--- Log for 29.09.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 29 days and 13 hours ago 00.18.57 Quit edx ("good night") 00.38.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.27 Join Mighty [0] (mboss@217.210.201.220) 01.15.10 Join Moof [0] (~moof@195.101.176.125) 01.15.47 # hello 01.21.37 Join Alex^^ [0] (~schwupp@pD9549783.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.21.39 # hello 01.21.42 # somebody here? 01.21.49 # I'm here :-) 01.21.53 # kool 01.22.09 # i search a developer of the rockbox team.. 01.22.20 # but I'm like manuel in faultytowers, i know 'noooouthing' 01.22.24 # i would know if there are more games.... 01.22.51 # the developed games are probably all in the cvs 01.22.57 # yes 01.23.05 # in the future 01.23.11 # will there be more games? 01.23.31 # i don't know, if someone has the time to develop them :-) 01.25.37 # the jb microswitches will get bad if you play too much on them :-)) 01.27.47 # jb? 01.27.52 # jukebox 01.34.24 Quit Mighty ("Killed by BlackJac (Requested by panasync)") 01.35.06 Quit Alex^^ ("llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll") 01.35.53 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (user@68.36.176.159) 01.51.20 Quit PiotR ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 02.12.34 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bda4d.pppool.de) 02.14.12 Quit langhaarrocker (Client Quit) 02.16.49 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 02.17.29 Part rwood 02.38.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.14.10 Join xtac [0] (s@24.187.106.117) 03.14.44 # what do you guys use to transfer your music? 03.15.14 # I used to just use drag and drop to f:\,but a friend notified me music match jukebox can do it through there program,but it's pretty useless 03.16.41 # it can't even add dir's 03.17.57 # 8mins to transfer 950mb's 03.18.32 # anyone know a program that can help me out? 03.21.30 # :( 03.32.10 Quit mecraw1212 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.32.23 Join mecraw1212 [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 03.32.32 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-32-240.mia.bellsouth.net) 03.42.52 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.07.41 Join Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 04.08.20 Join xtacx [0] (s@ool-18bb6a75.dyn.optonline.net) 04.08.45 Quit xtac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.08.45 Quit Synthe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.38.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.00.32 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.21.04 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-46.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 05.28.29 Join Mighty [0] (mboss@217.210.201.220) 05.28.36 # hello 05.37.58 # howdy 05.39.06 # linking fails when I use functions from dmalloc.h in the userspace software apps.. :-/ 05.39.37 # i don't think we have/want malloc available for firmware 05.39.41 # nods 05.39.44 # don't use malloc 05.39.49 # malloc in firmware is bad 05.39.57 # jesus 05.40.14 # no.. he's not coding on this project 05.40.17 # we don't like him 05.40.21 # ok, I have to adjust 05.40.25 # :-) 05.40.32 # why do you need to malloc space? 05.40.54 # I don't actually, I'm just used to it 05.41.05 # nods 05.41.37 # its a bad thing in firmware.. not needed 05.42.04 # if using str[blah] isn't that taking up space for the entire time a program execution thread is inside that one function? 05.42.41 # I've allways thought it'd be a more memoryineffective thing to do so I've usually used malloc's where it's possible 05.43.02 # im looking for the explaination that Zagor gave.. 05.43.05 # but the jist is this.. 05.43.21 # malloc is good when you have multi-programs/threads using the same memory.. 05.43.25 # we dont have that 05.43.34 # so using it just adds unneeded complexity 05.44.42 # mm, probably 05.48.18 # ah - ha.. found it 05.48.20 # FAQ 05.48.21 # #40 05.48.24 # Dynamic memory is only ever useful if you have memory consumers (tasks) that run at different points in time, and thus can reuse the same memory for different purposes. 05.48.24 # We don't have that 05.48.38 # its actually regarding dir/file listings.. but the idea is still the same... 05.48.52 # sorry.. #48 05.49.53 # that help? 05.52.25 # yeah I know one's supposed to use arrays when possible,, it's just me having a brainbug, I'm used to alloc :-) 05.54.43 # if you try to use a too big array the whole process will go down without any way to recover 06.17.16 # what do you guys use to transfer your music? 06.18.37 Quit xtacx ("ircN 7.27 + 7.0 for mIRC (2002/01/10 00.00)") 06.38.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.04.20 # Mighty: what do you mean by a too big array? 07.23.15 # adi|home, it's just a brainbug I have.. :-) 07.57.10 Join PsycoXul_ [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-101.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.04.41 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 08.06.19 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 08.06.51 Quit Mighty ("BitchX for president.") 08.14.50 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.24.00 Quit Moof ("Client Exiting") 08.38.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.14.13 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 09.14.47 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 09.28.37 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@63.205.42.51) 09.31.48 Quit PsycoXul_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.37.33 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 09.38.12 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 09.45.21 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 09.45.21 Quit PsycoXul (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit seb-sleep (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit datazone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit adi|home (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit Synthe` (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit mecraw1212 (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit webmind (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit dw|gone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.21 Quit Schnueff (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.45.40 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 09.45.40 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@63.205.42.51) 09.45.40 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-46.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.45.40 NJoin Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 09.45.40 NJoin mecraw1212 [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 09.45.40 NJoin seb-sleep [0] (user@68.36.176.159) 09.45.40 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 09.45.40 NJoin datazone [0] ([9r4HtgF64@207.136.36.203) 09.45.40 NJoin dw|gone [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 09.45.40 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 09.45.40 NJoin Schnueff [0] (~mah@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de) 09.46.30 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09.46.43 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 10.03.16 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA0CB.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.18.56 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@h106n1fls35o1002.telia.com) 10.31.31 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B285c.pppool.de) 10.38.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.03.45 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020826]") 11.22.13 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.25.39 Quit datazone (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.25.39 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.25.39 Quit seb-sleep (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.25.39 Quit PsycoXul (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.27.05 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.27.05 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@63.205.42.51) 11.27.05 NJoin seb-sleep [0] (user@68.36.176.159) 11.27.05 NJoin datazone [0] ([9r4HtgF64@207.136.36.203) 11.47.14 Quit edx () 12.38.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.19.59 Join Django [0] (~Django@pD953CFB8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.20.49 Nick Django is now known as Django|away (~Django@pD953CFB8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.20.52 Join edx [0] (~edx@217.184.180.134) 14.29.08 Quit datazone ("Client Exiting") 14.38.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.46.41 Join Exion [0] (jon@62.179.171.100) 14.49.22 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2366.pppool.de) 14.55.39 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 15.57.56 Quit Django|away ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 16.14.15 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 16.22.44 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 16.22.55 # morning, Zagor 16.22.57 # hi 16.23.11 # how's the weekend treating you? 16.23.39 # fairly good. have had a relaxed weekend, very little work. 16.27.31 # Good. All work and no play makes everyone dull. 16.38.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.48.40 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084AE29.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.54.09 Join PiotR [0] (piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 17.06.01 Join Django [0] (~Django@217.83.207.184) 17.08.15 Join datazone [0] ([E3j9NovMk@207.136.36.203) 17.16.33 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 17.17.30 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 17.19.31 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 17.49.23 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@p5084AE29.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.03.20 Nick edx is now known as edx|essen (~edx@217.184.180.134) 18.04.04 Quit Zagor (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18.04.04 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 18.04.32 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 18.04.32 NJoin Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 18.05.24 # Zagor: Hi! I can't find the instructions for contributions. Can you give me a hint please? 18.14.48 Quit Zagor (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18.14.48 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 18.15.38 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 18.15.38 NJoin Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 18.26.44 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@h106n1fls35o1002.telia.com) 18.33.28 Quit Zagor (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18.33.28 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 18.35.01 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 18.35.01 NJoin Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 18.38.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.52.31 Nick Django is now known as Django|away (~Django@217.83.207.184) 18.56.35 Join Django [0] (~Django@pD953C7B3.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.15.08 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 19.16.22 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 19.17.29 Quit Django|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.51.13 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@213.7.36.11) 19.54.06 # In patch 616125 (settings_load_eq) is a function read_line 19.54.07 # I think it is useful and should go into files.c / files.h 19.54.49 # But maybe it should be altered slightly. It returns a bool. I think it should return the number of chars read into the buffer or -1 if it failed. 19.55.46 # And it doesn't check for multiple eol appearances like cr / lf 20.03.25 # Zagor: how is file writing going on? 20.03.29 # Moin moin 20.03.45 # langhaarrocker: it's on the back burner until 1.4 is released 20.03.49 # Langhaar: noch da? 20.03.53 # yes 20.04.26 # I need file writing because the gui for the split editor is almost finished :) 20.04.32 # How do I send contributions? 20.04.47 # Do I need a login on sourceforge? 20.04.53 # no 20.05.26 # but when uploading files don't forget to check the the checkbox. 20.05.48 # it's labelled "Check to Upload and Attach a File: " 20.07.52 # Thanks. By the way, apps/win32.mak includes lang.o twive in the link list. 20.08.20 # probably you ran some makefile in the apps dir. 20.08.26 # Doesn't make sense to make a diff for just one line. 20.09.19 # I am working on integrating a queue feature with the current build. 20.10.09 # Had it already working with v1.3. 20.10.19 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (user@68.36.176.159) 20.10.36 # Django: check if you have files language.h /language.c in your apps dir. 20.10.46 # They musn't be located there. 20.11.16 # Delete them and rerun configure from your build dir and the duplicate lang.o files should be gone. 20.11.27 # STOP 20.11.32 # I mistyped 20.11.49 # I mean lang.h, lang.c mustn't be in apps 20.12.45 # Please take a look at apps/win32.mak. On line 84 there is 'OBJS' defined. It references lang.o and then all .o so you get lang.o twice. 20.13.20 # ... and the linker complains about multiple def. 20.14.12 # Well, why is lang.c then created in apps? 20.14.28 # ... and where should they be? 20.16.01 # Usually you make your build dir parallel to apps and run tools/configure in it. That makes a new makefile. And that is the makefile you should use. 20.17.02 # But I must admit that it requires linux or cygwin. 20.17.06 # Can't do that. Configure is a shell script. 20.17.29 # I haven't compiled without cygwin yet. 20.17.36 # Can't help on that topic 20.17.56 # I don't have the foggiest what cygwin is. 20.18.19 # cygwin is something like unix for windows 20.18.20 # I just remove the extra reference do lang.o and the problem is gone. 20.18.37 # If it works -> no problem :) 20.19.33 # Did you do the peak meter ? 20.19.38 # yes 20.19.47 # Cute! 20.19.57 # It lacks of dBfs scale 20.20.06 # And I'm to stupid for that. 20.20.11 # With the 5x7 font I get both the status line and the peak meter. 20.20.44 # With the default font and default wps you can have the peak meter by disabling the status bar :) 20.21.21 # I think the progress bar should be one pixel narrower, that is descend one picel less. Almost touches the peak meter. 20.21.46 # But I WANT the status bar. 20.22.03 # Me too. 20.22.36 # Both, the progress bar and the peak meter have the height of the current font. 20.23.12 # But I have the berzerk mode! 20.23.16 # Have you tried to make the bar height one pixel less? 20.23.30 # No 20.23.31 # Berzerk mode?? 20.24.08 # It reads out ~20 values between updates -> higher precision -> detects peaks / clips _much_ better. 20.24.59 # I see. Have to go now. Today is my birthday and I better go upstairs to see if somebody wants to congratulate :-) 20.25.12 Nick Django is now known as Django|away (~Django@pD953C7B3.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.26.26 # (g) 20.28.26 Join Exion_ [0] (jon@airplane1.suphammer.net) 20.30.44 Quit langhaarrocker (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20.30.44 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 20.30.44 Quit Exion (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20.30.44 Quit edx|essen (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20.30.44 Quit PsycoXul (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20.30.44 Quit _seb_ (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 20.31.18 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B240b.pppool.de) 20.33.33 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-51.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 20.38.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.41.32 # what is that bitswap good for? 20.47.15 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 20.47.15 NJoin edx|essen [0] (~edx@217.184.180.134) 20.58.33 Part langhaarrocker 21.01.18 Join _seb_ [0] (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.01.46 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.07.52 Nick edx|essen is now known as edx|satt (~edx@217.184.180.134) 21.07.54 Nick edx|satt is now known as edx (~edx@217.184.180.134) 21.13.54 Quit edx ("brb") 21.14.50 Join edx [0] (~edx@hmbg-d9b8b486.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.22.28 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 21.24.20 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 21.55.37 Quit edx (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 21.55.37 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 21.55.37 Quit seb-away (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 22.02.53 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 22.02.53 NJoin edx [0] (~edx@hmbg-d9b8b486.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.02.53 Mode "#rockbox +n " by calvino.freenode.net 22.12.01 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 22.12.46 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 22.35.45 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020826]") 22.38.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.12.06 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@213.7.72.118) 23.15.23 # are there any plans to correct the id3->elapsed time info when the pitch is changed? 23.30.34 # langhaarrocker: no 23.31.34 # So I must do that myself :) 23.31.57 # do you have an idea that will work? 23.32.25 # I have no idea at all. Don't even know how the elapsed time is calculated right now. 23.33.27 # it's simply using the actual elapsed time since playing started 23.34.03 # Hrgh. Then I must keep track of the last pitch change... 23.34.42 # it gets rather messy 23.35.31 # Is that the reason why nobody dared to touch that thing yet? 23.36.21 # yup 23.38.41 # Another real question: I want to find the nearest mp3 frame to a point in time. I thought about scanning mp3buf. But then I read something called bitswap. Is the data in mp3buf scrabled in some way? 23.41.38 Nick tot|away is now known as TotMacher (tot@p5084AE29.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.41.51 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@67.34.32.240) 23.50.51 Quit Django|away ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 23.53.27 # langhaarrocker: yep, it's bitswapped. the reason is that the sh-1 and the MAS are not really compatible. the mas expect LSB first serial data while the sh-1 sends MSB (or vice versa). so we need to swap every single mp3 data byte... 23.55.07 # Thx 23.55.38 # this is one of those Fun Things You Didn't Want To Know About Archos :) 23.56.20 # But that shouldn't concern my problem: I can adjust my search pattern. 23.56.38 # Hm. not really since its a bit stream and not a byte stream. :( 23.57.01 # not really. frames are always byte aligned. 23.57.11 # good news :)