--- Log for 26.08.102 Server: herbert.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 13 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.31 # Because that editor is currently broken and the installation cd is @work. 00.00.49 # Oops :) 00.00.52 # so use a better, unbroken one :p 00.00.57 # What editor do you use then? 00.01.04 # Installation CD? Sounds like overkill :) 00.01.09 # yeah 00.01.11 # use vim! 00.01.30 # Naaah, emacs %) 00.01.38 # or pico ;) 00.01.39 # PsycoXul: you have a serious vim fixation :) 00.01.49 # MeRWiN: vim is good for you! 00.01.54 # emacs? you wanna talk about overkill? :p 00.02.02 # Currently I use notepad 00.02.02 # dwihno: bah 00.02.02 # I know how to make Kawa save lf only but that's broken now 00.02.16 # PsycoXul: %) <-- nutcase-smiley (unless you've already noticed) ;) 00.02.32 # hehe 00.02.38 # well i'm not even gonna respond to pico :p 00.02.54 # Apropos overkill: does anybody know how to make Visual C++ save only lf? ;) 00.02.58 # PsycoXul: Misa like vim, very mucho! 00.03.08 # Whoa 00.03.18 # T minus 6 hours until it's time to get up again 00.03.22 # Gotta hit the hay 00.03.24 # hehe 00.03.26 Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 00.03.27 # night 00.03.39 # night ppl ;) don't forget to sleep 00.03.53 # what's that? 00.03.57 # MeRWiN: i used to use joe and then one day i decided i better learn how to use vi/vim since it's on like every *nix system, so i did and i ended up loving it :p 00.04.45 # MeRWiN: but i dunno this custom wps line is still blank... 00.05.02 # my wps.config is 00.05.03 # %i/%l %h 00.05.07 # *shrug* 00.05.17 # PsycoXul: that's your problem :) 00.05.30 # PsycoXul: i changed the way that the custom wps file is formatted 00.05.31 # :) 00.05.33 # just a sec 00.05.38 # what's the usage for snprintf? 00.05.40 # well you shoulda changed the doc :p 00.05.47 # PsycoXul: bah humbug 00.07.03 # PsycoXul: try this: %pp/%pe: %fc 00.07.04 # Silly_Fly: something like 00.07.04 # char buf[5]; 00.07.04 # int i = 7; 00.07.04 DBUG Enqueued KICK langhaarrocker 00.07.04 # snprintf(buf, sizeof buf, "%d", i); 00.08.03 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.08.03 # * MeRWiN is doing dreaded expense reports 00.08.56 Quit datazone-work ("I like core dumps") 00.09.47 # Oh, it's midnight. Gotta go hunting some ghosts. 00.09.47 # cu 00.10.06 Part langhaarrocker 00.10.59 # grr... 00.11.27 # why do I get parse error for the line : 00.11.34 # snprintf(plevel,sizeof plevel,"%d",level); 00.11.44 # where pelevel is char[7] 00.11.45 # sizeof(plevel) 00.11.51 # oh.... 00.12.00 # :) 00.12.34 # still.... 00.12.53 # gaah.... i think usb shit locked up again copying the new wps.config 00.13.02 # goddamn why's it fucking do that shit 00.13.08 # PsycoXul: you're using a hacked usb driver... 00.13.23 # whats hacked about my usb driver? 00.13.37 # the jukebox driver for linux is a hack :) 00.13.43 # hows that? 00.15.00 # you're using the driver off of haxx.se, right? 00.15.12 # well its in the kernel 00.15.16 # but yeah 00.15.36 # the webpage says it's a hack of a different driver 00.15.54 # heh 00.16.11 # well yeah it uses the usb storage interface 00.16.33 Quit lithermon ("BitchX-1.0c18 -- just do it.") 00.16.44 # or maybe your computer is just fucked :) 00.17.50 # woo, i sent some peruvian phone booth pictures to 2600 mag :) 00.18.04 # heh 00.18.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.08 # From september 10 last year... I had the unfortunate luck of coming home the morning of september 11 00.19.37 # hmm 00.21.07 # I landed in the houston airport at 8:00am, walked off the plane to see pictures of the world trade center in flames. Now that was a shock 00.22.17 # And I especially loved how they then shut off all the TV monitors in the airport so nobody knew what was going on :P 00.22.53 # at least you had the fortunate luck of getting on the right plane 00.23.09 # fragglet: yes, I agree with you on that one 00.23.11 # defniately 00.23.46 # * PsycoXul tries the non JE usb driver 00.23.56 # JE? 00.24.14 # yeah you know there's 2 UHCI or whatever drivers.. the regular and the JE 00.24.30 # i had it on the JE so i'll try the regular 00.24.45 # ahh 00.25.14 # Anyone here need a $250 Continental Airlines travel certificate? It expires in a little over a month and I can't use it (I do enough traveling for work) 00.25.36 # heh 00.29.12 Join lithermon [0] (j@modem-175.hottie.dialup.pol.co.uk) 00.29.50 # tadadam! 00.31.06 Quit lithermon (Client Quit) 00.31.27 # Silly_Fly: got it working? 00.32.08 # yep. 00.32.14 # and my snake game too... 00.37.51 # *grin* 00.37.56 # I love snake 00.39.09 # just fixin a few more bugs... 00.39.43 Quit PsycoXul ("*sigh*") 00.43.55 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-45-23.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 00.44.43 # PsycoXul: you got bad usb karma 00.45.49 # heh 00.46.04 # well we'll see how the other usb driver works now 00.46.08 # lcd_drawrect is (x,y,height,width) right? 00.47.22 # and height and width should be in pixels, true? 00.47.28 # not a clue 00.47.51 # lcd_drawrect(x,y,width,height) draw a rectangle 00.48.03 # see docs/API 00.48.22 # yeah. I looked at it. 00.48.37 # well i'm looking at it explicitly state exactly what you're asking 00.48.41 # just though it might have changed, since I'm trying to draw a rectangle 00.48.52 # i see 00.48.56 # with height of 2 and width of 4 00.49.03 # and it comes out way bigger.... 00.49.14 # Notice that the smallest vertical resolution in updates that the 00.49.15 # hardware supports is even 8 pixels. 00.49.36 # thats for lcd_update_rect i dunno how it applies to lcd_drawrect ... 00.50.28 # well, I'll just use fillrect 00.50.39 # that one seems to work fine.. :) 00.50.45 # ok :p 00.51.03 # people need to do more coding for the player! 00.51.34 # apparently it's so lacking in the games department somebody's ported my shittly old beginning of one [from pre-rockbox] to rockbox 00.52.53 # hah 00.53.11 # It's hard to code games for the player 00.54.11 # not really 00.54.44 # what kind of games would you make, other than text adventures? :) 00.54.58 # doom 00.55.02 # haha 00.55.08 # text adventure would suck without keyboard and only 22 chars showed at once 00.55.12 # heh 00.55.28 # MeRWiN: well stupid little one i did 00.55.35 # you're a triangle that runs around a maze 00.55.36 # that's not a joke. i have seen a bsp engine on a C=64 00.55.39 # and finds the exit 00.56.54 # freshmaker; yes, but this is a 2 line text-only display 00.57.05 # PsycoXul: kind of a boring game, huh? 00.57.11 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-197-244.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.57.12 # yeah 00.57.18 # especialy with only 1 hard-coded level 00.57.19 # ah, sorry. thought about the recorder... 00.58.03 # MeRWiN: so uh whats the thing for the old %h or whatever? 00.58.13 # what did %h do? 00.58.19 # eh? 00.58.29 # well i tried the config you sent me and that works... 00.58.34 # yeah 00.58.38 # what did %h do though? 00.58.43 # but i want it Name - Artist instead of Artist - Name remember? :p 00.58.49 # oooh 00.58.49 # well, my snake is almost ready to be released.... 00.58.57 # Silly_Fly: keep your snake in your pants 00.59.06 # :p 00.59.21 # try %fd... i'd look at the wps.c code to be sure, but I think that's it 01.02.48 # and you know i'd rather have Track/Album when available, Track/Artist if no album, dir-parsed Track/Album if no id3, and filename if dirs can't be parsed :p 01.03.30 # i'm working on that :) 01.04.07 # yay (o: 01.04.40 # i suppose i should rewrite my little game to be a little more interesting and load levels from disk and such like that... 01.04.48 # PsycoXul: yup 01.05.20 # and for that i'd want to delve into the pattern defining code... 01.05.27 # you know, for custom graphics :p 01.06.18 # he 01.06.19 # h 01.08.05 # but before i can get into any of that i need to finish some silly potential new technology that probably won't be.... 01.12.25 # whoopy! 01.12.36 # my snake is done! 01.14.22 # PsycoXul: excuse me? 01.15.52 # oh well i was researching various "supressed technologies" last year and at one point in about december a few concepts connected in my head and i came up with this new thing similar to one i read about, which then triggered the recollection of a dream i had several years ago and had never remembered till then 01.16.47 # an extremely long and involved dream with a timespan of many years, a broad scope of events, and all entirely centered around this technology 01.17.03 # all of which are rather unusual aspects for a dream, to me 01.17.43 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.18.05 # and so i'm building :p 01.18.54 # hehe... what technology is that? 01.19.10 # well it's entirely new 01.19.23 # in the dream i was basically at the place that i am now in real life 01.19.32 # and doing the things i'm doing now... 01.19.49 # all of which was like entirely unforseeable at the time when i actualy had the dream :p 01.20.13 # and i sorta stumbled onto some principle that's been sortof discovered already but not really recognized 01.20.28 # and made the first really practical implimentation 01.20.55 # and that sets in motion a lot of crazy shit in the world 01.21.08 # because it's more powerful and flexible than anything ever developed on earth so far 01.21.12 # good crazy shit? 01.21.15 # it equalized ever human on earth 01.21.22 # obsoleted government, commerce, .... 01.21.54 # you've been smokin' the really good shit, haven't you? :-) 01.21.58 # j/ 01.21.59 # k 01.22.22 # hehe 01.22.27 # yes! 01.23.02 # man, my computer is dragging.... I'm installing linux on VMWare 01.24.00 # and i did in the dream too 01.24.00 # which was odd cause i didn't think i've smoke any shit ever at the time in my life when i had the dream :p 01.24.00 # heh 01.24.26 # but yeah things are happening slightly different from the dream 01.24.51 # you had no rockbox in the dream 01.24.56 # which i'm glad for because in the dream i got busted and locked away for a long time 01.25.01 # MeRWiN: yes i did 01.25.08 # hmm? 01.25.09 # except when i got busted they took it away from me :? 01.25.11 # :/ even 01.25.50 # yeah i was dumb enough to show it to the pigs and go "hey isn't this silly, i've got a song on here thats illegal!" and played this song i got that's got the DeCSS source in song-form 01.25.54 # and then they confiscated it 01.26.07 # hahaha 01.26.20 # and i was all like "you're kidding!!! no!!!" 01.26.49 # this must have been fairly recent dream then 01.26.54 # no 01.26.54 # if it had decss 01.27.16 # it was like... 01.27.56 # heh 01.28.09 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.28.12 # well like i said, the dream had a lot of things from the current reality 01.28.19 # that were entirely unforseeable at the time i had the dream 01.28.33 # it was several years ago though 01.28.36 # i was in 6th or 7th grade 01.28.42 # and i'm 21 now... 01.28.50 # 10 years ago? hmm 01.29.07 # go work on that shit :) 01.29.11 # whatever it is 01.29.12 # hehe :p 01.29.39 # yeah but this time i'll finish it before i get into some other things 01.29.44 # bye 01.29.46 # which should mean that i won't get busted 01.29.48 # bye fly 01.29.50 Part Silly_Fly 01.29.54 # and so the outcome should be different 01.30.01 # you know, if any of this shit's any more than me being crazy :p 01.30.05 # yeah, dont' get busted 01.30.24 # so is this easy shit to do, or hard shit? 01.30.24 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 01.30.35 # i didn't intend for humanity to actualy get ahold of this technology and go off advancing with it... 01.30.50 # but when i got locked away in a metal box 01.31.20 # well somehow i set some things in motion that let it out prior to being locked away, which all went ahead while i was in 01.31.43 # and so i got out an indeterminable amount of time later and the world was completely changed 01.31.51 # MeRWiN: easy 01.31.56 # MeRWiN: it's all so simple 01.31.57 # go do it :P 01.32.03 # and it changed *everything* 01.32.13 # it replaced every single bit of technology we've developed so far 01.32.27 # so what was this? 01.32.37 # from the simplest to things far beyond what we can do now 01.32.54 # even the materials of clothing and homes and etc were generated via this technology 01.34.08 # MeRWiN: i think it's basically the ultimate electromagnetic device 01.34.30 # something to do with resonance and the wave properties of everything 01.35.38 # hmm... definately look into this 01.36.26 # yeah 01.36.36 # imagine an electromagnetic windmill so to speak 01.37.24 # all it takes is a certain arrangement and alignment and you start an endothermic process 01.37.38 Quit freshmaker (Remote closed the connection) 01.37.42 # that continues as long as there's energy in the surrounding environment 01.38.32 # it's just channeling the massive amounts of energy that permeates our reality :p 01.38.50 # slightly above my head, but i get the idea 01.39.04 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 01.39.09 # no damnit 01.39.12 # it's so simple 01.39.14 # gah... 01.39.14 # heh 01.39.20 # MeRWiN: that was one of the things in the dream 01.39.27 # heya woos 01.39.28 # wood 01.39.29 # that motivates me to not let it follow the same course if this shit's real 01.39.30 # sorry 01.39.42 # the fact that the population were all educated as to this technology's mechanism 01.39.45 # and it was all dead simple principles 01.39.53 # hi MeRWiN 01.39.56 # and yet nobody really got it except a select few of elite researches 01.40.25 # hmm 01.40.41 # and that was not only frustrating 01.40.46 # anyone around that has looked at the i2c low devel drivers? 01.40.56 # trying to get these people to understand simple principles that even life itself is based on somehow 01.40.58 # level 01.41.19 # rwood: not me, said the fela 01.41.20 # flea 01.41.24 # but also dangerous, because it put humanity back into a situation similar to centralized government again 01.41.44 # but this time nobody had any conception of revolution or anything like that 01.42.04 # PsycoXul: well, if this doesn't become a reality, it would make a damn good movie at least 01.42.14 # yeah i think so too :p 01.42.35 # thats at least the nice thing about my crazyness.. if i do just turn out to be crazy, i can at least make a lot of good entertainment out of it 01.42.43 # *grin* 01.42.51 # kindof a convenient fallback :p 01.43.29 # yup 01.44.16 # and of course i'm the only one i know who's first fallbacks for what they do with their life is a professional music and/or movie career :p 01.44.56 # hah 01.45.21 # but the way i see it 01.45.25 # if something's possible 01.45.33 # then why can't it be possible NOW 01.46.18 # you know, nobody's idea of a utopian super-advanced future for humanity's ever gonna come about with people just sitting around waiting for it to happen :p 01.46.45 Quit rwood () 01.46.49 # I just want to live through the next 50 years personally :) 01.48.48 # yeah but how will everybody working on rockbox feel if suddenly some weird guy creates technology that obsoletes electronics ... :p 01.49.41 # I'm sure that rockbox will become a novelty item like the atari or something :) 01.50.02 # hehe 01.50.08 # not really... 01.50.21 # people'd use this technology to create a new class of devices 01.50.41 # or there'd at least be a rockbox emulator somewhere 01.50.44 # that have audio capabilities beyond anything out yet, including professional stuff 01.51.08 # it'd be sortof opposite of mp3 suddenly 01.51.36 # instead of having space and processing limitations such that people develop psychoacoustic models to save only the information that people actualy hear 01.52.00 # they'll have devices that record, process, and store every tiny bit of audio information present 01.52.05 # things that *nothing* can hear :p 01.52.16 # but then what's the point, if you can't hear it? 01.52.38 # analysis for a start 01.53.02 # not to mention that things you can't hear do have effects on the things you can 01.54.01 # and the fact that you percieve more than you know you do 01.54.02 # heh 01.54.20 # I think this would be a major disappointment, because the instant all of this came out, Microsoft would go steal and copyright everything and make everyone pay licensing fees :) 01.54.31 # hehe 01.54.37 # well 01.54.43 Join marvincbr [0] (marvincbr@12-250-191-213.client.attbi.com) 01.54.57 # all it takes is basically info i've already given various people at various times so far 01.55.05 # and that won't even be possible 01.55.18 # i mean people all over the world were building these things in their garages 01.55.34 # and forming communities of open information exchange and rapidly advancing the techniques 01.55.44 # like linux 01.55.51 # yeah 01.55.58 # except at some point in the dream something went wrong somehow 01.56.10 # an establishment was formed dedicated to the research and development of the technology 01.56.15 # all well intentioned of course 01.56.25 # but it ended up having a hierarchy of knowledge 01.56.33 # with the general populace at the bottom lacking a real understanding 01.57.06 # and different levels unnecssarily using empiricism in their specific tasks, also lacking understanding of certain fundamentals 01.57.35 # i mean for some reason people were often afraid to even talk about the romours of what the top teams were doing 01.57.47 # and thats not the way it should be 01.58.04 # they're secretly talking about soilent green. 01.58.09 # it's people... 01.58.17 # and what was also weird 01.58.33 # is that i was like outside of their whole social structure 01.59.33 # everybody knew i was responsible for getting the ball rolling, but nobody saw it as significant.. like i was just some bumbling idiot who stumbled upon this thing that somebody else would've done eventualy if i hadn't 01.59.48 # but their knowledge hierarchy didn't apply to me or anything 01.59.58 # hmm 02.00.03 # it was like i could do as i please and nobody cared 02.00.03 # * MeRWiN needs to go home. 02.00.07 # it was weird 02.00.08 # anyways 02.00.11 # can some1 answer a question about the daily builds for me? 02.00.15 # yeah i'm talking way too much about all this :p 02.00.17 # sure 02.00.42 # soon i'll finish making it and i'll see it doesn'tn really do anything and i guess i'll start on a book or something :p heh 02.00.50 # or a movie 02.00.59 # well a book'll come first 02.01.15 # there's too much for a movie i think 02.01.21 # i have rockbox 1.2 installed if i install the newest daily build is that just an updated version? 02.01.24 # it'd need to get all put down and organized first 02.01.52 # marvincbr: it's the latest version since the last formal release 02.02.00 # marvincbr: some things probably won't work that well, but most should 02.02.19 # marvincbr: if you're not having problems with 1.2, then I wouldn't do the current one yet. 1.3 is coming out very soon 02.02.26 # does it have all the improvements of the earlier builds 02.02.57 # marvincbr: it includes all improvements, and more... You can always try it, and if you don't like it go back to 1.2 02.03.05 # no probs just like some of the improvements of the builds 02.03.27 # marvincbr: then definately give it a shot 02.03.36 # marvincbr: it won't kill your system (probably) :-) 02.03.42 # so the latest has everything\ 02.03.46 # marvincbr: yup 02.03.51 # just rename to archos.mod? 02.03.58 # marvincbr: yuop 02.04.02 # thank you for your help 02.04.06 # no problem 02.04.18 # * MeRWiN is leaving for home. I'll be back in an hour or os 02.04.22 # s/os/so 02.04.53 Quit MeRWiN () 02.18.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.22.31 Quit marvincbr () 02.24.05 Join lithermon [0] (j@modem-759.grommet.dialup.pol.co.uk) 02.25.11 # hello do any linuxers out there know the kernel options i need to get my jbr20 connected ? 02.26.25 # Note 2: The In-System ISD-300 chip (05ab/0060) is a fully USB Mass Storage compliant chip, and therefore does not require a special driver. Just plug it in. If you want to take advantage of its' USB2.0 functionality (and you have a USB2.0 controller), you need toadd USB2.0 support to your kernel. Otherwise it works just fine in USB1.1 mode too. 02.26.42 # usb-storage 02.27.04 # just the usb ? 02.27.22 # i think i need scsi as well 02.27.36 # yeah 02.27.41 # or scsi emulation? 02.27.45 # no 02.27.53 # scsi "emulation"s just for ATAPI devices 02.28.13 # oh right so just scsi and usb 02.28.25 # i have been going round in circles all night 02.30.54 # one time i got it right and it said you have forgotten to put in vfat support in the kernel - doh 02.31.08 # hehe 02.31.51 # so do i need the isd200 bit or do i have isd300 which dosent need it ? 02.32.13 # also i should choose ohci right ? 02.32.35 # jbr20's have isd300 afaik 02.32.50 # choose whatever usb driver's appropriate for your system 02.34.20 # ok, making, thanks psyc 02.34.33 # i hope this is the one 02.35.30 # yeah, just enable scsi, usb, usb-storage and the ISD200 driver - it will handle ISD300 as well 02.36.26 Join ETD [0] (~chatzilla@209-193-14-38-dial-ha1.sol.acsalaska.net) 02.40.11 Quit ETD ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 02.49.00 Quit lithermon ("[BX] The best part of waking up is BitchX in your cup") 03.29.08 Join nunya [0] (~me@ny-utica2c-47.aburny.adelphia.net) 03.31.59 Join lithermon [0] (j@modem-821.banzai.dialup.pol.co.uk) 03.32.28 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 03.32.34 # yoyo 03.32.44 # hmm... MASH marathon or Law & Order marathon?? 03.32.45 # ... 03.32.50 # Law & Order definately 03.33.16 # i say MASH 03.33.39 # Yeah, it's really debateable... maybe i' 03.33.43 # i'll watch half of both 03.33.55 # watch both at once 03.34.07 # * MeRWiN only has 1 tv 03.34.57 # hmm well i havent ever heard of law and order anyway 03.35.07 # that's a shame 03.35.14 # so i guess you can make your own choices 03.35.55 # got questions... loaded up the 0824 mod on my jukebox... no more resume... I also have one folder I can navigate into - but it doesn't show me the other folder inside of it. 03.41.55 # build kernel build 03.42.43 # lithermon: I can't believe that Law & Order hasn't come to the UK... 03.43.28 # i think the uk lags behind in tv 03.44.07 # we are on the 2nd (i think) series of the simpsons 03.44.29 # i miss sky 03.45.18 # lithermon: Law & Order has been around for like 10 years. There's like 4 other spinoffs on the show also (also with the same name). And they all rock :) 03.46.01 # lithermon - build kernel build??? i'm confroozed 03.46.02 # hmmm maybe its not suitable for uk audience 03.46.19 # nunya i am building a kernel 03.46.23 # and its takin ages 03.46.38 # ahhhh... i thought you were answering my questions... sorry 03.46.58 # so does anyone have any answers? 03.47.00 # heh sorry 03.47.12 # it was an outburst of desperateness 03.47.16 # LOL 03.47.39 # this is the 8th one 03.48.18 Quit lithermon ("brb i have a new kernel to try") 03.51.48 Join lithermon [0] (j@modem-210.munger.dialup.pol.co.uk) 03.52.16 # yay it works im soooooo happy 03.52.41 # mount /dev/sda1 /jb woohoo 03.53.01 # congrats 03.53.21 # thank you it took long enough :) 03.53.40 # what, your kernel take longer than 3 minutes to compile or something? :p 03.54.18 # well 5min i spose i been drinkng cider though 03.54.59 # 5min = 60 cider mins 03.55.06 # heh 03.55.52 # now i hav to sort out this sh compiling 03.56.16 # that will take like 30 cider hours 04.10.36 # how do you do a netconfig in X? 04.14.16 # i have no idea 04.14.31 # what are you trying to do ? 04.14.32 # ok, any clue how to configure a network card? 04.15.22 # hmm ithink you need to find out what card it is 04.15.35 # It detects the card fine, I just need to set up dhcp :) 04.16.04 # most distro's have their own way to set that crap up 04.16.28 # i havent used a nic for like 2 years 04.16.48 #