--- Log for 11.09.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 11 days and 13 hours ago 00.18.31 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 00.23.15 Quit merwin (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.00 # whats up lowfiler? 00.24.15 # huh ok u are there :) 00.24.23 # query 00.24.51 # what was it? 00.25.02 # i think the win32.mak file isnt up 2 date 00.25.10 # okay.. why/ 00.25.10 # while compiling, the following error appears: 00.25.11 # ? 00.25.31 # ./recorder/icons.o: In function `statusbar_icon_volume': 00.25.31 # ./recorder/icons.o(.text+0x1d0): undefined reference to `lcd_getstringsize' 00.25.31 # ./recorder/icons.o: In function `statusbar_time': 00.25.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK Lowfiler 00.25.31 # ./recorder/icons.o(.text+0x318): undefined reference to `lcd_getstringsize' 00.25.31 # make: *** [archos.elf] Error 1 00.25.40 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 00.25.48 # where is the win32.mak file located? 00.26.15 # apps 00.26.17 # nm 00.26.18 # looking 00.26.29 # k 00.26.54 # hmmm well.. 00.27.02 # it looks fine on the hourly builds 00.27.08 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml 00.27.08 Join PsycoXuul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-157.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 00.27.14 Quit PsycoXuul (Client Quit) 00.27.30 # try clearing out your build directory.. 00.27.31 # hmm i checked out the latest cvs files 00.27.38 # ok i do 00.27.40 # and delete .deps dir 00.27.51 # or whatever the dependancy dir in windows is 00.29.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.32.25 # ok works now! 00.32.25 # thx 00.33.55 # np :) 00.36.36 # how can i change the font? 00.37.09 # the original big font makes my eyes crying :) 00.38.42 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 00.48.08 Join lithermon [0] (~chatzilla@modem-535.ditto.dialup.pol.co.uk) 00.48.09 # off to my ambulance core.. see you later 00.48.16 # cu 00.48.59 Quit merwin (Remote closed the connection) 01.59.27 Part elinenbe|sleep 02.29.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.36.57 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 03.01.06 Quit lithermon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.16.52 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 03.16.52 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 03.16.52 Quit fraggle (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 03.17.54 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 03.18.55 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 03.18.55 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 03.18.55 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 03.22.58 # heya 03.56.18 Join elinenbe|sleep [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 04.26.50 Join lithermon [0] (~chatzilla@modem-182.dewgong.dialup.pol.co.uk) 04.29.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.32.56 Quit lithermon () 05.04.27 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 05.16.36 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.19.27 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.92) 05.26.28 Quit merwin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.41.26 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 05.44.47 Quit merwin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.45.30 Quit pimlottc ("sign reboot for usb") 06.07.45 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06.07.45 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 06.07.45 Quit fraggle (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06.08.10 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 06.08.10 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 06.08.10 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 06.19.28 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 06.21.36 Quit Hes (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06.21.36 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 06.21.36 Quit fraggle (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06.22.02 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 06.22.02 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 06.22.02 NJoin fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) 06.29.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.45.18 Join pimlottc [0] (~pimlottc@a1-1b012.neo.lrun.com) 07.03.23 Quit Lowfiler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.03.41 Join Lowfiler [0] (H@pD9E685E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.04.16 Quit merwin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.05.05 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAAB59.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.08.21 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 07.09.36 Nick edx is now known as edx|school (~edx@pD9EAAB59.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.12.24 Quit PsycoXul ("heh.") 07.13.45 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.14.10 # morning LinusN 07.16.06 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-45-38.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 07.17.12 # morning 07.19.51 # mecraw: you're working on repeat aren't you? 07.20.01 # 'cause the todo list hasn't been updated 07.20.17 # not really, i gave it a quick try, but wussed out 07.20.28 # heh 07.20.33 # i think quelsaruk is going to give it a shot 07.22.48 # LinusN: any progress on queueing? 07.23.43 Join gizz [0] (gizz@lyon-1-a7-62-147-16-66.dial.proxad.net) 07.24.02 # i have written most of the playlist stuff, but there are a few quirks to sort out 07.25.11 Quit gizz (Client Quit) 07.30.46 Join gizz [0] (gizz@lyon-1-a7-62-147-16-66.dial.proxad.net) 07.31.12 # hi all, are Psyco Dedman and/or Diddystar here ?? 07.31.23 # i am 07.32.17 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 07.32.17 # * LinusN senses a Gamebox discussion coming up 07.32.24 # why ?? 07.32.28 # :) 07.32.32 # indeed yes 07.32.41 # * PsycoXul runs away 07.32.46 # Linus did you receive my reply about it ? 07.32.53 # yup 07.32.57 # ok. 07.33.03 # and you Psyco ? 07.33.26 # lemme see 07.33.35 # * gizz presumes nobody wants to hear about Gamebox 07.34.35 # i have become addicted to sokoban... can't get enough of it 07.34.52 # i see 07.35.15 # gizz: the basic method i used for that particular piece of code was more demonstration-minded than anything 07.35.40 # I know that, I did too, by sending the result to Bjorn 07.35.57 # gizz: i would like to do more with the idea, but it'll be new code 07.36.05 # because many ppl didn't have the chance to see anything not boring on their box 07.37.33 # BTW, others : I ported the 'snow' demo on the player :) 07.37.52 # (boring : on the player, of course 8) 07.37.58 # heh 07.38.24 # Psyco : see what I mean ?? :) 07.38.54 # when i saw the snow demo for the recorder on the mailing list, i wondered if somebody'd port it to the player :p heh 07.39.05 # Psyco : it was more a proof of concept intended to bjorn, because he had even _forgot_ you submitted gamebox before, see ? 07.39.59 # gizz: yeah, none of the main rockbox people seemed to take much of an interest in that piece of code heh 07.40.11 # gizz: i'm not sure if any of them actualy tried the gamebox part 07.40.18 # i haven't 07.40.44 # the thing is that we are quite busy with a lot of other stuff 07.41.01 # and games tend to have low priority for us 07.41.08 # Linus : of course we can understand that :) 07.41.10 # of course 07.41.10 # heh 07.41.23 # that's why we prefer people like you guys to develop the games 07.41.24 # Linus : I presume Psyco talked about _others_ (like me :) 07.41.31 # right 07.42.04 # (and we prefer gurus like _you_ developping ata, usb and other complex ones ;-) 07.42.10 # :-) 07.42.25 # BTW, i wonder why elinenbe committed another snake game 07.42.40 # player version ? 07.42.58 # actually, that snake game was submitted to use before Wormlet, but wormlet is a lot better 07.42.59 # I'm sure it's possible, if nobody does, I'll test it 07.43.04 # no, recorder 07.43.11 # (on player :) 07.43.22 # i had been waiting for certain api's to come in and settle down in rockbox before i started it anew... i think they're all there now, but i've gotten my attention pulled to other projects for the moment... 07.43.39 # PsycoXul: tell us what you need 07.43.51 # and speaking of which, tonight i need to play with steel tubes, paper, tape, wax, plaster, and maybe even molten metal 07.44.50 # LinusN: i don't think there's anything i need that's not there now 07.44.53 # Psyco : did you _ever_ see my gamebox sources ?? (yours wrapped for rbx) 07.45.12 # gizz: i looked at what you sent to the mailing list.. the zip and diff's 07.45.21 # and the api ? 07.45.23 # gizz: but that was missing a lot 07.46.27 # well not a lot i guess, but a few things it needed to compile, which i could've thrown in pretty quickly... heh 07.47.01 # do you mean : missing player lcd_ funcs ? 07.47.12 # yeah i think so 07.47.26 # I sent patch to ML for it 07.48.03 # yeah that was after then 07.48.53 # problem is current lcd_api is not fitted to players, at least for your game, there's no func that output a byte to lcd, not only converted ASCII chars 07.49.39 # even better yet.. i want to know why elinenbe commited a _buggy_ snake game 07.50.08 # * mecraw12 hopes elinenbe|sleep doesn't wake up 07.50.44 # well the new one would use a mix of cgram and cgrom chars, and it'd use a different map format.. so whatever lcd api issues will be different ones heh 07.51.14 # bah.. he does.. ill bust him about it ;) 07.51.24 # LinusN: you had a chance to look at my keyboard code? 07.51.36 # hmm 07.51.42 # has playlist loading on rockbox gotten faster? 07.51.53 # on the recorder yeah. 07.52.00 # it just loaded my 2975 track list in like 1 second or less 07.52.21 # on my player 07.52.37 # i haven't used playlists for some time 07.52.42 # PsycoXul: Zagor decided to push the turbo button on the RAM 07.52.43 # PsycoXul: lcd_putc() is in lcd.c now, but it still does ASCII translation 07.53.08 # since i have no use for static ones in general, and my wholedisk one's been getting out of date.. i just updated it though heh 07.53.12 # mecraw12: dont give Zagor the credit for my work :-) 07.53.24 # * mecraw12 hides under the bed 07.54.11 # LinusN: it's hard to keep track of who does what when you're reading the irc logs at work without your boss seeing 07.54.21 # :-) 07.55.06 # gizz: why is lcd_gotoxy() needed? 07.55.20 # and lcd_putbyte()? 07.55.44 # well, it was a quick port of gamebox, and it needed it, 07.55.52 # PsycoXul: do you know? 07.56.01 # because there's a loop, 07.56.07 # the old gamebox only needed to avoid the ascii translation because of it's simplistic map format and "collision detection", which will be different in the new one... it'll probably make it easier to keep the game looking right on both old and new players by making use of the translation 07.56.16 # gotoxy'd at beginning, and putting raw bytes in it 07.57.03 # instead of moving the cursor for every character? 07.57.07 # if I understand well, Psyco works on a totally new version, and nobody wants any more nfo about current version. understood 07.57.11 # linus: yea 07.57.25 # ok, so an optimization really? 07.58.35 # ok so i'll be working on the new version in my head as i go about my other project, which i've been meaning to get to since december... 07.58.51 # [why do tomorrow what you can put off till today?] 07.59.06 # what do you Recorder guys think of the "F1 goes back all the way" suggestion on the mailing list? 07.59.07 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.59.10 # what do you Recorder guys think of the "F1 goes back all the way" suggestion on the mailing list? 07.59.21 # morning Bagder 07.59.23 # why do in 5 minutes what you can automate in 5 years? 07.59.31 # morning 07.59.40 # heya bagder 07.59.42 # LinusN: seems good to me 08.00.08 # i don't like the suggestion for the ON button, though 08.00.42 # does the ON button do anything in the menu right now? 08.01.03 # no 08.01.19 # poor button 08.01.29 # left out in the cold 08.03.12 # player users : anyone interested in a player lcd_ api for drawing pixels ? or nobody ? ( the snow port uses one ) 08.04.34 # gizz: how would it work? 08.04.51 # well, basically the same as in gamebox, 08.04.54 # a matrix of 4x2 chars? 08.05.34 # linus: matrix of 8*7 chars, 08.05.53 # linus: to hold cgram pixels (for 8 custom chars) 08.06.03 # the display has only 2 lines, how can you have 7 rows? 08.06.35 # linus: no, 08.06.37 # the old playes has only 4 user-definable chars, btw 08.06.54 # linus: I output 8 custom chars wherever on screen, then no one, 08.07.06 # linus: old : oops 08.07.29 # linus: then, I only change custom pixels not screen 08.07.32 # but we don't need to support the old players 08.07.39 # yes ? 08.07.48 # not if we can makke cool games on the newer ones 08.08.09 # we'll just have to skip, or reduce the games on the older models 08.08.47 # ok so you create a 40x7 pixel bitmap? 08.09.19 # well, (5 * 4) * (7 * 2) = 20 * 14 indeed ;) 08.09.41 # the problem is the gap between the rows 08.09.48 # yes 08.09.59 # but we can't avoid this, anyway, so.. 08.10.18 # if I had a recorder, but *sigh* 08.11.29 # so how about some sorta quiet mode that turns off all the messages that become unnecessary once you're familiar with rockbox, or something 08.11.41 # and what happened to wrapping of setting choices 08.13.08 # PsycoXul: what messages do you want to get rid of? 08.13.16 # PsycoXul: and what wrapping? 08.15.05 # like "Keylock {On,Off}" "ID3 Info Screen" and things of that nature if there's others heh 08.16.10 Quit Synthe ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 08.16.15 # LinusN: in the choices for a setting in the menu, for example turning something on/off.. pressing past the last choice going back to the first.. it used to do it, but it doesn't anymore 08.17.00 # Bagder.. how goes it? 08.17.15 # PsycoXul: ah, you mean the boolean values? 08.17.31 # how goes what? 08.17.35 # i don't know why that diesppeared 08.18.17 # something like that 08.18.23 # I was about to mail out my font patch, but now I think I'll need to check out Greg's stuff first 08.18.37 # i wish i knew how to consistently reproduce this stopping for no reason bug 08.18.42 # it's happened on my playlist on shuffle now too 08.18.43 # definitely 08.18.48 # bagder: any t-shirt poll result ? 08.18.51 # while i was in the menu 08.18.51 # heh 08.18.53 # PsycoXul: stopping? 08.19.21 # designs number 6, 24 and 23 are top-3 08.20.16 # LinusN: yes, stops for no reason, the WPS (just the text lines) goes blank, and it reads from the HD and spins it down over and over a few times, but does nothing else... if i go back to the browser it works normal, though if i press on again it stays in the browser, and i can play another song just fine and then it's all normal again 08.21.29 # bagder: sorry for 7 heh :) ; 23 visibly rocks !! 08.21.32 # LinusN: it's always seems to happen a few tracks into the dir/playlist, it's happened on dir play, in a shuffled playlist, without touching it, with the keylock on, and just now in the menu [it stopped, and i returned te the wps which promptly went blank and etc as described] 08.21.57 # gizz: yeps ;-) 08.23.18 # the reading/spinning down happens at least 3 times or untill i press the on button, the red light comes on while it's reading and then it spins down, going through each cycle fairly quickly like that like once a second or thereabouts 08.24.35 # PsycoXul: looks like a HD read error 08.24.45 # PsycoXul: is resume on? 08.25.09 Join merwin [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 08.25.18 # ok bye gentlemen ! (ever noticed there are only male ppl on the project ? :) 08.25.33 # how do you know? 08.25.33 # gizz: that's fairly usual I've noticed 08.26.14 # c u 08.26.18 Quit gizz () 08.26.34 # * merwin wants to do manual updating 08.26.35 # a mailing list for embedded systems programming is probably not the best place to meet women... :-) 08.27.05 # yes resume is on 08.27.08 # merwin: go go go ;-) 08.27.25 # PsycoXul: try to disable resume and see what happens 08.27.35 # Bagder: heh, only problem is screenshots... I can't do those, 'cuase the win32 sim for the player doesn't work right 08.27.45 # ouch 08.27.46 # ok 08.29.14 # * merwin is pigging out on imitation ritz crackers :-) 08.29.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.30.07 # stale imitation ritz crackers, even 08.37.43 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 08.39.40 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 08.40.44 # time for bed for me 08.40.45 # nite 08.40.51 Nick merwin is now known as merwin|zZzZz (~merwin@12.242.185.10) 08.46.43 # moin 08.48.36 # morning 09.08.16 # how about faster skip backward... just in case i hit the previous button :D 09.08.33 # wow.. anyone looked at yahoo today? 09.09.06 # hm now 09.09.26 # mecraw12: it is possible, but tricky 09.09.52 # adi|home: yes, what about it? 09.10.00 # grey/white 09.10.06 # mourning... for 9/11 09.10.28 # does 9/11 get much press in Sweden? 09.10.42 # yes 09.10.43 # mecraw12: yes 09.11.09 # the jukebox group is still yellow :-) 09.12.04 # personally, i don't like all those sites scoring cheap points by "mourning" the 9/11 victims 09.12.31 # what are they scoring? 09.15.30 # cheap publicity "we care so much"-points, but never mind, i don't live there, so i should probably shut up. this is not a political discussion channel 09.15.52 # true true 09.15.57 # time for bed 09.15.57 # night 09.16.10 # night 09.20.11 # nah.. LinusN you have a right to your opinions 09.20.12 # besides 09.20.16 # if we don't like it.. 09.20.22 # we'll just bomb you too 09.20.23 # :) 09.20.32 # * Bagder runs 09.20.33 # 1. afghanistan 09.20.35 # 2. irag 09.20.38 # iraq even 09.20.39 # hehe 09.20.47 # 3. france (i mean.. hey.. their french) 09.20.50 # 4. Sweden 09.21.24 # :-) 09.21.42 # first the frog eaters and then the meatball eaters 09.26.01 Quit merwin|zZzZz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.28.01 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@callisto.contactor.se) 09.28.12 # yo xagor 09.28.13 # morning Zagor 09.28.49 # hi 09.29.01 # i'm at work today, so i'll be away sporadically 10.15.07 # http://www.userfriendly.org/static/ 10.15.50 # * Bagder gets annoyed at doxygen 10.16.47 # ? 10.17.13 # I wanted to use it generate docs for rockbox 10.17.20 # but I can't make it do what I want 10.20.23 Join Schnueff_ [0] (~mah@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de) 10.21.09 Quit Schnueff ("client changed") 10.21.27 Nick Schnueff_ is now known as Schnueff (~mah@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de) 10.29.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.09.39 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.09.46 # hi 11.10.09 # hi 11.11.02 # the lcd code was opimized for oscillo function ? 11.11.20 # it used hardware scrolling 11.12.16 # oscillo function is now useable ? 11.12.28 # with good refresh rate 11.12.50 # it refreshes very fast 11.13.34 # it's good for games and graph... 11.14.26 # well, the oscillo function was optimized, not the lcd driver 11.15.14 # wooo, we need a side-scrolling shooter game 11.15.25 # ok it's a tweak only for oscillo but it's can be apply to all apps ... 11.15.51 # or it's better to remake the lcd driver directly? 11.15.59 # bobTHC: not really. it can only scroll the entire screen, which makes it not very useful for our normal things 11.16.12 # fun for demos and games, though 11.16.44 # yes yes shoot them up 11.17.21 # ;) 11.27.30 # Zagor: http://daniel.haxx.se/recentcvs/ 11.28.34 # Bagder: will you make the text file changelog script available too? 11.28.53 # ah, for the daily build you mean? 11.28.58 # yes 11.29.03 # ok 11.29.08 # goodie 11.29.24 # I'll put it on the same page 11.29.58 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (~bjst@callisto.contactor.se) 12.29.28 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 13.06.58 Join alkorr [0] (alkorr@ASte-Genev-Bois-110-1-2-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.40.21 Join datazone-work [0] (~datazone@chaos.iadfw.net) 13.41.07 Part alkorr 13.43.41 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.06.21 # is this a vfat feature: i do mkdir with an all uppercase dirname and get a lowercase result? 14.06.38 # from linux on an archos connected over usb 14.08.10 # where is the "lowercase result" ? 14.08.24 # w8 14.09.03 # hm browsing from the archos its uppercase as it should be, from linux though its lowercase 14.09.18 # rockbox shows the name unaltered 14.09.27 # linux might be "beautifying" it 14.09.35 # yeah that might be the problem 14.09.49 # maybe there a mount option 14.09.54 # there's 14.09.59 # possibly, yes 14.14.07 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.14.11 # hi 14.14.15 # hi!! 14.14.34 # Bagder: is there any news about .lang file format? 14.15.29 # me and Linus agree now 14.15.59 # and that's what's important! 14.16.01 # :-) 14.16.06 # hehe 14.16.14 # sorry? 14.16.30 # i just love this (from funmp3players.com): 14.16.35 # "I'm so sick of my archos with the disk error crap. So I switched the polarity. I let it sit for about 5 minutes and smelled the sweet smell of hot electronics, but nothing has changed. It still works, it still gives disk errors when not hooked up to the adapter (properly). Maybe a good electronic spanking is what it needed. " 14.17.01 Join czman [0] (~czman@adsl-173-48.barak.net.il) 14.17.29 Part czman 14.17.49 Join herenot [0] (~czman@adsl-173-48.barak.net.il) 14.18.20 # the option is shortname=mixed 14.18.40 # Schnueff: good to know 14.18.58 # it seems to apply to 8.3 names only, which was the case for me 14.23.45 # quelsaruk: we still need to adjust all occurrences with fixed strings in the source code 14.24.20 # did you have a look to the diffs i made? 14.24.30 # have you posted them? 14.24.33 # yes 14.24.37 # some days ago 14.24.44 # can't remember when 14.24.45 # me check 14.24.47 # but last week 14.25.17 # found it 14.25.22 # i think its the one of the latest mails in that thread 14.25.38 # the attachment index is neat 14.25.50 # ok, I can comment it right away 14.26.19 # I want access-macros that use the string ID in the style: getstring(LANG_PLAYLIST) 14.26.46 # hehe "Yesterday I upgraded from 1.3 to the latest daily build (20.10.02)." 14.26.55 # where to get updates from future? 14.28.04 Quit Zagor|lunch ("Client Exiting") 14.29.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.29.56 # quelsaruk: also, I want IDs that describes the text, so not LANG_PLAYLIST_1 but rather LANG_LOADING etc 14.30.56 # ok.. 14.31.08 # got it Bagder 14.31.14 # :-) 14.31.17 # :) 14.32.24 # and sorry for not noticing this before 14.32.32 # as i had no notices from you, now i was trying to make non-continuous play, so this must wait at lesat one week, ok? 14.32.47 # sure 14.33.00 # I'll sort out the lang file format in the mean time 14.33.05 # doesn't matter... there are a lot of mails.. and that was when we had the mail loop with the "funny" word 14.33.13 # aha 14.33.28 # so.. it's normal to miss one 14.35.04 # lunch time, cu later 14.35.12 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.35.12 # see ya 14.35.22 # * adi|home sighs 14.35.34 # even if i wanted to escape 9-11 14.35.36 # i can't 14.35.43 # _every_ tv channel 14.35.47 # _every_ radio statio 14.35.53 # tv sucks 14.35.55 # so does the radio 14.36.05 # listen more mp3 then 14.36.10 # its all a bunch of crap the rest of the time 14.36.19 # now it's all just focused crap 14.36.37 # well.. i dunno if i would call it crap... 14.36.44 # but i just... 14.36.48 # * adi|home shrugs 14.37.16 # just focus on business, and code Rockbox!!! 14.40.04 # FAQ #39's kinda out dated isn't it? 14.41.26 Join Phantom [0] (Phantom@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-2-216.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.41.30 # Hi ! 14.41.33 # Salut ! 14.41.40 # Bonjour ! 14.41.44 # hey ho 14.42.02 # HELO 14.42.14 # no.. not yet PsycoXul 14.42.16 # Is there somebody with the last propfont ? ;-) 14.42.20 # not until we reach 1.4 14.42.33 # the last propfont? 14.42.53 # I want to play classic snake with propfont 14.43.00 # hehe 14.43.04 # then build one ;-) 14.43.50 # if I was able to build one a french rockbox should allready be out 14.44.01 # ;-) 14.45.16 # ? 14.45.24 # nobody is here ? 14.46.05 # Phantom: only 25 ppl and you ;-) 14.47.12 # lol 14.47.27 # but nobody say anything 14.47.33 # right 14.47.42 # most of us are busy with various things 14.48.27 # so if I want "propfont" with snake classic i need to ask to god ? 14.49.09 # i am god 14.49.15 # hehe 14.49.22 # Phantom: hang on 14.49.44 # i'm god too, but not the kind to help you with that, sorry 14.51.18 # Phantom: http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec.ajz 14.53.05 # I love you 14.54.37 # question : why don't make a version with both fonts ? 14.54.57 # answer: the propfonts are subject for removal 14.55.03 # and we'll use loadable fonts all over 14.55.36 # cool 14.56.26 Quit Phantom () 15.01.57 Nick elinenbe|sleep is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 15.02.05 # adi|home : you here? 15.26.38 # resume is only possible after booting up is that right? 15.27.17 Join wodokm [0] (wodokm@sunhalle13.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) 15.27.32 # hi you all, linus u there ? 15.28.37 # i am 15.31.49 # ah great, i'm currently using v1. where you (guys) have fixed sound distortion once again. but it's not 100%, or am i the only one that noticed that? when i use my headphones with vol >70 or 80, it's so messed up ;( 15.32.49 # maybe its your headphones cant handle it 15.33.25 # data: na, it's not that loud that i'd be trashed, i have it on my amp at home now, lemme try volume 100 15.34.05 # wodokm: does the distortion disappear when you increase the treble? 15.34.06 # as far as i can tell the max volume with the rockbox firmware is much louder than the max with the standard firmware 15.34.25 # datazone-work: it is 15.34.40 # the 100% on the original is like 86% on rockbox 15.35.03 # actualy it depends on the bass/treble settings too 15.35.08 # datazone-work: that depends on the bass/treble settings 15.35.25 # when i've got them set fairly high, the 100% original is more like 75 or 80% on rockbox 15.35.39 # i see 15.35.52 # we try to max out the volume 15.36.07 # so if the treble/bass is low we can have a higher volume 15.36.19 # and better quality 15.36.24 # my headphones sound right without having to adjust anything but the volume, so i dont worry about it 15.36.25 # lunis: my bass/treb settings are 7db and 7db... strange thing, in the first version there was this where i sent you the waves, but this seems to be some other kind of distortion... 15.36.48 # data: you have player >4.5? 15.36.55 # yeah 15.37.21 # data: strange... 15.37.40 # linus: btw do you go for not displaying .mp3 and .mp3 ? ;-)) 15.38.25 # eh? 15.38.48 # linus: sounds clipped, mostly on bass (it's where i notice it).. i don't know if thee's distortion on lowe volumes also, i'll go for the sampling method again ;( 15.39.09 # linus: WPS set to filename, it sould not display the file-extension... 15.39.34 # wodokm: it still does in the WPS 15.39.41 # wodokm: there's 2 seperate tags for that now, one with and one without 15.39.51 # wodokm: does it sound the same if you connect the line-out? 15.40.13 # ah okay i guessed you guys will take care of this, you just know everything i want to be improved - because you want it too ;-) 15.40.18 # wodokm: with the custom WPS in CVS that is 15.40.23 # linus_ i'll check moment 15.40.47 # linus, you havent forgotten about my slash sound 15.40.52 # splash 15.40.55 # line-out sounds fine!! 15.42.29 # cool, custom wps ;-) tooo cool guys 15.44.27 # i can't hear a difference between 72% and lineout for now on that song, i'll check if therre's a difference... 15.44.41 # LinusN: how is the queue stuff coming? 15.44.58 # elinenbe: haven't had the time 15.45.32 Quit herenot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.46.11 # wodokm: remember that the Ear jack isn't exactly tailored for connection to an amplifier 15.46.24 # that's what the Line out jack is for 15.49.41 # well, yeah , well: i'll go grab my headphones and test with them again, and do some sampling.. strange thing.. 15.55.48 # * mecraw12 wakes up to no CVS commits 15.58.31 # linus: hee we go: line-out -> amp -> headphones : sounds okay i can turn the volume up like hell! 15.59.09 # linus: ear-out on 90 or 100 or so ->headphones : sounds terrible... ;( 16.00.12 # 90? 16.00.25 # well, what do you expect? 16.00.25 # I've never been able to go that high ;-) 16.00.43 # My ears hurt when i do that 16.03.06 # badger: 90% on volume setting 16.03.37 # linus: hmm maybe i should try the newest build first before discussing on? 16.03.40 # if I go to 90 I blow my ears off 16.03.49 # wodokm: no need to try new builds 16.04.04 # wodokm: what do you expect to happen? 16.04.14 # linus: maybe you changed smtg 16.04.29 # why do you think that you should be able to push it to 100% without distortion? 16.05.05 # it all depends on your amplifier/headphones 16.05.34 # all we can do is to lower the max volume, and many people would dislike that 16.06.46 # linus: as i told you it's not the amp/headphones, the same volume when going via line-out then amp works on the headphones, so there must be some reason for the distoriion.. 16.07.35 # wodokm: the Ear out jack is different from the Line out jack 16.07.51 # linus: if it's just a problem of being too loud, it's okay (well, yeah ;( ) but i just wondered that it may be some general "bug", i have to check out the lower volumes again, so maybe they're 100% un-distorted... 16.07.55 # it is tailored to be connected to *earphones*, not amplifiers 16.08.25 # i think it is a question of output levels and impedance 16.08.45 # linus: sure, but from 84% upwards it gets distorted, and again: the headphones work with such ear-killing-volumes.. that's my point. 16.08.53 # if the Line-out sounds okay, there is nothing we can do except lower the volume 16.09.24 # wodokm: the amplifier in the Archos is weak, it can't drive all types of ear phones 16.09.57 # linus: just dunno if it's a bug again like the last times or it's simply that the ear out can't take such louds volumes (by hardware), so no one can fix it... 16.10.17 # wodokm: if the line-out sound okay, there is no bug 16.10.33 # sorry 16.11.14 # unless you get better results in the archos firmware I'd just say the internal amplifier is not great 16.11.17 # linus: okay, that's an answer ;-) 16.11.50 # linus: what had you misadjusted so there were the 2 bugs that caused distortion? 16.12.27 # linus: it's some other kind of distortion , so it really maybe the cheap ear-out-amp 16.13.02 # wodokm: there is a hardware "bug" on some players that sets up the D/A converter wrong, so we have to explicitly set it by S/W 16.13.51 # secondly, the addresses of the PLL registers are moved on some revisions of the chip 16.16.00 # ah okay, anyway, you get that kind of messed sound also when at 86% andhigher, or didn't you try with your headphones? 16.16.41 # linus: not that it's some other "hardware bug" noone knows about ;) 16.18.49 # hehe, i'm afraid not... 16.21.40 # linus: okay, so it's messed up with your jb too, it's not some probs of my jb hardware rev. ... is it the same on the recorder? 16.23.29 Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) 16.24.10 Quit Snorlax (Client Quit) 16.25.59 # wodokm: that was the problem, none of my Players experienced the problem 16.26.15 # i had to rely on other people to do the testing 16.26.45 # the recorder doesn't have any such problem 16.26.58 # ah okay... 16.27.21 # so you have it messed up on earphones also with >86% 16.28.18 # linus: and sorry for getting on your nerves ;( 16.29.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.33.54 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.34.51 # wodokm: i don't know if the sound is distorted when i turn up the volume that much 16.35.08 # it gets so loud that i can't bear the pain! :-) 16.35.54 # maybe u should raise the volume slowly for a week or so :) 16.36.00 # linus: hmm strange issue then..... 16.36.02 # haha 16.36.12 # wodokm: i don't find it strange at all 16.36.39 # schnueff: heheh, but it' snot that problem for me to do 90%... dumb ppl use this as earphone volume, you it works for a short time... 16.36.56 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 16.37.07 # hi again 16.37.12 # wb 16.37.28 # perhaps dumb people will be discouraged from making themselves deaf if it sounds worse at >90% :P 16.37.31 # lkinus: maybe there's really something hehehe... i'll test at some other jukebox then... 16.38.22 # pim: heheh yeah, you guys are sponsored by the state's health commission o what??? i just wanna connect it to some passive speakers on the beach/lake and such... 16.38.34 # that's why i need power outta the ear-out ;) 16.41.31 # better bring your amp 16.44.25 # pim: would work fine with 100% volume if undistorted, but hey, i'm happy with the cool features of rockbox, so it's okay ;) 16.45.39 # if it sound any different with the archos firmwire, then it might be a rockbox issue, otherwise I'd call it hardware 16.48.05 # yeah i'll compare output with archos 100% and the corespondig rockbox output, if that's okay, everything's fine ;-))) 16.59.28 Part LinusN 17.03.51 Part elinenbe 17.20.23 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 17.20.44 # morning all 17.20.50 # moin 17.20.50 # hey hardeep 17.22.06 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 17.23.19 # not a single commit today! 17.23.34 Quit edx|school (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.23.58 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.36.28 # Badger: woohoo! 17.37.01 # well Greg stepped on my toes :-) 17.50.27 Quit wodokm ("Leaving") 17.51.04 # Bagder: did you get his code yet? It would be nice to get that submitted and the problems worked out. 17.51.53 # haven't got it, no 17.58.53 Part Bagder 18.10.09 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|out (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 18.15.48 Join EnnaN [0] (bla@cc53164-b.groni1.gr.nl.home.com) 18.16.11 Quit EnnaN (Client Quit) 18.22.13 Part bobTHC 18.27.54 Join edx|school [0] (~edx@pD9EABE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.12 Nick edx|school is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EABE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.29.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.35.00 Join RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) 18.37.07 Quit RipnetUK (Client Quit) 19.05.01 Nick edx is now known as edx|eats (~edx@pD9EABE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.09.52 Join Phantom [0] (Phantom@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-1-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.10.06 # hi again ! 19.10.24 # question : do you need a french translator ? 19.16.29 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 19.17.06 # question : do you need a french translator ? 19.29.29 Nick edx|eats is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EABE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.31.02 # question : do you need a french translator ? 19.33.41 # if you want to make a translation that's fine, but there is not a good system in place yet for translations 19.33.50 # the only one done so far was done manually 19.34.30 # so unless you really want one for yourself it'd probably be best to wait until a translation scheme is in place 19.36.48 # okey dokey 19.37.29 Quit Phantom () 20.29.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.58.38 Join dmitri_tsd [0] (Tsd@193.209.142.16) 21.40.39 Quit dmitri_tsd (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.42.00 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.42.13 Nick edx is now known as edx|slee (~edx@pD9EABE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.42.15 Nick edx|slee is now known as edx|sleep (~edx@pD9EABE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.49.12 Quit Hes (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.53.52 Quit datazone-work ("I like core dumps") 21.55.52 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bdacb.pppool.de) 21.56.32 # Guten Abend! 21.58.13 # Has there been a discussion about _completely_ configurable user interface yet? 22.02.06 # Pimlottc: Are you awake? 22.02.44 # Oh, sorry, name conflict. 22.03.35 # I meant someone else. 22.13.11 # Is there a shift operator that rolls in ones in c? 22.13.25 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.15.34 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 22.29.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.38.46 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 23.37.17 Join AaronD1 [0] (~woop@66.81.88.2) 23.39.38 # how goes it peeps? 23.44.12 Quit Zagor|away ("Client Exiting") 23.46.29 # woohoo new mac drivers finaly 23.46.43 # been better 23.46.49 # considering the date 23.48.49 # yeah 23.51.07 # nothing new has happened today like they predicted though has it?