--- Log for 26.09.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 26 days and 13 hours ago 00.17.40 Quit edx () 00.36.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.46.13 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-35-4-76.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.51.14 Quit Jbell73w () 01.03.24 Join dfg [0] (~prv@24-168-60-244.nyc.rr.com) 01.04.07 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.27.12 Join k33k [0] (keek_de@pD951E72C.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.29.39 # hello. just some nice greetings to all the rockbox developers around. nice job, you've done ! i like rockbox very much ! 01.41.42 # phew. newer seen an irc channel with so much users just idling around :D 01.43.17 Join Moof [0] (~moof@195.101.176.125) 01.43.18 # op 01.43.30 # oops sorry 01.43.33 # hi everyone 01.54.02 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 02.08.21 Quit freshmaker (Remote closed the connection) 02.23.16 Part k33k 02.36.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.52.30 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 02.54.39 Quit Moof ("Client Exiting") 03.04.03 Join Yeft [0] (Yeft@AC833ABF.ipt.aol.com) 03.04.07 # 'ello 03.04.17 # howdy 03.04.37 # i luv rockbox!! 03.05.08 # was about to throw my JB 6000 out the window............. 03.05.14 # then i found rockbox 03.05.25 # ...................just thought id share my story : ) 03.05.45 # Yes, it's an Archos-saver 03.06.11 # ive only got 1 prob with it so far though....sometimes my archos neglects to turn on.... 03.06.31 # * Yeft slaps Yeft around a bit with a large trout 03.06.56 # * Yeft i think this is how u do it 03.07.05 # * Yeft wooohooo i remember IRC stuff 03.07.15 # im obviously bored 03.07.21 # apparently 03.08.53 # * Yeft runs around room screaming then sits back in comp chair like nothing happened 03.09.00 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 03.09.54 # no ops? 03.18.02 # they live in Sweden 03.18.13 # they won't be on for 5 hours 03.18.41 # o 03.23.51 Quit tot|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.24.01 # ive got a q......on the dail mods page are the mods w/ higher numbers newer??? 03.25.47 Nick Yeft is now known as Yefty (Yeft@AC833ABF.ipt.aol.com) 03.26.43 # the numbers are dates 03.26.49 # rally? 03.26.52 # didnt realize 03.26.56 # .....brb 03.27.14 # o koool ty 03.27.26 Nick Yefty is now known as yeft (Yeft@AC833ABF.ipt.aol.com) 03.27.30 # sorry bout that 03.42.35 # well cya around 03.42.42 # cya 03.42.46 Part yeft 04.36.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.23.10 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.52.43 Quit dfg ("Client Exiting") 06.36.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.17.40 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.19.59 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 07.36.13 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.49.20 # LinusN: Hi 07.51.27 # tjena 08.01.11 # early to rise ;-) 08.02.50 # :-) 08.05.42 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.06.06 Join edx|notebook [0] (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.06.07 Quit edx|notebook (Remote closed the connection) 08.12.53 Join gizz [0] (gizz@lyon-2-a7-62-147-23-159.dial.proxad.net) 08.24.07 Quit edx () 08.36.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.42.10 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 08.43.26 # LinusN: regarding the ata_read loop i can go from 10 to 8 instructions in C or to 7 if i can figure out the inline asm 08.45.24 # figure out? 08.45.36 # LinusN: i can't make the recorder to benchmark - "no rule to make target clr6x8.bdf..." is there a manual step i need to perform? 08.45.47 # resync your CVS 08.46.01 # ../tools/configure 08.46.34 # LinusN: format for insturctions - ok i downloaded daily-20020926 08.47.08 # aha, maybe we don't include all that is needed in the tar archoives 08.47.40 # LinusN: looks like it - it won't build as is 08.48.34 Quit gizz (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.50.20 # download the clr6x8.bdf from the web CVS and put it in firmware/fonts 08.51.10 # thanks 08.53.41 # rwood: look in thread.c for some assembly code hints 08.54.40 # i'll do that - the link that badgar gave last night has some good stuff i just haven't had time to look at it closely 08.54.54 # badger 08.55.45 # you can ask me for specifics 08.58.16 # the general format is asm("opcode using %x for arguments" "input constraints" () : "output constraints" (); 08.58.40 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@dsl-2129326-146.ip.versatel.de) 08.58.50 Nick matsl is now known as matsl|meeting (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 08.58.57 # thanks, let me try to get a timing benchmark to see if it is worth the effort 08.59.35 # moin 08.59.40 # the battle is the compiler wants to put a exts or extu after a mov.w even if it isn't needed 08.59.48 # how do you plan to benchmark? port pin & oscilloscope? 09.00.26 # rwood: for the ATA data? 09.00.34 # Schnueff: moin 09.00.37 # i call a dummy routine before and after the loop, i can trigger on the address of the routine in RAM 09.00.50 # ah, logic analyzer 09.00.54 # luxury 09.01.31 # borrowed from my company - out of date model for what we are doing now 09.01.58 # i have an LA, but haven't attached the busses 09.02.19 # i'm still using the unit... 09.03.25 # i have 10 address lines, and RAM control lines + i2c 09.03.49 # sound like hell to attach them 09.04.14 # it took my rework guy three hours to tack the wires on 09.04.22 # it is hell, without good equipment and steady hands 09.04.34 # fortunately, i have both 09.04.50 # But only on alcohol? 09.04.53 # :) 09.04.58 # :-) 09.05.19 # clock is only available on the sh1 between power and ground - that one we examined carefully before powering up 09.06.00 # rwood: does auto-poweroff work for you? 09.06.54 # haven't tried it yet - i'll do it when i get this build - recorder only or both? 09.07.20 # recorder 09.07.36 # i haven't seen error reports on the Player models 09.07.54 # have to take the dog for a short walk - back in 10-15 minutes 09.13.31 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.13.41 # good morning! 09.13.50 # moin! 09.24.08 # LinusN: auto-power off on my recorder is ok 09.24.20 # good 09.29.47 # rwood: what recorder do you have? 09.33.37 # LinusN: 1.28 firmware - only had it a month or so 09.34.43 # ok 09.38.56 # LinusN: What have you done? auto shut off works here now, too! 09.40.45 # the power_off() function forgot to disable IRQ and hang 10.18.15 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.25.45 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.30.33 # Just done cvs update -dP, but get compilation errors - cant use convbdf ... 10.30.46 # How do I build this tool? 10.32.16 # LinusN: is anyone going do anything about the buffer empty/blank screen problem for 1.4 or put it off later? 10.34.03 # okay silly me... make!!! 10.35.19 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-166.ath.forthnet.gr) 10.35.30 # rwood: what are you talking about? 10.35.41 # you mean the mpeg dma? 10.35.59 # yes 10.36.41 # OT: any EAC users here ever see the 'unhandled exception: compression.NNN > ASSIGN-RANGE' error? 10.36.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.36.57 # the eac forum mentions it, but no answers 10.37.29 # what is EAC? 10.37.40 # sorry, exact audio copy 10.37.48 # one of the preferred rippers 10.37.51 # aha, no i haven't seen it 10.38.14 # using external LAME? 10.38.21 # yes 10.38.34 # fyi: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ 10.38.39 # i use it myself 10.38.46 # oh, ok 10.39.22 # you get it when compressing? 10.39.53 # yeah, seemingly irregularly, only when compressing WAVs from Tools 10.39.58 # after some WAV editing 10.40.12 # (i.e., not yet when doing straight rip/encode combo) 10.40.18 # http://www.digital-inn.de/showthread.php?s=22a5cd4be61efa26d5ba6241e81f1082&threadid=11521&highlight=unhandled+except+assignrange 10.40.21 # ok, you rip, edit wavs, and the compress? 10.40.25 # is one forum report on it. 10.40.35 # right, in these cases, yes 10.41.02 # don't see the problem regularly, and only when compressing WAVs on disc. 10.41.16 # in any case, if you haven't seen the bug.... 10.42.09 # that thread above mentions large disk problems, and indeed, this has started happening with a new 120 i installed, so it's possible it's something weird about that 10.42.20 # [shrug] oh well 10.42.35 # back to your normally scheduled programming 10.49.14 Join mem [0] (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) 10.49.28 # hi all 10.50.44 # yo 10.51.33 # * mem hopes to get a phone call today telling him that the Recorder will be delivered today... 10.52.07 # is your SH1 compiler ready? 10.53.15 # nope 10.53.19 Nick matsl|meeting is now known as matsl (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 10.53.35 Join Bagder [0] (~dast@mimas.contactor.se) 10.53.45 # Do I have to compile? I thought I could get a functional binary 10.53.52 # Bagder: hi! 10.53.55 # hey mem 10.54.04 # you got your recorder now? 10.54.56 # Bagder: No, I'm waiting for Portal to call me and ask for the delivery address... It should arrive in the middle or end of this week... 10.56.47 # aha, ok 10.57.17 # mem: you will develop on it, won't you? 10.58.48 Quit rwood () 11.01.46 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@callisto.contactor.se) 11.01.51 # LinusN: We'll see about that. It was a long time ago I used a compiler. Perl doesn't require a compiler :-) 11.03.05 # LinusN: But as I have some ideas maybe I have to set up the SH1 environment, as you guys /never/ do what the public asks from you :-) 11.03.19 # we mainly do rubbish 11.03.24 # that's what we do best ;-) 11.03.31 # * Zagor is the Rubbish Guru 11.03.45 # Bagder: It's good that you're honest at least :-) 11.04.49 # As far as I know, where I work ppl think it was rubbish... :-( 11.04.59 # haha 11.05.24 # But there are a few number of ppl that still think you did some nice haxx (like me and Mats, etc) 11.06.42 # I think they would like to put the rubbish in the dast-bin :-) 11.07.30 # or should it be /home/dast/bin :-) 11.08.26 # :-P 11.10.21 # mv src/rockbox /dev/null 11.10.34 # is there a way to get mixed c/asm output with -save-temps? 11.10.56 # LinusN: What's needed to set up the SH1 environment? 11.10.58 # there's some fancy-asm option I think 11.11.25 # mem: a brain and some time, plus a decent operating system (not required) 11.11.44 # -fverbose-asm perhaps 11.12.07 # LinusN: I just have the OS, not the time and the brain :-( 11.12.24 # mem: http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html 11.13.10 # mem: even small brains can understand this, i have seen Windows users doing this 11.13.46 # LinusN:-) 11.19.55 # sh-elf-objdump --disassemble --source 11.19.59 # that was it 11.20.35 # has anyone tried if todays build skips less? 11.20.48 # it never skips for me 11.20.53 # never has 11.21.01 # me neither, that's why i'm asking... 11.22.51 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508D9304.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.28.55 # off for lunch, see you later 11.28.56 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 11.29.31 # * mem leaving for lunch 11.29.37 Nick mem is now known as mem_away (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) 11.31.46 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 11.38.10 Quit kargatron (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.49.54 Quit TotMacher () 12.25.46 Nick matsl is now known as matsl|lunch (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 12.35.48 Nick mem_away is now known as mem (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) 12.36.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.12.41 Join matp [0] (~mpritch@62.189.77.219) 13.12.49 # hello all 13.15.51 Quit matp (Client Quit) 13.18.18 Join vekar [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-544.ath.forthnet.gr) 13.20.43 # Is there a date for feature freeze for 1.4? 13.25.42 # not really 13.26.00 # but we are semi-frozen today 13.41.12 Join probonic [0] (~phil@host217-36-15-39.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 13.42.52 Join Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 13.43.14 Quit Synthe (Connection reset by peer) 13.49.37 # Will I get a chance to deliver some peak meter code tonight or is that too late? 13.50.02 # (I was lazy last night) 13.50.58 # langhaarrocker: yes, but hurry up 13.51.04 # we want that in 1.4 13.51.47 # make sure that the code is nice and tidy, so it it easily applied 13.53.29 # LinusN: what about the backlight-patch? 13.53.46 # we are adding that too 13.54.05 # ok 13.57.50 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@p5082CC48.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.00.37 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.01.21 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 14.03.09 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.03.36 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.03.39 # hi 14.03.51 # hi 14.04.31 # Bagder: i found a text string i forgot to translate ;) could you fix it so i don't have to submit a patch to the mail list? 14.05.03 # use the patch tracker please 14.05.23 # ok 14.07.38 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 14.07.48 # hi Zagor 14.07.58 # hi 14.12.04 # Zagor: I've implemented the player progress bar we talked about over a beer last week. 14.12.12 # cool! 14.12.13 Nick matsl|lunch is now known as matsl (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 14.12.56 # It is not completely smoot. Want me to check it in or send a patch for review? 14.13.05 # send a patch first 14.13.28 # ok. I'll drop a patch to the list. 14.18.14 # Zagor: anything new about the missing scrollbar you had in the sound menu? 14.19.03 # freshmaker: no. i still get it. 14.19.51 # i thought you don't get the scrollbar, although you should have 14.20.07 # and not other way round 14.21.27 # right. i meant i still get the bug. 14.23.31 # is status bar on or off? 14.24.16 # on 14.25.19 # today's daily build has it 14.25.43 # Zagor: patch sent to the list 14.26.15 # ok, i'll try the latest cvs... 14.26.34 # matsl: testing 14.28.07 Nick LinusN|away is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 14.32.20 # matsl: it gets a bit jerky 14.32.48 # Zagor: Yes. 14.33.07 # can I make it smoother some how? 14.33.20 # Zagor: ok, latest vanilla CVS, no user font: with statusbar on, i get the scrollbar in sound menu as expected. w/o statusbar the scrollbar disappears as it isn't needed. i can't reproduce the problem. 14.34.33 Join Evil_Mind [0] (~StealthWa@80.178.71.142) 14.34.58 # * Zagor looks very embarrassed 14.35.22 # freshmaker: umm... eh... 14.35.38 # freshmaker: i didn't have the scrollbar on... 14.35.48 # hahaha 14.36.10 # Bagder: diff sent 14.36.24 # :-) 14.36.29 # a really stupid error 14.36.30 # quelsaruk: have you reached anywhere on the repeat issue? 14.36.38 # more or less 14.36.42 # matsl: 20 second tracks look really funny :-) 14.36.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.36.55 # matsl: but I still like it 14.37.23 # hi! 14.37.58 # Bagder: i'm going to live to italy in 2 weeks, so i have quite few free time, but i think i've found a way to make it work... i hope to finish it soon 14.38.03 # Zagor: Good if it makes you happy. 14.38.29 # i didnt understand the lang stuff... 14.38.42 # i want to insert hebrew.... 14.38.49 # uh 14.38.55 # Evil_Mind: you can't yet. we only support left-to-right text 14.39.00 # Zagor: Shall I feed it to CVS? 14.39.12 # well, we have have hebrew texts in there anyway 14.39.15 # matsl: wait a bit. i'd like some more opinions. 14.39.29 # but you'd need an 8bit hebrew font 14.39.31 # yes? 14.39.42 # who else is from israel here? 14.40.02 # I'm not aware of anyone 14.40.06 # Zagor: OK 14.40.07 # lunch time, cu you later! 14.40.11 # so i should be able to see hebrew letter of my hebrew songs? 14.40.31 # Evil_Mind: do you have a special font for hewbrew? 14.40.50 # of course, the scrolling should be going the other direction for hebrew 14.40.58 # where? 14.41.06 # where what? 14.41.21 # i have special fonts...? 14.41.33 # well, don't you? 14.41.33 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 14.41.46 # I asked you 14.41.57 # Evil_Mind: you need a special font, of course. hebrew is not iso-8859-1 14.42.01 # you mean on the computeR? 14.42.07 # Evil_Mind: yes 14.42.09 # Zagor: For short songs we could fall back to the present grafics and for long songs we could have more squares moving ;-) 14.42.13 # on the archos 14.42.26 # Evil_Mind: you use a special hebrew font in normal cases for hebrew, right? 14.42.27 # matsl: yup 14.42.35 # yes....i think so.. 14.42.59 # Evil_Mind: so, you need one of those as .bdf and convert it to a rockbox font 14.43.15 # as an 8bit font 14.43.17 # where can i find those files? 14.43.29 # I don't know, you're the hebrew man here ;-) 14.43.33 # try google 14.43.51 # bdf is a very commonly used font format 14.43.56 # its not the fonts in the windows directory? 14.44.17 # no 14.44.27 # woo, a new game! ;-) 14.44.58 # wow! 14.45.05 # neato 14.45.05 # just what we need for 1.4 14.45.20 # we could never get people to upgrade without new games 14.45.43 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020914]") 14.45.47 # one game per version 14.46.04 # so Archos must have 28 games :-) 14.46.25 # but i can't find them 14.46.42 # What do you expect by a toy firmware 14.46.49 # you must save a file using the name GIMMEGAMES for them to appear 14.47.37 # GAMESON as artist name 14.51.57 # http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html 14.51.58 # this ? 14.52.24 # right. you need to fix an iso-8859-8 font 14.52.42 # how 14.52.43 # ? 14.53.06 # i don't know. how does hebrew work on your computer? 14.53.18 # what do you mean? 14.54.55 # ? 14.55.07 # try this one: http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/iso8859-8.fnt 14.56.28 # its mess 14.57.04 # ? 14.57.43 # what should i do with it? 14.57.56 # copy it to your archos and play it 14.58.06 # the file? 14.58.10 # blabla.fnt? 14.58.16 # yes 14.58.29 # and use a recent rockbox build 14.58.38 # ok.... 14.59.02 # Evil_Mind: you do have a recorder, right= 14.59.40 # wrong... 14.59.47 # i got the playeer.... 14.59.48 # then you can't change font 14.59.55 # ??? 15.00.03 # why? 15.00.05 # Bagder: only the latest CVS version of GDB has a memory dump feature 15.00.13 # ugh 15.00.16 # GDB? 15.00.22 # i compiled it and saved my recorded MP3 15.00.25 # Evil_Mind: because the player display can not change font 15.00.28 # and it WORKED! 15.00.29 # coolness 15.00.32 # *dang* 15.00.37 # you rock linus 15.01.00 # now i'm only waiting for Zagors FAT32 fix... :-) 15.01.11 # hehe 15.01.11 # Evil_Mind: GDB = Gnu Debugger 15.01.23 # so no hebrew 4 my player?..... 15.01.26 # now we have hebrew, thai, greek and arabic support :-) 15.01.30 # Evil_Mind: no, only for recorders 15.01.33 # never? 15.01.36 # never 15.01.41 # Evil_Mind: not possible 15.01.43 # the *.lang files are not automaticaly update with new ID ? 15.01.45 # Evil_Mind: buy a recorder first ;-) 15.01.47 # it's a hardware limitation 15.02.03 # oh....F**k It.... 15.02.09 # oh, and cyrillic 15.02.10 # bobTHC: no, you 'uplang' to get them 15.03.35 # where is uplang ? 15.03.39 # in tools 15.03.43 # ok.. 15.05.30 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@p5082CC48.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.07.01 # http://czyborra.com/charsets/bdftogif looks a lot simpler than bdf2bmp.c 15.07.26 # we like simple 15.07.59 # ? 15.08.50 # Evil_Mind: for font presentation on the upcoming font download page on the rockbox site 15.09.56 # can u make a degauss option on rockbox? 15.10.12 # ??? there is no gauss. how could we degauss? 15.10.14 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@209.19.18.82) 15.10.32 # i dont know..... 15.10.37 # what is gauss? 15.10.37 # elinenbe: i uploaded some thai and other fonts. you may want to try them with your asian tags. 15.13.30 # RoLO stuck my player now 15.13.47 # i just clicked on it and .....its loading.......................... 15.15.05 # ? 15.15.19 # lots of '?' here... :-) 15.16.10 # what is it supose to do? 15.16.12 # the rolo 15.16.20 # load another firmware 15.17.00 # Zagor: okay... I'll check it before I wreck it. 15.17.18 # but ..... i have only the internal archos 5.08 and today''s rockbox 15.17.22 # Zagor: how is disk writing coming? 15.17.35 # Evil_Mind: so what's your question again? 15.17.39 # elinenbe: it's on ice until 1.4 gets out 15.17.49 # Zagor: how is ON + up/down as pgup/pgdn [zagor] 15.18.27 # you might think I am crazy, but I love the smalltalkmonotight.fnt (only it is kind of large :)) 15.18.39 # elinenbe: ON+UP/DOWN is pitch control 15.18.48 # * Bagder thinks elinenbe is crazy ;-) 15.18.48 # elinenbe: hehe 15.18.54 # elinenbe: i am silly 15.19.06 # elinenbe: coming coming... 15.19.07 # Zagor: where is the thai fonts? 15.19.16 # what do i need the rolo for?| 15.19.25 # elinenbe: http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/ 15.19.32 # Evil_Mind: to load whatever firmware you want from the dir browser 15.19.41 # ok... 15.19.59 # elinenbe: thai is iso8859-11 15.20.25 # okay. I will check it out. 15.20.33 # we need a thai.lang ;-) 15.21.15 # who will be the first to write arabic.lang :-) 15.21.44 # bye bye 15.21.48 # Zagor: probably the one that first hears about the right-to-left feature 15.21.52 Quit Evil_Mind ("Live the rest, die like the best §TEÅLTH WÅR §©®|PT B¥ NIGHTWOLF") 15.22.10 # LinusN: well as bagder said, that's only important for the scroller 15.22.10 # LinusN: we don't need right-to-left to support arabic 15.22.23 # we don't? 15.22.33 # most of our language stuff is direction agnostic 15.22.53 # with the exception being the scrolling 15.22.59 # how does an arab want the menus to be aligned? 15.23.17 # yeah, of course they might think we have some glitches 15.23.19 # but it would still work 15.23.32 # it will not be perfect, but better than nothing 15.23.41 # of course 15.25.19 # time to go home 15.25.24 # bye guys! 15.25.30 # bye linus 15.26.19 # bye 15.28.36 Part LinusN 15.29.51 # * mem is leaving. I didn't get the recorder today. I hope it arrives tomorrow! CU all!!! 15.29.56 Quit mem ("bye bye") 15.44.37 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 16.20.50 # french how u translate Idle Poweroff ??? :) 16.23.05 # zagor i post the updated francais.lang with a blank for "idle poweroff" 16.23.49 # ok 16.30.58 Join edx|notebook [0] (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.30.58 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.31.01 Quit edx (Remote closed the connection) 16.31.04 Quit edx|notebook (Remote closed the connection) 16.36.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.39.37 # * bobTHC francais.lang commited 16.42.36 # how do I post a patch that consists of mutiple files to sourceforge patch tracker? 16.42.58 # concatenate all files into one 16.43.52 # that's a bit confusing to cat new *.c *.h files that haven't existed in cvs before. 16.44.03 # hm, right 16.44.17 # there must be a way to use the -N diff flag with cvs 16.44.33 # tar it;) 16.44.44 # cvs do that itself if you've done 'cvs add' first, but its not possible without write access! ;-( 16.45.13 # Don't want to tar it for Zagors sake. 16.45.44 # i'm joking.. 16.46.03 # :) 16.49.14 # time to go and smack people's legs with sticks 16.49.19 # see ya 16.49.22 Part Bagder 16.56.19 Part bobTHC 16.57.26 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.00.23 # I don't see a way around the tar joke. 17.00.52 # Zagor: will you beat me when you get a tared patch with new files? 17.01.13 # langhaarrocker: hang on a bit, i think i've got a solution 17.01.20 # cool 17.02.55 # run "diff -ub /dev/null newfile.c" to get proper diff output for new files. then add that to the diff. 17.06.49 # tricky 17.10.51 # or you can simply touch the files in the original tree, so that empty files are created. 17.11.33 # i think he doesnt keep an original tree 17.12.00 # I do but I made _new_ files that don't exist in cvs yet. 17.12.12 # how does one make a diff without an original tree? 17.12.20 # diff against cvs 17.12.33 # No, diff against /dev/null 17.12.39 # i.e. modify check out cvs tree, then cvs diff 17.13.24 # langhaarrocker: yes 17.14.17 # btw: avoid hitting the reload button when you added a patch. Seems I submitted the same patch thrice by doing so. 17.21.42 # hehe 17.25.11 # Now I sent a 'peak meter light' patch. Without busy reading. 17.25.51 # ok, good 17.25.52 # db scaling has to wait for 1.5, too 17.27.06 # langhaarrocker: i don't see a file attached to your patch 17.27.45 # unbelievable! 17.28.13 # i thought so, too :) 17.30.35 Join LWi [0] (~LWi@pD9E4994A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.31.13 # maybe u uploaded /dev/null by accident ? :) 17.31.30 # langhaarrocker: no file again! 17.31.42 # Just hope it doesn't suck away the existing cvs 17.31.49 # the new game that was sent to the list is incredible. 17.32.12 # Zagor: don't you think that the games at least should use the default font. 17.32.15 # Zagor: don't you think that the games at least should use the default font? 17.32.43 # elinenbe: that's probably a good idea. but i'm leaving that up to the game programmers. 17.32.52 # how to clean up messed up patches in sourceforge? 17.33.19 # i'm not familiar with the plans, but why build games into the firmware instead of putting them in files and load them from disk? 17.33.35 # Zagor: the games look all messed up with a large font (I only use at least 24x32) 17.33.45 # Lwi: we have no module loading 17.33.59 # LWi: but, if you want to do that go ahead. 17.34.26 # langhaarrocker: no file again! 17.34.46 # langhaarrocker: wait, it is there. 17.34.50 # Well I can dowload one 17.35.03 # langhaarrocker: sorry. 17.35.06 # I got it now. 17.35.46 # langhaarrocker: what are you going to work on now? you are always working on fun stuff. 17.35.58 # Zagor: can we have more then 8 lines 17.36.04 # Zagor: on the WPS? 17.36.22 # max is 10 17.36.29 # Zagor: oh.. nice. 17.36.54 # elinenbe: There's so many things! Apart from the split editor stuff I actually am dreaming about another game with loadable scenery. 17.37.36 # langhaarrocker: go for it. that sounds great. did you check out that new game? 17.37.44 # not yet 17.38.22 # it is quite fun. 17.38.45 # I'll have a try 17.39.02 # langhaarrocker: what is the height in pixels of the wps peak meter? 17.39.19 # 8 17.39.31 # No: wait: the height of 'M' 17.39.39 # langhaarrocker: M? 17.40.00 # langhaarrocker: ah... I get it. the height of M in the current font that is loaded. 17.40.08 # I stole height detection from the scrollbar. It is as high as an 'M' 17.41.26 # langhaarrocker: wormlet should have fixed fonts. 17.41.40 # langhaarrocker: if you have a huge font loaded, then it does not work properly 17.42.04 # f*&%k 17.42.10 # elinenbe: what font are you using? 17.42.54 Nick edx is now known as edx|sleep (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.12 Quit vekar ("Suckers!") 17.43.32 Quit LWi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.44.22 # Zagor: courB14.fnt 17.44.26 # ok 17.46.09 # Do I really have to learn how to fiddle with fonts? :) 17.49.03 # langhaarrocker: well, once you do it, then I will look at your code and fix up sokoban :) 17.49.05 Join LWi [0] (~LWi@pD9E4994A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.49.33 # is sokoban broken? 17.50.14 # no, but if you have a large font loaded, it does not work properly 17.50.24 # you just can't read the screen 17.56.55 # what about a check if FONT_UI meets the requirements (e.g. <= 8 pixels height, etc) and conditionally falling back to FONT_SYSFIXED? 17.57.20 # Yes, but not today. 18.00.30 # Is the howto somehow up to date: do I have to put a system.ajf into the jukebox root dir? 18.00.51 # ajf is dead 18.01.19 # the new font sheme uses .fnt; the user selectable default font is /.rockbox/default.fnt 18.02.01 # so docs will be updated once 1.4 is out , i think 18.02.17 # is the font changable without reboot? 18.02.23 Join datazone-work [0] (~datazone@2f.57.cf9e.cidr.airmail.net) 18.02.36 # yes, you simply 'play' the font 18.02.52 # Thanx 18.03.16 # that is, it is FONT_UI, that is changable. FONT_SYSFIXED will remain what it is. 18.06.04 # let me guess: bdf2ajf was the wrong conversion tool, I should use convbdf instead? 18.06.20 # yes 18.06.52 # And I _did_ read the faq... :) 18.09.18 Part LWi 18.14.37 # elinenbe: where do I find that courB14.fnt? 18.15.02 Join LWiCom [0] (~LWi@p508137FE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.16.05 # rockbox.haxx.se/fonts 18.17.09 # who can help I just installed a RAID card here --- what would it be /dev/hdc? 18.18.37 Quit pyvasene ("Leaving...") 18.21.46 # No idea but 18.22.08 # I completely misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about the peak meter not working with big fonts. 18.22.15 # (uff) 18.24.53 # uh i got a blank wps 18.25.02 # but that has got reported already iirc 18.25.19 # cu 18.25.39 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 18.26.32 # * notch thinks playable fonts are very cool... 18.27.19 # * notch has great respect for the font coders... 18.27.35 Part notch 18.27.43 # I think fonts should be recognized when they're stored in and ID3 tag and change the wps accordingly. 18.27.47 # :) 18.36.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.41.49 # another dumbuser question: how do I apply a patch? 18.44.04 # patch -p0 -i patchname 18.44.31 # the -p value depends how the pathnames in the patch look 18.46.18 # Thx That solved it 18.56.11 # cu 18.56.47 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 19.02.15 Quit datazone-work ("I like core dumps") 19.22.08 Join kreegee [0] (~kreegee@gw.adsl.ddn-ddn-133-212.netstream.ch) 19.22.57 Quit TotMacher () 19.40.02 # should i do something after copying the ajbrec.ajz in the root or can i plug out the usb cable and restart the jukebox? 19.40.35 # kreegee: make a safe eject first 19.40.43 # k 19.40.52 # right-click on the archos drive letter and choose "eject" 19.40.54 # so disable the device in windows... 19.40.56 # k 19.40.57 # thx 19.42.34 # is there any hold feature in the cvs-020925 ? 19.42.47 # yes. ON+DOWN 19.42.54 # or ON+STOP on players 19.43.10 # no, sorry. MENU+DOWN/STOP 19.43.17 # on recorders? 19.43.22 # ah 19.43.22 # F1+DOWN 19.43.26 # menu/down 19.43.29 # yeah 19.43.30 # got it 19.44.14 # it's not possible to browse the files while playing, isn't it? 19.45.21 # sure it is. just hit ON and you're back in the browser. 19.45.27 # ah, k 19.45.43 # the help should be improved for n00bs like me ;) 19.47.10 # try the manual :-) 19.47.52 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/ ? haven't found anything 'bout hold function... 19.48.04 # anyway, great work 19.48.17 # kreegee: look in the "while playing screen" 19.48.27 # "F1 + DOWN: Key lock on/off" 19.48.57 # oh 19.49.00 # i'm stupid 19.49.06 # i searched for "hold" 19.49.15 # i haven't read the hole page.. 19.49.18 # don't search, just read :p 19.49.59 # in future, i will 19.50.17 # Zagor: what are you planning on making the keys for page up/down 19.51.08 Nick edx|sleep is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.54.00 # hmm, the language has to be selected before compiling? 19.54.46 # elinenbe: i'm fixing it right now 19.54.54 # kreegee: no, not any more 19.54.58 # just load it 19.56.36 # hmm 19.56.49 # can i ask how or is it written in the manual? 20.00.11 # ;) 20.00.29 # i will search in the maillist archive 20.01.39 # got it ;) 20.04.44 # everything i have to do is to copy the .lang file in the root? 20.10.30 # forget it 20.14.33 # hmm, isn't there a binary version of binlang out there? 20.15.12 # ah, it's a good old perl script 20.23.16 Join merwin [0] (~none@12.242.185.10) 20.24.31 # * merwin thinks there should be a qix/quix game :-) 20.29.33 # * kreegee thinks that should be q3 with a usb2lan adapter :D 20.29.58 # btw. is it possible to turn the oscilator demo in the newest cvs? 20.30.58 # so it runs from left to right and not from bottom to top? 20.36.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.48.15 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA06D.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.59.40 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@p508DA06D.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.06.21 Quit merwin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.16 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 21.13.04 Join Django [0] (~Django@pD953CF54.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.19.23 Part LWiCom 21.26.17 # hmm 21.26.49 # im too stupid to change the lang in the newest cvs build... 22.05.40 Quit tot|away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.05.40 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.07.06 Join edx|notebook [0] (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.07.06 Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EABB13.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.07.06 Join tot|away [0] (tot@p508DA06D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.08.50 Join merwin [0] (~none@12.242.185.10) 22.11.32 Quit probonic () 22.14.59 Join YeAhx [0] (~aarond@66.81.88.2) 22.21.38 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.22.17 Quit mecraw12 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.43 Join mecraw12 [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 22.27.38 Join YeAhx1 [0] (~aarond@66.81.88.2) 22.28.06 Part YeAhx1 22.29.50 # ah, got it... 22.30.58 # Zagor: you got anything good coming up? 22.36.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.38.31 Quit merwin () 22.44.42 Quit YeAhx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.45.54 # Where can I get the CVS program for Win ME? 22.51.41 # elinenb: are you listening? 22.56.21 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 23.03.45 Join datazone-work [0] (~datazone@chaos.iadfw.net) 23.05.17 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.05.51 # LinusN: can you tell me please where i can get a CVS for Windows? 23.06.23 # I have added a dynamic playlist to rockbox, but 23.06.51 # my work is based on v1.3 because the source for that was easy to get. 23.07.21 Quit elinenbe () 23.07.47 # Django: http://www.wincvs.org/ 23.08.16 # Thanks! 23.08.18 # Django: we release the sources for the daily builds too 23.08.31 # yes, but they are not complete. 23.08.41 # mind i ask how your dynamic playlists work? 23.08.48 # Django: they are complete 23.09.10 # what is missing? 23.09.13 # Simple, the playlist in ram is 23.09.23 # dynamically filled. 23.09.30 # one file after the other. 23.09.44 # there are still a lot of things to sort out. 23.09.48 # like how to 23.10.07 # make it work with the player. I got my recorder just last week. 23.10.45 # I used the "right" button to start/add files to the queue. 23.11.06 # what are you missing from the daily build archives? 23.11.07 # The Play button works as normal and also cancels queue mode. 23.11.53 # I tried some days ago. First got the the sh-elf compiler and 23.12.14 # then tried the daily tarball. gave me lots of errors, 23.12.36 # missing files and the win32.mak seems to be not always up-to-date. 23.12.54 # no, the simulators use to lag behind 23.12.59 # So I got the v1.3 tar from your site and that compiled right away. 23.13.20 # a lot has happened since 1.3 23.13.34 # Haven't seen the sim yet. It wants some msvc70.dll which i don't have. 23.13.52 # I know, and the new fonts are cute. 23.13.54 # i've never used it 23.13.58 # the sim 23.14.23 # we are preparing for a 1.4 release now 23.14.31 # Ok, will try to get CSV working and get the current sources. 23.14.38 # do so 23.15.07 # By the way, my real name is Wilhelm Schroeder from Germany. 23.15.14 # Django: does auto-poweroff work for you? 23.15.49 # I am 47 years old have about 25 year of systems programming behind me :-) 23.16.00 # haven't tried auto power off yet. 23.16.03 # Django: great! 23.16.15 # we can use experienced hackers 23.16.36 # Well, my problem is time. 23.16.41 # there are quite a lot of germans in the project 23.16.52 # Django: time is always a problem 23.17.02 # I don#t think it makes a difference where you happen to live. 23.17.14 # it certainly doesn't 23.17.25 # we have developers from all over the world 23.17.55 # I have to go to bed now. Hm, if you are interested I can put the .ajz file on my web site now. 23.18.11 # i'd rather see the src :-) 23.18.13 # So you can try it. 23.18.29 # Ok, moment. 23.18.56 # Sorry, ftp doesn't work now. 23.19.06 # you can mail it to linus at haxx.se 23.19.16 # I will be back here in the coming days. 23.19.17 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B460c.pppool.de) 23.19.22 # So talk to you later. 23.19.24 # Django: no hurry 23.19.34 # night, Django 23.19.43 # hey, long hair! 23.19.55 # how's it going with the VU meters? 23.19.58 # heya 23.20.10 # I sent a patch in the afternoon. 23.20.20 # wowee! i missed that 23.20.29 # It should have appeared on the patch tracker of sourceforge. 23.20.33 Quit Django ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 23.20.41 # i see it now 23.20.57 # it's something like peak meter light. 23.21.08 # no busy reading. 23.21.17 # ok, with slow decay 23.21.26 # yes 23.22.18 # (how do you know that when you haven't seen it up to now?) 23.22.35 # i guessed that you would do that 23.22.39 # i would have 23.22.40 # :) 23.23.17 # And I made a function especially for You: you can switch between playback and record meter. 23.23.57 # i saw that 23.23.59 # great 23.24.10 # BTW, recording works 23.24.21 # jippieh! 23.24.24 # too bad i can't save the damn files :-( 23.24.41 # That's Zagaors fault, I guess? 23.24.52 # oh, yes. he is to blame! :-) 23.25.17 # priorities are on 1.4 right now 23.25.24 # so i can't blame him 23.25.49 # Features frozen? 23.26.32 # sort of 23.26.39 # we want your peak meters in 23.26.55 # and some other patches 23.27.10 # but no more big things 23.27.56 # Peak meters will be improved at V1.5. With dBfs and adjustable range. But not for 1.4 23.28.14 # coolers 23.28.29 # Will the new game be included in 1.4? It looks really nice! 23.28.45 # i guess so 23.28.57 # we need to have at least one new game for every release :-) 23.29.18 # i wonder, have you removed the peak meter thread? 23.29.30 # Yes. 23.29.43 # the stack is still there 23.29.55 # Then I missed that. 23.29.59 # and a lot of references to the "peak thread" in the comments 23.30.30 # I think the thread will come back one day. 23.31.06 # what's with the enable_pm variable? 23.31.55 # It is primarily for use in wps.c to disable the peak meter early. 23.32.00 # i see now 23.34.51 # i need info about the VBRI header format (secret Fraunhofer stuff) 23.35.24 # i know most of it, i just need to know how the TOC is supposed to work 23.35.45 Quit hardeep (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.35.51 # Wished I could be useful. :( 23.36.01 # it's so silly 23.36.15 # Fraunhofer keeps the spec secret 23.36.58 # what do they gain from that? 23.37.36 # Well they need to have something to sell in case you want to licence something, I guess. 23.39.20 # greedy bastards 23.40.27 # I used to work for Fraunhofer for some years. But not for anything concerning acustics, just for logistics. 23.40.49 # greedy bastard 23.40.51 # :-) 23.41.15 # You will get the peak meter thread only if you buy the licence! :) 23.42.25 # time to reboot into linux 23.42.33 # cu in a few 23.42.36 Part LinusN 23.42.37 # k 23.44.56 Quit kreegee ("i will return to wub you") 23.47.31 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.48.23 # hello again 23.48.29 # hi