft: right, I'm on to that one 23.42.47 # * Zagor whips out the old player 23.42.51 # <[-Pft-]> dwihno: what kind of music?? 23.43.39 # [-Pft-]: swedish happy dance-pop :) 23.43.50 # about the important stuff in life 23.43.56 # <[-Pft-]> Bagder: ok.. cool.. 23.44.00 # like cellular phones, doctors, and of course - caramelldansen 23.44.10 # <[-Pft-]> oh ok.. 23.44.24 # Talking of Swedish pop, what hapened to Atomic Swing? 23.44.32 # game over? 23.44.34 # <[-Pft-]> I don't know too many swedish bands.. 23.44.43 # <[-Pft-]> actually I can't think of one.. 23.44.43 # abba! ;-) 23.44.51 # ABBA! Ace of base! 23.45.26 # <[-Pft-]> oh really?? ABBA was swedish? and ace of base?? Guess I didn't follow too much of them to know.. 23.45.42 # <[-Pft-]> anybody here like Thievery Corporation? 23.45.51 # Where do the people from greenland get their meat for the burgers? 23.45.57 # From the eski-moo's :-D 23.46.21 # * [-Pft-] is laughing internally.. 23.46.23 # player-menu-scroll-bug-fix committed 23.46.48 # Bagder: Misa want DevCon! 23.46.57 # <[-Pft-]> sweet Bagder.. that was fast! 23.46.57 # DEVCON! DEVCON! DEVCON! *chant* 23.47.09 # pft: I was already on to it 23.47.44 # dwihno: :-) so setup a date and a place and we all bring our Archoses :*) 23.48.02 # DevCon at "Spybar" - Dr. Alban will install Rockbox on all of the visitors' archoses :) 23.48.23 # installfest! ;-) 23.48.31 # yeah, that would be cool :) 23.48.38 # <[-Pft-]> Where is everyone from?? 23.48.48 # Promotional sales of the Rockbox shirts 23.49.02 # and the official Rockbox soundtrack etc. 23.49.04 # Bagder: I am moving somewhere near you...you dont know someone having a room/apartment/whatever somewhere near sthlm? 23.49.08 # * [-Pft-] likes the idea of installfest.. 23.49.17 # pft: from all over really, many swedes but lots of other europeans and americans 23.49.34 # <[-Pft-]> I'm in Paris.. 23.49.45 # Köln, Germany 23.49.51 # [-Pft-]: toujours les baguette - c'est parfait 23.50.00 # ironi: sorry, can't say I do 23.50.15 # WS64: Saufen im der Freie natur mit Rockbox und kartoffelknödels mit sauerkraut 23.50.15 # <[-Pft-]> dwihno: yep.. 23.50.19 # Bagder: ok 23.51.07 # * [-Pft-] will be the provider of baguette's at the installfest 23.51.13 # <[-Pft-]> ;) 23.51.17 # * Bagder laughs 23.51.29 # :D 23.51.38 # [-Pft-]: With saucisson, s'il vous plait! :D 23.51.53 # but none of that french stinky cheese crap pls ;) 23.51.56 # <[-Pft-]> pas de probleme.. 23.51.57 # Thanx for the latest daily builds, resume was what I was missing, now the original firmware is gone till I need to record something (can I rename the firmware file from rockbox so I can reboot with the original firmware?) 23.52.48 # <[-Pft-]> We have a different type of cheese for almost every day of the year.. 23.52.56 # WS64: nope 23.53.19 # WS64: soon we hope to allow running new firmwares straight from within rockbox 23.53.20 # Too bad... Great job anywawy! 23.53.50 # <[-Pft-]> The resume function works great with the latest build.. 23.56.01 # hardeep: will you check in your latest patch, or should I do it? 23.56.10 # hehe 23.56.15 # I already asked him ;-) 23.56.19 # oh, ok :) 23.56.20 # he said he'll do it 23.56.51 # The only thing I don't like, if I just click on "OFF" too short the playback will stop, and if I want to turn off the jukebox and repeat clicking on "OFF" resume is gone... 23.56.52 # "Oh boy! Those Rockbox guys have got something to answer for." 23.56.58 # "My productivity has decreased 80% since I could play Tetris AND listen to music.. " 23.57.21 # Bagder and Hardeep have a secret phone line dedicated for Rockbox development :) 23.57.42 # dwihno: we all have one, all except you ;-) 23.58.02 # AHHH!!!! I have to stay in New Jersey for another day 23.58.03 # :( 23.58.25 # MeRWiN|Work, let's trade...