--- Log for 30.09.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 0 days ago 00.01.18 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 00.02.26 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 00.03.07 # cu somewhen else 00.03.22 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 00.21.50 Quit edx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.27.06 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 00.27.49 Quit rwood (Client Quit) 00.38.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.02.10 # Zagor you still around? 01.02.17 # yup 01.03.43 Quit TotMacher () 01.09.31 # k.. can you do me a favor.. 01.09.42 # sure 01.09.43 # send me a better copy of the Haxx logo then is on the website 01.10.13 # ty 01.10.16 # rhak@ramapo.edu 01.23.10 # i don't have it, bagder or linus does I think. 01.23.29 # i'm off to bed. bye! 01.23.30 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 01.50.40 Join seb-away [0] (user@68.36.176.159) 01.51.11 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sick (user@68.36.176.159) 01.52.15 Quit datazone (Remote closed the connection) 02.00.20 Join datazone [0] ([9xYjEpx3v@207.136.36.203) 02.06.45 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 02.12.56 Quit datazone (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.27 Join datazone [0] ([qpMbQUi6U@207.136.36.203) 02.38.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.49 Quit datazone (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.09.02 Join datazone [0] ([GVOtEb2bl@207.136.36.203) 03.16.46 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.06.01 Join Nathantwist [0] (Twist@24.218.228.149) 04.10.32 Quit Nathantwist ("[x]chat") 04.38.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.38.49 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 07.05.04 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.47.36 Join rwood [0] (~rdwrockbo@ca-santaanahub-cuda3-c9b-117.anhmca.adelphia.net) 07.49.09 # LinusN: do you know if any routines will read the disk into a buffer starting on an odd address? 07.49.43 # yes, the mp3 data 07.50.14 # can searcho to an odd byte, and also load to odd addresses 07.50.43 # to prevent gaps between tracks 07.50.53 # that is really slow 2.28us vs 1.44us for even word addresses - using C routines 07.52.18 # i have the even routine down to 1.08us 25% time reduction - i think that translates to about .25 seconds per mp3 buffer assuming around 1.5 Mb per reload 07.53.34 # using inline asm - if i list my temp registers in the clobbered register section, i don't have to save/restore? 07.54.51 # LinusN: can you do me a favor and send me a copy of the Haxx logo? 07.54.54 # i can bet the odd down to about 1.5us per word - the swapping is a real hairball 07.55.31 # i think you should declare a temp variable and pass it as an argument, that way you let the compiler take care of the register allocation 07.56.28 # you can declare input register constraints "r+" to use the input register as temp storage 07.57.45 # no, the swapping isn't nice 07.59.32 # i'm still fuzzy on the constraints format, i'll work it out. the time savings isn't that great, but it will save power/batteries - do you think it is worth the effort? 07.59.57 # not sure 08.00.14 # C code is still easier to understand and maintain 08.00.51 # the even address is very straight forward 08.01.41 # the odd address is not pretty 08.02.06 # i agree. can we make it prettier? 08.04.28 # i'm working on it - i save the 1st byte then switch to word stores and switch back to byte for the last byte - the byte placement is completely wrong to make it efficient 08.05.22 # eh? 08.05.36 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.06.08 # high byte/low byte and which bytes want to end up next to each other for a word store 08.10.55 # i'll work it out, send it in, and let zagor decide if he likes it 08.14.18 # good 08.19.49 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.19.54 # yo Bagder! 08.19.58 # hey 08.20.51 # there isn't an example of r+ in the online docs that i have found, or in the rockbox code. if the format "r+" as a place holder then %x to reference it? 08.21.03 # is 08.22.15 # rwood: thread.c 08.22.38 # load_context() 08.23.17 # i use the register to save the regs, and then as a temp reg for the PR 08.28.07 # thanks, i think i see how to do it 08.38.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.42.55 Quit rwood () 08.48.27 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.48.37 # good morning all !!!!! 08.49.09 # morning 08.57.04 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08.57.04 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 08.57.31 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 08.57.31 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 09.02.11 # hehe 09.02.25 # i am trying to debug the remote control code 09.02.42 # any fun? ;-) 09.03.01 # to see why we have problems with cassette adapters and insertion/extraction of ear plugs 09.03.19 # people claim that the archos original fw handles it well 09.03.39 # well, maybe they just didn't try it... :-) 09.04.24 # okay.. bagder/linus 09.04.26 # i jiggled the ear plug connector while playing and the archos froze completely! :-) 09.04.31 # im running 2.4.18 09.04.38 # and installed a belkin usb2 card 09.04.44 # but my system isn't finding it on boot... 09.04.45 # oh, i run the latest daily build 09.04.46 # ideas? 09.04.47 # :-) 09.04.56 # lest kudzu isn't saying anything 09.05.22 # adi|home: have you applied the usb2 patch? 09.05.41 # usb2 patch? 09.05.52 # doh.. sorry.. typo 09.05.53 # yeah, 2.4.18 needs a patch you grok usb2 09.05.54 # 2.4.19 09.05.57 # ah 09.06.19 # how can i see if the card is actually being found? 09.06.25 # lspci 09.07.06 # are you using the belkin card? 09.07.10 # yes 09.07.15 # okay.. 09.07.21 # my old usb plug is showing up. 09.07.30 # namely the ones on the motherboard 09.07.42 # 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 11) 09.07.58 # and no other? 09.08.01 # 00:0c.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41) 09.08.04 # nope 09.08.59 # adi|home: how do you load the ehci-usb driver? 09.09.05 # module? 09.09.08 # nope 09.09.11 # its part of the kernel 09.09.12 # it should find it before it tries to use the module 09.09.17 # im too lazy to futz with modules 09.09.42 # I couldn't get my stuff to work properly without using modules 09.09.46 # unless i screwed the config up... 09.09.49 # me neither 09.09.49 # grr... okay... 09.10.01 # but lspci should still detect the card 09.10.11 # anyone feel like offering me a url to how to make use of modules or walk me through it? 09.10.25 # hmm... maybe a bad port? 09.10.45 # perhaps 09.11.59 # adi|home: making modules is just a matter of setting 'm' in the kernel config, then 'make modules' and 'make modules_install' 09.12.09 # got ya.. 09.12.24 # then, have the archos connected before you load the module 09.16.50 # which uhci am i to use? 09.17.10 # ehci-hcd 09.17.28 # then usb-storage 09.25.42 Quit Synthe` ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 09.27.33 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@216.190.43.251) 09.28.35 # what the deal with the id: LANG_HIDDEN... in english.lang ? 09.29.15 # no more string to translate ? 09.29.25 # i think those are obsolete strings 09.29.34 # eng: "" ? 09.30.01 # yes, if we remove it the id's change, and we don't want that 09.30.02 # what i do? i clear the new: " " too ? 09.30.13 # you don't translate it 09.30.59 # ok... 09.31.39 # the serial interface must be polled 09.32.02 # otherwise we get an Rx ERR interrupt every 10 bits 09.32.13 # that's every millisecond! 09.32.21 # ugha 09.32.33 # sorry, 10ms 09.32.47 # no, 1ms 09.32.54 # badness 09.33.32 # the downside is that we need a polling interrupt at the same frequency :-) 09.34.33 # we may need a different approcah for the remote control 09.34.59 # for instance, i don't think the remote can send faster than every 10ms 09.35.03 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.35.03 # * bobTHC have commit francais.lang 09.36.04 # so we can probably poll every 10ms and don't miss any characters 09.37.28 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 09.45.07 Quit mecraw1212 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.45.44 Join lksdjf [0] (~mecraw@67.41.113.155) 09.51.30 # * Bagder added a bunch of categories to the patch tracker 09.54.09 # should there be any priority between the remote control and the keypad? 09.54.50 # like in what case? 09.55.28 # when fiddling with the remote and the keypad at the same time 09.56.10 # and should we send BUTTON_RELEASE events for every remote button press? 09.56.27 # no idea 09.56.33 # i think we should 09.56.42 # for compatibility 09.57.02 # two events for every keypress 09.57.21 # but we don't do it today, so i should probably wait until post 1.4 for that 09.57.28 # yeah 09.58.01 # i'll just add the polling to the button handler 10.04.04 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.04.14 # hey Zagor 10.04.14 # that was a short sleep 10.08.27 # nah, almost 8 hours :-) 10.28.02 # the remote control code is becoming trickier and trickier... 10.28.31 Part LinusN 10.28.32 # LinusN: why? 10.29.39 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.29.46 # LinusN: why? 10.30.31 # the receiver gives framing errors everi ms when ordinary headphones are attached (grounded rx pin) 10.30.47 # oh. fun... 10.31.26 # indeed, an interrupt every millisecond 10.31.39 # i am changing now, t poll in the button driver 10.32.11 # the remote won't send faster that 1/HZ anyway 10.38.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.53.33 # ok, the remote control code is much more stable now 10.55.30 Join edx [0] (~edx@217.234.189.207) 10.55.51 # i urge all remote control owners to try the new code 11.10.19 # i'm thinking about the recording UI 11.10.36 # all those settings for sampling rate, quality, stereo/mono... 11.10.57 # should those be ordinary settings, or some fast-menus in the recording screen? 11.12.02 # both, probably. default settings in the menu and then possible to adjust in the recording screen. 11.15.52 # maybe we should pre-release the recording code without disk saving, just to get a head start on the UI? 11.16.24 # in the debug menu 11.16.28 # or something 11.31.29 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 11.35.35 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.50.24 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 11.51.11 # was the serial remote code causing some people problems? 11.55.17 # yes, it was sending bogus key events 12.05.14 Quit edx () 12.09.01 # mmnn bugger...never had a problem myself. Guess I should have make it more robust... 12.15.14 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.15.35 # Anyone know how may Archos devices there are out there? 12.16.00 # many 12.16.13 Quit pyvasene ("[x]chat") 12.36.04 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) 12.38.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.48.58 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@pD9520951.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.09.26 # notch: I don't think that info is public 13.32.09 # Bagder: I'll get my recorder tomorrow afternoon 13.32.23 # wooo 13.33.45 # so, you setup your crosscompiler yet? B) 13.33.47 # I'm really looking forward to that. I have a 12 GB DLT backup that I could restore directly to the Recorder... 13.33.58 # :-) 13.34.02 # you have usb2? 13.34.26 # no, I haven't setup my compiler. Haven't had thet time. Just bought a house in Norrtälje... 13.34.38 # ah 13.34.48 # I don't know if I have USB2 13.35.27 # Is there a easy way to know if it is USB or USB2 in the computer? 13.36.01 # I don't know 13.36.30 # Load the ehci-hcd module, it'll tell you in dmesg if it finds the device... 13.37.30 # Hes: okay, thanks 13.37.59 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.41.06 Part LinusN 13.41.30 # Hes: I don't see any text about USB2 but usb-uhci says "High bandwidth mode enabled" 13.42.04 # Hes, Bagder: This is my office computer, has to check the machine at home too 13.43.22 # what usb controller is it? 13.43.33 # as shown by 'lspci' 13.45.48 # Bagder: The office machine has a "VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10)" controller 13.46.01 # 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 08) 13.46.09 # that's my 1.1 one 13.46.27 # the 2.0 is almost exclusively NEC ones 13.46.45 # Bagder: So I have to hope that my machine at home has USB2 then... 13.46.51 # yeah 13.47.04 # a separate usb2 card is cheap enough otherwise 13.47.28 # Bagder: Okay, and if I remember correctly I have a VIA motherboard at home too :-( 13.47.33 # but usb2 isn't in the linux kernel before 2.4.19 13.48.43 # Bagder: Okay. I'm still running 2.2.xx. I haven't done much about my machines lately. Most time spent on playing with OpenBSD... 13.49.14 # caveman! ;-) 13.49.19 # :;-) 13.50.20 # And OpenBSD don't have support for the latest hardware... But rock solid, which is good for a caveman :-) 14.19.35 # Bagder: any progress on the uisimulator since friday or is it just for me to jump in? 14.20.30 # I haven't touched anything there 14.20.37 # go go go :-) 14.21.36 # ok 14.39.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.48.51 Join flattwin [0] (~flattwin@APlessis-Bouchard-101-1-4-104.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.50.39 Quit flattwin (Client Quit) 15.19.44 Join _Exion [0] (jon@airplane1.suphammer.net) 15.19.44 Quit Exion_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.28.45 Part Bagder 15.34.14 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@pD9520951.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.58.35 Nick seb-sick is now known as _seb_ (user@68.36.176.159) 16.12.41 Join calpefrosch [0] (~calpefros@62.52.174.30) 16.12.59 # hello 16.13.32 # hi 16.14.13 # i have a problem building the simulator under linux, can u help me ? 16.15.17 # ouch.. I never use the sim sorry.. 16.15.59 # maybe anybody else, i get a lot if warnings and one error in the lang.c - file, do you know ? 16.16.16 # calpefrosch: how did you try building? 16.16.50 # like in the docs/uisimulator described 16.17.00 # with make 16.18.28 # in a separate target dir? 16.19.13 # yes 16.20.10 # and what errors do you get? 16.20.13 # ok, I tried language "Deutsch", with english I get another error 16.20.28 # error : ../../tools/convbdf: Command not found 16.20.47 # you need to run make in the tools dir first 16.21.23 # ok, I see. It is seperated.. 16.22.16 # know it is working. many tnx 16.22.22 # ok, good 16.22.40 # but, should i try to build the german version ? 16.22.46 # maybe there is a problem ? 16.22.48 # you can if you want 16.22.53 # it should work 16.23.33 # no, is doesn't. here the error: 16.24.14 # "/usr/src/cvs/build-dir/lang.c:4: warning: array `language_strings' assumed to have one element 16.24.14 # make[1]: *** [/usr/src/cvs/build-dir/lang.o] Error 1 16.24.14 # make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/cvs/uisimulator/x11' 16.24.14 DBUG Enqueued KICK calpefrosch 16.24.14 # make: *** [sim] Error 2 16.25.50 # ah, right. the string '[Song Nr.]' has no closing quote 16.25.57 # error in the deutsch.lang file 16.26.12 # ok, du you fix it 16.26.16 # yup 16.26.22 # tnx 16.26.31 # bye 16.27.02 Part calpefrosch 16.29.12 # PsycoXu 16.29.40 # sorry (crazy keyboard)... 16.39.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.43.24 Join `frog [0] (~boo@modem-260.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) 16.59.41 # Zagor: whats the relation between font definition and pattern definition for player. Seems to be rotated? 16.59.44 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B496a.pppool.de) 17.00.44 # <`frog> just wondering if I can get some help with installation? 17.00.54 # of what? 17.01.06 # matsl: yes, patterns are row-by-row. fonts are column-by-column. i think. 17.01.20 # do we have any built in conversion function? 17.01.42 # <`frog> I've got a jb6000 and put archos.mod in the root (deleting the original) but it just boots up to the ROM firmware- why? 17.01.59 # matsl: no. we don't share data for players and recorders 17.02.12 # `frog: good question 17.02.17 # It first boots the rom firmware and then it should load rockbox 17.02.35 # Zagor: in th uisimulator we do ;-) 17.02.46 # matsl: ah, right 17.03.01 # ok. I'll roll my own. 17.04.06 # 'frog: If not you 17.04.06 # 1) misspelled the archos.mod 17.04.06 # 2) put it somewhere wrong 17.04.06 DBUG Enqueued KICK langhaarrocker 17.04.06 # 3) have a strangly broken device 17.04.32 # <`frog> just have it returned from archos... 17.04.38 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 39 minutes and 52 seconds at the last flood 17.04.38 # * `frog rechecks spelling... 17.05.18 # <`frog> spelling is fine 17.05.20 # <`frog> :| 17.05.38 # and it is in the root of the drive? 17.06.00 # <`frog> its in f:\ 17.06.26 # Then I have no idea 17.07.21 # <`frog> hmmm 17.08.22 # You're sure you don't accidently have a recorder? :) 17.09.11 # <`frog> lol 17.09.16 # <`frog> I wish 17.10.31 # What does the jukebox do when it's feed with a broken rockbox file? 17.12.25 Join frog [0] (~boo@modem-1502.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) 17.13.02 # will it help if it try reformatting the drive? 17.13.15 # I doubt. 17.13.32 # Have you tried different original archos firmware files? 17.14.38 # I have previously updated the firmware 17.15.03 # shall I try doing that again 17.15.10 # If that worked there's no reason why rockbox doesn't 17.15.33 # hmm 17.15.53 # I'll try updating it with the archos firmware to see if that works now 17.19.31 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.19.58 # I must go now 17.20.12 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 17.25.37 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 17.28.07 # time to go home, CU 17.28.24 Part mem_ ("leave") 17.30.31 Quit `frog (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.31.32 # anybody about? 17.36.34 Quit notch () 17.38.59 Quit frog () 18.05.27 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B243c.pppool.de) 18.14.56 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 18.23.30 Quit lksdjf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.28.08 Nick edx is now known as edx|away (~edx@pD9EABDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.14 Nick edx|away is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EABDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.39.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.55.04 Nick tot|away is now known as TotMacher (tot@pD9520951.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.56.54 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@209.19.18.82) 18.57.04 # hello 18.57.32 # the page up/down patch is the best thing to happen to the jukebox since it came out! 19.20.44 Nick edx is now known as edx|eats (~edx@pD9EABDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.36.58 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@pD9520951.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.52.06 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 19.56.40 Quit elinenbe () 20.13.47 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@209.19.18.82) 20.25.28 # hey, maybe someone here can help me. Where is the bootlog stored in linux? 20.25.42 # /var/log/dmesg 20.26.09 # Bagder: thanks. 20.26.21 # Bagder: I like reading them while I am on the toilet 20.26.29 # hahaha 20.26.54 # I print them out in 4pt text too. I hate wasting paper, but it kills my eyes. 20.39.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.39.20 # Zagor and Bagder disagree yet again... whoo hoo! 20.39.30 # sybling rivalry 20.39.35 # yeah 20.40.14 # commit the txt viewer patch :) 20.40.16 # that is fun! 20.40.39 # I want to check the code first 20.41.02 # you tried it on target? 20.44.10 # I haven't -- my cygwin died a quick death. I have to reconfigure everything first 20.44.15 # I'll get to it later today. 20.44.18 # ouch 20.44.20 # work is pretty busy 20.44.59 # well, if you get around to committing it, then give a holler. I would love to try it out. 20.45.10 # I'll let you know 20.45.24 # I do like the pg up/down patch -- very nice for those directories with 1000+ files ;) 20.46.22 # I haven't tried that one yet ;-) 20.52.09 # * Bagder builds with the text viewer 21.03.17 # looks good 21.03.25 # sounds exciting. 21.03.34 # I'm gonna commit this 21.03.51 # great. I'll download the latest build in 20 min or so... 21.04.04 # can you DCC? 21.04.25 # no 21.04.47 # could you email the build to elinenbe at umich.edu? 21.05.09 # that would be ad Bill & Ted say "most excellent dude!" 21.05.33 # http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/ 21.06.01 # freshly built 21.06.19 # great! 21.08.51 # it is great. 21.09.00 # its really neat 21.09.07 # I'd like a word-wrap option though 21.09.27 # could use pg up/down/left/right 21.09.40 # needs an icon! 21.09.46 # ah, right 21.11.32 # almost done resizing my partitions! 21.13.33 # the text viewer is exceptionally cool with large or small fonts. 21.16.24 Join frog [0] (~boo@modem-4020.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk) 21.18.40 # is there a way to shuffle between directories? 21.18.54 # only with playlists so far 21.19.05 # ok thanks 21.22.16 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Acd96.pppool.de) 21.33.28 Quit frog (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.36.50 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.08 Part Bagder 22.02.33 Join regin [0] (~boo@modem-4030.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) 22.02.57 # how does one install fonts- I've put them in a folder but they don't come up on the screen of my jb6k 22.03.21 # try to "play" them with your browser 22.03.40 # when I goto the folder - its empty 22.04.01 Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.04.01 # Hit F2 and select not to filter the dir 22.04.10 # regin: only recorders support fonts 22.04.19 # aha ok thanks 22.04.34 # * regin was looking forward to the games aswell ;) 22.04.47 # only for recorders :( 22.04.58 # yup 22.05.09 # might have to upgrade sometime 22.05.12 # just gotta find the cash 22.06.02 # Zagor: btw - these fonts are another feature that are needed as much as user assignable keys :) 22.06.27 # langhaarrocker: yup. but they're a lot easier to implement, so someone did 22.07.30 # seems I have to be the someone to break the ground for key assignment. But that's what I expected. 22.09.31 Quit regin () 22.10.41 # I thought about the elapsed time problem with changed pitch and read something in the MAS docu about a frame counter. But it seems that it resets itself frequently. The docu says that this happens when it receives sick data. Can that be the reason? 22.11.18 # I don't believe all my mp3s contain so much rubbish 22.11.29 # the frame counter is not very useful anyway since frames can be of different length 22.13.46 Join quique [0] (~quique@196.200.dyn-adsl.customer.ch.easynet.net) 22.13.56 # I know. But the mas also provides some header info of the frame. Thus the overkill idea was wether we can catch all those infos and sum it up. Yes I know it's not a good idea, but it is one. :( 22.14.50 # Especially lacking of connected SYNC pins. 22.14.54 # Hello everyone, just dropped by here to ask a possibly stupid question (not in the faq yet) 22.15.02 # quique: shoot 22.15.15 # * langhaarrocker ducking again 22.15.25 # I want to compile rockbox with the spanish.lng messages 22.15.57 # Install cygwin, the sh1 compiler, run configure -> voila 22.16.05 # what is what I am supposed to do ? i saw that there is not build time setting 22.16.12 # I do have sh1 cross compiler working ok 22.16.21 # I have been compiling rockbox since quite a while now 22.16.23 # quique: it's simpler to just download espanol.lng and copy it to /.rockbox/default.lng 22.16.26 # under linux 22.16.34 # thanks zagor 22.17.17 # when you mean /rockbox/default.lng you mean the root of the rockbox distribution , so cd firmware/.. , right ? 22.17.32 # or edit the generated makefile and replace the LANGUAGE=english with your preferred lang 22.17.50 # so there is a compile time setting, thanks guys 22.18.15 # quique: you are using tools/configure, right? 22.19.32 # wow, no I just did :) 22.19.32 # this is new to me 22.19.48 # I have been using the same old Makefile for a while now , haha 22.19.53 # boo :-) 22.20.11 # I couldn't live without tools/configure any more. 22.22.52 # tools/configure should be able to add /usr/local/sh1/bin to my PATH 22.24.22 # I put 22.24.23 # export PATH="${PATH}:/home/perterm/sh1/bin" 22.24.23 # into my .bashrc That helped 22.24.25 # quique: no it can't. a child process cannot change the environment for its parent 22.24.56 # yep yep, but the CC can be defined with a full path in the Makefile 22.25.57 # yeah, it could 22.26.28 # is /usr/local the normal place to install sh1 to? 22.26.30 # do you want detailled specs ? 22.26.50 # langhaarrocker: yes 22.26.57 # quique: ? 22.27.31 # I mean functional specs , how configure should find the correct path for sh-gcc 22.27.36 # just joking 22.28.58 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@209.19.18.82) 22.29.32 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/TODO can be updated now. 22.29.43 # configure failed to create lang.c and lang.h , I had to run genlan manually 22.29.58 # a few of the things there have been completed 22.30.01 # just checking why 22.37.39 # oh, configure didnt run genlan, ok 22.37.43 # all: firmware apps lang 22.37.43 # langhaarrocker: lang.c lang.h 22.37.43 # tools/genlang tools/language/$(LANGUAGE).lng 22.38.06 # quique: configure is not supposed to run that. apps/Makefile does it 22.38.13 # oh my god 22.38.40 # apps/Makefile 22.38.53 # still has LANGUAGE=english 22.39.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.39.28 # the wind today feels like 1.4 is on the way 22.39.30 # does configure change apps/Makefile? 22.40.05 # quique: that is overridden by your build/Makefile 22.40.18 # langhaarrocker: no, but it passes parameters to it 22.41.33 # I think 1.4 will blow most people away. 22.41.36 # the messages are compiled in the archos.mod right ? so I am not supposed to add any additional file to my jukebox besides archos.mod, right ? 22.41.45 # there should be a feature lock today. 22.41.49 # only bug fixes. 22.42.10 # quique: the ones you compile-in are compiled in. you can load other languages runtime. 22.42.15 # langhaarrocker: I thought the old peak meter looked much better then the current one. 22.42.41 # elinenbe: we pretty much have that. but the text viewer was so simple (and wanted) that we slipped it in anyway 22.42.49 # langhaarrocker: maybe it was my font. 22.43.10 # The font only changes the height of the meter. 22.43.20 # Zagor: implenet page up/down/left/right for the text viewer and that would make the box really rock 22.44.00 # langhaarrocker: it looks worse with smalltalkmonofont 22.44.09 # that font is too small for it. 22.44.19 # it looks great with the current font however. 22.44.25 # s/current/default 22.44.34 # elinenbe: right, pgup/pgdn should be in it 22.45.36 # awsome ! rockbox speaks spanish ! 22.45.47 # Zagor: I think stuff like quickmenus should be fixed to default font. 22.46.08 # elinenbe: yes, i agree. 22.47.37 # everything needs to be check with largest max font and smallest avaible font too. 22.48.16 # I am writing my own superblocks to my drive. 22.48.31 # In large fonts? 22.49.08 # langhaarrocker: on my linux box. 22.49.25 # What do you store there? 22.52.47 # langhaarrocker: I do all my finite element analysis there. 22.52.51 # LS-DYNA 22.53.05 Nick edx|eats is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EABDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.53.32 # Ok, I won't even ask. 22.55.19 # Text browser is cool. When will it understand html? :) 22.55.26 # http://www.lstc.com/pages/products/ls-dyna/index.html 22.58.03 # the font for the Player modern LCD is the 6x9 and that doesnt contain asc > 127 , is that correct ? 22.58.54 # quique: it contains >127, but they are not iso8859-1 22.59.51 # I see. is 6x10 8859-1 ? 23.00.14 # yes it is. 23.00.19 # gotta sleep. cu 23.00.36 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23.11.15 Join minute [0] (wunder@dclient217-162-236-15.hispeed.ch) 23.11.19 # hello 23.11.26 # can anybody help a newbie? 23.12.12 Join Django [0] (~Django@pD9E58AAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.12.21 # helo django 23.12.29 # hi minute 23.12.41 # can you help me on my new archos? 23.12.55 # maybe, try :-) 23.13.05 # what model? 23.13.05 # im a mac user 23.13.22 # Ah, what is a mac? 23.13.24 # it the recorder 20 23.13.44 # Is this a mac question or an archos question? 23.13.53 # both :) 23.13.59 # Go ahead 23.14.13 # well, its delievered with a usb 2.0 cable 23.14.23 # can i plug that in just like that? 23.14.35 # cuz my imac just has a usb 1.0 device 23.14.44 # minute: the cables are the same 23.15.02 # yes, and usb 2.0 is backward compatible. 23.15.06 # or dodo i need a device or something? 23.15.08 # yup 23.15.17 # like what? 23.15.17 # minute: just plug it in 23.15.21 # i did 23.15.38 # on the package it says i need usb manager 1.2 23.15.59 # but thats included in mac os 9,1 23.16.12 # it drives me crazy 23.16.42 # minute: so you're saying it doesn't work? 23.16.48 # yes indeed 23.17.00 # theres no mounting up 23.17.07 # minute: sorry, never seen an imac. i'm out. 23.17.16 # it just shows the usb sign on the archos 23.17.41 # django, dont be so disrespective ;) 23.17.52 # we mac-users are humans too 23.18.12 # this is germany. I don't know anybody who has a mac. 23.18.12 # which macos do you have? 23.18.35 # germany? here is switzerland 23.18.37 # did I say something wrong? 23.18.42 # iv got 9.1 23.19.23 # think i need to update to 9.2? 23.20.06 # i don't know. i've never used a mac either :-) 23.20.15 # Ha! 23.20.34 # minute: seems you are on your own. 23.20.55 # :( 23.21.05 # I've heard there are many Cadillacs in Switzerland? True? 23.21.11 # minute: join the archosjukebox6000 group on yahoo.com. there has to be more mac users there. 23.21.23 # my boss has a cadillac 23.21.35 # i joined that group 23.22.01 # theres also a good forum just for mac users, but no help 23.22.13 # i think i have to throw my archos away 23.22.25 # Strange. Do you have other usb devices? 23.22.36 # yes 23.22.41 # a cd burner 23.22.48 # and a digicam 23.23.02 # Ah well, what about keep the archos and throwing the ma.... 23.23.04 # there are many people who use archos on mac 23.23.10 # i know 23.23.18 # but maybe its not my day today 23.23.29 # my football teams are also losing 23.23.36 # :-) 23.23.43 # maybe i should call it a day 23.23.49 # You have a football team of your own? :-) 23.23.57 # but on the other hand i cant sleep without solving this shit 23.24.08 # no, the teams i support :) 23.24.41 # Maybe you can find a PC, just to check that the archos is working ok. 23.24.44 # well, forget my archos problems, lets talk something else 23.25.04 # where to get mp3s 23.25.08 # I just came here looking for linus. 23.25.38 # linus? 23.25.55 # Django: why linus? 23.26.13 # arghh..im pissed 23.26.28 # I sent some diffs to him re dynamic queue. 23.26.31 # my mac ruins my nerves 23.27.01 # Django: you should send them to the patch tracker instead 23.27.01 # He sent me a nice email and I wanted to know if he has any suggestions. 23.27.15 # django, what did u pay for your archos in germany? 23.27.58 # Yes, please forgive me. Got my archos, found rockbox, got the compiler, got cvs and sent a diff. all in one week. 23.28.10 # eur 290 23.28.16 # Django: nice going :-) 23.28.20 # 290? the recorder? 23.28.27 # recorder 10 23.28.30 # aha 23.28.42 # i paid for the rec 20 400 euro 23.28.59 # zagor: I'm an old hacker :-) yesterday I got 48 years old. 23.29.09 # Got my first computer in 1978. 23.29.18 # Django: :) 23.29.20 # well i got my first computer in 1982 23.29.28 # it was a c64 23.29.47 # I still have it. started with 512 bytes of ram. 23.30.02 # :) 23.30.06 # I skipped that. started with an 8080 then z80. 23.30.13 # thats incredible, isnt it? 23.30.24 # 512 bytes 23.30.34 # even a word doc has more these days 23.30.46 # minute: look around on www.ebay.de , search for archos. 23.31.01 # what for? i already got one 23.31.09 # or shall i sell mine? :) 23.31.31 # zagor: do you have a feel for the cpu power of the archos? Is it like a z80 at 4 mhz ? :-) 23.31.32 # i made a desperate buy today 23.31.46 # minute: that was just for price comparison. 23.32.07 # nah, forget price comparisons, it would make me feel depressed 23.32.19 # minute: relax, in a few weeks the money is forgotten. 23.32.20 # im already pissed 23.32.32 # but django, are u happy with it? 23.32.41 # I LOVE it !! 23.32.45 # true? 23.32.52 # Was my birthday present. 23.32.57 # :) 23.33.05 # i have birthday in a month 23.33.22 # Yes. I have waited for a long time for such a device. 23.33.31 # the main thing i bought it for is to make hard disc recordings 23.33.44 # to put all my records on mp3 23.33.55 # i already have about 8000 mp3s 23.34.10 # their all on cds now 23.34.25 # what myfreinds? 23.34.26 # zagor: rockbox just crashed while playing. 23.34.49 # django, you know a good trading place for mp3? 23.35.04 # get a copy of winmx 23.35.05 # Django: what symptoms? 23.35.18 # winmix? not for mac 23.35.25 # I=9:CPUAdrEr 23.35.29 # I=9:CPUAdrEr 23.35.34 # bad 23.35.34 # I09:CPUAdrEr 23.35.37 # nah, i think those p2p programs are over 23.36.00 # i think you have to join special interest groups 23.36.10 # where you can swap one on one 23.36.14 # this message is about as useful as Dr.Whatson :-) 23.36.27 Quit quique ("this message is about as useful as Dr.Whatson :-)") 23.36.28 # watson without h 23.36.29 # winmx is not p2p 23.36.41 # i dont know winmx 23.36.49 # im a macer, remember :) 23.36.57 # Fortunately the Dr. is not listening 23.37.00 # we just have limewire left 23.37.05 # Django: :-) 23.37.09 # Uh, sorry. 23.37.28 # what music youre into django? 23.37.33 # krautrock? ;) 23.38.00 # I think there are about 30 million PCs sold per year. No other platform can beat that. 23.38.16 # its not the quantity, django 23.38.23 # its a way of thinking 23.38.31 # thats why im into mac 23.38.40 # were different 23.38.50 # I'm almost 50, so its rock 'n roll. 60ties. etc. 23.38.56 # definitely? 23.38.58 # aha, you like beat? 23.39.10 # it depends 23.39.17 # you know the zombies? 23.39.31 # no. what kinda music is that? 23.39.31 # their one of my favorite beat bands 23.39.51 # well its straight beat, but very pop 23.39.51 # one moment. I'll check it out. 23.40.04 # their biggest hit was "time of the season" 23.40.17 # or "she's not there" 23.40.20 # british group? 23.40.24 # yes of course 23.40.42 # they were underestimated at their time 23.40.52 # but made some faboulus albums 23.41.14 # for me they are as important as the beatles and the kinks 23.41.25 # ok, download has started. 23.41.31 # where? 23.41.34 # :( 23.41.44 # i want audiogalaxy back! 23.41.52 # winmx 23.41.55 # which song are u downloading? 23.42.02 # t.o.seasons 23.42.07 # okay :) 23.42.08 # AG was good 23.42.17 # well lemme tell you there...*sings* 23.42.29 # AG was heaven 23.42.41 # fucking IAAR 23.42.52 # sorry, cancelled that. Not my taste. 23.42.58 # really? 23.42.59 # why? 23.43.09 # Try "Tiger" by Fabian :-) 23.43.17 # whats that? 23.43.21 # schlager? 23.43.31 # Roc'n Roll 23.43.42 # german? 23.43.57 # Or try Eagles - Take it easy 23.44.05 # Nice for driving 23.44.06 # okay i know that one 23.44.28 # steve miller band 23.44.31 # fly like an eagle 23.44.42 # The Eagles are still on tour in SoCal this year! 23.44.49 # where u from in germany django? 23.45.15 # well they eagles could call themselves zombies now :) 23.45.20 # Paderborn 23.45.31 # paderborn? thats in the north? 23.45.51 # i used to live in dusseldorf 23.46.10 # It is about 100km east of Dortmund 23.46.26 # realy? 23.46.37 # its in the east? 23.46.48 # Don't trust me? Go to www.mapquest.com 23.46.54 # i believe you 23.47.06 # youre the german 23.47.26 # By the way: wanna see my Cadillac? 23.47.31 # no :) 23.47.36 # im not into cars 23.47.53 # i dont have a car myself 23.48.03 # just my archos and my mac 23.48.13 # and some records 23.48.31 # We have five jukeboxes here. 23.48.46 # oh cool 23.48.50 # I mean REAL jukeboxes. Seeburg, Rock-O-La and AMI. 23.49.02 # built 1957 to 1960 23.49.03 # but it isnt good for the 45s 23.49.10 # it wears them out too much 23.49.28 # i wouldnt do that to my 45s 23.49.33 # I don't think so. Tracking on the Seeburg is about 5 grams. 23.49.53 # my friend told me who has a wurlitzer at home 23.49.55 # I have about 600 45's 23.50.04 # i only got about 100 23.50.06 # most of them from flea markets 23.50.11 # mostly soul music 23.50.18 # What's your age? 23.50.21 # 32 23.50.37 # and im a soulboy 23.50.38 # So it makes a difference 23.50.44 # well, a bit 23.51.06 # you can check out my mp3s at www.hoenicke.ch if you would like to 23.51.14 # It's almost midnight. have to go now. 23.51.20 # me too 23.51.26 # start a new job tomorrow 23.51.37 # it was nice talking to you 23.51.52 # mach dem joshka keine schande 23.52.00 # :) 23.52.17 # ok, see u later , 23.52.22 # bye 23.52.36 Quit Django ("Client exited") 23.52.36 Quit minute ()