--- Log for 09.09.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 9 days and 14 hours ago 00.28.06 Join EnnaN [0] (bla@cc53164-b.groni1.gr.nl.home.com) 00.28.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.32.52 Join AaronD [0] (~Yepyep@66.81.88.2) 00.34.44 # I found the solution to my corupted file problem woohoo, might actually get to use my player now 00.37.05 # congrats :) 00.38.49 # you a rb hero? just installed rb on my 1 day old ajs .. 00.45.31 Quit AaronD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.05.23 Quit TotMacher () 01.09.39 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bdacd.pppool.de) 01.10.54 # hi 01.12.32 # hugh 01.17.55 Quit EnnaN ("Leaving") 01.18.23 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.28.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.42.06 Join lohap [0] (lohap@213-48-172-137.bra.cvx.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.44.26 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 02.45.01 Quit lohap (Client Quit) 03.36.50 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 03.36.50 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.56.36 Join pist [0] (ident@130.philadelphia-21-22rs.pa.dial-access.att.net) 03.56.52 Part pist 04.05.44 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 04.23.27 Part rwood 04.28.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.37.10 Quit elinenbe_ () 05.04.57 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 05.48.50 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 05.48.50 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 05.49.44 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 05.49.44 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 06.22.45 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.24.49 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.24.53 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.28.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.46.50 Nick edx is now known as edx|school (~edx@pD9EAB2DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.55.15 Join datazone [0] ([NyzPmBte4@207.136.36.203) 07.21.49 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 07.43.26 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.43.26 Quit fraggle (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit datazone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit elinenbe (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit adi|home (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit sylvr (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit dwihno|gone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit laotan (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit rwood (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit seb-sleep (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit edx|school (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.43.26 Quit Synthe (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07.44.15 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 07.44.15 NJoin rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 07.44.15 NJoin datazone [0] ([NyzPmBte4@207.136.36.203) 07.44.15 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 07.44.15 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 07.44.15 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-199.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.44.15 NJoin seb-sleep [0] (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 07.44.15 NJoin edx|school [0] (~edx@pD9EAB2DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.44.15 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 07.44.15 NJoin Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 07.44.15 NJoin sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) 07.44.15 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 07.44.15 NJoin laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 07.46.31 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.47.31 # morning 07.47.45 # morning 07.48.31 # for what it's worth, I just posted RoLo with a faster descramble routine - the multiply and divides were taking all time time 07.48.49 # neato 07.55.22 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 07.57.26 # so how about a new WPS menu that just gives /.rockbox/*.wps for options... could do the same for *.eq too 07.58.20 # sounds like a nice thing, yes 08.01.52 # Bagder ive got a nice little keyboard going :) 08.02.16 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/kb.png 08.02.21 # that was yesterdays version 08.02.25 # ive come a bit farther... 08.02.36 # got a 256 char buff for the keyboard.. 08.02.44 # scrolls nicely on one line of the screen 08.11.27 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 08.12.39 # adi|home: nice 08.12.51 # got a better screen shot in a min 08.25.57 Quit rwood () 08.28.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.41.17 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 08.58.36 Quit pimlottc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.06.00 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 09.10.56 # Good morning 09.13.57 # hey hes 09.18.21 # Ah, new battery specialist in sight, good 09.20.46 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/kb.png 09.20.50 # there ya go bagder 09.20.54 # version .85 09.20.54 # :) 09.21.12 # hehe 09.21.25 # mind you the del, shift and save don't work yet 09.21.34 # im going to position them on the function buttons 09.21.36 # are those f-keys? 09.21.38 # off to exit 09.21.39 # nods 09.21.46 # i couldn't think of an easier way to do it 09.21.54 # seems cool 09.21.56 # cursor position on the screen is just dirty code wise. 09.22.11 # any other chars that seem nec off hand? 09.22.23 # i can fit 14 more easily :) 09.23.06 # comma and colon I guess 09.23.26 # ,: 09.23.40 # it might depend on what the input is fore 09.23.43 # for 09.25.51 # % and | so people can edit their WPS configs 09.26.09 # ah right 09.26.30 # maybe newline too in that case heh 09.26.54 # or something 09.39.31 # okay.... 09.39.33 # ,: 09.39.35 # are in.. 09.39.40 # %| we can wait on ;) 09.48.02 Join RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 09.58.33 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 09.59.00 # hola 09.59.09 # hey zagor 09.59.16 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/kb.png 09.59.18 # :) 09.59.38 # morning zaggie 09.59.48 # adi|home: ooh, looking good! 09.59.48 # i've been getting an odd bug lately 10.00.13 # where playback will stop for no apparent reason, the WPS goes blank, and it sits there reading the HD and then spinning down over and over a few times 10.00.41 # if i press on it goes to the browser and then pressing on again does nothing 10.00.46 # but then i can browse around and play another song just fine 10.01.13 # sleeping late is nice... 10.01.19 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 5 hours and 55 minutes at the last flood 10.01.19 # * Zagor goes to make breakfast 10.03.58 # okay.. enough keyboard for now.. 10.04.09 # Zagor we are going to have to discuss what happens when you go into the keyboard 10.04.18 # as far as what to do with the data that is 'typed' 10.04.30 # right now its all on one line that scrolls the screen as needed. 10.04.41 # with no way to look back at what you typed. 10.04.58 # but i figure we can scroll 'typed data' once you pause for a given time 10.05.29 # PsycoXul: no need for a CR, each line added to WPS can be done by entering into the keyboard again. 10.05.33 # we could have an edit menu 10.05.38 # 'new line' would be an option 10.05.55 # ok 10.06.10 # oh and # for custom EQ files too btw 10.07.22 # or those might better be made by setting it and then saving the settings 10.07.43 # so nm heh 10.08.50 # nods 10.09.04 # i figure keyboard will just be called by what ever needs it 10.09.14 # and the 'data' gets returned in a global buffer 10.09.18 # right now its 256 big 10.09.25 # which should be more then enough for nearly anything 10.09.55 # isn't there a quick way to go from lower case to upper case? 10.10.02 # by adding or sub some value? 10.10.26 # yes it is 10.10.29 # 0x20 10.10.42 # adding that does lower to upper yes? 10.10.44 # 0x61 lower case 10.10.49 # 0x41 upper case A 10.10.53 # okay.. 10.10.58 # subtract that.. got ya.. 10.10.58 # iirc 10.20.20 # do we have an ischar function? 10.20.27 # nm 10.22.11 # heheh shift works now :) 10.22.13 # that was nice and easy 10.22.47 # cool, does all the letters change on screen when you press shift? 10.23.38 # all the a-z 10.23.45 # # and punc don't ;) 10.28.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.36.29 # heheh that was a fun bug to fix 10.36.40 # okay.. so now i can shift case w/o losing cursor position 10.36.48 # man... ppl aren't going to like this code.. 10.36.54 # code police are going to want to play :) 10.37.18 # okay.. i DEL going tomorrow.. 10.37.22 # and its as good as ready 10.37.31 # until we decide what SAVE is going to do.. 10.37.39 # give that some thought folks.. im off to sleep 10.38.02 # save should just return the string from keyboard(); 10.40.58 # right, but we if aren't using malloc'd memory.. 10.41.04 # how does that string not get lost? 10.41.20 # or should keyboard() recieve a buffer and buffer size to store to? 10.45.27 # yes 10.46.35 # k 10.46.46 # beta for testing will be ready tomorrow sometime 10.46.49 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.46.58 # Hello! 10.46.59 # hey ho linus 10.47.41 # I ran a very interesting test this weekend 10.54.19 # LinusN: tell us 10.59.35 # I compiled two versions of the Recorder rockbox 10.59.48 # one with ATA_STANDBY, and one with ATA:SLEEP 10.59.56 # ah 11.00.08 # Batterytime: 11.00.26 # ATA_STANDBY: 10.5 hours 11.00.32 # ATA_SLEEP: 6.5 hours 11.00.44 # you have a seriously wacky unit... 11.00.52 # are you sure, Zagor 11.01.02 # yes. since i've tested mine. 11.01.11 # do you think my unit is the only "wacky" one? 11.01.12 # but if you have it, others probably have it too 11.01.41 # so how the heck can we ever detect which sleep to use? 11.01.53 # don't know..... 11.02.15 # i guess we have to read the ROM version number 11.02.33 # ?? we have the same version, don't we? 11.02.42 # i have 1.24 11.03.08 # 1.25 11.03.20 # Bagder, what's your rom version? 11.03.33 # we need more measurements 11.04.07 # 36-24-32 11.04.10 # hows that? 11.04.10 # it's really weird how many hardware bugs there is in these things... 11.04.22 # adi|home: huh? you gf? ;) 11.04.47 # heheh i wish 11.04.54 # my ex was like that at one point 11.05.12 # but more like 36-20-30 11.05.14 # shrugs 11.05.20 # heads off to bed for real 11.08.25 # I noticed that the scroll thread sometimes outputs too short lines when using proportional fonts 11.08.41 # yes 11.08.58 # and that the cursor highlight in time/date is totally screwed 11.09.02 # I have the same Linus has 11.09.12 # all font bugs await loadable-fonts before fixing 11.09.15 # I gotta go, see ya later 11.09.18 Part Bagder 11.12.13 # i compiled a cgg-3.2 with binutils-2.13 this weekend, and fixed the linker script 11.12.17 # gcc-3.2 11.12.44 # so now we can use the latest gcc if we want 11.12.55 # but i'm not sure it will work all that well 11.13.17 # hmm 11.13.20 # got a lot of warnings when compiling the Rtx code 11.13.29 # so no more illegal instructions from gcc? 11.14.04 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508D9BB7.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.14.10 # gcc-3.0 had broken size optimizations btw, dunno how it works for sh1 but gcc-3.2 should be able to produce smaller code if wanted 11.14.46 # but good to know - so now I can upgrade my toolchain-src 11.15.25 # 3.2 produces a smaller mod file by default 11.15.31 # about 1k smaller 11.15.49 # ah 11.16.04 # but i haven't had any problems with 3.0.4 11.16.37 # but i haven't optimized for size 11.17.39 # oh I mean broken as in not optimizing - not broken as in producing broken code 11.18.16 # you talked about illegal instructions 11.18.41 # oh that was just a reference to gcc-3.1 - producing sh4 instructions on sh1 11.20.11 # aha 11.30.43 # Zagor: do you know what that guy is talking about in feature request #605773? 11.31.14 # looking... 11.32.01 # i find it silly, masking a potential bug report in a feature request 11.32.19 # ah, yes. he wants to be able to resume if he accidentally presses STOP in a playlist 11.32.33 # funny, mostly it is the other way around, filing feature requests i bug reports 11.32.53 # Zagor: no, his box is crashing 11.33.00 # ah, read too fast :-) 11.33.29 # the last paragraph is so confusing... 11.34.17 # as far as i can see, his problem is a crashng rockbox on a specific file, not the resume feature itself 11.34.36 # we can't do more that ask if you want to resume 11.37.41 # and why didn't he file a bug report "crashing when playing a file"? 11.38.01 # people are strange.. 11.39.05 # i wish we could add a column on the front page that sais "fixed" on the fixed bug reports 11.39.34 # yeah. i just don't know how to extract that info. 11.39.55 # me neither, hence "wish" :-) 11.40.00 # :) 11.41.32 # hey 11.41.41 # where is the recent cvs activity gone ? 11.42.14 # is it gone? 11.42.23 # whoops 11.42.24 # no 11.42.26 # it is sometimes missing for a few minutes. it's a glitch. 11.42.27 # after reload 11.42.33 # its there 11.42.40 # ahh 11.42.41 # ok 11.46.40 # Zagor: are you working on the FAT, or did you just say so? :-) 11.46.45 # i am 11.47.15 # wow 11.51.40 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.51.40 Quit fraggle (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit dwihno|gone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit sylvr (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit elinenbe (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit datazone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit laotan (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit adi|home (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit rwood (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit Synthe (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit seb-sleep (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.51.40 Quit edx|school (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.57.46 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.57.46 NJoin rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 11.57.46 NJoin datazone [0] ([NyzPmBte4@207.136.36.203) 11.57.46 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 11.57.46 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 11.57.46 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-199.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 11.57.46 NJoin seb-sleep [0] (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 11.57.46 NJoin edx|school [0] (~edx@pD9EAB2DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.57.46 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 11.57.46 NJoin Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 11.57.46 NJoin sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) 11.57.46 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 11.57.46 NJoin laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 12.10.29 # hehe, now we have a 400-file limit discussion on Yahoo as well :-) 12.10.49 # and Bj�rn is getting all the credit for Rockbox :-) 12.10.57 # yeah. but it's not as obnoxious as the one on our mailing list 12.11.08 # i am? 12.11.35 # "Bj�rn, your firmware is excellent!! Thanks for a very good job. If you have a 12.11.36 # favorite charity, let 12.11.36 # me know and I will make a donation to them in your name." 12.11.53 # :-) 12.11.54 # i have 500 albums on one directory ! 12.12.00 # so i cannot read it 12.12.06 # ah, right. although "your" doesn't necessarily mean mine. it can mean "ours" too. 12.12.29 # he's just speaking to me 12.13.01 # i'm always careful talking about "we have decided" and "we did" or "we feel" so people should not get the feeling it's a one-man project 12.13.27 # Zagor: i'm not blaming you, i just though it was funny 12.14.08 # hehe, i often find myself talking about "the Rockbox" instead of just "Rockbox" :-) 12.14.40 # TotMacher: is this a problem for you? 12.15.01 # yes i have personal complexes because of this 12.15.06 # hehe 12.15.12 # TotMacher: how long are the dir names? 12.15.13 # hehe 12.15.22 # i always have long things :) 12.15.23 # so 12.15.27 # on average 12.15.34 # just kidding 12.15.39 # i dont have so much subdirs 12.15.44 # :-) 12.15.49 # but i have more that 400 files in one :) 12.15.51 # :( 12.16.37 # it is my "too much heard" directory 12.16.46 # but i want to conserve those mp3 12.16.47 # s 12.18.00 # just split it up and make a playlist 12.18.23 # but then i cannot directly access those files 12.18.48 # and i am using 12.18.54 # jukebox synchronizer 12.19.04 # so my hdd and jukebox are alway synced 12.19.16 # cannot access? 12.19.27 # yes 12.19.33 # i want to play just one file 12.21.00 # then do that. navigating through 400 files is much slower than going into one dir and then search among 100 12.21.28 # but 12.21.39 # if i have to search in 6 direactorys a 100 files 12.21.44 # it is very abusing 12.21.59 # so scrolling through 600 is *better* ??? 12.22.00 # then its better in one dir 12.22.06 # yes 12.22.08 # battery 12.22.19 # you have to read just one time the directory 12.22.21 # and 12.22.23 # go ind 12.22.25 # and go out 12.22.31 # suckts 12.22.34 # in avarage 12.22.37 # it is more search time 12.23.47 # reading a second dir takes, what, 200ms. then you have 1/6 the files to go through. i'm not buying you arguments. but i don't have to, you are free to change this in your own firmware. 12.24.59 # but 12.25.01 # Zagor: maybe tools/configure could do this? 12.25.05 # no ! 12.25.10 # i have to go one dir up 12.25.11 # LinusN: no 12.25.14 # takes user intervetion 12.25.26 # that bothers the user 12.25.40 # LinusN: the people with this problem don't compile their own firmware 12.25.58 # TotMacher: yeah, and searching 600 files takes no user intervention. right. 12.25.58 # Zagor: you just told Totmacher to do that 12.26.37 # how much more ram does one file take ? 12.26.59 # number of characters in the file name + 9 12.27.13 # no, 12.27.15 # number of characters in the file name + 7 12.27.15 # the point is, TotMacher, that no matter how large we set the limit people will still always complain 12.27.27 # 400 is more than 99% ever come close to. so that's what we have. 12.28.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.28.26 # those with extreme needs are free to customize their firmware to suit them 12.29.50 # i think a firmware which is used on a device which easily could contain more than >3000 files in a dir should support at least 1000 12.30.04 # no 12.30.22 # fat add dir support in 1983. you should try it. 12.30.26 # added 12.31.00 # but i dont have a criteria to sort my files in those directorys 12.31.10 # how do you find them, then? 12.33.53 # okok 12.34.04 # it is not rational to have more 12.34.09 # than 400 files in a directory 12.34.36 # the directory i use with those files, is just a garbage diretory for all mp3 i cannot longer hear 12.34.39 # but 12.34.47 # all the discussion about it 12.35.01 # is not good for the popularity 12.35.10 # TotMacher: i agree 12.35.15 # most of the things 12.35.19 # are not rational 12.35.34 # and people mostly 12.35.38 # act not rational 12.35.44 # you are wrong 12.35.46 # most people do 12.35.56 # most people are perfectly happy with this limit 12.35.58 # and if they hear about a limitation 12.36.01 # of the firmware 12.36.02 # most people didn't even know it's there 12.36.37 # "i was thinking about rockbox, but i read a lot about limits, so i didn't try it" 12.36.39 # they have a bad feeling about it 12.36.48 # and wont even try it out 12.38.30 # and i am concerned, that 99% not act rational :) 12.38.37 # most of the time 12.38.54 # ok 12.39.16 # not my problem anymore 12.39.21 # i will split up my directory 12.39.25 # with a bad feeling :) 12.40.47 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 12.40.47 Quit fraggle (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit dwihno|gone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit sylvr (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit elinenbe (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit datazone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit laotan (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit adi|home (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit Synthe (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit seb-sleep (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit rwood (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.40.47 Quit edx|school (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 12.41.32 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 12.41.32 NJoin rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 12.41.32 NJoin datazone [0] ([NyzPmBte4@207.136.36.203) 12.41.32 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 12.41.32 NJoin elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 12.41.32 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-199.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 12.41.32 NJoin seb-sleep [0] (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 12.41.32 NJoin edx|school [0] (~edx@pD9EAB2DE.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.41.32 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 12.41.32 NJoin Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 12.41.32 NJoin sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) 12.41.32 NJoin dwihno|gone [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 12.41.32 NJoin laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 12.46.20 # don't 12.46.20 # i'm running a software development project here, not a presidential election 12.46.21 # as the faq says, people used big dirs because playlists sucked. they don't suck any more, so people can stop using big dirs. 12.46.30 # it's very simple to change for those who want it different 12.46.32 # hehe 12.46.34 # the HUGE majority don't need it changed, and should not suffer for the demands of a tiny minority 12.46.48 # am I wrong? 12.46.58 # hat is DISCRIMINATION ! 12.47.02 # you nazi 12.47.06 # :)= 12.47.26 # yeah 12.47.28 # its ok 12.47.59 # the main question is "how much is enough" 12.48.08 # 1000 12.48.31 # ok, how many users do you thing have 1000 file/dirs? 12.48.36 # think 12.48.42 # 1 12.48.44 # me 12.48.50 # at least ! 12.49.00 # first, estimate how many people have tried rockbox so far. i'd say 300-500. 12.49.15 # only ? 12.49.16 # how many of those have complained about the dir limit? 3. 12.49.27 # hehe 12.49.33 # but they complain hard 12.49.33 # i'm being conservative. maybe it's several thousand who has tried it. 12.49.36 # Zagor: then maybe there are lots of people with 600-file dirs just waiting to try rockbox :-) 12.49.48 # YES ! 12.49.50 # :) 12.50.02 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 12.50.04 # ok 12.50.09 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|klausur (tot@p508D9BB7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.50.11 # can you see my point now? 12.50.20 # so, how may people will we shut up if we raise to 600 files? 12.50.26 Nick tot|klausur is now known as TotMacher (tot@p508D9BB7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.50.26 # 1, maybe 12.50.27 # 1 or 2 12.50.33 # i always saw your point 12.50.38 # but i have to go now 12.50.53 # you are too rational :) 12.51.03 # those people don't complain about the 400-file limit 12.51.16 # they complain about that there is a limit at all 12.51.23 # bad for the rockbox marketing 12.51.25 # this limit 12.51.34 # I disagree 12.51.38 # rockbox isn't marketing 12.51.41 # its good marketing 12.51.45 # it's software development 12.51.54 # we prefer big mp3 buffer 12.51.57 # that's goodness 12.52.28 # but if we had a dynamic handling somehow, we would have the cake and eat it 12.52.49 # yes 12.53.03 # let's do that in version 1.8 B-] 12.53.12 # i say let the one who complains write the code 12.53.19 # amen 12.53.27 # 1-2-3: 12.53.31 # SHOW ME THE CODE! 12.53.49 # :-) 12.54.23 # i wonder what happened to the dynamic memory discussion 12.54.28 # it just died 12.54.37 # I don't miss it 12.54.45 # i miss it 12.54.49 Join lohap [0] (lohap@213-48-76-207.bra.cvx.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.55.04 # i want to see how mr Wood will solve it 12.58.31 Quit lohap (Client Quit) 12.59.20 # by the way, i like this: 12.59.24 # text = (char*)realloc(text, strlen(text)+1); 12.59.31 # :-) 13.00.11 # hahaha 13.00.27 # efficient, dynamic memory usage 13.01.12 # well, most of the times the same pointer will be returned ;-) 13.07.31 # Bagder: if you feel like some extra web hacking, we can extract the whole SF tracker contents here: http://sourceforge.net/export/xml_export.php?group_id=44306 13.07.42 # would be good to mark bugs as "fixed" etc. 13.07.43 # I know 13.07.45 # ok 13.08.07 # I made an automatic script that can download it 13.08.15 # as you need to login as admin to do it 13.08.22 # rocking 13.08.34 # but I'm not quite sure what to do with it ;-) 13.09.14 # i'd like a "Resolution" row in the bug list, for starters 13.09.28 # heh 13.09.40 # me too 13.09.49 # and we could have a much better list of feature requests 13.09.59 # categorized 13.10.00 # true 13.10.15 # catgorized only if we introduce good categories 13.10.27 # but we'd need a hell of a xml parser 13.10.40 # just having all on one page would be an improvement 13.12.09 # Zagor: can you get the helvR08.bdf font showing? 13.12.16 # it occurred to me I never actually used that font 13.12.24 # can't remember. i'll try 13.12.26 # the makefile overrides it with that other one 13.12.45 # and when I carefully made sure I got the helv-one, it doesn't work 13.13.20 # Bagder: how far have you come with the font stuff? 13.13.26 # nowhere 13.13.31 # :-) 13.13.39 # I have no working prop font 13.13.57 # I wanted to get the ajf work first with prop 13.14.24 # as the .bdf parser will need some "fgets()" function or similar 13.14.56 # right 13.15.37 # I thought about doing a full fopen(), fgets(), fclose() layer 13.15.58 # but I'm not sure if anything else will need it 13.17.31 # text file handling usually gets a lot easier with an fgets(), so it might be a good idea. i'm not sure if we should make a full f* layer or simply a gets() though. 13.18.06 # well, fopen() and fclose() would make the fgets() nicer 13.18.17 # but those three would probably be enough 13.18.18 # yes 13.18.47 #