--- Log for 29.08.102 Server: lerouge.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 18 hours and 49 minutes ago 00.00.16 # yes. because hiding it is not removing it. 00.00.21 # right.. 00.00.28 # i didn't say i was looking to remove it :) 00.00.43 # i just dont need the options listed 00.00.50 # I don't feel right about just hiding things. It's got that Microsoft feel... 00.00.54 # why not a option in the general for to view or not to 00.00.56 # and assume im a dumb user that don't need all our features... 00.01.16 # adi has a point 00.01.18 # the default won't hide anything... 00.01.27 # its up to you to change the config if you want. 00.01.41 # but then again, adi, there arent very many dumb users using this :) 00.01.48 # * adi|home points out that he is playing devils advocate for ppl like his brother in law 00.01.54 # not yet 00.01.57 # i still don't see the point. it will mess up the code, for what use? i refuse to cater to idiots. 00.02.06 # plus how many people are dumb enough to not use those settings? 00.02.24 # and come on...if you are dumb, then why need to hide it 00.02.25 # not to sound stupid diddy.. but frankly.. fuck you 00.02.29 # im not 'dumb' 00.02.33 # im tone deaf 00.02.41 # adi...if you explained the point of hiding these settings, it might help 00.02.42 # so playing with bass and treble on my unit is pointless. 00.02.45 # no need for personal attacks 00.02.48 # * diddystar5 slaps adi|home around a bit with a TCL powered popup 00.02.52 # When it comes down to hiding and showing things: In fact I'd like completely different configurations when recording then when playing back. -> Just hiding and showing stuff might not be enough. 00.02.57 # so just ignore it adi 00.02.59 # not a big deal 00.03.41 # Jet8810: i agree.. i just get annoyed when ppl jump in with comments about reasons that were already stated.. and are insulting in doing so.. 00.03.45 # there is an obvious bug in the loadable font code, it doesn't care for the single letter widths properly 00.03.53 # * Bagder is digging 00.04.11 # Bagder: yes, i've noticed :-) prop fonts look, ehrm, funny... 00.04.30 # we need the formats documented 00.04.33 # yaay 1.3 you have over taken the archos firmware v1.28 :)) 00.04.36 # this is somewhat stupid 00.04.46 # except recording..... 00.04.55 # btw, i kno bookmarking has been mentioned, but is there really any easy way to create temporary playlists or really isnt worth it? 00.04.56 # Bagder: agreed 00.05.06 # on nomad jukebox i had that, but os was COMPLETELY different 00.05.21 # Jet8810: once when we can write files, it'll be dead easy 00.05.22 # Jet8810: it's very easy, once I write the necessary fat code 00.05.30 # awesome 00.05.40 # just like hite a button combo to queue and song or album/folder? 00.06.09 # so now, is figuring out how to write to disk very hard? 00.07.03 # no, but it's still a good chunk of work 00.07.18 # right 00.07.22 # now THAT would be awesome 00.07.38 # before you kno wit, archos will be THE mp3 choice all because of you guys! 00.07.53 # :) 00.07.59 # :) 00.08.06 # >:) 00.08.10 # hmm 00.08.20 # are there any other open source firmwares for other mp3 players 00.08.24 # yes 00.08.29 # .....do tell 00.08.42 # the neo i know 00.08.46 # you can 00.08.52 # thats all i know 00.09.12 # I realized that the Rio RIOT is 20gb and same price as archos, and I was weighing which one to reccomend to a friend the other day actually 00.09.36 # what the riot i 20 gig? 00.09.46 # rio is more user friendly at this point, but not standard usb storage, no open source, ect, but really good software and cool hardware design and larger screen 00.09.52 # the rio riot 00.11.05 # we all hate yet love are archos :) 00.11.16 # hehe 00.11.16 # i know 00.11.21 # well miine cost me $70 00.11.29 # what? 00.11.29 # so i am not complaining at all 00.11.35 # 20gb studio for $70 :) 00.11.38 # what model? 00.11.44 # damn 00.11.47 # bestbuy warrantee, paid $230 for nomad 6gb jukebox a year ago 00.11.51 # ebay? 00.11.52 # just paid $70 to upgrade 00.12.05 # so i really paid $300, but sure didnt feel like it :) 00.12.20 # rio riot btw http://www.sonicblue.com/audio/rio/rio_riot.asp 00.12.31 # i paid 220$ for my archos 5 gig and 40$ for 4 yearwarrenty at best buy >:) 00.12.48 # hehe 00.12.59 # so why dont you upgrade to 20 gb? 00.13.19 # whoa, rio riot has radio too hehe 00.14.13 # btw: what would someone sell a used 20 gig hd from a archos for? 00.14.18 # o cool! 00.14.24 # no no no 00.14.27 # bestbuy warrantee 00.14.41 # if somethin gis malfunctioned, you can pay dicvfference and upgrade to higher model 00.14.46 # no my warrenty cover everything :) 00.14.52 # so **assuming*** if breaks hehe 00.14.59 # and anything! 00.15.06 # so does mine 00.15.10 # you can upgrade and still be covered 00.15.10 # lol 00.15.15 # yep! 00.15.25 # thank god for best buy1 00.15.44 # haha i know 00.16.14 # so how much would a 20 gig used sell for? 00.16.33 # just hd 00.18.30 # i dont know 00.18.36 # i remember there is a way to buy it from fujitsu though 00.18.41 # read a review of how to upgrade it 00.18.41 # but 00.18.55 # why dont you just ugprade the entire player through bestbuy (if its cheaper)? 00.19.40 # i might im looking at prices 00.20.05 # yea 00.20.55 # im looking at ebay i see some for under 40$ 00.21.09 # nice 00.21.15 # do you think they have capacities bigger then 20gb? 00.21.39 # there are a few 00.21.54 # same size? 00.22.03 # make sure height is right too 00.22.04 # yep 00.22.08 # awesome 00.22.09 # url? 00.22.11 # 2.5 8.5 00.22.41 # go to ebay.com and search hard drive 00.22.53 # cool 00.24.01 # i've always been carefull around ebay though it's a strange place 00.24.04 # hmm 00.24.05 # lol 00.24.11 # i am swamped with fiull sized ide ones :) 00.24.39 # lol 00.24.45 # bed time. see you tomorrow 00.24.46 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 00.25.52 # 20gb is ifne with me 00.25.58 # i only have 11 gigs or so of mp3s anyhow 00.26.21 # i have 6 gigs 00.26.43 # plus alot of files i want to store on my unit 00.30.23 # right 00.30.33 # i think I am going to archive all my ISOs and such too 00.31.37 # so then I have a backup on another hard drive which I disconnect when not in use 00.31.38 # and archos 00.31.44 # there ya go, cant get very much safer then that :) 00.32.12 Join diddystar5|onlin [0] (LeePilgrim@208-149-64-53.ppp.nexband.com) 00.32.20 # mt isp failed 00.32.31 # hate that 00.33.33 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.34.28 # now how do i get my offline name off? 00.34.37 # * diddystar5|onlin slaps diddystar5 around a bit with a TCL powered popup 00.34.44 # it dies in a while 00.34.53 # ok 00.36.07 # or ya can ghost it 00.36.16 # if you have it registered, of course 00.36.20 Quit sylvr (Remote closed the connection) 00.39.15 # hey jet this is funny http://www.pillowpillow.com/ipodfirstaid 00.39.15 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.39.36 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-178-197.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.40.40 # hey jet http://www.pillowpillow.com/ipodfirstaid 00.42.26 # heh 00.43.19 # poor ipod RIP 00.43.26 # haha 00.43.31 # whatcha think of ipod? 00.43.35 # i think its slick, but far too pricey 00.44.28 # i think its awsome but way pricy 00.45.05 # yea 00.45.08 # 20gb is 500 00.45.47 # WHAT? 500$? 00.47.35 # ooo yep for the ipod 00.48.59 Quit lithermon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.49.05 # but it has a very good screen and very good internal software 00.49.22 # and i tink its smaller than the archos 00.51.29 Join bmidy [0] (bmidy@AMetz-101-1-2-63.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.51.34 # hi 00.51.38 # salut a tous 00.52.05 # huh? 00.52.06 # j ai des pb sous debian 2.4.18 avec ohci : eci-load1 et eci-load2 passent a merveille 00.52.11 # speek american! 00.52.20 # yes 00.52.29 # I get some difficulties under debain 00.52.35 # copul u help me 00.52.40 # i try 00.52.51 # i m under debbian with kernel 2.4.18 00.53.03 # the eci-load1 and eci-load2 pass succesfulz 00.53.34 # then I get an error : usb_control/bulk_msg failed ... 00.53.34 # humm talk to badger 00.53.39 # modem hangup 00.53.46 # is he present nopw 00.54.15 # are you trying to do usb 1.1? 00.54.28 # yes 00.54.36 # i have to go for a bit 00.54.37 # euh I,ve the both usb1.1 onbaord 00.54.41 Quit diddystar5|onlin ("bye!") 00.54.44 # and a usb 2.0 card 00.54.56 # so, which do you want to use? 00.55.10 # usb2 requires a kernel patch if you run 2.4.18 00.55.12 # but the modem is connected to the usb1.1 onboard usb adaptor 00.55.52 # but as i said the eci-load1 and eci-load2 pass succesfully ! 00.56.07 # what are that? 00.56.12 # so what is the problem, do u get similar problem, 00.56.15 # no 00.56.25 # I've used both 1.1 and 2.0 with my toy 00.56.36 # on 2.4.17 and 2.418 00.56.55 # do you use the UHCI usb driver? 00.57.02 # hm 00.57.07 # what archos do you have? 00.57.09 # but the error : "usb_control/bulk_msg failed ..." do u know anything abbout it 00.57.25 Quit diddystar5 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.57.26 # how do u know I've archos 00.57.36 # I get the archos 2.0 usb card 00.57.37 # why are you here otherwise? 00.58.13 # sorry I m confuse I come in the bad group, sorry 00.58.15 # bye 00.58.20 # ? 00.58.34 # au revoir 00.59.41 # oui aurevoir 00.59.43 Part bmidy 01.03.37 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.04.27 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-178-197.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.11.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.26.35 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.27.15 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-178-197.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.27.59 Quit Jet8810 (Client Quit) 01.35.02 Join diddystar5 [0] (LeePilgrim@208-149-64-47.ppp.nexband.com) 01.35.22 # mesa back 01.40.05 # good 4 you 01.41.44 # haha 01.44.18 # don't be a butt 01.44.42 # too late 01.44.53 # * diddystar5 slaps datazone-work around a bit with a TCL powered popup 01.45.04 # now thats pretty lame 01.45.10 # * diddystar5 slaps datazone-work around a bit with a TCL powered popup 01.45.26 # i think i will leave now 01.45.43 # good 4 you 01.46.07 Quit datazone-work ("BOOM!") 01.46.26 # harhar yer still here 01.46.49 # * diddystar5 has quit ("bye") 01.47.37 # * diddystar5 wispers in the dark "i see deap people"! 01.48.55 # * diddystar5 slaps datazone around a bit with a TCL powered popup 01.50.12 # people lose things 01.50.25 # notes, keys, data 01.50.36 # guess which ine i lost today? 01.50.42 # *one 01.59.14 Part Bagder 02.01.06 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 02.32.04 Quit datazone (Remote closed the connection) 02.45.58 # im going bye bye 02.46.01 Quit diddystar5 ("bye!") 03.00.18 Join datazone [0] ([5AZfLRjdM@207.136.36.203) 03.11.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.29.39 Quit pimlottc ("leaving") 03.31.19 Join pimlottc [0] (~pimlottc@a1-1b012.neo.rr.com) 03.37.58 Join merwin|shower [0] (merwin@1Cust54.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 03.38.07 # grr, more bad connections 03.38.09 Nick merwin|shower is now known as merwin (merwin@1Cust54.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 03.43.32 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 03.50.26 # grr 03.58.01 Join ecHs [0] (~exxe@p508B133D.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.59.27 # hello? 04.00.22 # anyone got some .bdf files already converted to .ajf ? 04.02.34 # not me 04.03.04 # i just got no unix to compile 04.03.13 # ahh 04.03.32 # why arent they putting the ajf files on the site? 04.04.04 # that is a good question... I will pose it to them when they get in (in a few hours) 04.04.23 # loadable fonts are part of version 1.3, right? 04.04.29 # k thanks.. i'll stop by later 04.04.40 # i hope so ;) 04.04.54 # stop back in a few hours 04.04.55 # :) 04.05.21 # ^_^ 04.05.29 # i drank too much last nite ;) 04.05.44 # hehe... 04.07.12 # merwin: loadable fonts aren't in 1.3 04.08.12 Nick kjsdnll is now known as mecraw (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) 04.08.44 # mecraw: ahh, that might be why there aren't any on the site 04.09.00 # although, there probably should be some fonts somewhere 04.09.33 Join ddb [0] (~dbinder@ool-4350316a.dyn.optonline.net) 04.10.41 # just tried 1.3 - does anyone know if it supports the customizable WPS 04.10.58 # ddb: yes, if compiled with it enabled :) 04.11.30 # can I have that compiled version, pretty please?? 04.12.06 # ddb: hold on a couple minutes and i'll send you the test version i'm working on. It's stable and all. 04.12.17 # cool, thanks 04.12.34 # what kind of lcd do you have (player-old or player) 04.12.38 # player-old 04.12.44 # k, thought so :) 04.13.15 # any reason why 1.3 doesn't come with it compiled already since it was working on the last daily build? 04.13.28 # ddb: it isn't working on the daily builds 04.13.36 # ddb: I sent you a modified version with it enabled 04.14.17 # Oh, ok...I didn't seem to have any problems wit the version you sent me :) 04.14.42 # by the way, the custom wps file has changed a bit... it's now two lines. The first line scrolls, the second line doesn't. A good second line would be: %pc/%pt (just displays the time) 04.14.52 # in the version that i'm sending you at least 04.15.24 # i'm compiling it for you now, what's the e-mail address again? 04.15.28 # you planning on changing the scrolling behavior? 04.15.36 # dbinder@optonline.net 04.15.44 # pimlottc: yeah, that's the next thing on my list. A tag to define which line to scroll 04.15.54 # cool. 04.16.00 # pimlottc: that'll be working within the hour i think 04.16.02 # can't wait 04.16.34 # pimlottc: although I sorta rewrote the wps now... so i'll have to run it by zagor and them before i commit it 04.16.53 # * pimlottc nods 04.16.59 # ok easy question tho 04.17.20 # what do you have to do to add a file to the makefile 04.17.46 # you don't add anything... you #include it inside of a different file :) 04.17.57 # the file that you're calling the function from 04.18.11 # eh 04.18.12 # 30 unread messages in the last 4 hours 04.18.23 # that's not really optimal tho 04.18.43 # then i dunno :) 04.20.43 # Ripley's believe it or not: A man dislocating his jaw to try to jam in 16 hotdogs at once 04.20.45 # * pimlottc is not well versed in makefiles 04.21.21 # me neither 04.21.29 # ddb: ok, sent it. remember, now it has 2 lines :) 04.22.21 # i assume first line of config controls first line of display and same for 2nd 04.22.24 # I just received, thanks, I'll let you know how it goes. 04.22.41 # k 04.22.43 # :) 04.22.57 Quit ddb () 04.23.27 # hehe: Complete your Membership The credit card to which 04.23.27 # we sent the Member Number was added to your PayPal account on 04.23.27 # 28 July 2002, and ends in 2702 04.36.00 Join h0bby [0] (Hobby@h24-83-178-201.vf.shawcable.net) 04.56.24 Join nunya [0] (~me@ny-utica2c-47.aburny.adelphia.net) 04.56.58 # 1.3!!!! Yeeha!! Too bad I can't get 1.2 or anything to work on my player tho!! HELP!! 05.00.52 # what's happening? 05.02.22 # nunya: you there? :) 05.04.29 # yup... i'm back... hadda go dry my eyes.. was cryin again... ;) 05.04.54 # nothing.. zzip.... put archos.mod on player in root... still only get archos 4.53 firmmware display 05.05.18 # which one are you downloading? player or player-old 05.05.23 # player 05.06.08 # just for curiosity, try player-old 05.06.16 # ko... brb!!! 05.06.50 # you do rename it to archos.mod, right? 05.11.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.11.47 # yupper 05.12.00 # hang on.. still trying.. technical difficulties here... 05.13.16 # :) 05.18.31 # noper ... nothing 05.20.45 # ok... im off ta bed... try this again 2morrow... later! 05.21.11 Quit nunya () 05.42.54 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.54.04 Quit merwin () 06.02.46 Join merwin|shower [0] (merwin@1Cust12.tnt20.tpa2.da.uu.net) 06.17.09 # Anyone here want to test out custom wps on the recorder? 06.17.24 Nick merwin|shower is now known as merwin (merwin@1Cust12.tnt20.tpa2.da.uu.net) 06.17.33 # sure 06.17.48 # mecraw: dcc or e-mail? 06.18.24 # can i also get a copy? 06.18.29 # try dcc 06.18.35 # ok 06.18.39 # it may not work though :) 06.18.44 # the build may not work i mean 06.19.00 # didnt test it? 06.19.09 # i don't have a recorder... it works fine on the player though 06.19.33 # i'm on a 14.4 internet connection right now... slow 06.19.48 # i can tell :) 06.20.00 # no need for sleep ;) 06.20.03 # i can wait 06.20.13 # ecHs: done :) 06.20.22 # in germany its already 6am :) 06.21.08 # err, mecraw it's done 06.21.21 # what config file do i need to create? 06.21.43 # merwin.. im behiond some kind of fw.. try mail@xenhq.net 06.21.54 # mecraw: wps.config in the root folder... i'll send you a copy of it 06.22.03 # k 06.22.14 # thx 06.22.18 # any reason there is not a lcd_putc? 06.22.56 # pimlottc: dunno 06.24.10 # ecHs: lets see if it even works at all, then i'll send it to you :) 06.24.16 # would be handy 06.24.27 # mecraw: test out each of the wps settings please (if it works at all) 06.24.35 # pimlottc: i was thinking the same 06.24.49 # merwin: i got used to betas 06.24.59 # ;) 06.25.17 # ecHs: heh... this is pre-alpha :) 06.25.34 # testing 2 line wps? 06.25.39 # sounds like some real 'fun' :) 06.25.47 # pimlottc: excuse me? 06.26.05 # ecHs: if it works, then it'll work perfectly i think... it's not that much different than the code for the player, which does work 06.26.08 # are you testing out the 2 line wps with echs 06.26.18 # pimlottc: custom wps, for recorder 06.26.18 # it looks like he is testing something 06.26.23 # ah cool 06.26.32 # pimlottc: mecraw is seeing if it works, then i'll send it ot echs if it does 06.26.50 # merwin: can you send me that mail now? i'm getting nervous :) 06.26.57 # heh... k. 06.27.18 # same deal, copy the .config file to the root 06.27.18 # muchos gracias 06.27.29 # might take a sec.. 14.4 and all 06.27.43 # can you send me your cfg? 06.27.51 # ecHs: yup 06.27.58 # ecHs: i created one for the recorder (very basic) 06.28.01 # merwin: the screen is blank 06.28.20 # mecraw: on which ones? 06.28.24 # mecraw: which wps settings 06.28.30 # custom wps 06.28.34 # mecraw: how about the others? 06.28.44 # didn't check 06.28.48 # err.. i only got the old player 06.28.56 # one sec 06.29.08 # ecHs: oh, heh... i'll send you the custom wps for player-old 06.29.38 # ecHs: player code works perfectly 06.29.43 # the custom fonts wont work on player-old, right? 06.29.49 # ecHs: true 06.30.05 # i gotta buy a new one soon :) 06.30.36 # the firmware for the recorder looks so damn great.. 06.31.00 # ecHs: yup... i like programming for the player though, more challenging :) 06.31.25 # ecHs: sent it to e-mail 06.31.46 # maybe you guys can code some 2 line pong or sth like that for the old player ;) 06.31.57 # merwin: id3 tags works, custom does nothing 06.32.14 # are id3v2 tags working 06.32.23 # mecraw: the other 3 work, but custom doesn't? ok 06.32.28 # pimlottc: they have always worked 06.32.39 # adi|home: they were broken for a while i think 06.32.43 # no.. 06.32.54 # only the ones that write their data beyond the 300 byte limit 06.33.05 # mecraw: you saved the wps.custom to the root of your recorder? 06.33.09 # adi|home: oh 06.33.46 # merwin: yes 06.34.10 # well, that means that it's the loading of the custom wps, not the displaying of it. yay! 06.34.39 # i think i see the error of my ways, whoops... easy mistake! 06.34.58 # i defined something for the recorder wrong 06.35.53 # mecraw: accept the dcc :) 06.35.55 # ok 06.36.44 # * merwin crosses fingers 06.37.17 # thx merwin.. seems like it works 06.37.49 # ecHs: yup, should work perfectly 06.38.15 # i'll try with a different cfg 06.39.09 # man I wish my linux kernel built this fast 06.39.19 # hehe 06.40.07 # pimlottc: no money for some really cool fast cpu? ;) 06.40.19 # merwin: Well done!! 06.40.39 # mecraw: all 6 lines display? 06.40.51 # jep thx merwin.. i'll get some sleep.. cyall 06.40.58 # ttyl 06.40.59 # mecraw: only 5 06.41.10 # mecraw: are there 5 or 6 on the recorder? 06.41.13 # only 5 were defined in the wps.config you sent me 06.41.33 # mecraw: oh, heh... try putting a 6th line in there... maybe the same thing as the 4th line or something 06.41.36 # 8 lines total, top is status bar, bottom is progress bar 06.41.42 # ecHs - actually I could upgrade, i've been thinking about it... but I just don't have much of a reason to 06.41.43 Nick ecHs is now known as ecHs|zZz (~exxe@p508B133D.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.41.54 # ecHs - I think I will wait for the AMD hammer to come out :) 06.41.58 # mecraw: and the time is displayed and stuff? wow... that was a wild guess getting all of tha tworking 06.42.10 # pimlottc: amd hammer? 06.42.22 # pimlottc: i'm really happy with my xp+gf4 ;)) 06.42.24 # merwin - the amd 64 bit cpu 06.42.50 # pimlottc: ahh, i would like that. right now i've got the amd 1800 06.42.53 # ecHs - man high end graphics cards are so damn expensive... :P 06.42.54 # athlon xp 06.43.11 # i've only got a gf2 though 06.43.12 # ecHs - call me old fashioned but i can't see spending $400 on a vid card 06.43.21 # merwin: all 6 lines work 06.43.48 # mecraw: damn i'm good *grin* 06.43.49 # merwin - same here and it still does quite well for me. 06.43.54 # pimlottc: go buy a gf4 ti4200 some extra fans and oc it to the max.. i cant see any differnce to a xp+gf4 ti4400 or even ti 4600 :) 06.44.09 # pimlottc: i can do everything i need to on my gf2 06.44.16 # besides, it wouldn't help much to get a gf4... i'm cpubound anyway 06.44.23 # already played ut2003? :) 06.44.27 # no 06.44.35 # I just have an old cpu heh 06.44.48 # my friends duron800+gf2gts system died.. ^^ 06.45.05 # it's a p3-450 06.45.24 # i'm running on 1024 with max details 60-100fps.. thats some serious eye candy :D 06.45.49 # besides 06.45.59 # the ati 9700 looks pretty damn sweet right now 06.46.26 # but the ti4600 is still good enough to beat it.. 06.46.40 # not in the benchmarks I saw 06.46.46 # i surely promise nvidia brings up some new cards on q4 release 06.46.54 # oh I'm sure 06.47.01 # just that 9700 is ruling at this moment 06.47.16 # but for what price? no way.. 06.47.17 # it also has impressive fsaa scores 06.47.30 # i've seen like 350 06.47.33 # i'm happy with qc-fsaa 06.48.22 # ati sure does a good job.. but nvidia wont let the 9700 win ;) 06.49.19 Join elinenbe|out [0] (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) 06.49.27 # i'd love to talk some more hours but its close to 7am and i still want some sleep.. 06.50.13 # heh, g'nite echs 06.50.29 # so if you get the firmware into an infinite loop will holding stop still power it down 06.50.30 # thx again merwin.. i'm sooooo happy :D 06.50.38 # nite ecHs 06.50.55 # nite pimlottc 06.51.04 # elinenbe|out: what time did you do that last commit of yours? 06.51.31 # elinenbe|out: and what time zone are you? 06.52.26 # I am eastern time zone... 06.52.28 # just committed. 06.52.33 Nick elinenbe|out is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) 06.52.41 # not too late yet 06.52.42 # elinenbe: damn you :) 06.52.50 # merwin: what? 06.53.36 # elinenbe: I'm going to have to attempt to merge your patch with my changes... i basically rewrote the wps :-) 06.53.50 # oh, it's not that much of a change 06.53.52 # good 06.54.53 # sorry about that... 06.55.00 # what have you done with the WPS? 06.55.19 # I am excited to see the changes... I just merged the seek acceleration code. 06.55.35 # elinenbe: custom wps for both player and recorder :) 06.55.51 # wow! I can't wait to check it out. 06.55.59 # that should be cool as heck! 06.56.07 # committ... committ... committ... 06.56.27 # elinenbe: but to do this i had to rewrite how the wps handles updates... it now does a full refresh of the screen numerous times per second (doesn't seem to make a difference though) 06.56.46 # that's fine :) 06.56.59 # I can't wait for pixel by pixel scrolling... 06.57.13 # I have a 3x4 font loaded onto my recorder :) 06.57.28 # i've got a player :) 06.57.33 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 06.57.35 # I like the snow screensaver! 06.57.38 # Zagor! 06.57.43 # hey! 06.57.44 # early morning for you huh? 06.57.53 # some nice stuff overnight. 06.58.05 # the snow screensaver is fun 06.58.08 # yeah. my gf goes to work early, so I get up too 06.58.14 # haha 06.58.15 # I have a 3x4 font loaded onto my recorder :) 06.58.34 # it shows where things need to be changed for the loadable fonts. 06.58.41 # Zagor: hey, got the custom wps working for both recorder and player now, perfectly fine 06.59.02 # tested with the recorder kindly by mecraw 06.59.28 # Zagor: the credits menu should work for smaller fonts. (fit more on the screen) 06.59.54 # merwin: how about scrolling? :D 07.00.11 # mecraw: hmm? 07.00.34 # scrolling in custom wps 07.01.09 # mecraw: you just add a %s as the first two characters of the line in the wps.custom that you want to have scrolled. you can't scroll the line that has the time on it though 07.01.24 # mecraw: remember, you can only have one %s 07.01.25 # merwin: can you scroll multiple lines? 07.01.25 # elinenbe: yeah, I agree. we need to make everything work with different fonts 07.01.29 # elinenbe: nope 07.02.08 # another problem with loaded fonts.... the icons (folder, playlist, cursor) should also be part of the fonts !!!! 07.02.19 # they are wrong when the font is quite small or quite large. 07.02.51 # yes. but we can't have them part of the font. then we'd have to make all fonts ourselves... 07.03.11 # we should probably have a couple of different icon sizes, though 07.03.32 # well, then either multiple siez icons should be stored, or they should be synamic. 07.03.39 # s/synamic/dynamic 07.04.07 # dynamic is difficult go make nice-looking. just think of the note. either ugly small, or ugly big 07.04.17 # i think three different sizes will be good enough 07.04.28 # dynamic, heh 07.04.42 # call me when you get ttf fonts 07.04.45 # now that'd be impressive 07.05.02 # nobody commit anything :) 07.05.04 # heh 07.05.09 # haha. yeah, and butt-ugly. ever seen a ttf font compressed to 5x8? 07.05.47 # well at 12pt and such 07.05.48 # I have been playing around with a ttf converter. It looks nice on some fonts. 07.06.01 # (of course you'd still have to get your hinting support working well) 07.06.18 # pimlottc: 12t is like two or three rows max on the recorder... 07.06.39 # merwin: scrolling isn't working for me 07.06.40 # this is like the filesystem discussion 07.06.50 # I didn't say it'd be _useful_... :) 07.06.56 # mecraw: excuse me? 07.07.01 # haha 07.07.02 # mecraw: i thought you said it was working :) 07.07.13 # zagor - besides some of us only have 2 rows and we do just fine! 07.07.14 # merwin: i put "%sHello there, does this line scroll? Banana Hammock" in the top line... no scroll 07.07.30 # sholdn't the fonts support all unicode... not just 256 ASCII characters or whatever... 07.07.30 # merwin: i didn't know scrolling was supposed to work :) 07.07.38 # mecraw - you often thinking of banana hammocks? 07.07.56 # mecraw: is that line over 64 characters? 07.08.00 # elinenbe: yes, it should. there is some support now, we'll improve it. 07.08.17 # merwin: nope - 53 07.08.20 # _all_ unicode? 07.08.25 # mecraw: hmm.. hold on 07.09.01 # pimlottc: well, no. that would take up too much room. 07.09.57 # I have been playing with different fonts today, and I think it would be nice to have a .fonts folder where you can choose the font you want to use. 07.10.10 # zagor - so what are you shooting for, standard european character sets? 07.10.38 # pimlottc: no, we set a size limit and then people can choose themselves which subset of unicode they want in their font 07.10.46 # mecraw: does scrolling work in any of the other modes? 07.10.52 # yep 07.11.02 # it's just custom that's not scrolling? 07.11.08 # elinenbe: a .rockbox dir is pretty much decided already 07.11.14 # mecraw: send me your wps.custom :) 07.11.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.36 # that is where wps.custom will reside. 07.13.30 # Zagor: you do know that creating a .xxxx dir in windows is impossible unless you do it under a DOS shell. talk about answering questions! 07.13.36 # mecraw: copy and paste it into a /msg to me 07.13.45 # you have do drop into DOS and do "mkdir .xxxx" 07.13.52 # you can't do it under the GUI 07.14.11 # you can make a batch file 07.14.14 # elinenbe: i know. but the other option would be to force hidden flag on, which would confuse even more people 07.14.30 # Excuse the following: 07.14.32 # %sHello there, does this line scroll? Banana Hammock 07.14.32 # %pc/%pt 07.14.32 # %it 07.14.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK mecraw 07.14.32 # %in - %id 07.14.32 # %ia 07.14.32 *** Alert Mode level 1 07.14.32 # %fb kbit/s 07.14.49 # Zagor: just checking :) 07.15.05 # Zagor: make sure that is in bold on every page on the site. 07.15.11 # hmm 07.15.17 # haha 07.15.30 # mecraw: hmmm.... 07.15.43 # mecraw: it should scroll... i'll get to that in a couple minutes :) 07.15.45 # we should make a setting for development 07.16.00 # so that when the usb cord is removed it automatically rolos 07.16.06 # that'd be nice 07.16.13 # windows really fucks up people's usb connection 07.16.23 # Zagor: how so:? 07.16.35 # pimlottc: why? it'll be like three button presses to load the new version 07.17.04 # for developement 07.17.06 # merwin: *lots* of people have problems upgrading firmware, since windows doesn't flush the disk properly on eject 07.18.33 # Zagor: you have to manually click on the icon in the tray and choose safely remove 07.18.40 # Zagor: then it will work properly 07.18.50 # the general settings is getting long 07.18.52 # Zagor: might want to include that in some docs 07.18.55 # Zagor: any timeline on wps rework? i don't want to start on something and have it all change underneath me 07.19.01 # merwin: no, it doesn't. at least MANY people have problems with it. magic, windows-type, problems 07.19.05 # should start breaking off into more submenus 07.19.09 # look in the yahoo forum. 07.19.36 # mecraw: "soon" :-) 07.19.37 # mecraw: i'd wait until custom wps is implemented... it changes some of the aspects of the wps 07.19.40 # i have more problems with usb in linux than i do with windows on my archos... 07.19.52 # PsycoXul: hehe 07.19.59 # Zagor: the problem is poepl do not eject. 07.20.10 # Zagor: they just pull out the recorder/player. 07.20.18 # its always locking up for no apparent reason and even locks magic sys-req sync and umount's 07.20.19 # elinenbe: i agree 07.20.40 # Zagor: if you right click on the icon in the tray and click "safely remove" you will NEVER have a problem... I never have. 07.21.03 # Zagor: if you don't however... then stuff is half-written, firmware on disk does not laod, etc. 07.21.11 # the eject is poorly down in win2k... if you have the archos and a usb cdwriter connected and want to eject the archos you end up ejecting them both 07.21.15 # elinenbe: i really don't think that's the problem. many many people have described how they do it, and always eject, and the file won't load 07.21.18 # down = done 07.21.41 # my ext3 filesystems have had to recover journal several times when a hung umount of my jukebox somehow blocked umounting the rest of my filesystems and made remounting them ro hang even 07.21.56 # check out this, for instance: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/message/12248 07.22.29 # PsycoXul: which kernel version are you using? 07.22.47 # 2.4.18 07.23.19 # RockBox 1.13? 8-) 07.23.26 # Morning. 07.24.10 # heh, yeah. people aren't used to sensible version names. 1.1 was frequently called 1.01 too. 07.24.17 # Zagor: that post says nothing about correctly pressing safely remove 07.24.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 07.24.53 Part ecHs|zZz 07.24.58 # i've never seen "safely remove" on windows 07.25.09 # just Eject in the right click menu on the drive in explorer 07.25.11 # Zagor: can you do a "cvs update settings.h" to update only one file? 07.25.16 # merwin: I know. it's a long thread, and earlier about four dozen people said "eject properly" and he said "I do". and this is not a once-time thing. 07.25.22 # Zagor: I have never had problems on win2k or winxp on many, many, many machines. 07.25.25 # merwin: yes 07.25.33 # Zagor: cool 07.26.01 # elinenbe: maybe you could write up a little installation instruction, for dummies? 07.26.19 # Rockbox for dummies. Heh. 07.26.24 # haha 07.27.19 # Hey, i switched to #define USE_STANDBY 07.27.36 # in ata.c - and i had 0 skips after that (driving home yesterday and to work this morning) 07.27.37 # skips gone? 07.27.40 # Zagor: I will get around to this tomorrow. 07.27.46 # wow... what harddisk do you have? 07.27.53 # elinenbe: ok 07.27.55 # On the other hand, I don't think it spins any more. 07.28.01 # spins down any more, that is. 07.28.07 # anyonw know any links to laar (greater then 20 pixels) bdf fonts? 07.28.09 # ?? really? 07.28.11 # The toshiba 40G. 07.28.14 # s/laar/large 07.28.21 # I think Linus has the exactly same disk model 07.28.26 # I have it too 07.28.30 # and he said he has similar problems with STANDBY 07.28.47 # Should USE_STANDBY be working in the current cvs ata.c code? 07.29.00 # i'll look 07.29.11 # elinenbe: with the accelerator, starting at 1second is not cool with me :) I had mine set to 5 seconds, what should i do? 07.29.22 # #define CMD_STANDBY_IMMEDIATE 0xE0 07.29.22 # #define CMD_STANDBY 0xE2 07.29.28 # What would be the difference between those? 07.29.47 # we issue CMD_STANDBY 07.30.01 # i have never seen "immediate" 07.30.18 # Those are defined in ata.c... could a disk have a timer before actually spinning down if _IMMEDIATE is not used? 07.30.26 # no 07.30.38 # Do we have an ATA spec sheet somewhere? 8-) 07.30.47 # yeah, on the spec sheet page 07.31.03 # ah, now I remember 07.31.19 # yes, IMMEDIATE is what we should use 07.31.29 # STANDBY sets the disks' own timer 07.31.41 # ATA_COMMAND = CMD_STANDBY; 07.31.49 # That would explain 8-) 07.31.53 # yes 07.32.28 # odd, how did we manage to break this? we used standby mode in 1.2... 07.32.32 # I'll try with that and see if there's skipping 07.32.35 # do so 07.32.36 # I was wondering the same 07.32.55 # could browse around CVS and check the 1.2 version 07.33.41 # we could, if sourceforge hadn't broken the cvs browser... 07.33.50 # uh. 8-) 07.34.15 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleeps (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) 07.35.23 # Zagor: it's working now 07.35.38 # umm, what is? 07.35.46 # hey neat my first crash 07.35.52 # oh, ok. nice 07.36.11 # (on my own code) 07.37.16 # Zagor: is there any way to blatently overwrite an entire file? :) 07.37.22 # when commiting? 07.37.29 # Hes: heck, I don't see how this could ever have worked... :-) 07.37.38 # merwin: how do you mean? 07.38.39 # Zagor: it's telling me up to date failed, because i manually cut and pasted the last two version's changes into my code (since i've drastacally changed wps.c for the custom wps). I need to just overwrite the file in cvs. The code that was changed in the last 2 versions works fine in mine 07.38.48 # up to date check failed 07.39.15 Quit h0bby () 07.39.25 # remove the file and run update again 07.41.05 # Zagor: interesting. 8-) 07.41.06 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 07.41.59 # heya hardeep 07.43.01 # howdy 07.43.03 # Ha! Custom WPS for recorders! 07.43.21 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 07.43.21 # * Hes dances around his room at the office 07.43.25 # Hes: yeah, scrolling doesn't work yet for some reason in the recorder when using the custom wps file 07.43.32 # hes: don't use it quite yet, i need to update the docs :) 07.43.35 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.43.39 # hey bag 07.43.40 # morning 07.43.49 # Morning 07.44.10 # i've got 15 minutes until i see if i broke the simulators... darn :) 07.46.26 # merwin: you need to add 1 space to the other options for wps in the menu 07.47.25 # mecraw: okey 07.48.23 # mecraw: i wonder what's wrong with the scrolling :P 07.51.21 # mecraw: try a bit shorter line that will scroll... or maybe try scrolling the 2nd line instead 07.51.25 # mecraw: to see what happens 07.51.33 # ok 07.52.19 # mecraw: for all intents and purposes, if it scrolls the other types of wps views, it should scroll the custom wps :) 07.56.50 # mecraw: i can't find a single thing wrong :) 07.57.34 # merwin: doesn't work on another line either 07.58.19 # Hes: ok, docs are updated :-) 08.00.11 # Zagor: I made a pretty drastic change to the wps for my custom_wps... the whole wps now refreshes numerous times per second (it's the only way to support custom wps). Doesn't seem to affect the display at all though. 08.00.39 # Zagor: it's due to having the time be part of the configurable wps.... we don't know where it will be located on the screen, so we can't just update only the time 08.00.50 # merwin: ewww 08.01.04 # but the time doesn't change "numerous times per second" ;-) 08.01.23 # merwin: at least cache it locally and only update if the buffer differs 08.01.27 # Bagder: but the display of the time will look choppy if it doesn't display at least 4 times per second 08.01.47 # Zagor: hmm? 08.02.15 # merwin: why can't you only update the line(s) with the elapsed time in it? 08.02.16 # I'd have some info on which line there is time info and only update those, and only if the time actually changed 08.02.42 # Bagder: I could do that 08.02.52 # Bagder: check for the tags for time in the string 08.02.58 # and only update that one. 08.03.01 # lcd_update_rect() could possibly be used then too 08.03.11 # for recorders 08.03.29 # that would be a lot better 08.03.47 # Zagor: why bother when it's not choppy? 08.03.51 # and even then, sprintf to a buffer, compare it to the old and only call lcd_update if the buffer differs 08.04.08 # merwin: because it uses cpu better spent elsewhere 08.04.38 # Zagor: on the player it doesn't really matter... the old time display was updating almost the entire line anyways... and since one line is scrolling, it's still only updating one line 08.04.48 # Zagor: it's only the recorder that would lose cpu possibly 08.05.12 # not possibly 08.05.21 # screen updates are pretty costly on the recorder 08.05.35 # "only" recorder? 08.05.36 # Bagder: is there any way to check cpu usage with and without? 08.05.43 # merwin: no 08.05.56 # Zagor: hmm? 08.06.17 # mecraw: how's the testing going? 08.06.21 # recorders are slower, and take longer updating. I will not have code wasting cpu. 08.06.30 # Zagor: *grin* k 08.06.52 # merwin: ? it doesn't work 08.07.45 # mecraw: try this... make one with all 6 lines long enough so that they will scroll... and have the %s on the first line. let's see if ANY of them are scrolling 08.08.08 # this is insane, that part of it is the same as with the player, and the player works fine 08.08.46 # Zagor: is there an instr() function? 08.08.58 # no. what would it do? 08.09.24 # Zagor: find if a string exists within a string 08.09.33 # needle in a haystack as php puts it 08.09.42 # it's called strstr() in C. but we still don't have it. :-) 08.10.10 # Would be pretty easy to do though. 08.10.10 # Zagor: to have a cache of the last wps, it would take another 384 bytes, that ok? 08.10.37 # Zagor: 64 bytes per line, 6 lines 08.10.38 # * Hes would like regular expressions for filename => WPS parsing 8-) 08.10.39 # if time is the only thing that changes, the changed-time is all that needs to be checked 08.11.03 # Hes: bah.. that'll come :) 08.11.35 # mecraw: use bagder's solution 08.12.21 # Zagor: you talkin' to me? 08.12.24 # so it'll only be updating the line that has the time on it, and only once a second 08.12.59 # mecraw: sorry, I meant merwin 08.13.01 # it'll need to do it faster than once a second 08.13.16 # Zagor: we get confused all the time :D 08.13.19 # Bagder: the check, yes. but the actual update will only be once/sec 08.13.25 # Bagder: it'll only need to update once a second though 08.13.28 # on the screen that is 08.13.32 # Zagor: ah, yes, right 08.13.35 # merwin: it tries to scroll but then stops 08.13.43 # mecraw: excuse me? 08.14.09 # merwin: it scrolls one character and then goes back to normal 08.14.18 # which line scrolls? the proper one? 08.14.21 # yes 08.14.33 # that means it's doing an lcd_stop_scroll somewhere that it shouldn't be 08.15.21 # line 606 08.15.47 # you think? 08.16.04 # that should go away once you only update things that change 08.16.55 # mecraw: you're tlaking about this, right? 08.16.55 # if(do_scroll) 08.16.55 # { 08.16.55 DBUG Enqueued KICK merwin 08.16.55 # lcd_stop_scroll(); 08.16.55 # lcd_puts_scroll(x_val, y_val, buffer); 08.16.55 *** Alert Mode level 1 08.16.55 # } 08.17.26 # yes 08.17.32 # that only gets done if do_scroll is true, which is only done when draw_screen is done, which is not done very often 08.17.41 # that gets run multiple times a second, right? 08.20.14 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.20.14 # * merwin is stumped 08.21.16 # i'll be away most of today (have to work! *ack* *spit* ;-> ) you'all behave, now! ;) 08.21.23 # heh 08.21.26 # is this proper code? 08.21.26 # if(scroll_line != l) 08.21.26 # display_custom_wps(0, l, false, custom_wps[l]); 08.21.26 *** Alert Mode level 2 08.21.26 # else 08.21.26 *** Alert Mode level 3 08.21.26 # if(refresh_scroll) 08.21.26 *** Alert Mode level 4 08.21.26 # display_custom_wps(0, l, true, custom_wps[l]); 08.21.50 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 08.22.06 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 08.22.10 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 08.23.21 # mecraw: and it *is* scrolling the other wps displays properly? 08.23.29 # yes 08.23.44 # i'm heading to bed... good luck 08.23.50 # nite 08.24.06 Nick mecraw is now known as mecraw|zzz (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) 08.24.06 DBUG Enqueued KICK mecraw|zzz 08.25.43 Quit merwin () 08.29.29 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.29.41 # good morning! 08.30.41 # heya bobTHC 08.31.27 *** Alert Mode OFF 08.34.25 Join merwin|shower [0] (merwin@1Cust227.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 08.34.29 Nick merwin|shower is now known as merwin (merwin@1Cust227.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 08.34.45 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.39.00 Quit merwin () 08.43.14 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.43.39 # re (fucking windows reboot) 08.51.31 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.51.31 # * Bagder likes the way several archos forums have turned into rockbox-support forums ;-) 08.55.33 # Hes: I think you could add a separate Q for the deep discharge 08.55.40 # to make it more obvious 09.06.39 Join merwin|shower [0] (merwin@1Cust238.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 09.06.46 Nick merwin|shower is now known as MeRWiN (merwin@1Cust238.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) 09.10.19 # Bagder: Yeah, maybe. 09.11.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.15.51 Join linuxstb [0] (~dave@dsl-212-23-31-215.zen.co.uk) 09.23.10 # * MeRWiN is finally downloading mingw... 09.29.35 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 09.36.24 Join h0bby [0] (Hobby@h24-83-178-201.vf.shawcable.net) 09.39.10 Quit h0bby (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.06.24 # who #rockbox 10.06.31 # Ups :) 10.07.53 # Morning all! 10.13.42 # morning mbr 10.15.54 # Hi Bagder! 10.16.10 # scrollbar question. Where should it go? 10.16.36 # To te left side of the lcd? 10.16.43 # yeps 10.16.57 # OK 10.17.02 # and it needs to remain possible to switch on/off 10.19.13 # OK. I'll add it to tree 10.19.37 # btw. are cvs brances allowed? 10.20.51 # we haven't really discussed that 10.21.00 # you feel a need for one? 10.21.23 # so far we've mainly stayed with using #ifdef WHATEVER around "experiemental" code 10.21.36 # Not really. I was not sure how to supply a "test" version with scrollbar. 10.31.42 # Bagder: how do i make the sim with mingw? 10.32.54 # * MeRWiN slaps Bagder around a bit with a large trout 10.34.12 # you tell me 10.34.44 # ? 10.34.52 # no one has cared anough to do anything about it 10.34.59 # afaik 10.35.09 # how do we build the win32 sim then? 10.35.25 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.35.32 # "we" fix the makefiles to work 10.35.48 # "we" in this end don't use windows 10.36.23 # sorry, but that's the hard reality 10.36.32 # windows users don't do much of that stuff 10.36.55 # makes it harder to debug recorder code without building the sim :) 10.37.21 # well, I always build the sim ;-) 10.37.50 # trust me, it didn't work when I started either *g* 10.38.03 # what we need is a good emulator :) 10.38.19 # it wouldn't solve your problem 10.38.27 # you'd still not be able to build it ;-) 10.38.39 # yeah it would, someone builds the emulator and then i just plop the mod file in 10.38.47 # heh 10.39.10 # downloading binaries? ough, how cavemanish ;-) 10.39.31 # hah 10.39.40 # now, seriously 10.39.48 # what is the problem with mingw and the sim? 10.40.14 # i installed mingw 2.02 (not the newest 2.03... it doubles the download size) 10.40.18 # add it to my path 10.40.54 # create the makefile 10.40.56 # and get this: 10.40.57 # Updating Dependencies for dir-win32.c 10.40.57 # i386-mingw32msvc-gcc: not found 10.41.08 # wait 10.41.46 # your compiler is probably not named like that 10.42.25 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.42.58 # hmm 10.43.06 # *ugha* 10.43.14 # what an amazing bug I got just now 10.43.16 # i wish i could get it to compile with just plain gcc 10.43.21 # cygwin is so nice 10.43.50 # MeRWiN: so what prevents you from making that work? 10.44.06 # I thought people already built the sim with cygwin 10.45.11 # /button.o 10.45.11 # gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory 10.45.11 # make[1]: *** [/home/Administrator/rockbox/sim/button.o] Error 1 10.45.48 # can you compile programs at all with that gcc? 10.45.58 # "installation problem" sounds bad 10.46.09 # which gcc should i use to compile this? 10.46.15 # regular gcc, sh1 gcc, 10.46.17 # etc 10.46.28 # regular gcc, the sim is built as a windows program 10.46.45 # it updates the dependencies but when it gets to button.o apparently it dies 10.47.24 # try running the gcc line "by hand" on the shell prompt 10.47.42 # now i'm getting BUTTON_MENU undeclared 10.47.52 # whoops, wrong place to compile it :P 10.48.10 # ignore that 10.50.12 # running that line gives me the same error 10.50.22 # gcc itself works, it compiled the tools fine 10.51.03 # odd 10.53.33 # still, it is a problem with the gcc 10.55.02 Join h0bby [0] (Hobby@h24-83-178-201.vf.shawcable.net) 10.55.13 # MeRWiN: how is your path set up? And did you install gcc at the default location? 10.55.36 # cygwin set up gcc 10.56.10 # PATH='/home/Administrator/sh1/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/Progr 10.56.11 # am Files/Internet Explorer:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdriv 10.56.11 # e/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/gs/gs7.00/bin:/cygdrive/c/gs/gs7.00/lib:/cyg 10.56.11 DBUG Enqueued KICK MeRWiN 10.56.11 # drive/c/Programs/kpit/GNU-SH v0202 [ELF]/Sh-elf/bin/:/cygdrive/c/Programs/kpit/G 10.56.11 # NU-SH v0202 [ELF]/Sh-elf/lib/gcc-lib/sh-elf/2.9-GNU-SH-v0202/:/cygdrive/c/Progra 10.56.11 *** Alert Mode level 1 10.56.11 # ms/kpit/GNU-SH v0202 [ELF]/Other Utilities:/usr/X11R6/bin' 10.56.28 # does it find the wrong version of 'as' perhaps? 10.56.35 # what is as? 10.56.42 # GNU assembler 10.56.47 # that might be it 10.56.50 # it doesn't exist :) 10.57.24 # well, gcc can't work without it so it must've existed if you built the tools with gcc 10.57.55 # Bagder: somehow it did work, cause i've got the tools :) 10.58.03 # yeah 10.58.17 # what is ld? 10.58.28 # the linker 10.58.37 # or "loader" 10.59.01 # linker in this context 10.59.07 # that's named ld2 on my system 10.59.27 # well it doesn't matter 10.59.44 # because 1. it fails before that and 2. we invoke it via gcc and it should know 11.00.13 # can you just download gnu assembler as a single package? 11.00.56 # yes you can, they are called binutils 11.01.01 # but i don't see the point 11.01.17 # if gcc was included, then as is too 11.01.46 # and since you used gcc fine before, you has as before 11.01.51 # had 11.02.21 # i missed the discussion, when did it stop working? 11.02.31 # on the first c file 11.02.44 # no, you said he used gcc fine before 11.02.47 # recorder sim using cygwin 11.02.54 # right, he could build the tools before 11.03.43 # damn gcc is 9 megs 11.04.02 # i see that you have both gnush and a homebrewed SH1 compiler. why? 11.04.49 # i was trying mingw, then found out it doesn't work :) 11.05.02 # it works 11.05.06 # others have used it 11.05.17 # for the sim? 11.05.20 # yes 11.06.12 *** Alert Mode OFF 11.06.32 # its just that windows is a mess 11.06.42 # all compilers need their own setup 11.06.53 # and no one truly maintains any of them 11.07.31 # :) 11.08.41 # apparently some cygwin installs didn't include as or ld :P 11.08.54 # i'm searching and there's a lot of posts in various places about that 11.11.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.14.09 # bbiab 11.14.12 Quit MeRWiN () 11.15.42 # bbiab? Be Back In A ...what? 11.15.58 # billion years? 11.16.04 # B-) 11.16.05 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 11.16.05 # * LinusN is not an Acronym Guru 11.16.14 # breakfast? 11.16.20 # bucket? 11.24.48 # kinda amusing the riaa hack 11.24.52 # http://minordamage.com/riaa_hack.jpg 11.25.14 # subtle 11.25.42 # hah 11.35.08 # Hahah 11.50.19 # I have another bug now 11.50.32 # I have playback with the PAUSE symbol in the status bar 11.51.09 # hehe, and then the pause button doesn't work 11.51.15 # it only changed the symbol 11.51.40 # on the target? 11.51.40 # try this: play a song for a while 11.51.47 # press pause 11.51.50 # press LEFT 11.51.53 # on a recorder 11.52.28 # and? 11.52.31 # I don't run the absolutely latest code, but I can't recall any fixes on this 11.52.36 # aha, now i see 11.52.37 # the pause symbol is there 11.52.45 # try this a few times 11.52.52 # my "total time" gets all wrong 11.53.05 # wacko! 11.55.24 Quit datazone (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.56.38 Join linuxstb [0] (~dave@dsl-212-23-31-215.zen.co.uk) 11.57.21 # heheheh 11.57.33 # soooo wrong ;-) 11.59.15 # LinusN - any ideas about my "12 second problem" ? 11.59.58 # i'm working on it now 12.00.23 # Thanks - let me know if I can do anything to help. 12.00.27 # it's not exactly 12 seconds for me, rather 17-20 12.01.09 # it sounds ok now 12.01.20 # What have you changed? 12.01.39 # the MAS poll timer, from 2ms to 1ms, not something i like at all 12.01.57 # What are the consequences? 12.02.32 # more CPU load 12.02.57 # Which equals more power? 12.03.56 # possibly, and less responsive user interface, and... 12.05.11 # i wish i could use an interrupt for that... 12.05.25 # actually, i can on the recorder, but not on the player 12.05.39 # That suits me - I have a recorder :-) 12.06.43 # actually, the CPU load is worse on the recorder too, so maybe i should work on using interrupts on the recorder 12.07.20 # i'll commit the poll timer change, and go to work on the interrupt at a later time 12.07.47 # OK - thanks. I'll test it now and report back. 12.08.46 # done 12.13.22 # Perfect! 12.14.25 # Thanks a lot. Is it worthwhile for me to try values between 1ms and 2ms ? 12.15.47 Join datazone [0] ([exHjfH2mg@207.136.36.203) 12.16.11 # linuxstb: not really 12.16.33 # OK - I'll leave it alone. 12.17.43 # Bagder: what was the policy again? Close bug reports only on releases? 12.30.05 Join alkorr [0] (alkorr@ASte-Genev-Bois-110-1-1-138.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.30.12 # yo alan! 12.30.19 # Yo Linus 12.30.20 # long time no see 12.30.37 # yes that's true. 12.30.45 # long vacation eh? 12.30.51 # yeah ;) 12.33.22 # well i must reinstall everything, i thought it was my harddisk that crashes but it is my rack indeed but as I have already buy a new harddisk :/ 12.33.41 # reinstalling, that's fun 12.34.38 # not so much for me, I need to recollect all my settings and softwares 12.35.03 # i know, it sucks 12.35.38 # how is Zagor ? 12.35.54 # i mean how fine 12.38.16 # he's fine i think 12.39.23 # well, i have some to do, see you later 12.39.27 # job 12.39.32 Part alkorr 12.43.04 Mode "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 12.43.16 Mode "#rockbox +o adi|home " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.43.18 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.43.25 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor|away " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.48.50 # guess i am going to have to stay home today so that fedex can finaly deliver my 30G drive for my jukebox 12.49.29 # "worth waiting for" 12.49.35 # i guess 12.49.59 # i hope my boss dont mark it off as "time off" 12.50.16 # i put in alot of extra time all over the place, not to mention that 12 hours on sunday 12.52.05 # hmmm.. running remote apps over a dial-up is pretty weak 12.54.07 # hey LinusN, when is rockbox going to have 10% more ball juice than any other archos jukebox firmware? 12.55.06 # i am a lame swedish coder, i don't know what "10% more ball juice" means :-) 12.55.18 # i see 12.55.33 # damn swedes 12.55.55 # the only swede i know dont like finns 12.56.15 # they don't know a single word of plain english... :-) 12.56.34 # i see, you dont have any love for the finns wither? 12.56.39 # either 12.56.51 # i was talking about the swedes :-) 12.56.56 # ah 12.57.40 # i mean, "10% more ball juice", that's plain simple everyday english 12.57.51 # i guess 12.58.10 # oh yeah 12.59.14 # so, back to your question, what were you asking? :-) 12.59.31 # when we will rock even more? 12.59.50 # its like asking: "when will rockbox whip the llama's arse?" 13.00.53 # what would be cool is if when the jukebox loaded the rockbox firmware, it could have a "splash sound" 13.01.06 # so it could say cool stuff 13.11.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.03 # why not? that would be very easy 13.20.10 # .rockbox/bootsplash.mp3 13.21.09 # LinusN: right, Zagor wants the bug reports closed on releases. I'd rather have them closed when fixed 13.21.18 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@dsl-2129324-094.ip.versatel.de) 13.21.33 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/rec-general.html 13.21.37 # * Bagder updated mucho 13.22.45 Join Blaster_Master [0] (~noone@firewall.scribona.com) 13.23.58 # we still have key detection problems on old recorders... 13.25.23 # it's not easily solved 13.26.18 # so you know why it happens? 13.26.37 # Linuxdummyquestion: How do I extend the PATH environment variable in cygwin? 13.26.57 # Bagder: yes, his UP key gives very low A/D readings 13.27.09 # sometimes 13.27.29 # langhaarrocker: 'export PATH="${PATH}:/new/piece/to/add"' 13.28.09 # Badger: Thanx 13.28.09 # LinusN: Maybe the bug is squished between the button contacts? 13.28.21 # but his UP key readings vary a lot, so i suspect that it is broken 13.28.22 # you know something keeps making me want to put the words "Don't Panic!" in large friendly letters accross the front of my jukebox 13.28.25 # langhaarrocker: :-) 13.28.25 # hehehe 13.29.48 # any feelings on adding a footer to mails sent to the mailing list? 13.29.58 # like a FAQ pointer 13.30.03 # i hate footers 13.30.09 # footers suck 13.30.18 # if they don't read the welcome mail, they won't read footers 13.30.19 # and i'm not sure that will cure the FAQ-blindness 13.30.22 # and they're stupid 13.30.28 # true 13.30.50 # it'll just increase the archive size 13.31.07 # just like those PGP blobs :-) 13.31.50 # LinusN: btw - the current CVS code with STANDBY defined instead of SLEEP in ata.c did not skip at all 13.32.01 # i figured that 13.32.13 # and my box is HOT with SLEEP 13.32.15 # on the other hand - it didn't spin the disk either since it issued ATA_STANDBY command instead of ATA_STANDBY_IMMEDIATE 8-) 13.32.33 # hehe, and when you changed that? 13.32.49 # I didn't change that 13.32.58 # that's what the current cvs ata.c does 13.32.59 # it's a bug in there 13.33.22 # no, i mean did it skip when you corrected that bug? 13.33.29 # 08:32 < Zagor> odd, how did we manage to break this? we used standby mode in 1.2... 13.33.34 # 08:37 < Zagor> Hes: heck, I don't see how this could ever have worked... :-) 13.33.46 # I didn't try that yet 13.33.53 # i fixed that bug now, will try it this evening 13.39.34 # Hes: I have a theory 13.40.06 # the wait_for_rdy() code may be flawed 13.40.22 # it waits for !BSY and then expects RDY to be 1 13.40.40 # it would probably have to wait for RDY to become 1 as well 13.40.48 # Hmm, interesting. 13.41.05 # * Hes walks back to office from the machine room 13.43.23 # i really think that wait_for_rdy() is flawed 13.50.20 # to prove how evil I am, I'll not update the player manual 13.50.33 # Hes: I have corrected wait_for_rdy() now 13.50.35 # Is the uisimulator known to work with WindowsXP? 13.50.45 # langhaarrocker: I think so 13.52.01 Quit Blaster_Master (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.52.17 # gotta go now 13.52.21 # cu guys! 13.52.24 # bye LinusN 13.52.29 # bye 13.52.34 Part LinusN 13.53.42 # Is the recordersimulator known to be broken currently? 13.57.16 # is it? 13.57.29 # Or it works strange under WindowsXP 13.58.08 # I have no idea 14.03.33 Part langhaarrocker 14.03.49 # ok as of current cvs 14.04.03 # the config for FF/rewind accel doesn't display right 14.04.32 Join diddystar5 [0] (LeePilgrim@208-149-64-171.ppp.nexband.com) 14.04.41 # the actualy line that shows the setting shows other general settings menu options and misc garbage 14.05.17 # ah going all the way left started showing something that makes sense 14.05.39 # it was probably my old setting of 30 seconds... it use the same config byte or whatever? 14.06.18 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@dsl-2129324-094.ip.versatel.de) 14.06.58 # ahh leaving to regon today 14.07.07 # *oregon 14.09.06 # i go bye 14.09.08 Quit diddystar5 (Client Quit) 14.11.42 # The simulator shows the animated battery loading symbol and the Vol. symbol in the archos design, F1 doesn't pop up any menu, with the curser you can navigate over menu items that don't exist, ... Is that how it should be? 14.12.11 # no 14.16.43 # Does it something different with the unix build? 14.17.11 # some things of course, but the main stuff should be the same 14.22.34 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 14.23.06 # What I meant: does the linux build of the recorder simulator seem to work properly on the current sources? 14.24.46 Join RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 14.25.01 # yes, I haven't noticed any obvious flaws 14.25.14 # can you tell me one flaw you can repeat? 14.25.22 # so I can try 14.26.36 # F1 doesn't pop up any menu 14.27.01 # the % key you mean? 14.27.51 # hm, maybe the win sim have the keys differently 14.27.57 # well I get a menu 14.28.41 # should I be able to operate the keys by mouse? 14.28.48 # I don't know 14.29.02 # I've never even seen the win32 simulator 14.29.09 # in that aspect, they differ a lot 14.29.41 # But you also get the animated battery loading symbol in the archos design? 14.30.00 # no 14.30.15 # That's what I get 14.30.19 # it looks like a fully charged battery to me 14.30.59 # And on the right top edge there is the volume display as known from the original recorder firmware 14.31.26 # not here 14.36.12 Quit Snorlax ("gittar ny!") 14.36.33 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 14.41.06 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html 14.41.21 # design #25 in place 14.42.40 # powered by brain ...:) 14.44.06 # 25 design, it's a pretty number... 14.44.17 # quite a lot indeed 14.44.55 # and it's not finish... 14.45.09 # but very soon 14.45.52 # 2 days left.... 14.46.20 # I like 23 and 24 a lot. 14.47.40 # for back or front...? 14.48.17 # well the competition rules actuall don't mention which side the print is for ;-) 14.48.33 # clever! 14.48.48 # then again, they say "single sided" too... 14.49.21 # I'm sure we'll work it out ;-) 14.49.33 # of course... 14.58.10 # Bagder: What shall I do with the scrollbar enabling code? check it in or send a patch to ML? 14.58.19 # * adi|home is kinda sorry that he was the first to ask to bend the rules 14.58.33 # cause everyone faollowed... 14.58.36 # * adi|home is a trend setter 14.59.19 # Bagder: Will not get into conflict with the CodePolice :) 15.00.47 Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 15.01.31 # Hi Zagor! 15.01.35 # hi 15.02.07 # I have enabled the scrollbar in tree and menus. What shall I do with the code? check in or patch to ML? 15.02.27 # send a patch first 15.02.35 # OK. 15.03.14 # Zagor: now fix the web so that it updates on head.t changes too :-) 15.03.24 # * Bagder fixed the manual link 15.03.41 # blueh. dependencies suck! ;) 15.05.26 Join fdfdsf [0] (~dave@dsl-212-23-31-215.zen.co.uk) 15.05.26 Quit fdfdsf (Client Quit) 15.11.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.13.39 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.14.13 Join sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) 15.14.39 # I updated the recorder manual 15.14.44 # now it is somewhat up-to-date 15.14.57 # someone else need to fix the player one 15.15.23 Quit fragglet (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.17.21 # can someone explain this submission to me... 15.17.22 # Instead of replacing the 20Gb HD by a 40Gb, I'd rather 15.17.23 # have mp3 pro proper decoding to gain some space :) 15.17.23 DBUG Enqueued KICK adi|home 15.17.23 # Is it possible a least ? 15.17.39 # what is mp3 pro? 15.17.54 # the New Shiny (and very expensive) Codec from Fraunhofer. 15.18.02 # claims good quality at 64 kbit 15.18.22 # it's not true, of course. 15.18.32 # but that doesn't stop people from drooling about it. 15.18.58 # hehehehe 15.19.02 # why isn't it true? 15.19.17 # the quality isn't that good 15.19.25 # snakeoil? 15.19.46 # not really snake oil, but 64kbit mp3pro sounds worse than 128kbit mp3 15.19.51 # and they claim similar quality 15.20.17 # Ok 15.20.18 # it *is* a more efficient codec, though. so it's not all a bluff. 15.20.38 # then again, why opt for yet another patented codec when there's ogg? 15.20.55 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.20.55 # * adi|home screams 15.21.07 # only because thompson scares people off by showing them their lawyers 15.21.13 # "Ive looked in the archive.. but i was too lazy to read the FAQ... can we play other formats?" 15.21.18 # * adi|home screams somemore 15.22.16 # adj|home: Do you vote for a qualification test before users may subscribe to the mailing list? ;) 15.22.33 # hehe, another one found the bugs I saw 15.22.40 # Hes: did the STANDBY_IMMEDIATE fix your skipping? 15.22.45 Join fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 15.22.46 # I didn't test yet 15.22.50 # ok 15.23.04 # Can do one or two good tests a day 8-) 15.25.14 # I think i need to find out where this Steve Lhomme lives 15.25.18 # and slash his car tires 15.25.54 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 15.25.56 # adj|home: he doesn't write mails with car tires 15.26.24 # lol 15.26.25 # true 15.26.36 # but if he has to replace his tires.. he's away from the comp that much longer :) 15.26.58 Quit fragglet (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.27.01 Join fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 15.28.10 # does anyone have any idea why google refuses to index the mail archive? 15.29.16 # makes the search form rather useless 15.30.36 # the July archive seems to be there 15.30.55 # google's usualy at least a month behind 15.31.01 # Bagder: that's because the search form currently uses the old address. try site:rockbox.haxx.se and it only shows the web pages 15.31.09 # ah 15.31.36 # PsycoXul: I know. but now it has indexed the new domain, but not the mail archive pages 15.31.48 # heh *shrug* 15.34.16 # okay.. i address the other format question again in the faq.. new question 15.34.20 # and its the last fuckign one 15.35.21 # maybe you should take a deep breath and calm down before extending the faq... :) 15.39.27 Quit Snorlax ("gittar ny!") 15.47.45 # I've seen that 1024kbit bug too 15.47.58 # but only when I used 'prev' 16.00.52 Join Ucender [0] (~fred@matricio.net2.nerim.net) 16.07.22 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 16.07.32 Nick mecraw|zzz is now known as mecraw (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) 16.07.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK mecraw 16.09.35 # i've seen it too 16.09.45 # bit it always went away 16.09.54 # i blame bad state handling 16.10.23 # I had a song playing along fine with it on screen 16.10.34 # but then I tried next -> prev 16.10.39 # and it didn't appear again 16.10.47 # odd 16.11.23 # what u think about a XML favorite & contact manager like on the ipod... (for the 2.x version of course) ? 16.11.39 # fine, except that XML will be a huge overkill 16.12.30 # not totally xml compliant, just @ least Vcard compliant... 16.14.47 # but of course without diskwriting it only can be a viewer and not "manager".. ;) 16.15.39 # bobTHC: great idea. can you write the first version? 16.16.45 # i haven't the C skills, perhaps after december..(i start C course) 16.16.55 # sorry zagor :( 16.17.03 # no problem 16.24.13 Quit elinenbe|sleeps () 16.26.22 # time to go 16.26.23 Part Bagder 16.32.31 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.32.31 # * bobTHC add : for interested people , info on Vcard and Vcalendar @ http://www.imc.org/pdi/ 16.33.35 Nick mecraw is now known as mecraw|away (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) 16.33.35 DBUG Enqueued KICK mecraw|away 16.49.05 # adi|home: you here? 16.49.24 # "A whole bunch of us at work have Archos players / recorders. I discovered your FAQ today and past it around the office, to much amusement. We have decided to prepare our FAQ's to a similar style and standard." 16.49.26 Join alkorr [0] (alkorr@ASte-Genev-Bois-110-1-1-138.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.49.40 # I Post Vmanager as Request ? 16.49.46 # bobTHC: sure 16.49.49 # hi alan! 16.49.51 # LOL 16.49.53 # i love it 16.49.56 # thanks Zagor :) 16.50.07 # hi Zagor ! 16.50.09 # i thought you should get the credit :) 16.50.10 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.50.10 # * adi|home puffs up his chest and all 16.50.18 # you get that in an email? 16.50.27 # yup 16.50.34 # mind sending me a copy? 16.50.38 # sure 16.50.41 # ty 16.50.45 # rhak@ramapo.edu 16.54.03 Join Deadsense [0] (Deadsense@D5763B8A.kabel.telenet.be) 16.55.15 # maybe the line "- Support playing of other files types (ie: Ogg Vorbis support)" should be deleted from Q17 in the faq? 16.55.37 # langhaarrocker: why? nobody ever reads it anyway. ;-) 16.56.09 # :) 16.56.14 # heheh 16.56.21 # why do you want to delete it langhaarrocker? 16.57.28 # I should have put ;) behind it. The line might inspire strange thoughts in Steve Lhommes head... 16.57.36 # hehehe 16.58.02 # im on the verge of telling the next motherfucker that asks about formats to 'LEARN TO FUCKING READ YOU BASTARD!" 16.58.21 # so adi|home, what formats are supported now? :) 16.58.30 # * datazone runs 16.58.41 # hehehee 16.59.18 Quit Deadsense () 17.01.51 # And what is more important: Is there a way to make the Jukebox never never never play specific songs that should be forbidden for obvious bad taste? 17.02.08 # Zagor: the first thing i did when i first tried rockbox was reading the FAQ... am i a strange man? 17.02.17 # hehehe i love that FAQ email.. thanks Zagor :) 17.02.21 # makes me feel really good 17.02.24 # quelsaruk: you're a hero! ;) 17.02.26 # adi|home: yeah 17.02.35 # yup quelsaruk 17.02.40 # truth is.. alot of ppl do that 17.02.45 # then read the mail and irc archives 17.02.52 # most sensible people do, yes 17.02.58 # its just that the random few that dont are soooo blaringly obvious 17.03.01 # that's why we don't see them post silly questions to the list 17.03.22 # Zagor: it's just common sense, if i come here afterwadrs and start asking questions in the FAQ... you could think i'm stupid, or even worst 17.03.30 Part Ucender ("A+") 17.04.39 # quelsaruk: oh, we'd *never* think that ;-> 17.04.48 # sure??? 17.04.52 # XD 17.05.47 # Zagor: do you know if linus is comming today? 17.06.00 # i don't know. i've been away most of the day myself. 17.06.07 # thx 17.07.21 # by the way Zagor 17.07.39 # Mor du brä? <--- as you can see i'm learning swedish :) 17.08.02 # well you have a bit left. :-) "Mår du bra" is the correct spelling. 17.08.12 # jajaja 17.08.15 # hehe 17.08.25 # i'm not perfect 17.11.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.17.51 # Zagor i ment to ask 17.17.54 # * bobTHC says : Vmanager request posted ... 17.17.57 # how do you do those special chars? 17.18.55 Join Heltrskeltr349 [0] (dsfjdsklfj@pm727-02.dialip.mich.net) 17.19.08 # lcd_define_pattern 17.19.28 # no no no.. i mean here :) 17.19.36 # you mean åäö ? 17.19.48 # anybody know why I get a "required .DLL file, MSVCR70.DLL, was not found" error when I try to run the simulator? 17.20.16 # yeah.. those 17.20.32 # they're on the swedish keyboard layout 17.20.39 # looks like its looking for a visual c dll 17.20.45 # ahh.. okay.. 17.21.05 # hmm..i guess I should find it then 17.21.10 # adi|home: http://www.sun.com/developers/gadc/tools/keyboards/type6_sw.html 17.21.27 # ty :) 17.22.59 Quit sylvr (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.43 # Heltrskeltr349: i can send it to you.. i have it on my win2k partition :) 17.25.32 # quelsaruk, i need it too 17.25.57 # actually, I'm getting it now 17.26.01 # thanks anyways though :) 17.26.13 # wait a minute so.. alkorr, i'll send you via dcc 17.26.38 # Now I'm thrilled to see wether your uisimulator work properly! 17.27.18 # i couln't use win simulator... i don't know why 17.27.34 # it didn't run on win98 or winxp 17.27.42 # neither win2k 17.28.13 # edx made simulator run on his winxp 17.29.04 # in win2k it entered into a loop, and crashed 17.29.17 # I get something running on winxp, too, but it doesn't do anything similar to the rockbox firmware. 17.29.37 Join sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) 17.31.07 # What do you other windows users use to compile the uisimulators? VC6? VC7? 17.32.17 # alright it's running now 17.32.52 # does it behave somehow as expected? 17.32.54 # VC 7 isn't .NET C# ? 17.33.00 # yep 17.33.14 # alkorr: are you getting that dcc? 17.33.47 # NET c#? Is that free? 17.34.04 # surely not 17.34.10 # yep 17.34.13 # och menno 17.34.17 # u know a lot of thing free for Micro$oft ??? 17.34.49 # Didn't know NET c# at all-> neither that it's by MS 17.35.26 # none of the buttons are working 17.35.35 # it's called "C Hash" -> Cash. That's all they want from you. ;) 17.35.47 # heltuse keyboard. 17.35.48 # .net is kind of cool 17.36.20 # yeah. like tooth aches. 17.36.49 # :) 17.37.14 # Heltrskeltr349: Have you tried the cursor left / cursor right / Enter Keys? The seemed to do at least somehting - even if unpredictable. 17.37.39 # no seriously its one of the few cool things i've seen microsoft do 17.37.49 # that kinda sucks 17.37.52 # looks really good 17.38.17 # fragglet : cool thing from kro$oft ? 17.38.24 # heh 17.39.06 # just usable but surely not "cool" nor "clean" 17.39.17 # ;) 17.39.45 # I just saw someone with THC in his name use the word clean. 17.40.09 # http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20020722l.gif 17.40.21 # THC is surely more clean than microsoft bunch of crooks ... 17.42.36 # The problem is: They're high on money... 17.42.50 # .net is basically java but microsoft have the power to make it succeed 17.43.17 # fragglet: you are talking about C#. .Net is vastly larger and more sinister. 17.43.27 # i wouldnt call it sinister 17.43.40 # its like java but with more languages 17.43.59 # which is one of the cool things 17.44.04 # ant with this C# you can get the uisumulator running? 17.44.06 # again, you are only looking at a small subset. step back a bit and look at the big pictire. 17.44.13 # i am 17.44.54 # its all it is really 17.44.59 # C# is not .Net. CLR is not .Net. 17.45.00 # if you look at the diagrams for the java framework 17.45.11 # and the diagrams for .net 17.45.14 # they are almost identical 17.45.22 # with different names 17.45.31 # it's just parts of the "kill'them'all" Kro$oft business plan .... 17.45.53 # yeah whatever 17.45.55 # and this plan looks working very good... 17.46.15 # jvm -> clr 17.46.18 # c# -> java 17.46.26 # The .Net plan also includes Passport, Hailstorm etc. It's not a language, it's a business model. 17.46.26 # er switch those heh 17.46.55 # thats just the authentication part 17.47.00 # which is really just a library 17.47.23 # and from what i understand its modular 17.47.35 # backdoors, spyware, really modular... 17.48.13 # bobTHC: please continue, everything you write makes me crack up laughing :) 17.48.28 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 17.48.54 # fragglet: don't you stop either :) 17.49.00 # heh 17.49.05 # hey : fragglet : I'm using win2K 17.49.11 # hahahaha 17.49.34 # look @ CTCP version... 17.49.36 # anyway i think its just really good technology 17.50.04 # mhaha 17.50.13 # if you see past your microsoft prejudices and look at it properly you can see 17.50.38 # don't confuse "prejudice" with "experience" 17.52.46 Quit Heltrskeltr349 () 17.53.44 # sorry, didn't mean to kill the discussion ;) 17.53.53 # ;) 17.56.52 # Is there any code that relates to decoding mp3 frameheaders or similar yet? 17.57.09 # yes, in id3.c 17.57.24 # Thanx 17.58.51 # fragglet :at all It's just an ethical and seriousness question. 18.00.06 # I'm surely too romantic (perhaps pots do that)... 18.02.47 Part langhaarrocker 18.03.21 # CU soon... 18.03.34 Part bobTHC 18.05.35 Join nuphem [0] (~him10101@66-108-139-81.nyc.rr.com) 18.06.03 # hi! can anyone help me? 18.06.13 # problems with rockbox recently 18.07.16 # what problems? 18.08.06 # 2 of em 18.08.22 # 1- none of my directories show up on v 1.3 or later 18.08.33 # i haven't loaded any earlier ones since 1.2 (i was away) 18.09.09 # 2- i mentioned this 2 weeks ago-- when i disconnect my usb i just get a message mount = -1 18.09.53 # maybe it's the new "hide option", or not zagor? 18.10.01 # could be 18.10.02 # i toggled all of those settigns 18.10.06 # nothing helped 18.10.27 # unless there's something major that i missed 18.13.23 # nuphem: have you ever seen directories with rockbox? 18.13.51 # yeah, sure 18.16.33 # since when doesn't it work? 18.17.24 # well as i said, i havent tried anything between v.1.2 and v.1.3, but somewhere in there it stopped working 18.23.45 # okay, rewind/pause/playback bug should be fixed 18.24.33 # anyone have or know where I can find really, really long mp3 files? 18.25.14 # no idea 18.25.23 # how long is that? 18.25.55 # bug reports 3 hours and 5 hours, heh 18.26.24 # oh... i dont either then 18.26.29 Join webbie_ [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 18.27.12 # so zagor have any ideas on either problem? 18.29.37 Quit webbie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.29.47 # can't say I do. you probably have some strange partition or something. 18.36.00 Quit nuphem (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.47.10 # i have a question not related with rockbox.. just if someone knows how to help me: i have a ntfs partition and want to make it fat32 (so i can access it from both linux and windows) how can i do this without loosing my info? 18.47.32 # quelsaruk: backup, reformat, restore 18.47.43 # 40GB? 18.47.57 # actually, linux can read ntfs disks. it just can't write to them. 18.47.59 # that's my last option.. 18.48.04 # i know 18.48.16 # but i need to write into it 18.48.37 # maybe you can borrow another harddisk to make a temporary backup? 18.49.01 # there's no way to "convert" from one file system to another 18.49.34 # well, you can "migrate" from fat32 to nfts 18.49.47 # really? that's quite a trick... 18.49.58 # but i can't find the way to migrate from ntfs to fat32 18.50.17 # i think it's just a one-way migration 18.50.25 # probably 18.50.27 # Zagor, it can write but in experimental way ;) 18.50.31 # ntfs 18.50.38 # really? 18.50.43 # heh, yeah. I wouldn't trust it though :) 18.51.21 # yes i did set it on and have be able to write into a ntfs 18.51.33 # well... i suppose i will backup my info in another drive and format the partition 18.51.50 # it's better :) 18.52.26 # :) 18.54.13 Join nuphem [0] (~him10101@66-108-139-81.nyc.rr.com) 18.54.30 # sorry, i had some internet problems 18.55.15 # but im back and i know you're all just so excited... 18.55.29 # ... 18.55.32 # XDDDD 18.57.48 # shall i repeat my problems? 18.58.19 # no, nuphem 18.58.27 # but i have no idea... 18.58.36 # oh 18.58.51 # would it help to know when each of them began? 18.59.02 # nuphem: yes 18.59.06 Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 18.59.09 # Good evening 18.59.21 # have you turned on show hidden files?? 18.59.21 # nuphem: can you try the daily builds and see if any of them work? 18.59.23 # Zagor: you're here 24/7 to prevent ugly code from entering the CVS? 18.59.26 # :-) 18.59.52 # dwihno: yup :) 18.59.58 # * Zagor is The Code Police 18.59.58 # quelsaruk: yes 19.00.23 # zagor: old ones i assume. recent ones doent seem to work 19.00.35 # nuphem: yes. try the oldest first 19.00.52 # okie dokie 19.00.55 # * dwihno is gfx dude, the sidekick of the code police ;D 19.01.37 # we should make a movie 19.01.44 # Yeah 19.01.53 # Bruce Willis would play me 19.02.01 # woody allen would play me 19.02.04 # and Rowan Atkinson would do the Zagor part :) 19.02.16 # hehe, excellent choice! 19.02.34 # But who would do Linus and Bagder? 19.02.37 # jajaja 19.02.43 # The Olsen-twins? :) 19.03.23 # Zagor: is there custom WPS support for the recorder in? 19.03.40 # nope 19.03.51 # at least i haven't seen it in the cvs logs 19.04.10 # mkay 19.04.16 # It would be neat though 19.04.24 # it sure would 19.04.49 # but the "parse" mode is gay 19.05.04 # it bugs out on me every day 19.05.08 # :-) 19.05.15 # I just want it to go away 19.05.20 # poetry ? 19.05.24 # So what do you say? 19.05.48 # nah 19.05.53 # just me wanting the code fixed :) 19.06.21 # I comment the "strip mp3"-part to keep it intact 19.06.30 # i'm currently doing a Massive Rewrite of the wps, so you'll have to wait a bit 19.07.02 # :( 19.07.10 # Why rewrite it? 19.07.17 # because it's a horrible mess 19.07.24 # MR-WPS - the massively rewritten wps :D 19.07.33 # ok zagor well i get some new weird shit with daily build from the 24th (oldest on the site) 19.07.50 # nuphem: such as? 19.08.35 # well with case sensitive off 19.08.54 # i get nothing, same as what i have gotten on other versions 19.09.07 # which is just a cursor and no folders 19.09.44 # but with it on, i get folder icons with ???? as the first name and ????????.??? as the rest 19.10.23 # and i get Roc?# as the very last entry 19.10.29 # seriously wacko stuff 19.11.03 # i can give more details about its wackness but i assume we're beyond all normal signs here? 19.11.06 # Roc?# is the settings sector. this means it's mounting the partition on the wrong start sector 19.11.17 # yes, way beyond... 19.11.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.11.41 # so is that good news to see Roc?# -- dont we know the problem at least somewhat 19.12.58 # not really... it can't find a sane partition, so tries to mount the disk raw, and it fails. that's my best guess. 19.13.07 # you are using windows, right? 19.13.11 # yeah 19.13.56 # but i do have access to linux 19.14.53 # you do? can you plug in the archos and run "fdisk -l /dev/sda" ? 19.16.07 # well to be honest i cant really get to it now and have internet access... the network around here is really messed up 19.16.15 # at least for the time being 19.16.22 # ok :( 19.16.29 # i'd like to see how the disk looks 19.17.03 # but fdisk is in dos, i can do that, right 19.17.11 # or something with it at least 19.17.11 # no you need the linux fdisk 19.17.20 # dos fdisk can't see the usb drive 19.21.05 # if you have partition magic you can see the usb drive 19.21.21 # Ah 19.21.23 # Now I remember 19.21.33 # I was supposed to ask you Zagor about some hardware stuff... 19.22.10 # Zagor: I've been looking around for an external USB 2.0 cabinet. Is there a risk there's another ATA-USB bridge than the ISD-300? 19.22.20 # probably 19.22.39 # Don't say so! :( 19.22.41 # *sob* 19.23.46 # is there some way to check what kind of bridge hardware there is without tearing the unit apart? 19.24.10 # ask the vendor 19.24.20 # or plug it into a linux box and examine /proc/bus/usb 19.24.36 # every USB controller has a unique ID, just like PCI devices 19.24.52 # isd300 is 05ab:0060 19.24.53 # ah, okay 19.25.28 Quit nuphem (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.25.41 Join nuphem [0] (~him10101@66-108-139-81.nyc.rr.com) 19.26.03 # As long as the bridge hardware is mass storage compliant... 19.26.15 # well thats an example of our excellent network here 19.26.46 # nuphem: looks like fun :) 19.26.49 # the taiwanese company skymaster has made some USB 1.1 cabinets which uses the ISD-200, so I mailed them and asked about the USB 2 model, no answers :( 19.28.16 # so is there anything useful i can do through windows? 19.28.45 # nuphem: i'm not sure. maybe partition magic can tell you how the disk is partitioned? 19.28.49 # partition magic? 19.29.08 # (it was a retoric question) 19.29.10 # yeah i was just trying to convince my brother to give it to me 19.31.24 # aaah. cut down wps_show() from 567 to 320 lines 19.31.31 # 230 even 19.31.52 # hope it works ;) 19.32.17 # wau 19.33.55 # btw zagor i had that other issue when i disconnect the usb, i get a message that reads 'mount = -1' 19.34.12 # nuphem: it's probably the same thing 19.35.15 # even though it worked way back when i could actually see folders? 19.35.54 # nuphem: now i can remember something like that happend to me 1 year ago 19.35.59 # using archos firmware 19.36.17 # nuphem: i guess you don't want to try reformatting the disk? 19.36.34 # no not again... well i suppose it's not so bad if i just back it up first... 19.36.34 # you dont need to format 19.36.54 # if only i can remember how i made it work... 19.37.12 # no im sure this is all a result of windows having partitioned my disk 19.37.23 # yes.. 19.37.27 # is something like that 19.37.37 # shit, i can't remember the english word 19.37.49 # in spanish is "tabla de contenidos" 19.38.00 # arggg 19.38.08 # table of contents? 19.38.17 # umm 19.38.21 # yes 19.38.22 # XD 19.38.33 # educated guess ;) 19.39.06 # archos had an utility to repair it, but just worked on AJB6B with a 6 Gb hd 19.39.34 # so i repaired it by myself 19.39.43 # but i can't remember how 19.39.55 # only 6gb? 19.40.17 # yes.. i tried with my 30Gb hd and didn't work 19.40.59 # oh hey that reminds me 19.41.10 # why can't you toggle repeat? 19.41.22 # i like when my playlists end 19.41.34 # have you ever disconnected usb cable before umounting the drive?? 19.41.34 # well, we just haven't fixed that yet 19.42.06 # oh ok 19.42.25 # yeah sometimes it just slips my mind, all that unmounting stuff 19.42.34 # that's why you have this problem 19.42.35 # XD 19.43.25 # what has changed since v. 1.2 era that doesn't let recent versions cope with this problem 19.43.28 # quelsaruk: what does "XD" mean? 19.43.35 # a smiley? 19.43.38 # yes 19.43.43 # ok 19.44.09 # is like :D but when you have your eyes closed... they seem to be a x 19.44.25 # (is quite common in spain, sorry) 19.46.02 # nuphem: have you tried 1.2 now and verified it works? 19.46.15 # oh yeah it always worked 19.46.32 # when did you last run it? 19.47.07 # just now 19.47.25 # ok 19.48.55 # uhhh, have an idea... 19.49.04 # but I would really like to see your partition table 19.49.19 # 1.2 searched for valid FAT32 partitions, and only mounted those 19.49.21 Join fulama [0] (ss@Mix-Pointe-a-Pitre-102-4-117.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.49.39 # 1.3 tries to mount each partition in sequence, and stops when it succeeds mounting one 19.49.42 Nick fulama is now known as Dexter (ss@Mix-Pointe-a-Pitre-102-4-117.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.50.23 # so if you have one bogus fat partition first, it will be mounted by 1.3 instead of the proper later partition 19.50.30 # hello 19.50.33 # hi Dexter 19.50.38 # hi dexter 19.50.38 # hi 19.50.42 # who speak french ??? 19.51.00 # alkorr.. i suppose 19.52.12 # well i can guess where that bogus one came about 19.52.36 # Zagor: just one question, can you make rockbox to stop playing after the last song of a directory is played? 19.52.44 # quelsaruk: currently not 19.53.20 # nuphem: we did it like this because so many archoses have wrong partition type and thus rockbox refused to mount them 19.53.28 # i know currently not... but as you are re-writing wps, maybe you would like to change that "playing" option :) 19.53.51 # quelsaruk: it's a bit more than just the wps i'm afraid :) 19.54.08 # :) 19.55.38 # Zagor one question about programing, if you don't mind 19.55.43 # sure 19.55.53 # well i'll try to get my hands on partition magic and then try and repartition 19.56.10 # i'll report back maybe tomorrow 19.57.11 # until then, goodbye all 19.57.26 # bye nuphem 19.57.36 Quit nuphem () 20.02.32 Quit hardeep (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.03.00 Join manitee [0] (~jiffy@rrcs-central-65-31-76-104.biz.rr.com) 20.06.27 Join bmidy [0] (bmidy@AMetz-101-1-1-76.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.06.34 # ls 20.06.45 # hi all 20.07.01 Quit bmidy (Client Quit) 20.09.45 # hi folks 20.09.48 # anyone here? 20.11.42 Part Dexter 20.12.02 # humm... who dares to awake me !!! 20.13.42 # hehe 20.13.45 # manitee: sure, we're here 20.13.47 Join bmidy [0] (bmidy@AMetz-101-1-1-76.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.15.32 # hi 20.15.44 # i was wondering about the customizable WPS coming in 1.4 20.15.56 # what kind of features are you intending to put in? 20.16.23 # just simple customization. you choose which line shows which info. 20.16.32 # and which line scrolls 20.16.43 # hi allm i m back from workm so whats new about the scrollbar in the file directory? 20.16.59 # bmidy: new? 20.17.18 # i dont suppose there is a way to put more than 2 lines of text on the studio 20 screen is there. 20.17.26 # manitee: no 20.17.53 # dang. 20.18.13 # the smallish display is really my only complaint about the unit 20.18.54 # sorry Zagor i mean is it in the cvs ? and does it works ? 20.19.02 # bmidy: it's not in cvs yet 20.19.36 # Good evening. 20.20.11 # Did a couple of good test drives with the stock firmware this evening, it didn't skip at all. 20.20.17 # ww 20.20.31 # Will try out the current CVS code with the last ata fixes during the weekend. 20.20.36 # Hes: ok 20.20.46 # hes: i was having the issue to, but 1.3 seemed to fix it 20.20.54 Ctcp Version on #rockbox from bmidy!bmidy@AMetz-101-1-1-76.abo.wanadoo.fr 20.21.24 # clear 20.21.38 # manitee: it didn't for me 20.21.44 # mine is different and really bad 20.22.32 # hes: huh 20.25.46 # ok all im out - talk to you tomorrow 20.25.48 # * manitee waves 20.25.51 Quit manitee () 20.34.13 # that "rap" caca? 20.34.34 Quit Synthe ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 20.38.49 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 20.43.54 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 20.46.21 Quit quelsaruk ("Aplicación Saliendo") 20.47.07 Join hardepe [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 20.48.38 Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 20.52.36 Join merwin [0] (merwin@1Cust31.tnt20.tpa2.da.uu.net) 20.52.44 # * merwin is getting pissed off at gcc :) 20.53.46 # I am the keeper of the Schwartz 21.01.33 # May the Schwartz be with you 21.03.47 # i see your schwartz is as big as mine! 21.11.08 # how do you compile the source with vc 21.11.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.13.05 # which source ? which vc ? 21.14.01 # the recorder source, vc6 21.14.05 # recorder sim i mean 21.14.49 # oh well it seems there is very few people who compiled for vc6, since I found out the makefile for vc6 is wrong 21.15.16 # how would i go about compiling the vc6 makefile? 21.15.45 # well i think you should create a new project and add files 21.16.42 # i dunno anything about vc 21.16.43 # heh 21.16.51 # arf ! 21.17.02 # you're definately stuck :/ 21.17.30 # i've no vc6 and i intend to install vc7 sometime 21.17.34 # i just can't compile the sim, no matter what i try 21.17.36 Quit Snorlax ("gittar ny!") 21.17.38 # with anything 21.17.51 # get the binary :/ 21.17.58 # i need it for testing my patches 21.18.08 # nmake -f Makefile.vc6 21.18.12 # that should work 21.18.38 # what path do i need to have in vc6? 21.18.39 # i tried it, tell me if it works because it never worked for me 21.21.10 # merwin: i've only compiled for command line, haven't tried from within the vc6 ide 21.21.16 # s/for/from 21.24.03 # hardepe: i need the path that i need to include though 21.24.09 # path= 21.27.25 # Hah. With proportional fonts, the scroll speed indicator in scroll speed setting is not long enough to start scrolling 8-) 21.27.26 # merwin: hmmm, i just tried it and didn't have to specify an include path 21.27.28 # let me fix that 8-) 21.28.41 # hardepe: type path and tell me if there's any vc in the path? 21.29.27 # merwin: oh, that's the path you were referring to... --hold 21.29.40 Join ecHs [0] (~exxe@p508B1A53.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.29.47 # heya echs 21.29.50 # hey merwin 21.30.11 # i just realized i got a player(new) :) 21.30.15 # heh 21.30.40 # loadable fonts? :) 21.30.44 # I think i need to reboot 21.30.47 # merwin: take a look at VC98\bin\vcvars32.bat. That sets all the environment variables/paths you need 21.30.52 # ecHs: no loadable fonts for player 21.31.15 # so whats the advantage of the player(new)? 21.31.22 # ecHs: just a different lcd 21.31.27 # no real difference 21.32.31 # if $(overflow) == true; do until $(0); buy(archos_recorder); 21.32.33 # hardepe: worked... the long rectangle screen is the recorder, right? 21.32.49 Join elinenbe|sleeps [0] (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) 21.32.57 Nick elinenbe|sleeps is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) 21.33.20 # hello 21.33.26 # hi there 21.33.35 Nick ecHs is now known as ecHs^testing (~exxe@p508B1A53.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.33.48 # hey elinenbe 21.33.54 # hey there. 21.34.03 # who did the scrollbar patch? 21.35.17 # I have been using proportional fonts and loadable fonts and there a a bunch of bugs. 21.35.37 # first off, some places should NOT use loadble fonts even if they are loaded. 21.35.50 # yeah 21.36.01 # such as the games, some of the menus (clock setting menu, etc) 21.36.21 # these should just use the default font. 21.37.22 # hardepe: how do i specify for it to build the recorder? 21.38.51 # huh? 21.43.40 # * merwin built the recorder sim! woo! 21.44.12 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAB3C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.46.31 Join Silly_Fly [0] (luk@192.117.3.3) 21.54.17 Quit merwin () 21.55.04 Quit edx (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 NSplit lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 21.55.04 Quit hardepe (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit sylvr (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit datazone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit pimlottc (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit adi|home (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit Jbell73 (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit _seb_ (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit mbr (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit dwihno|gone (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit PiotR (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit fragglet (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit RipnetUK (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit alkorr (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.04 Quit h0bby (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.05 Quit mecraw|away (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.05 Quit PsycoXul (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.05 Quit juergen (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.05 Quit Tumm (lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.56.14 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 21.56.41 Join Dexter [0] (~ss@Mix-Pointe-a-Pitre-102-4-117.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.56.56 Quit Dexter (Client Quit) 21.57.23 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 21.59.19 NHeal lerouge.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 21.59.19 NJoin alkorr [0] (alkorr@ASte-Genev-Bois-110-1-1-138.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.59.19 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 21.59.19 NJoin RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 21.59.19 NJoin h0bby [0] (Hobby@h24-83-178-201.vf.shawcable.net) 21.59.19 NJoin mecraw|away [0] (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) 21.59.19 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-219.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.59.19 NJoin juergen [0] (~juergen@bob.mobilearia.com) 21.59.19 NJoin Tumm [0] (coyote@212.85.67.96) 22.00.06 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.36 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-131.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 22.01.36 NJoin sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) 22.01.36 NJoin datazone [0] ([exHjfH2mg@207.136.36.203) 22.01.36 NJoin pimlottc [0] (~pimlottc@a1-1b012.neo.rr.com) 22.01.36 NJoin Jbell73 [0] (~none@adsl-66-127-224-114.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 22.01.36 Mode "#rockbox +o adi|home " by lerouge.openprojects.net 22.01.59 NJoin edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAB3C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.02.24 # edx: are you sure about the makefile for vc6 ? 22.02.33 # i did tried it without success 22.02.44 # Arrgh. The current CVS firmware still skips at least with USE_SLEEP 22.04.36 # :( 22.05.46 # The wait for rdy change didn't fix that 22.05.55 # I'll try with USE_STANDBY next 22.06.09 # alkorr: what waws your problem? 22.06.37 # At least the stock archos firmware doesn't skip with this new disk so it can't be physically bad 22.06.47 # just trips on our firmware at times 22.06.49 # well i cannot compile uisim with vc6 because the vc6 makefile doesn't seem to be correct 22.07.37 # Hes: we should add read retry soon to see if that's the problem 22.08.16 # i notice there is no error notification in ata.c 22.08.22 Join datazone-work [0] (~datazone@chaos.iadfw.net) 22.08.33 # mmh 22.08.49 # just mins away from having my 30GB drive in my player :) 22.09.57 # alkor: the vc6 makefile doesn ot work indeed.. i think 22.10.00 # wait.. 22.10.26 # using the nmake tool: 22.10.27 # http://codeforce.dyn.ee/rockbox/autocvs/ 22.10.29 # it compiles 22.10.35 # tkae the normal makefile 22.10.51 # or no.. i think i 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(hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 22.29.20 NJoin PiotR [0] (~piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 22.29.20 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 22.29.20 NJoin mbr [0] (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) 22.29.20 NJoin _seb_ [0] (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.29.20 NJoin Tumm [0] (coyote@212.85.67.96) 22.29.20 NJoin juergen [0] (~juergen@bob.mobilearia.com) 22.29.20 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-219.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 22.29.20 NJoin mecraw|away [0] (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) 22.29.20 NJoin h0bby [0] (Hobby@h24-83-178-201.vf.shawcable.net) 22.29.20 NJoin RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 22.29.20 NJoin fragglet [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 22.29.20 NJoin alkorr [0] (alkorr@ASte-Genev-Bois-110-1-1-138.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.29.49 Nick ecHs^testing is now known as ecHs^4w4y (~exxe@p508B1A53.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.31.48 # oh we all love, the wibbely wobbely net 22.31.54 # sing with me! 22.35.16 # "oh we all love, the wibbely wobbely net" 22.35.18 # hows that? 22.35.21 # was i off key? 22.36.06 # excellent. i'll sell recordings. 22.37.50 # would you give them free to rockbox users? 22.39.04 # Sure, as soon as I recoup the $5000 fee i owe Thomson Multimedia 22.40.16 # lol 22.46.10 # would you implement the vertical scroll bar? this is one feature I actually miss from the archos firmware....... 22.46.34 # yes we'll have it soon 22.47.18 # 10x. while your'e at it - maybe use F2 to toggle it on/off , as it's not used for anything else right now.....? 22.48.19 # hehe. everyone has wishes for f2. luckily, so do I. and it's a bit more than just hooking it to a single function :) 22.48.54 # Holding F3 will get you to a View Config screen, toggling status bar, scroll bar, menu help strings etc. 22.49.12 # Holding F2 will get you to a Play Config screen, toggling repeat, shuffle etc. 22.51.07 Quit hardepe ("Leaving") 22.51.22 # now if I could just get those extra 18 hours/day I ordered... 22.51.37 # can rockbox charge the batteries when the unit is off? 'cause when I'm not turning mine on, and I plug the charger, I get the archos charging screen...... 22.51.52 # no, we can't 22.52.05 # yeah, I ordered 12 more hours from those basterds ages ago :) 23.01.04 Join lithermon [0] (j@modem-1106.binger.dialup.pol.co.uk) 23.02.26 Join m5jaz [0] (~chatzilla@corporate.tachyon.net) 23.02.41 # list 23.03.12 # list? 23.03.50 # sorry, don't mind me... trying to type "/list" :) 23.04.33 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 23.05.11 # yoyo 23.07.44 # hi merwin 23.08.50 # can players not see when the charger is attached? 23.08.59 # i think they can? 23.09.13 # they can in archos 23.09.22 # the battery charing led animates 23.09.27 # precisely 23.09.28 # er lcd icon 23.09.39 # (I mean in the archos firmware) 23.09.46 # we don't show that, for some reason 23.09.53 # *fixing* 23.10.05 # yeah I noticed that 23.11.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.25.14 Quit lithermon ("[BX] Eat, drink and be merry...for tomorrow we die") 23.25.24 Quit bmidy (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.27.25 # Zagor: i'm stumped on why the custom wps isn't scrolling the custom string.. it's scrolling all of the other wps types though (they're all being fed through the custom wps also) 23.27.35 # Zagor: on the bright side, i got the win23 sim to compile with vc6 23.27.38 # so i can test it 23.27.45 # nice! 23.27.50 # maybe you could document it? 23.28.15 # Zagor: vc6 was easy... it's like 2 commands 23.29.09 # Zagor: the weird part of the scrolling is that it's being fed through the same function to start the scrolling. I'm going nuts trying to figure this out :) It scrolls one letter, then goes back to not scrolling. 23.32.37 # hum, strange 23.32.55 # yeah :) I've got a couple of ideas left 23.33.02 # ooh i love cleaning code! 23.33.21 # that fresh smell of clean slates. exhilirating! 23.33.41 # heh... once i get that resolved, i can work on making it only update the line with the time on it 23.34.11 # clean slates 23.34.11 # ? 23.34.17 # merwin: you'd better wait. i'm ripping up the carpet :) 23.34.46 # Zagor: ripping up the carpet? 23.35.05 # a metaphor 23.35.16 # Zagor: yes, what are you doing though? 23.35.19 # redoing a lot of things 23.35.31 # wps & status bar at the moment 23.35.53 # Zagor: are you modifying my code also? because i changed how the wps works too :) 23.36.53 # display_custom_wps() is unchanged. it's wps_show() that is now split into four or five functions 23.37.13 # getting rid of all the state handling 23.37.16 # OK... i use a refresh_wps() also 23.37.33 # ahh, it will be nice to have a clean wps 23.37.36 # it'll be a nice merge then ;) 23.37.57 # can you build a rec simulator now? 23.38.03 # yup 23.38.15 # goodie 23.38.19 # the sim doesn't load my wps.config file though 23.38.29 # so i had to do an #ifdef SIMULATOR and fake one 23.38.51 # it should load the file 23.39.10 # oh, maybe the winsim doesn't like using forward-slashes? 23.39.18 # the win32 sim is a little screwed.. it doesn't use the archos folder either 23.39.26 # it uses the root folder 23.39.27 # !? that's bad 23.39.38 # i brought that up a LONG time ago :) 23.40.09 # yeah, but you windows types need to keep the winsim up to date. I can't, I don't have windows. 23.40.57 # i dont' know how any of the sim stuff works. Who built it in the first place? 23.41.03 # edx 23.41.32 # is he around still? 23.43.04 # yeah, he pops in sometimes 23.49.43 Join merwin- [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 23.50.41 Quit merwin (Remote closed the connection) 23.50.53 Nick merwin- is now known as merwin (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 23.51.26 # under 24 hours until the great baseball strike of 2002 23.51.46 # huh? 23.52.22 # all of the baseball players in the states are going on strike because they aren't getting paid enough 23.52.29 # only in the multi-millions :) 23.52.55 # oooh, poor souls 23.53.02 # yeah... heh 23.53.18 # it'll kill baseball in the states for a very long time though. 23.53.53 # i'm so devastated. honestly... 23.53.58 # ;) 23.54.23 # i'm a euro bum, I've never cared about baseball :) 23.54.42 # it's the top story in the news :) That and we're sending Lance Bass from 'N Sync into space. Yay! 23.56.58 # I hope the russians keep him up there with them. 23.57.26 # "I'm sorry Lance. I'm afraid I can't let you do that..." 23.57.31 # haha 23.57.51 # oh my god: 23.57.51 # You have 75 unread messages: 23.57.51 # Inbox (2), Bulk (8), Archos Rockbox (65) 23.58.00 # hehe 23.58.04 # that's what happens when i leave my e-mail for 10 hours