--- Log for 03.10.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 3 days ago 00.04.04 # Zagor: I tend to shock my unit whenever I take it for a walk, so I'm not fussed :) 00.09.35 # Zagor: Which version of rockbox has the best HD error recovery? I'll give it a walk and see if it does recover 00.09.54 # Miran: try the latest daily build 00.10.12 # mine only has problems when i drop it 00.10.25 # and even then it's not till a minute or 2 later 00.10.30 # make sure you enable keylock so you don't get accidental button events... 00.10.34 Join breaker [0] (~mail@isdn216-87.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 00.10.57 # PsycoXul: you only notice read errors after a while, since they can occur late in the buffer 00.10.58 # rockbox has a keylock? 00.11.08 # which command is that? 00.11.10 # yes. F1+DOWN or MENU+DOWN 00.11.15 # thank you :D 00.11.18 # heh 00.12.36 # Zagor: You want me to see if it recovers from HD errors or just see if it skips 00.14.05 # hi! so now my IRC works (I'm the new rockbox develover that linus gave cvs write access yesterday. Hi everyone!) 00.15.35 # hi 00.15.52 # Miran: that should be the same thing :-) 00.15.54 # In the last hour I changed lcd-recorder.c so that is scrolls in both directions if the string is short. Do you find it useful? 00.16.10 # breaker: you're uwe? 00.16.19 # yes. 00.16.33 # breaker: submit it as a patch. i'm trying to stabilise for 1.4 00.16.50 # Zagor: Ahh, but I can make the rockbox skip, but it might recover and continue to play, or it might just die completely :) 00.16.58 # Ok, should I send it to the patch tracker, mailinglist or private mail? 00.17.08 # breaker: patch tracker 00.17.32 # Miran: we retry for 5 seconds on read errors, so if everything works you should have to work hard to make it skip 00.18.18 # Zagor: ok, I'll see if it works :), be back in a few minutes 00.18.25 Quit Miran ("Its not that you do not see, it is mearly that your eyes do not perceive") 00.20.04 # One thing is not nice by now: When scrolling the complete title (like %d1/%fm in default.wps), there are spaces at the end and so it scrolls too much. 00.20.43 Join werty1st [0] (we@stgt-d9b91397.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.20.46 # hello 00.20.59 # the spaces are added as separator, so it's visible when the scroll wraps 00.21.04 # werty1st: hi 00.21.05 # Wouldn't it be better to add the space (when scrolling in the round) in the scroll thread instead of adding space characters to the string? 00.21.29 # breaker: what's the difference? the string is in the scroll thread. 00.22.24 # can u tell me how to deactivate the repeat mode 00.22.56 # In dir browser strings there seem not to be spaces at the end, in my %d1/%fm wps line there are. (At least they are visible only there.) 00.23.00 # the jukebox will never turn off if it doesn´t stop playing at the end of a folder 00.23.14 # breaker: dir browser has them too 00.23.48 # werty1st: repeat mode is always on, we'll add a setting for that in next version 00.24.27 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD9E12F52.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.24.43 # hmm, I see now. I had the scrollbar on (left in the dir browser) and it exactly fitted (the string ended at the right side of the display). :-) 00.24.51 # breaker: hehe 00.24.59 # like normal play/repeat 1/repeat all 00.25.18 # werty1st: yes. in 1.4, if all goes to plan 00.25.38 # i think repeat 1 should just be repeat turned on w/ a 1-track playlist, personally... heh 00.26.04 # So then I have to consider where the text starts and not only the width.. 00.26.06 # Hello everyone! 00.26.31 # i think the preselect for the next song which is included in the original archos firmware is also very usefull 00.27.05 # queueing is redundant with a decent playlist system 00.28.11 # Zagor: Hm, and how should I detect how many pixels wide the space characters at the end are? (Needed for detecting if I'm at the end of a line.) 00.28.27 # Zagor: I mean, it depends on the font.. 00.28.52 # breaker: What are you trying to do? 00.31.06 # breaker: space is just another character. lcd_getstringsize 00.31.33 # freshmaker: Scrolling the text line in both directions if the string is short. 00.31.47 # i'm not sure I understand the point, though :-) 00.32.01 # Zagor: ONE character (everywhere)? 00.32.45 # ? 00.32.54 # breaker: i.e. like the scrollnig on the original archos firmware, without a wrap around? 00.34.18 # freshmaker: yes. but only if the string is short (I'm testing with < 1.5 * LCD_WIDTH) 00.35.25 # breaker: hmm, that shouldn't be hard. do you have code already? i have an idea for the recorder (about 5 additinal lines) 00.36.34 # but is it really useful? i was always annoyed by the archos scroll. after all, we read from left to right so what's the gain in scrolling right-to-left? 00.38.10 # Zagor: I mean is there one space character at the end of every line that is scrolled? I need it to calculate if I have to change the direction when I'm at the end of a line. 00.38.26 # hmm, personally i don't like it, too. but let's go for the polls... :-) 00.38.53 # freshmaker: Yes, I've coded something here.. 00.39.01 # breaker: ah, no there are 3 spaces 00.40.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.40.23 # If I have a string that doesn't fit on the screen only by e.g. 2 characters I find it better if it only scrolls these two characters to left and right. If I have a long string I prefer a complete scrolling. Don't you think that it is useful? 00.40.40 Join Miran [0] (~dani@collcott.demon.co.uk) 00.41.03 # Zagor: It skips :) and it freezes the wps and the HD doesn't spin down afterwards 00.41.41 # i have a loud background noise on my jukebox does anybody have a similarly effect 00.41.43 # http://werty1st.ath.cx/temp/background%20noise%20archos%20software.mp3 00.41.49 # Miran: hmm, bad 00.42.13 # Werty1st: Archos firmware does have a nasty background noise 00.42.19 # werty1st: In the headphones / line out? 00.42.32 # if i use the rockbox firmware i noise is much more quietly 00.42.32 # http://werty1st.ath.cx/temp/background%20noise%20rockbox%20software.mp3 00.42.42 # yes 00.42.46 # @ breaker 00.42.46 # werty1st: how did you record that file? 00.42.47 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@68.36.176.159) 00.42.51 # harddisk noise 00.42.59 # is this with the mic? 00.43.13 # the noise is there even if i didn´t play a file 00.43.19 # Zagor: yes bad :( 00.43.34 # is the harddisk spun up? 00.43.38 # werty1st: how did you record that file? 00.43.46 # or is it quiet 00.44.18 # @ Zagor it is there all the time on every file and even if i didn´t play a file 00.44.35 # breaker: for the recorder? scroll until (offset > LCD_WIDTH - (xmargin + s->startx * w / s->len)) or (offset > LCD_WIDTH - xmargin) as startx is always zero 00.44.36 # @ Zagor all files are downloaded 00.44.43 # werty1st: yes. now how did you record this file? 00.44.56 # this noise file was not downloaded, right? 00.45.20 # @ Miran if the disk spins down the noise starts 00.45.28 # did you record it on the recorder? using the mic? 00.45.50 # Werty1st: Humm, should be THAT loud :D, Archos firmware was noisy 00.46.06 # @ Zagor if i stop playing a file the noise is still there 00.46.47 # @ Zagor i havn´t recorded the file with the jukebox 00.47.12 # breaker: err, i mean: (offset > s->width - (LCD_WIDTH - xmargin)) 00.48.22 # werty1st: Is it dependant on the place where the AJB is? I mean is it standing between your open PC case or mobile phone? Is the ac adaptor plugged in? 00.48.54 # @ breaker no 00.49.04 # freshmaker: Thanks. I'll try. 00.49.05 # werty1st: PLEASE help me here. HOW did you record the file? 00.49.46 # @ Zagor i misunderstood u 00.50.19 # @ Zagor i recorded it with ear and PC-mic 00.50.29 # @ Zagor i recorded it with JB-ear and PC-mic 00.50.48 # werty1st: cable from ear to your soundcard? 00.50.54 # yes 00.50.57 # ok, thanks 00.51.25 # i would say your unit is broken. I recommend you contact Archos for a warranty replacement. 00.52.14 # ok thx @ Zagor 00.55.56 # Zagor: Will we get write(), rename() and remove() after 1.4 release? 00.56.04 # * freshmaker 's makin bambi eyes 00.56.08 # pleeeez 00.56.27 # freshmaker: yes. after 1.4, not in 1.4. 00.56.38 Quit werty1st () 00.56.54 # cool, i have a good pile of ideas... 00.57.02 # nice :-) 00.57.54 # rudimentary file management, scoring system, statistics, ... 00.58.26 # freshmaker: Scoring = Count how many times I listened to a song/album? 00.59.27 # no, listen to a song, thinking "eww, what a crap; but maybe it's my mood." and scoring the mp3 down. 00.59.54 # later i can decide to remove mp3s with the lowest score. 01.00.40 # or we can implement a random play function that's biased on the scores 01.00.54 # freshmaker: aha. I thought of counting how many times I played a song so that I can write a simple perl script that deletes the things I never listen to.. 01.01.21 # yeah, that's would be the statistics i mentioned 01.01.54 Join werty1st [0] (we@stgt-d9b90669.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.02.19 # and i have code for a virtual DJ based on a hidden markov model 01.10.02 # freshmaker: What is a hidden markov model? 01.11.06 # a mathematical thing for trying to reproduce something without really understanding it. you only have input and output. 01.11.07 # freshmaker: You mean it is based on a markov algorithm? 01.11.56 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2315.pppool.de) 01.12.11 # i once tried to teach a hmm to predict the next song, that would be played by a *real* dj. 01.13.22 # it didn't work really well. but i got the idea to use a modified hidden markov automaton to get equivalent results 01.15.15 # you have to tag each mp3 with it's bpm, style of music, etc. and then the automaton will "randomly" select songs, but trie's not to jump around wildly wrt bpm, music style, etc. 01.18.16 # Zagor: The scrolling works correctly now. I now only add the three space characters if I decide to scroll in the round. I'll post the patch to the patch tracker now. 01.18.21 # When will the 1.4 come? 01.18.34 # Real Soon Now :-) 01.18.59 # breaker: is it optional? 01.19.03 # seriously, we'll just add repeat toggle, some persistance thingies and then shove it out the door 01.20.15 # i'm off to bed. see you later. 01.20.20 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 01.20.45 # :( no user editable keys in 1.4 01.21.08 # :-( no 'vi' in 1.4 01.21.23 # freshmaker: No, not now. But I don't think that it disturbs too much (because its only scrolling in both directions if it is a really short string). I don't think that is worth another option. Let's see how the others feel about it. 01.25.43 Quit hardeep (Remote closed the connection) 01.27.57 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.31.18 # freshmaker: My patch is on sourceforge now. Try it! 01.31.31 # yeah, i will 01.31.49 # And now it's time to go to bed. Bye! 01.32.02 # cu 01.32.09 Quit breaker () 01.33.32 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-32-240.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.55.24 Quit Miran ("Its not that you do not see, it is mearly that your eyes do not perceive") 01.55.29 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 01.55.41 # langhaarrocker: you here? 01.56.01 # just a bit. 01.56.10 # did you post that patch to the list? 01.56.23 # with the mp3 split editor? 01.56.30 # abhout thrice 01.56.46 # could you email me the compiled firmware -- my setup died. 01.56.53 # programming is easy. mailing is not. 01.57.01 # :) 01.57.19 # could you try and send it to elinenbe at umich dot edu 01.57.43 # I can do so. But it's not of any use, yet. 01.58.00 # I know.. I just want to see the concept 01.58.21 # cu 01.58.38 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020914]") 02.02.04 # it contains some broken things. Like the osci being too fast and without control, the peak meter has debug bars ... 02.04.26 Join motiv01 [0] (~trillian@sdn-ap-024scfairP0072.dialsprint.net) 02.06.28 # langhaarrocker: thanks! 02.06.45 # have you played star yet? 02.07.10 # I really like it alot 02.07.15 # quite a nice game 02.07.58 # yes 02.08.11 # of course there are some bugs with it acccording to Zagor or Bagder 02.10.03 # It's good to have people like them. That raises the quality of the software. 02.12.53 # true 02.13.04 # I think the editor currently has a whole bunch of bugs :) 02.13.19 # That's what I said. 02.13.27 # I am just suprised they allowed my code :) 02.13.48 # what is it? 02.15.15 # sokoban 02.15.39 # I would like loading of files off the disk 02.15.46 # but that will come in time 02.16.16 # Zagor made a readline in file.c That makes a lot of things easier. 02.17.01 # i'll look at it 02.20.20 # langhaarrocker: what is shooter? 02.20.21 # :) 02.20.31 # a bug 02.20.34 # :) 02.20.39 # hehe 02.23.30 # It might become a game though. But not now. Not before the key binding thing has been cleared out. 02.23.59 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02.23.59 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 02.24.39 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 02.24.39 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 02.25.03 # well, that seems to be quite a project :) 02.26.37 # To big for me to do it alone. 02.29.17 # naaahhhh... 02.29.37 # I don't know perl... 02.37.53 # good night 02.38.12 # night 02.38.15 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.39.51 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02.39.51 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 02.40.09 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 02.40.09 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 02.40.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.47.03 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.52.07 Quit seb-away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.12.22 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@dnvr-dsl-gw34-poola245.DNVR.USWEST.NET) 03.12.29 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD9E12F52.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.18.58 Part motiv01 03.55.27 Join seb-away [0] (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.08.07 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020914]") 04.28.19 Join ronnymorc [0] (we@stgt-d9b90668.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.28.49 Quit ronnymorc (Client Quit) 04.40.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.48.34 Quit werty1st (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.27.36 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@dnvr-dsl-gw34-poola245.DNVR.USWEST.NET) 05.28.35 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.45.39 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.16.54 Quit PiotR ("My name is Bill Gates and I pronounce Windows as güindëvs") 06.17.02 Join PiotR [0] (piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 06.26.04 Quit PiotR ("rabo for all!") 06.26.11 Quit tot|away () 06.27.14 Join PiotR [0] (piotr@212-170-21-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 06.40.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.25.06 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 07.43.07 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.25.20 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABBAA.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.30.58 Join mem [0] (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) 08.39.49 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B4412.pppool.de) 08.40.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.44.43 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.44.53 # good morning ! 08.47.29 # morning 09.02.59 # what the exact purpose of "Clip hold time" ? 09.03.24 # in the peakmeter menu 09.04.09 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.08.43 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.30.26 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 09.36.40 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 09.50.53 Quit mem ("has to reboot the machine, CU soon") 09.54.27 Join Werty1st|pennen [0] (we@stgt-d9b90668.pool.mediaWays.net) 10.00.08 Join mem [0] (~mem@host38-2.bluelabs.se) 10.04.08 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.06.15 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bde45.pppool.de) 10.10.58 # Zagor you around? 10.11.23 # If so he can't have slept very long. 10.11.29 # hehehe 10.11.47 # what's with the nagging about my sleeping patterns? :) 10.11.57 # hehe we want you healthy? 10.12.23 # slightly mad would be ok for me, too. 10.12.26 # Zagor am i doing something wrong or do i still not have access to change/admin bug/feature entries on sourceforge? 10.12.38 # adi|home: uh, i'll check 10.12.40 # bagder said he was going to fix it but i still can't do admin 10.16.00 # hmmm, i think i got basic repeat functionality working... anyone bored and want to test? 10.16.01 # adi|home: now you should have access 10.16.17 # hardeep: I can test. 10.16.19 # hardeep: i'm not bored, but I want to test :-) 10.17.05 # one sec, let me put it up somewhere 10.18.07 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.18.48 # repeat functionality? 10.19.01 # LinusN: i was talking to you about the 'master file' idea right? 10.20.05 # Okay, patch is at http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/repeat_mode.patch and recorder firmware are http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz 10.20.17 # It's still a little rough but it works. :) 10.22.21 # adi|home: "master file"? 10.23.31 # hehe, people really have trouble attaching the patches :-) 10.23.41 # yes. that's me! 10.23.58 # i know i talked to someone.. let me scroll back 10.25.47 # * LinusN gets some coffee 10.26.38 # BTW: I think it would be a good idea to put the standard procedure to apply a patch from the mailing list / patch tracker into the faq. 10.28.06 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.28.22 # what if **end in strtok_r(char *ptr, const char *sep, char **end) good for? 10.28.59 # ahh.. it was Bagder I talked to.. it can wait then 10.29.36 # its intended to be a thread safe version of strtok 10.29.46 # rather a recursive safe 10.30.12 # repeat 1 works fine 10.30.12 # if i remember correctly 10.30.46 # but what do I pass semantically to that **end parameter? 10.31.41 # it is a pointer to a pointer variable where strtok() can store the last pointer position between calls 10.32.23 # just declare a char pointer variable and pass the address to it 10.32.32 # something like an index where to start searching for the next token within ptr? 10.32.43 # and make sure that that variable isn't destroyed between the calls to strtok()' 10.33.16 # Maybe I got the idea now. Thanks. 10.33.49 # langhaarrocker: the way strtok works is to store a pointer in memory for your next call 10.34.02 # but if you are using multi threads etc.. thats a bad thing 10.34.12 # because you may step on that memory with another call to strtok 10.34.25 # strtok_r lets you decide where that memory ptr should be 10.34.31 # that make sense? 10.34.42 # Yes. Absolutely 10.34.54 # hehe i love this song.. 10.35.08 # Avirl Levigne.. she sings 'i wanna see you go down on me... ' 10.35.22 # lol... 18 hot chick talking about oral.. what a wonderful world 10.36.20 # how about making the F2/F3 screen disappear after selecting a boolean option? 10.36.50 # ? 10.36.58 # nah, i don't think i want that. then you have to press it again to change another. 10.37.17 # LinusN Zagor im looking at the tracker system in sourceforge 10.37.24 # Show supported files is a 3state toggle. 10.37.31 # would it make sense to have a bug tracker for releases and one for developement branch?> 10.37.33 # langhaarrocker: good point 10.37.49 # langhaarrocker: that's why i wrote "boolean" 10.37.49 # does anybody know how prevent windows from creating a recycled folder on the jukebox after connecting it 10.37.50 # adi|home: no, we have too many bugs in dev code 10.37.55 Nick Werty1st|pennen is now known as werty1st (we@stgt-d9b90668.pool.mediaWays.net) 10.37.55 # the quick menus need to be fixed to only display in internal fonts btw. 10.38.02 # adi|home: already done 10.38.08 # k 10.38.36 # i'd like boolean settings to close the screen 10.38.46 # Zagor not to sound stupid.. but so? 10.38.48 # LinusN: why? 10.38.49 # * adi|home smirks 10.39.08 # adi|home: so we'd spend all day closing and responding to bug reports instead of writing code 10.39.11 # LinusN: I don't agree.. main reason.. what if i want to change 2 settings? 10.39.19 # if one is bool.. i have to menu again to change the other 10.39.48 # well... now we're asking them to ask on irc or mail to the list, is that any better? 10.39.48 # IMHO it gets very confusing if some settings close the screen and some not 10.39.58 # Zagor: possibly 10.40.28 # adi|home: yes, i think it is. most questions concern bugs already fixed. the dev code moves too fast for a bug tracker 10.40.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.40.49 # i was only a little annoyed by having to close it manually using the one-hand shortcut 10.40.49 # fair enouhg 10.41.17 # let's go key schemes and all this f2/f3 screen disappear problem can be delegated to the users :) 10.41.21 # Zagor: but we might want to allow for quick bug-report-mails without subscribing 10.41.56 # langhaarrocker: the quick screens must still have options for this in the key settings 10.42.11 # the key config will be a huge feature-bloat 10.42.30 # LinusN: that's questionable too, actually. people generally don't give enough information in their first mail so we want to keep a dialogue. 10.42.46 # i agree with LinusN on bloat 10.43.01 # Zagor: agreed, but i'd prefer that to not getting the report at all 10.43.19 # langhaarrocker: any plans how to implement feedback with your key scheme? sounds like you're approaching a full scripting language soon... 10.43.23 # to me.. having a bunch of users complaing because their buttons aren't doing what they expect because they screwed up their own config, is to me a pain as well. 10.43.36 # adi|home: i fear that too 10.44.00 # dont get me wrong.. im all for a wide user feature set.. 10.44.07 # but we have to draw the line somewhere 10.44.08 # Zagor: What do you mean with 'feedback'? 10.44.16 # adi|home: i understand perfectly 10.44.34 # now were talking about also passing _every_ button stroke through a filter to figure out wtf to do... 10.44.38 # dunno if i like that at all. 10.44.44 # and at run time non-the-less 10.44.56 # langhaarrocker: lcd display. things like the quickscreen etc. 10.45.33 # Ok, I'll include how to open a quick screen in my demo. It can be done with the existing model already. 10.46.22 # langhaarrocker: that's my point 10.46.25 # langhaarrocker: no, my point is with key-config quickscreens don't exist in the code (since they are hard-coded button handlers). so there must be a way to implement things like that dynamically... 10.46.42 # anyone have a problem with volume changing to a single value increment? 10.47.04 # we'll continuously have to add things to the key config as users want sillier and sillier config options 10.47.14 # adi|home: not me 10.47.19 # adi|home: i'm thinking maybe an option... i like moving two clicks. :) 10.47.21 # Zagor: the key handling of the quick screens should be rewritten. Is that what you mean? 10.47.27 # but we have 2% increments because people complained 10.47.36 # Zagor: i thought about that.. but my only prob with that is.. well.. 10.47.46 # langhaarrocker: no, i mean the user can invent whatever quickscreen system he wants. so the screen display cannot be hard-coded at all. 10.47.46 # we don't have that as an option on any other menu. 10.47.51 # but im not against it.. 10.48.01 # Maybe 2% in WPS, and 1% in settings? 10.48.06 # adi|home: i agree. i'll have to test with 1 step and see if that's really a bother 10.48.23 # LinusN: im against that even more ;) 10.48.31 # it should be standard ;) 10.48.39 # i agre 10.48.40 # not action a in one local and action b in another 10.48.42 # agree 10.48.42 # i think 1% is good 10.48.50 # Zagor: 2 clicks is possible by making a 'macro' that s binding increase by one to the same key twice. 10.48.57 # well. we could do 1 and if ppl complain, we add an increment option 10.48.59 # hows that sound? 10.49.15 # sounds good 10.49.18 # adi|home: i'm all for that 10.49.20 # ill fix 10.49.41 # adi|home: are you aware how to implement this? 10.49.45 # Zagor: Next step would be to make all the menus and quick screens user configurable as well. 10.49.50 # 1 val increments? 10.49.55 # yes 10.50.11 # langhaarrocker: that would require a scripting language 10.50.12 # well.. i figure ill see where we're doing 2 % and work from there... 10.50.54 # look in mpeg_sound_set() 10.51.12 # and don't forget to change the min,max and default 10.51.14 # Zagor: I don't see why. The menu items execute commands just like the keys do. We can reuse that mechanism and just have to bind menu items to commands. 10.51.18 # nod 10.52.46 # langhaarrocker: then we'd have commands like run_sound_menu, run_games_menu etc. which means you cannot configure the menus 10.53.50 # Zagor: no, we'd have run_menu(i) 10.53.52 # also I don't quite see how for example the WPS/browser toggling would work 10.54.25 # Zagor: simply by changing the key scheme when executing the command. 10.54.45 # langhaarrocker: this is getting heavy 10.54.49 # langhaarrocker: yes, but if we just call new commands every time we'll blow the stack 10.54.56 # Zagor: I've done toggling in the demo on the play button. 10.55.42 # Zagor: no, it's more like the wps uses it's key scheme and the browsers uses it's own. 10.56.02 # langhaarrocker: right, but what does ON do in the WPS keyscheme? 10.57.28 # Zagor: it has many functionalities. But they all are triggered by different events from different states. Each state uses it's own key scheme. 10.57.41 # know something that needs to be fixed with ask resume? 10.57.54 # if you weren't playing a song last time, or you said no 10.57.59 # it shouldnt ask again :) 10.58.00 # langhaarrocker: my point is: each event calls a function, right? 10.58.08 # this is my 3rd reboot w/ it asking :) 10.58.19 # Zagor: yes, but the functions return somewhen. 10.58.39 # langhaarrocker: yes, but wps/browser toggling cannot call functions, since that will blow the stack 10.58.40 # So the stack won't grow 10.59.08 # ON in wps calls browser(), on in browser calls wps(), on in wps calls browser() etc etc 10.59.27 # How that done now? 10.59.35 # the WPS returns 10.59.44 # back to the dir browser that called it 11.00.14 # exatcly tha same problem that makes F1 return to WPS difficult 11.01.25 # Show me the code where the problem is handled now and I'll tell you how to do it with key schemes. 11.02.03 # langhaarrocker: wps.c:704 11.02.50 # * langhaarrocker is investigating 11.03.34 # LinusN: why in volume is default = to 70/2 11.03.40 # or basically 140/2 right now? 11.06.08 # hmmmm, is anyone else getting duplicate messages from sourceforge? 11.06.25 # nods 11.06.31 # i get it from time to time 11.07.10 # from time to time I accidently send messages twice ... 11.07.11 # * langhaarrocker blushes 11.07.25 # adi|home: default is 70%, but mpeg_sound_set wants 2% steps 11.07.32 # hardeep: that's duplicate entries, not duplicate messages... 11.07.34 # got ya... 11.08.21 # adi|home: this is because the WPS wanted simple increase/decrease functions without caring how big the steps were 11.08.32 # nods 11.08.42 # we no longer had a lang.h file correct? 11.08.47 # zagor: yeah, that could be it. they look awfully alike though :) 11.09.20 # yeah. and neither had a patch attached... 11.09.25 # adi|home: correct 11.09.57 # i haven't sent a patch. is it hard to understand how to attach a file? 11.10.57 # You have to check a check box. It' easy to forget that. 11.11.32 # okay, known bugs with the repeat mode changes I posted: 1. doesn't display end of playlist when repeat mode is off, 2. toggling off "repeat one" doesn't work at end of buffer 11.12.09 # k.. gotta fix the games then.. they are still looking for it 11.12.12 # but, I'm about ready to pass out... i'll look more tomorrow if no one else does 11.12.13 # cleaning that up first 11.13.50 # g'night all 11.13.51 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 11.13.55 # i'm adding a notice about the checkbox 11.14.03 # Zagor: good 11.14.25 # um.. okay.. im confused.. 11.14.31 # adi|home: ? 11.14.32 # we DO NOT have a lang.h file? 11.14.39 # adi|home: we auto-generate it 11.14.41 # we generate it 11.14.43 # okay... 11.15.01 # then yes or no on lang.h to be included as a #include? 11.15.13 # or are we just ignoring build errors saying its not found? 11.15.14 # yes 11.15.31 # we are ignoring errors from the dependecy generator 11.15.58 # sigh.. okay 11.18.12 # Zagor: Now I finally understand the problem you see with the key schemes. You in fact found a weak point. 11.18.28 # langhaarrocker: ok 11.18.41 # * adi|home notes that the logic police strike again 11.20.32 # * langhaarrocker enters a monastery for meditation on the problem 11.20.36 # langhaarrocker: same problem with having F1 return directly to WPS/browser 11.21.02 # I'll return when I solved that. CU. 11.21.19 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 11.24.35 Quit pyvasene ("Leaving...") 11.33.26 # nice commits, adi :-) 11.35.09 # what do you think about the convert-underscores patch? 11.35.23 # I don't like changing the filenames, generally. 11.36.16 # volume increment fixed 11.36.25 # commiting now 11.36.49 # or not.. collision 11.36.51 # * adi|home sighs 11.40.24 # okay.. now its fixed 11.42.21 # adi|home: mark the feature request "fixed" (but don't close it) 11.42.54 # nods 11.43.05 # adi|home: why did you comment out the value*=2 instead of removing it? 11.43.35 # so that if we decide to make the increment a feature, ppl remember to fix it there to 11.43.48 # if you want to remove it.. do so 11.43.55 # we have CVS 11.44.03 # generally, we don't keep old code in the files 11.44.15 # oh.. sure.. point out the obvious... 11.44.21 # :-) 11.44.35 # all code older than 4 weeks is automatically removed 11.46.28 # hehehe 11.48.14 # we have 2 sepeareate 1% step requests 11.48.26 # should i mark the newer as duplicate, or just list both as fixed? 11.48.31 # one mentions the config 11.48.36 # the other mentions it in the comments 11.49.50 # just mark them both as fixed, if they both are 11.49.58 # noeds 11.50.01 # nods even 11.51.31 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 11.53.08 # hmm.. thats intersted 11.53.15 Join breaker [0] (~mail@isdn216-211.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 11.53.18 # on the resume menu.. with 'on for resume' 11.53.21 # adi|home: you must bump the CONFIG_BLOCK_VERSION number 11.53.42 # if you put in the usb.. it detects as a keystroke and goes to dir browswer 11.53.44 # LinusN: where? 11.53.57 # otherwise the volume setting will be wrong 11.54.00 #