--- Log for 31.08.102  Server: brunner.openprojects.net  Channel: #rockbox
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00.00.03 #       <ironi> whe ni start a song, the display remains in the file window
00.00.11 #       <ironi> ah i see
00.00.20 #       <ironi> i have to push on to switch to audio
00.00.52 #       <ironi> whats the litte square ont he right
00.00.55 #       <PsycoXul> yeah i dunno why that is, it was doing that for me before this addition too
00.00.58 #       <ironi> next to the seconds ticking
00.01.02 #       <PsycoXul> ironi: thats the progress bar
00.01.13 #       <PsycoXul> it should start off blank and then fill in from left to right, top to bottom
00.01.20 #       <ironi> hehe
00.01.22 #       <ironi> =)
00.01.58 #       <ironi> the arrow is hiding the first letter on the menus
00.02.05 #       <ironi> on the active row of a menu
00.02.09 #       <PsycoXul> hmm
00.02.13 #       <LinusN> well, gotta get some sleep. night all!
00.02.13 #       <PsycoXul> it is?
00.02.19 #       <ironi> ->eneral Settings
00.02.22 #       <ironi> like that
00.02.28 #       <ironi> before it starts to scroll
00.02.30 #       <ironi> yep
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00.03.01 #       <ironi> wow
00.03.41 #       <ironi> i wonder what archos would say if theis project result was presented tot them
00.03.48 #       <PsycoXul> heh
00.03.49 #       <ironi> maybe they would consider open source developmewnt
00.04.14 #       <ironi> i mean this impresses me...so nice UI on a kinda lousy display
00.04.33 #       <PsycoXul> heh
00.07.32 #       <PsycoXul> somebody needs to figure out a way to make the custom WPS support parsed info and use it when lacking id3, and still be able to fall back to filename if there's not enough to parse or something
00.11.13 #       <PsycoXul> that mod i sent you should also display .txt files, though not very well and it's not well tested.. heh
00.13.20 #       <nunya> ok... i'm new... what's WPS?
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00.13.41 #       <PsycoXul> the while playing screen
00.13.55 #       <nunya> ahhhhh.... i knew that... was just testing ya.  ;)
00.13.58 #       <PsycoXul> :p
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00.15.38 #       <nunya> while i was delirious the other night, i had a dream (hallucination?) - someone figgered out a way to connect a large display unit to the jukebox so we could see more tag / filename info at once instead of scrolling.
00.17.17 #       <langhaarrocker> I just have a nightmare about a jukebox that need wheels to be carried around.
00.18.51 #       <nunya> LOL!
00.20.48 #       <PsycoXul> i had dreams about having and using my archos before it even existed...
00.20.49 #       <PsycoXul> heh
00.21.11 #       <langhaarrocker> And I have a vision of a uisimultor that works with windows.
00.21.41 #       <PsycoXul> nunya: but that wouldn't be too terribly difficult if you could find the screen to do it and some controller for it that could take display info from the serial port
00.21.59 #       <PsycoXul> and had a bidirectional serial port mod
00.21.59 #       <PsycoXul> heh
00.22.01 #       <nunya> serial port?  u mean usb ?
00.22.25 #       <PsycoXul> no, the usb port's only accessable by the dedicated usb-ATA chip
00.22.35 #       <PsycoXul> so we can't do anything with it
00.22.54 #       <nunya> how bout... throw it out & put usb2.0 in?????
00.23.01 #       <PsycoXul> but there's a 9600bps serial port too
00.23.07 #       <nunya> there is?
00.23.11 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
00.23.22 #       <PsycoXul> it only comes wired for input though
00.23.25 #       <PsycoXul> for the remote controll
00.23.40 #       <PsycoXul> but you can make a mod and wire it bi-directional to the line-in
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00.23.44 #       <nunya> coupoe wires here... little solder there... some magic powder .. and boom! we're cooking!
00.23.59 #       <PsycoXul> there's instructions for it on the rockbox website
00.24.31 #       <PsycoXul> along with instructions for an adapter to hook it to a PC serial port
00.24.35 #       <nunya> cool... hafta check it out.  bunch of EE's at work might be able to dream up something
00.25.31 #       <ironi> txt-files?
00.25.35 #       <ironi> *gotta try*
00.26.02 #       <ironi> they have to end with .txt right
00.26.09 #       <langhaarrocker> any cygwin users up? Which file must I edit to get my path change permanent?
00.27.24 #       <ironi> text file...lets see
00.28.14 #       <langhaarrocker> there probably is some shell script somewhere but all I find in my home dir is a .bash_history
00.28.20 #       <ironi> my test.txt in the root dir is not visible
00.28.33 #       <ironi> PsycoXul: how can i read text files then
00.29.25 #       <langhaarrocker> irony: less test.txt
00.29.50 #       <langhaarrocker> provided you use unix
00.29.57 #       <langhaarrocker> or cygwin
00.29.57 #       <ironi> well on the player
00.30.11 #       <ironi> i figured it out, i had to turn off thew m3u filter
00.30.14 #       <ironi> and there it was
00.30.20 #       <ironi> the text file
00.30.26 #       <ironi> nice scrolling text reader
00.30.44 #       <ironi> "look, my 6000 doubles as a e-book reader"
00.30.45 #       <ironi> heh
00.30.53 #       <ironi> that could be done with the recorder perhaps
00.31.12 #       <ironi> hm or how about a archos karaoke(tm)
00.31.24 #       <ironi> listen ot the song while the lyricsa are displayed on the screen
00.31.27 #       <ironi> and sing along
00.31.28 #       <ironi> haha
00.31.33 #       <ironi> i am full of useless ideas
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00.31.42 #       <dwihno|party> I want karaoke!
00.31.48 #       <ironi> hehe
00.31.53 #       <langhaarrocker> Hm. Can the text be interleaved into the mp3 stream?
00.31.57 #       <dwihno|party> I'm the master when it comes to karaoke
00.32.08 #       <dwihno|party> you mean some kind of voice synchronizing?
00.32.08 #       <ironi> i think there is some standard format for karaoke text files
00.32.18 #       <ironi> at least there are some common karaoke apps for windows
00.32.47 #       <dwihno|party> dunno
00.32.54 #       <ironi> well anyway
00.32.54 #       <dwihno|party> probably some japan'ish rubbish
00.32.55 #       <ironi> gotta go
00.32.59 #       <ironi> yup
00.33.06 #       <ironi> i looked into a couple of yearts ago
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00.33.22 #       <ironi> wonder how development is progressing on the karaoke app side
00.33.22 #       <ironi> hehe
00.33.36 #       <ironi> im tired i should sleep instead of psyching you with this rubbish
00.33.38 #       <ironi> night
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00.45.40 #       <PsycoXul> heh
00.47.21 #       <PsycoXul> The SingIt Lyric Displayer is an XMMS plugin which displays formatted lyrics, including id3v2xx lyrics. It consists of the displayer and an integrated editor which allows one to easily insert time stamps, edit the text, and export & strip HTML. 
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01.12.53 #       <pimlottc> hey you could make rockbox do that if you really wanted
01.13.04 #       <pimlottc> well, not the editting
01.16.11 #       <PsycoXul> heh
01.16.24 #       <PsycoXul> actualy even the editing, though it wouldn't be fun :p
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01.30.39 #       <pimlottc> rockbox portable karoke
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02.12.40 #       <Hes> örrr
02.19.53 #       <pimlottc> arrr
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05.53.30 #       <Jbell73> nunya:  Try using a program like PArtition Magic...
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06.13.54 #       * merwin is going to pass out if he doesn't get food, but rockbox comes first :)
06.17.39 #       <pimlottc> ya eating sucks sometimes
06.21.18 #       <merwin> :)
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06.26.56 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: hey
06.27.49 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: the problem with the progress bar was something to do with bin2int or whatever...
06.28.02 #       <merwin> yeah... who changed it?
06.28.31 #       <merwin> i'm close to committing the full working one
06.28.36 #       <merwin> implemented
06.28.56 #       <PsycoXul> i think zagor changed the wps.c stuff to wps.c and wps-display.c
06.29.26 #       <PsycoXul> and i had already fixed it before then, and i merged my fix with wps-display.c and sent the diff to bagder who comitted it
06.29.39 #       <merwin> ahh
06.29.45 #       <merwin> thanks :)
06.29.50 #       <PsycoXul> no, thank you :p
06.29.54 #       <PsycoXul> i've been using it since :p
06.30.01 #       <merwin> it'll be working in the custom_wps :)
06.30.08 #       <PsycoXul> cool
06.31.07 #       <PsycoXul> btw i made it have 36 steps and start blank.. it makes more sense i think, than starting with 1 step already shown
06.31.25 #       <merwin> yeah
06.31.27 #       <merwin> i noticed, good :)
06.31.49 #       <merwin> except i changed it to display as black beginning, going to white... looks better IMHO
06.32.08 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.32.19 #       <PsycoXul> that certainly would be easier to tell how far you are
06.32.22 #       <merwin> yeah
06.32.31 #       <pimlottc> why do you say that
06.33.25 #       <merwin> you start full, so you know exactly how much there is... when you start empty, there's just alot of white space
06.33.53 #       <pimlottc> I don't see the diff, when its' all empty you know you're at the start...
06.34.26 #       <merwin> pimlottc: but there's alot of white space above and below... you don't know exactly when the end is
06.34.53 #       <pimlottc> the end would be a full block
06.35.05 #       <merwin> yes, but there's no border around the block
06.35.30 #       <PsycoXul> i want it to start empty then fill in the top left, work down, turn at the bottom, work to the right, turn up and work up the right side to the top, then go left and then start zig-zagging down the rest of the way
06.35.34 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.35.55 #       <merwin> that would be neat
06.36.42 #       <pimlottc> you start with empty and end at full or start at full and end at empty
06.36.54 #       <pimlottc> I don't see how one is significantly better than the other
06.37.09 #       <PsycoXul> its a matter of preference
06.37.34 #       <PsycoXul> i'd like to see a selection of differnt "paths" heh
06.37.57 #       <PsycoXul> and a color bit which switches between start full and start empty
06.38.26 #       <pimlottc> all things equal drawing with black dots makes more sense given it's a white screen
06.38.36 #       <PsycoXul> i dunno though, some people seem to be against runtime configurability...
06.39.29 #       <merwin> pimlottc: you'll see, when it's implemented :)
06.39.42 #       <pimlottc> just tell me :P
06.39.52 #       <merwin> you have to see it to understand it
06.40.18 #       <pimlottc> <shrug>
06.41.10 #       <PsycoXul> oh and how about optional path tracing
06.41.20 #       <PsycoXul> or "trails" rather
06.41.47 #       <PsycoXul> so if you have it start-filled and trails off you just see 1 blank pixel at it's position
06.41.58 #       <PsycoXul> or trails on you see the whole path it's traveled so far blank
06.41.59 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.42.32 #       <pimlottc> you could always make it count in binary pixels
06.42.49 #       <PsycoXul> somebody should impliment a rockbox config file that can set everything anybody would ever want to configure [including all the stuff that doesn't belong in the menu's]
06.42.51 #       <pimlottc> then you'd have 2^35 positions
06.43.12 #       <PsycoXul> so then all the common options are in the menu's, but people who know how to rtfm can config to their hearts content with the file
06.43.16 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.44.20 #       <pimlottc> for the progress char you could have a file that's read at runtime with the sequence of character images to use
06.44.47 #       <PsycoXul> it seems like there should be a fairly way to tie all the stuff that can be configurable but currently isn't into a generic system with just a little code that handle's all of it, easily extensibly, with the file
06.45.25 #       <pimlottc> I'm sure we'll have modules before too long
06.45.30 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.45.55 #       <PsycoXul> last word from the main guys i heard about plugins was too much code for too little benifit
06.46.09 #       <PsycoXul> which i don't really think is true, but it's not my project
06.50.02 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.54.07 #       <PsycoXul> pimlottc: the whole sequence of 36 chars?
06.55.41 #       <PsycoXul> hmm
06.57.03 #       <merwin> let's see if this update works... with cvs update, is there a way to take the update message from a file?
06.57.35 #       <merwin> err, cvs commit
06.57.46 #       <merwin> nevermind, got it
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06.58.35 #       <PsycoXul> we could have a file for the whole sequence that uses 0x00 - 0x23 for the sequence to start filled and follow the numeric order in unfilling and 0x80 - 0xa3 to start blank and follow filling
06.58.39 #       <PsycoXul> or something like that
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06.58.42 #       <PsycoXul> heh
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06.59.00 #       <pimlottc> psyco - sure why not
06.59.11 #       <PsycoXul> then you can mix it up
06.59.15 #       <pimlottc> A whole 252 bytes
06.59.20 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: do an update :)
06.59.59 #       <PsycoXul> this one would only be 35 bytes for a whole sequence in a single file
07.00.20 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: if you want to see a quick example of my implementation, choose "1 Line ID3+" as the WPS setting
07.00.24 #       <pimlottc> the format for define is 7 bytes a char
07.01.17 #       * merwin is going to give in and have a couple veggie dogs before I pass out
07.01.29 #       <pimlottc> 7 * 36 = 252
07.01.47 #       <merwin> technically it's 288 (8 * 36)
07.01.52 #       <merwin> or nevermind
07.01.54 #       <merwin> i'm on crack
07.01.56 #       <merwin> brb
07.02.06 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.02.13 #       <pimlottc> technically, yes, you are on crack
07.02.16 #       <PsycoXul> i dunno
07.02.33 #       <PsycoXul> i think it'd be easier to define a pattern only having to make 1 35 byte file
07.02.54 #       <pimlottc> how do you figure
07.03.28 #       <PsycoXul> as opposed to defining 36 different chars?
07.03.53 #       <pimlottc> how are you storing a 36 character sequence in 35 bytes...
07.04.15 #       <PsycoXul> i said already
07.04.29 #       <pimlottc> I don't see it
07.06.08 #       <pimlottc> (heh chairman kaga rules)
07.08.32 #       <pimlottc> you need at least 5 bytes for each custom character
07.09.39 #       <PsycoXul> well say for example that 0x00-0x22 went in order from blank to full
07.10.00 #       <PsycoXul> 0x00,0x13,0x12,0x11,0x10
07.10.00 #       <PsycoXul> 0x01,0x14,0x15,0x16,0x0F
07.10.00 #       <PsycoXul> 0x02,0x19,0x18,0x17,0x0E
07.10.00 DBUG    Enqueued KICK PsycoXul
07.10.00 #       <PsycoXul> 0x03,0x1A,0x1B,0x1C,0x0D
07.10.00 #       <PsycoXul> 0x04,0x1F,0x1E,0x1D,0x0C
07.10.02 #       <PsycoXul> 0x05,0x22,0x21,0x20,0x0B
07.10.05 #       <PsycoXul> 0x06,0x07,0x08,0x09,0x0A
07.10.13 #       <PsycoXul> that would be the go around then zig-zag thing i was talking about earlier
07.10.45 #       <pimlottc> what do you mean, characters 0 through 34 in the sequence? in rom?
07.10.49 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: implement it :)
07.11.23 #       <merwin> ack, i broke the player sims
07.11.39 #       <PsycoXul> pimlottc: just follow the order of the numbers in the example
07.12.20 #       <PsycoXul> i messed it up though
07.12.23 #       <PsycoXul> oops :p
07.12.24 #       <pimlottc> you are talking about a trail
07.12.32 #       <pimlottc> I'm talking about being able to define any sequence
07.12.41 #       <pimlottc> you're talking about only defining trails
07.12.41 #       <merwin> that would be nice
07.13.00 #       <PsycoXul> uh
07.13.00 #       <merwin> you could have it checkerboard and then fill in :)
07.13.57 #       <PsycoXul> with this then a higher set of values represents starting filled and unfilling when it gets to it
07.14.40 #       <PsycoXul> i.e. using 70 of the 255 values availible instead of 35
07.15.10 #       <PsycoXul> and say 0xA0 is the first start-filled value
07.15.11 #       <PsycoXul> then
07.15.14 #       <pimlottc> it's still a trail
07.15.24 #       <pimlottc> it's still only 1 pixel changes each step
07.15.30 #       <PsycoXul> 0x00,0xA1,0x02,0xA3
07.15.40 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
07.15.59 #       <PsycoXul> well whether it leaves a trail or not could be set somewhere else
07.16.03 #       <PsycoXul> and beyond that i dunno what else you'd want to do
07.16.34 #       <pimlottc> you could make a clock like animation, or count in romen numericas, or count in binary
07.16.45 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.16.48 #       <merwin> ok, will sizeof, or strlen give you a bigger value for a string/
07.16.49 #       <merwin> ?
07.17.01 #       <pimlottc> there's plenty of stuff you might want to do beyond trails
07.17.15 #       <PsycoXul> yeah you're right
07.17.49 #       <PsycoXul> but those introduce other complications...
07.18.13 #       <pimlottc> like?
07.18.23 #       <PsycoXul> if you're displaying a sequence of different something's then there's nothing limiting you to 36 steps
07.18.31 #       <pimlottc> right
07.18.44 #       <pimlottc> just read the file and read in how ever many characters you have defined
07.18.54 #       <pimlottc> could be as many steps as you want
07.19.02 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
07.19.08 #       <PsycoXul> thats pretty good
07.21.31 #       <PsycoXul> ok
07.21.33 #       <PsycoXul> so lets do it your way
07.21.50 #       <PsycoXul> and i'll just make a converter from my way to yours to make it easy to define trails :p
07.23.46 #       <PsycoXul> so would it be like a bunch of .xbm's in an identifying directory within the rockbox config dir or what
07.23.49 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.24.04 #       <pimlottc> just a single fle
07.24.11 #       <pimlottc> multiple files would just be messy
07.24.18 #       <PsycoXul> ok
07.26.05 #       <PsycoXul> so just a single file of some number of bytes devisible by 7
07.26.06 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.26.09 #       <PsycoXul> ?
07.26.39 #       <pimlottc> nod
07.26.53 #       <PsycoXul> sounds good
07.29.36 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: you checked out my commit?
07.30.01 #       <merwin> pimlottc: you check it out too :)
07.30.01 #       <merwin> heh
07.30.09 #       <merwin> Choose 1 Line ID3+
07.30.30 #       <PsycoXul> wps-display.c: In function `draw_player_progress':
07.30.31 #       <PsycoXul> wps-display.c:565: `player_progressbar' undeclared (first use in this function)
07.31.05 #       <merwin> hmm
07.32.39 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: done
07.32.42 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: reupdate
07.33.10 #       <pimlottc> should prolly make sure it at least compiles before you commit...
07.33.22 #       <pimlottc> (let alone works)
07.33.31 #       <merwin> pimlottc: i did make sure it worked, i was fixing a sim problem, and accidently deleted a line :)
07.34.06 #       <pimlottc> works but not compiles eh
07.34.27 #       <merwin> well, the build for player/recorder worked, then the sim worked, now both work
07.34.28 #       <merwin> heh
07.37.04 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.37.39 #       <PsycoXul> i like how it goes with the ff/rw
07.37.54 #       <PsycoXul> that kinda makes it useful :p
07.38.07 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: yeah, that took a while to implement
07.38.58 #       <PsycoXul> so its kinda annoying that archos.mod copies over faster than wps.config
07.39.00 #       <PsycoXul> consistently
07.39.48 #       <merwin> my rockbox crashed by itself today
07.39.52 #       <merwin> non repeatable
07.40.13 #       <merwin> I fixed the in-wps volume changing also
07.40.34 #       <merwin> I've basically rewritten the entire wps :P
07.40.41 #       <merwin> along with zagor
07.40.41 #       <merwin> heh
07.41.05 #       <PsycoXul> hehe
07.41.33 #       <PsycoXul> but yeah i guess that 1 line id3+'s nifty and all
07.41.38 #       <PsycoXul> but i prefer
07.41.38 #       <PsycoXul> %s%?%it/%ia%:%fn%?
07.41.39 #       <PsycoXul> %pc%pb%pp/%pe
07.41.44 #       <merwin> haha
07.41.58 #       <merwin> I'm using ID3+
07.43.16 #       <PsycoXul> so what do you think of that custom WPS suggestion on the mailing list...
07.43.17 #       <PsycoXul> It would be more general if you could test
07.43.17 #       <PsycoXul> any expression. Wouldn't the c-construct x?y:z handle most cases just
07.43.17 #       <PsycoXul> as it does in the hardcoded wps views without adding to much
07.43.18 #       <PsycoXul> complexity?
07.43.21 #       <PsycoXul> that one
07.43.23 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.43.49 #       <merwin> i dunno :P
07.43.56 #       <merwin> if someone can write it, i'll accept it :)
07.44.19 #       <PsycoXul> make those nestable and add a few format char thing's for the Parse mode's info
07.44.21 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.45.16 #       <PsycoXul> and then i think maybe all the modes would be replaced by the custom one
07.45.17 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.45.55 #       <merwin> all of the modes ARE using the custom strings now
07.46.05 #       <PsycoXul> even the dir parse one?
07.46.27 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: well, all but that
07.46.29 #       <merwin> :)
07.46.29 #       <PsycoXul> hows that handled? i didn't see dir parse format chars in the doc
07.46.31 #       <PsycoXul> ah
07.46.33 #       <PsycoXul> well see :p
07.48.19 #       <merwin> what does dir parsing actually display on the screen when it's used?
07.48.46 #       <PsycoXul> i dunno i don't generaly use it since most of mine have id3 tags...
07.48.46 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.49.16 #       <merwin> i don't think dir parsing is very useful personally
07.49.20 #       <merwin> just use frickin' id3 tags :)
07.49.53 #       <PsycoXul> thats all fine and well but not always a good option for people
07.50.01 #       <merwin> there's gotta be software to add id3 tags based on dir parsing
07.51.41 #       <PsycoXul> but isn't this just so pretty?:
07.51.42 #       <PsycoXul> %s%it%?%it%:%dt%?%dt%:%fn%ta%?/%ta%:%da%?/%da%:
07.51.51 #       <merwin> hmmmm
07.52.07 #       <merwin> just don't go over the 64 char limit
07.52.15 #       <PsycoXul> %dt being directory-parsed title and %da being same for artist
07.52.15 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.52.27 #       <PsycoXul> thats only 48 chars
07.53.01 #       <PsycoXul> actualy 47
07.53.01 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.53.06 #       <PsycoXul> not counting the newline
07.53.19 #       <merwin> 49 if you're using windows
07.53.20 #       <merwin> ;)
07.53.25 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.54.03 #       <merwin> linux uses LF, mac uses CR, so microsoft just decided, "Hey, lets use both and create our own incompatable and annoying standard!"
07.54.44 #       <PsycoXul> but yeah so that would display id3 Title if available, falling back to directory parsed title if available, and falling back to filename if all else fails... and then /Artist from id3 or directory parsed if either available and no more if neither are are
07.55.02 #       <merwin> you want to write the code for that?
07.55.28 #       <PsycoXul> in which case say the id3 has title but not artist but the directory parse can figure out the Artist you still get Title/Artist with a combination of them :p heh
07.56.01 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: i fix things and do copy-paste coding mostly
07.56.02 #       <PsycoXul> heh
07.56.02 #       <merwin> I use a format of /Albums/[Nirvana] - Nevermind/[Nirvana] -01- My Song Name.mp3
07.56.13 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
07.56.27 #       <PsycoXul> and you also just make sure they're all tagged
07.56.27 #       <pimlottc> why put the name in brackets
07.56.34 #       <merwin> All 20 or so gigs are like that :)
07.56.36 #       <pimlottc> I don't understand why people do that
07.56.37 #       <PsycoXul> i use Artist/Album/#-Title.mp3
07.56.39 #       <pimlottc> or in parens
07.56.50 #       <merwin> I find it easier to differenciate between the artist and title
07.56.51 #       <pimlottc> then you can't hit the first character to jump to it in explorer
07.57.17 #       <merwin> I think I was the one who started [Artist] -Track- Title.mp3  long ago when napster came out *grin*
07.57.31 #       <PsycoXul> yeah but you can type \[N and hit tab in your *NIX shell and be fine.. heh
07.57.34 #       <pimlottc> psycho - so what about multiartist cds
07.57.46 #       <pimlottc> psycho - i'd rather just hit N and tab
07.57.56 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: "N <tab>
07.58.08 #       <PsycoXul> pimlhottc: me too
07.58.20 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: besides, i don't use *nix
07.58.49 #       <merwin> my fiance' has to play "the sims"
07.58.50 #       <merwin> :)
07.58.57 #       <PsycoXul> my miltiartist cd's are in Soundtracks/Movie/ and Various Artists/Album/
07.59.13 #       <pimlottc> and the filenames
07.59.21 #       <merwin> multiartist i name:  -track- [Artist] - Title
07.59.32 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: that runs in winex... in fact some company shipped a winex-setup version of it for linux... heh
07.59.42 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: but you have to pay for it
07.59.44 #       <pimlottc> merwin - then you ahve different formats
07.59.46 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: there's no free version
07.59.48 #       <PsycoXul> pimlottc: varies 
08.00.00 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: so just download winex cvs and use that with your copy of the sims
08.00.01 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.00.01 #       <pimlottc> see, why vary, just use a uniform method
08.00.17 #       <PsycoXul> because i don't always rename files i download or get sent various places
08.00.23 #       <pimlottc> I do Artist - Album/## - Artist - Title
08.00.33 #       <merwin> pimlottc: nah, the track is always enclosed in -'s, and the artist is always enclosed in []'s, the rest is the title
08.00.57 #       <PsycoXul> see personally i don't see the point of having the artist in the filename if its in a directory with the artists name in it
08.00.58 #       <pimlottc> but the ordering changes unnecessarily
08.01.06 #       <PsycoXul> its not only redundant but wastes screen space
08.01.09 #       <PsycoXul> imo
08.01.09 #       <PsycoXul> :p
08.01.39 #       <pimlottc> psycho - to be consistant.  you also have singles that don't have an album dir and tracks in compilations that don't have the artist name in the dir
08.02.02 #       <pimlottc> also I think that it is good to have the filename itself have a minimum of useful information regardless of its directory
08.02.16 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.02.18 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: what if you send it to someone? then they won't have the artist in the name
08.02.31 #       <pimlottc> nod
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08.02.38 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: they'll just have to look at the id3 :p
08.02.45 #       <pimlottc> for singles I omit track # but otherwise it's the same
08.02.51 #       <merwin> pimlottc: me 2
08.03.22 #       <pimlottc> and it looks nice w/o any silly () :P and easier to tab complete
08.03.31 #       <PsycoXul> actualy last time i tried the dir parse it worked great for the soundtrack's i've got that don't have id3...
08.04.12 #       <merwin> No matter what, dir parse will at least display the filename without the .mp3
08.04.31 #       <PsycoXul> that reminds me
08.04.37 #       <merwin> of a girl that i once knew?
08.04.52 #       <PsycoXul> the filename display mode was made to strip the .mp3 extention iirc
08.05.10 #       <PsycoXul> but not yours
08.05.11 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: i'd rather it didn't strip it
08.05.16 #       <PsycoXul> why not?
08.05.18 #       <pimlottc> anyhow Artist - Title is the way it's normally displayed in mp3 players using id3 tags and all so why not the same for my filenames
08.05.22 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: it's the filename :)
08.05.27 #       <PsycoXul> why the hell would you want to see .mp3 scrolling by in your while playing screen
08.05.30 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.05.51 #       <merwin> pimlottc: also, with my way, i can easily see which ones don't have id3 tags
08.06.02 #       <PsycoXul> merwin: so maybe you should add another format char then, cause it personally bugs me to waste scrolltime/screenspace with .mp3 in the while playing screen
08.06.03 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: why not? it's only 3 characters, and with the scroll speed you have...
08.06.11 #       <pimlottc> it doesn't give any useful infomration
08.06.12 #       <merwin> 4 chars
08.06.13 #       <merwin> sorry
08.06.19 #       <pimlottc> you might as well add the last modified date
08.06.32 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.06.33 #       <merwin> pimlottc: gives me useful info... like whether or not it's displaying id3 or filename for the conditional
08.06.51 #       <pimlottc> why should you care, you can't edit it on your jukebox
08.07.01 #       <merwin> pimlottc: mental notes
08.07.04 #       <pimlottc> people want it to look good not to remind them of stuff
08.07.16 #       <merwin> Personal preference
08.07.18 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.07.30 #       <pimlottc> then make a token for file extension
08.07.41 #       <PsycoXul> or hey
08.07.43 #       <PsycoXul> i've got an idea
08.07.51 #       <PsycoXul> just make the format char strip the extention
08.08.03 #       <PsycoXul> and use %fn.mp3 in your config if you want it :
08.08.05 #       <PsycoXul> :p
08.08.15 #       <MasteR> where am i supposed to save wps.config? i can't get it to work
08.08.24 #       <merwin> MasteR: on the root folder of your jukebox
08.08.28 #       <merwin> in all lowercase
08.08.36 #       <merwin> you also have to go into the settings/wps settings/custom wps
08.08.45 #       <MasteR> yeah did that
08.08.51 #       <PsycoXul> you know windows is funky and sometimes doesn't let you save it all lower case
08.09.00 #       <MasteR> it's all lower
08.09.07 #       <PsycoXul> it'll even sometimes show it to you like you did and then you look at it in linux and it's uppercase or mixed
08.09.21 #       <MasteR> i can try renaming it in cygwin
08.09.36 #       <merwin> MasteR: make sure you choose Custom WPS in the settings or it won't work
08.09.40 #       <merwin> in the General Settings
08.09.40 #       <PsycoXul> since fat32 isn't case sensitive
08.09.42 #       <MasteR> did
08.09.50 #       <PsycoXul> i would think that loading files from it shouldn't be either
08.10.07 #       <merwin> PsycoXul: we're not using fat32, we're using LFN to load files
08.10.20 #       <merwin> hence, being able to load custom.wps
08.10.24 #       <merwin> fat32 is 8.3 characters
08.10.28 #       <PsycoXul> well yeah
08.10.34 #       <PsycoXul> but its still case insesitive
08.10.40 #       <pimlottc> it's vfat
08.10.44 #       <PsycoXul> you can't have wps.config and Wps.config both on there can you?
08.10.48 #       <merwin> VFAT stores the case
08.10.51 #       <merwin> Windows won't let you save it
08.10.58 #       <pimlottc> yes windows will
08.11.12 #       <pimlottc> you store care you just don't care when you load it
08.11.19 #       <pimlottc> you store case that is
08.13.56 #       <MasteR> meh, still wont work
08.14.18 #       <MasteR> screw it, back to 1 id3+
08.14.31 #       <merwin> hehe
08.14.34 #       <merwin> MasteR: sorry :P
08.14.42 #       <PsycoXul> lets see your wps.config
08.14.50 #       <merwin> MasteR: yeah, cut and paste your wps
08.15.00 #       <MasteR> k, just a sec
08.15.32 #       <MasteR> hmm, that was wierd, wouldn't go into usb mode
08.15.48 #       <MasteR> %c - %b
08.15.56 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.15.59 #       <merwin> MasteR: that's your problem
08.16.03 #       <MasteR> ?
08.16.09 #       <merwin> MasteR: read the CUSTOM_WPS_FORMAT doc
08.16.14 #       <MasteR> thought i did
08.16.18 #       <MasteR> k
08.16.29 #       <merwin> MasteR: i've updated it since the first version (which is what you're refering to)
08.16.37 #       <merwin> it's now got %xx, not just %x
08.17.35 #       <MasteR> so it would be %cc - %bb?
08.17.43 #       <PsycoXul> no
08.17.45 #       <PsycoXul> read the doc
08.17.46 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.17.53 #       <PsycoXul> the current one
08.17.58 #       <MasteR> hmm
08.18.08 #       <PsycoXul> maybe some day it'll be %s%it%?%it%:%dt%?%dt%:%fn%ta%?/%ta%:%da%?/%da%:
08.18.27 #       <merwin> http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html
08.20.46 #       <MasteR> ah there it is
08.20.47 #       <MasteR> ty
08.20.57 #       <merwin> :)
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08.24.49 #       <MasteR> allright, got it working, thanks yall
08.29.26 #       <merwin> no prob bob
08.29.28 #       * merwin is back
08.31.24 #       <PsycoXul> geez
08.31.33 #       <PsycoXul> even my mom's mp3-cd player has a 2x16 screen :p
08.31.44 #       <PsycoXul> er 16x2 
08.31.45 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.32.33 #       <merwin> heh
08.32.58 #       <PsycoXul> thats just her portable one
08.33.02 #       <PsycoXul> i think the one in her car has more :p
08.34.17 #       * merwin needs to take off :)
08.34.27 #       <merwin> gotta get up early to put zoom zoom exhaust on my car
08.35.02 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.35.09 #       <merwin> '99 eclipse
08.35.11 #       <merwin> :)
08.35.23 #       <merwin> going up to canada to do it (much cheaper)
08.35.27 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.35.35 #       <merwin> ttyl
08.35.40 #       <PsycoXul> night
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13.58.24 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: you here?
13.58.50 #       <Zagor> yup
13.59.35 #       <dwihno> Zagor: got time for some hw discussion?
13.59.42 #       <Zagor> sure
14.00.20 #       <dwihno> Since I got a laptop, I would really like to get some kind of external storage thing for "long time storage" of data...
14.00.50 #       <dwihno> The solution I'm currently looking into is an USB2connect PCMCIA card from adaptec...
14.00.54 #       <dwihno> and some kind of storage box
14.01.06 #       <dwihno> Here's the tricky part
14.01.14 #       <Zagor> define "storage box"? harddisk or disk writer?
14.01.30 #       <dwihno> 3.5" external usb2 cabinette for regular hard disks
14.01.43 #       <Zagor> ok
14.02.10 #       <dwihno> I want the ATA-USB bridge to be mass storage compliant since I don't want to be a slave under some extra drivers
14.02.27 #       <Zagor> right
14.02.48 #       <dwihno> The only chip I know of is the ISD-300
14.02.49 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: there is a problem with loadable fonts
14.03.04 #       <Zagor> elinenbe: plenty :-)
14.03.41 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: well, there is a big one that says, no font found or something like that.
14.03.51 #       <elinenbe> It is new in the past few days
14.04.01 #       <Zagor> again?
14.04.08 #       <Zagor> ok
14.04.14 #       <elinenbe> yeah
14.04.18 #       <Zagor> dwihno: and you can't find such a cabinet?
14.04.24 #       <elinenbe> I will build the latest CVS and tell me what is up.
14.04.32 #       <elinenbe> s/me/you
14.04.43 #       <Zagor> good
14.04.57 #       <dwihno> Zagor: Well, I'm not sure since I found a store near odenplan (data-enter or something like that) carrying some USB2 cabinettes, but there was no way telling the bridge hardware...
14.05.29 #       <Zagor> and they wouldn't open one and look?
14.05.56 #       <dwihno> nope
14.06.15 #       <Zagor> then check them on the never-buy-here list
14.06.48 #       <dwihno> I know that dustin carries some USB2-cabinettes as well, maybe I can mail them and ask?
14.07.00 #       <Zagor> you can try
14.07.57 #       <dwihno> Aren't there some kind of software to detect the bridge hardware?
14.08.01 #       <dwihno> or some special trick?
14.08.14 #       <Zagor> as i said, plug it into a linux box and it will tell you
14.08.17 #       <elinenbe> by a USB2 cabinet what exactly do you mean?
14.08.22 #       <Zagor> windows never tells anyone anything
14.08.36 #       <Zagor> elinenbe: an external harddisk box with a USB/ATA bridge
14.09.01 #       <elinenbe> oh... I habve 3 firewire ones for stuff on my laptop
14.09.01 #       <Zagor> sort of like the archos, but for 3.5" disks and no batteries
14.09.38 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: I get "no font loaded" ... did not get it two days ago
14.09.57 #       <Zagor> elinenbe: ok, i'll try it
14.12.32 #       <dwihno> Zagor: http://www.skymaster.com.tw/products/book/dem-0818.htm <-- that's what I want (I _THINK_ it has the ISD-300 since the previous model uses ISD-200)
14.18.20 #       <elinenbe> bug: in WPS screen in the ID3 mode when you turn the statusbar on or off, it gives different screens
14.18.45 #       <elinenbe> bug: in WPS screen in the ID3 mode top line does not show up.
14.21.02 #       <Zagor> dwihno: that's no guarantee. call and ask. demand straight answers, and return it if it's not correct
14.22.12 #       <dwihno> Zagor: I'm considering to buy the hardware from the store (if I get a refund-if-not-satisfied guarantee) and check it out... That is probably the easiest way
14.22.32 #       <Zagor> yes
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14.23.59 #       <elinenbe> bug: in WPS screen -- when you fast forward or rewind, the status bar does not update properly.
14.24.42 #       <Zagor> there are lots of wps bugs with both the rewrite and custom-wps
14.26.40 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: just letting you know :-)
14.27.19 #       <TotMacher> why skips rockbox so often ?
14.27.23 #       <TotMacher> that really sucks
14.27.31 #       <TotMacher> every second mp3
14.27.49 #       <Zagor> TotMacher: did it always do that for you, or just lately?
14.28.06 #       <TotMacher> the last 4-5 days
14.28.11 #       <TotMacher> i update daily :)
14.28.16 #       <Zagor> so 1.2 doesn't?
14.28.24 #       <TotMacher> i dont thinkl so
14.28.28 #       <Zagor> try it
14.28.37 #       <Zagor> it's important that we know
14.28.42 #       <TotMacher> ok
14.28.45 #       <TotMacher> i will test it
14.29.12 #       <dwihno> ffw-ing sometimes causes skips too
14.29.30 #       <dwihno> I'll test the latest CVS soon
14.29.51 #       <TotMacher> örgs
14.29.55 #       <TotMacher> where do i get 1.2 ?
14.30.14 #       <Zagor> http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-1.2-recorder.ajz
14.30.32 #       <TotMacher> thnks
14.31.46 #       <elinenbe> bug: in WPS screen -- in Custom WPS   %pp : Playlist Position under shuffle gives position of playing song in the playlist -- not the position of the song in the playlies
14.32.32 #       <dwihno> No custom WPS for recorder yet, I presume?
14.33.01 #       <TotMacher> and please, display the filename, if no id3 tag is found
14.33.14 #       <Zagor> dwihno: yes, but it doesn't work right
14.33.17 #       <TotMacher> its horribile with <no artist> <no title>
14.33.29 #       <TotMacher> maybe you could parse the filename
14.33.46 #       <PsycoXul> i use
14.33.46 #       <PsycoXul> %s%?%it/%ia%:%fn%?
14.33.47 #       <PsycoXul> %pc%pb%pp/%pe
14.33.49 #       <TotMacher> mostly the files are named after this pattern : artist - name
14.33.51 #       <PsycoXul> on my player for custom WPS
14.34.06 #       <dwihno> Zagor: Hmm, doesn't work right? Bugs or such?
14.34.10 #       <PsycoXul> which gives me Title/Artist on the first line if the id3's there or the filename if it's not
14.34.12 #       <Zagor> bugs, yes
14.34.57 #       <TotMacher> why are there no games on player ?
14.35.13 #       <PsycoXul> i'm hoping one day my first line will be replaced with
14.35.14 #       <PsycoXul> %s%it%?%it%:%dt%?%dt%:%fn%ta%?/%ta%:%da%?/%da%:
14.35.20 #       <PsycoXul> or something along those lines
14.35.29 #       <dwihno> Zagor: tell me and I'll fix! I'd love to have custom WPS :)
14.35.54 #       <Zagor> dwihno: it's already activated. fix the bugs you find.
14.36.07 #       <PsycoXul> TotMacher: cause i haven't bothered to start my angband clone for it yet :p
14.36.09 #       <Zagor> i'm only in reading the mail, no time to work today
14.36.23 #       <TotMacher> :) 
14.36.49 #       <dwihno> An idea btw... Instead of having the entire path as a % thingy, it would be neat to have 3-4 tags containing the dirs, thus enabling some kind of "archos" display of the files...
14.36.52 #       <dwihno> Like:
14.37.03 #       <dwihno> "Dance, techno"
14.37.07 #       <dwihno> "Artist"
14.37.11 #       <dwihno> "Filename"
14.37.26 #       <dwihno> if the path is "dance, techno\artist\filename.mp3"
14.38.01 #       <PsycoXul> dwihno: yeah i want directory parse support for the custom WPS.. i told merwin that last night heh
14.38.19 #       <TotMacher> seems that 1.2 does not SKIP
14.38.21 #       <TotMacher> !
14.38.55 #       <dwihno> PsycoXul: feels good not to be the only one wanting this
14.39.15 #       <PsycoXul> dwihno: doing like you said with just anonymous path components like you just said would be better than what i was thinking though
14.39.42 #       <PsycoXul> dwihno: because that would allow people to configure how their dirs are parsed right along with how its displayed on the wps
14.39.56 #       <TotMacher> sometimes a song skips, sometimes it does not ! so there is no rule
14.40.20 #       <PsycoXul> dwihno: though i dunno about the info from the filename...
14.40.28 #       <TotMacher> until you fix the skipping, the newest firmware is useless !
14.40.44 #       <TotMacher> so, start programming :)
14.41.08 #       <dwihno> PsycoXul: everybody has their way of keeping structures, with makes parsing a helluva job... keeping some kind of path structure is ten times easier..
14.41.19 #       <dwihno> And ppl could configure just about everything :)
14.41.29 #       <dwihno> What a perfect world it would be :)
14.43.13 #       * dwihno senses the urge to add functionality
14.43.39 #       <PsycoXul> heh
14.43.51 #       <PsycoXul> the player's suddenly getting like a whole slew of killer features :p
14.44.12 #       <dwihno> You got a recorder ?
14.44.27 #       <PsycoXul> no
14.44.43 #       <PsycoXul> i guess whatever custom wps stuff you do'll be for both eh?
14.44.44 #       <PsycoXul> heh
14.45.08 #       <dwihno> yaman :)
14.45.20 #       <dwihno> Just gotta finish my mail then I'll dig into it
14.45.22 #       <PsycoXul> but i mean first the custom wps
14.45.27 #       <PsycoXul> then the progress bar
14.45.44 #       <PsycoXul> and now both are gonna be getting extended for even more configurability and capabilities
14.46.51 #       <dwihno> Yeah... 
14.47.03 #       <dwihno> Superceding the archos' firmware by warpspeed! :)
14.47.09 #       <dwihno> Full speed ahead, mr. Zulu!
14.47.09 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
14.47.44 #       <dwihno> Do you think the archos ppl know about rockbox?
14.47.50 #       <Zagor> yes
14.48.11 #       <PsycoXul> you know i suspect archos' firmware for the player is probably like a hacked up collection of reference source from the various companies that made the hardware components :p
14.48.54 #       <dwihno> when recording support goes in along with disk writing, rockbox will rock their world :)
14.49.17 #       <Zagor> well, i'm off again. see you tomorrow.
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14.49.24 #       <PsycoXul> its probably a complete mess and virtualy impossible to extend much beyond what it does already or locate bugs etc
14.49.27 #       <dwihno> yeah
14.49.27 #       <PsycoXul> heh
14.49.35 #       <dwihno> that's why they never release fixes nowadays
14.49.47 #       <PsycoXul> heh
14.49.52 #       <dwihno> Just think about the LCD cluttering
14.50.08 #       <dwihno> a simple thing to fix
14.50.14 #       <dwihno> but it has always been there
14.55.46 #       <dwihno> BTW! I (foolishly) got my display scratched some time ago... I bought some "displex" display polishing stuff on a win/lose basis... After testing the goo on my cellphone cover, I used it on the archos and the plastic got as good as new! YAY! :-)
14.56.42 #       <PsycoXul> heh
14.56.44 #       <PsycoXul> nice
14.56.53 #       <PsycoXul> try it on any scratched cd's? heh
14.57.56 #       <dwihno> heh
14.58.10 #       <dwihno> Doesn't sound that stupid :)
14.58.35 #       <dwihno> I can try that with my über-won't-work-blümchen CD
14.59.03 #       <dwihno> It won't work, I bet, but if you never try, you never find out! :)
15.03.35 #       <PsycoXul> just remember
15.03.44 #       <PsycoXul> always go in a straight line from the center to edge
15.05.30 #       <dwihno> ya
15.19.01 #       <dwihno> why, btw?
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15.19.48 #       <PsycoXul> cause scratches running in that direction are much easier to read past without skipping that scratches that run along with the data
15.20.05 #       <PsycoXul> s/that/than/
15.22.42 #       <dwihno> mkay
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18.20.24 #       <dwihno> YAY!
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19.37.41 #       <Dexter> héllo!
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20.20.20 #       <Dexter> hello!
20.20.41 #       <Dexter> who speak french ?
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20.48.05 #       <merwin> morning
20.48.10 #       <merwin> afternoon
20.48.12 #       <merwin> whatever :)
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20.55.38 #       <adi|dads> hey mer
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21.17.43 #       <MeRWiN-> hey adi
21.20.23 #       * MeRWiN- is going to get his asspipe enlarged
21.26.48 #       <adi|dads> lol why?
21.27.06 #       <adi|dads> mer.. you have a recorder?
21.28.46 #       <adi|dads> anyone have a recorder?
21.28.55 #       * adi|dads needs a guinea pig
21.28.57 #       <adi|dads> i mean.. volunteer
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21.32.31 #       <adi|dads> anyone?
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21.42.52 #       <adi|dads> damnit.. i need a volunteer here folks.. with a recorder
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21.43.58 #       * laotan waves
21.44.02 #       * adi|dads screams softly
21.44.07 #       <adi|dads> laotan do you have a recorder?
21.44.10 #       <adi|dads> and welcome btw :)
21.44.17 #       <laotan> am overjoyed to find rockbox :)  just bought an archos recorder this past week...
21.44.33 #       <adi|dads> sweet :)
21.44.38 #       <adi|dads> wanna test something for me?
21.44.50 #       <laotan> i would, but may not be able to just yet
21.44.56 #       <dwihno> adi: what do you need testeed?
21.45.15 #       <laotan> i just found rockbox moments ago, so i still need to read the docs before installing :)
21.45.26 #       <dwihno> laotan: rockbox rocks the box!
21.46.30 #       <adi|dads> heheh
21.46.35 #       <adi|dads> k...
21.46.38 #       <laotan> i'm also getting my first "HD registry error" error
21.46.48 #       <laotan> hence why i searched for alternatives :)
21.46.48 #       <adi|dads> your batteries are low
21.46.57 #       <adi|dads> dwihno you have a recorder?
21.47.02 #       <dwihno> adi: of course I do!
21.47.14 #       <adi|dads> wanna test something for me?
21.47.32 #       <adi|dads> http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/ajbrec.ajz
21.47.37 #       <adi|dads> load that for me..
21.47.47 #       <adi|dads> at my fathers.. can't test
21.47.59 #       <adi|dads> laotan welcome to your future :)
21.49.25 #       <laotan> :)
21.50.35 #       <dwihno> hmm
21.50.39 #       <dwihno> Can't do that
21.50.42 #       <dwihno> my recorder is busy
21.54.10 #       <adi|dads> what do you mean buys?
21.54.13 #       <adi|dads> busy
21.54.29 #       <adi|dads> ie: "im to lazy to help poor adi who can't work on his at his fathers?"
21.54.31 #       <adi|dads> or do you mean
21.54.43 #       <adi|dads> "fuck you adi you lazy bastard.. im not helping you1!!!"
21.54.45 #       * adi|dads grins
21.55.52 #       <laotan> i'd do it
21.56.07 #       <laotan> how long does it take for the batteries to charge enough that i don't get that error
21.57.06 #       <adi|dads> well.. id say a few hours
21.57.16 #       <adi|dads> but if you dont need it right away.. charge it over night
21.58.02 #       <laotan> it would be nice to use it to try rockbox though :)
21.58.54 #       <laotan> what's up with the batteries? is it possible to buy any generic NiMH?
22.00.00 #       <datazone-work> yep
22.00.35 #       <datazone-work> but dont get crap batteries
22.00.38 #       <datazone-work> you will regret it
22.00.44 #       * laotan nods
22.01.10 #       <datazone-work> get some 1.2V 1900MmAh
22.01.20 #       <datazone-work> ignore that first "M"
22.02.05 #       <datazone-work> and a good external 4 battery charger
22.02.49 #       <datazone-work> not the "accelerated" chargers.. i have heard those arnt that good in the long haul for your batteries
22.03.20 #       <adi|dads> datazone do you have a recorder or player?
22.03.24 #       <datazone-work> player
22.03.30 #       <adi|dads> damn you :)
22.03.39 #       <datazone-work> with 30GB of sweetness
22.03.52 #       <adi|dads> mmmm... 30 gigs of milky sweetness
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22.31.02 #       <Dexter> hello!
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22.37.21 #       <mecraw> adi|dads: do you still need a recorder guinea pig?
22.37.35 #       <Dexter> who speak french ??
22.37.46 #       <_seb_> a little
22.38.05 #       <mecraw> Dexter: not me
22.38.49 #       <_seb_> but i don't know much about rockbox
22.39.28 #       <_seb_> hey folks how does one compile the source with cygwin
22.39.56 #       <mecraw> _seb_: i just followed the directions on the site
22.40.18 #       <mecraw> did you set up the cross-compiler?
22.40.31 #       <_seb_> no, i'm trying to explain it to the french guy but i've never done it myself :/
22.41.04 #       <mecraw> sounds tough, good luck :)
22.41.55 #       <Dexter> ok thanks!
22.44.09 #       <adi|dads> mecraw yeah i do..
22.44.10 #       <adi|dads> can you ?
22.44.16 #       <adi|dads> http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/ajbrec.ajz
22.44.28 #       <mecraw> sure
22.45.05 #       <mecraw> what am i testing?
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22.46.51 #       <adi|dads> basically
22.46.52 #       <adi|dads> see if Screensavers
22.46.52 #       <adi|dads> are still listed as a menu option
22.47.41 #       <mecraw> nope
22.47.59 #       <adi|dads> sweet
22.48.00 #       <adi|dads> ty
22.48.19 #       <mecraw> np
22.50.31 #       <adi|dads> brb
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22.59.30 #       <adi|dads> i wish zagor or linus was around
23.17.33 #       <adi|dads> http://www.devdepot.com/description.html?pcode=AWFS
23.17.34 #       <adi|dads> hehe
23.18.19 #       <pimlottc> bs
23.18.23 #       <pimlottc> pysol rules
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23.31.01 #       <hardeep> hi all
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23.50.05 #       <laotan> hmmm. the batteries are fully charged, but i still get the hd registry error
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