--- Log for 07.10.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 7 days ago 00.00.12 # i think it would be more appropriate to not shut off 00.00.13 # The bass -12 prob is reproducable in the bleeding edge build 00.00.17 # but a one-time ask-resume in such cases might be convenient? i dunno, i've always got resume on anyways 00.00.28 # LinusN: It seems that the bass is set to -12 every time a "auto volume: 0" line is the last line in an .eq file. If I have a "auto volume: 0" line in the middle of the .eq file, the bass is ok. Does that help? 00.00.32 # PsycoXul: excellent idea 00.00.57 # breaker: your file has auto-volume last, and that works for me 00.01.35 # LinusN: you're using the bleeding edge build, too? 00.01.36 # breaker: look for atoi on archos.map 00.01.49 # Your bass is not -12 when you go to the sound menu? Why is this happening on my unit and at langhaarrockers? 00.01.52 # archos.map? 00.01.55 # langhaarrocker: no, i build from CVS 00.02.04 # let me download the lates build 00.02.53 # there any way to set/unset the system and hidden attributes of a file on a fat FS through linux? 00.03.04 # breaker: archos.map is generated when building the executable 00.03.15 # PsycoXul: don't know 00.03.17 # i figured out why my archos.mod's not showing with "Supported" selected as the filter 00.03.29 # LinusN: And what does it tell me? Where should I look at? 00.03.45 # it's cause the factory-installed archos.mod was set system and hidden, and i've never deleted it or changed those (i've always just copied the new file over it) 00.04.08 # breaker: it tells where the atoi function is coming from 00.04.44 # PsycoXul: silly Windows behaviour 00.04.51 # LinusN: librockbox.a(atoi.o) 00.04.55 # ok 00.05.26 # bbl 00.05.37 # i tried with the latest bleeding edge and breakers file. it works 00.05.55 # Then we must have different recorders. 00.06.04 # wait a sec 00.06.26 # Mine was with V1.17i 00.06.56 # Mine has 1.28 installed. 00.07.13 # But how can that be? Are there different MAS chips in the recorders. I don't believe that. 00.07.13 # 1.25 00.07.38 # ok, i can reproduce it now 00.07.53 # My recorder is _vintage_ :) 00.09.01 # I must sleep. 00.09.14 # I'll be right back in a few minutes. Only taking another ISP on mondays.. ;) 00.09.17 Quit breaker () 00.09.27 Part langhaarrocker 00.11.23 Join breaker [0] (~mail@B78e4.pppool.de) 00.11.28 # Hi again. 00.11.56 # breaker: is internet access expensive in germany? 00.12.42 # We have a "Telekom XXL" and that means calls in whole germany for free on sundays. And I was connected with the university. 00.13.00 # aha 00.13.10 # Now I'm online with freenet. That's 0,89 EUR / Min. 00.13.28 # 0,089 EUR. :) 00.14.39 # I should go to bed. 0,0089 EUR / Min or 0,89 Ct / Min. 00.16.32 # So you can reproduce the prob with the latest cvs version. Any idea where to search? The settings.c looks good to me. 00.16.58 # i'm debugging wth gdb right now 00.35.03 # i found the bug 00.35.53 # Fine. :) What was the problem? 00.35.54 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 00.36.19 # The channel eq setting saved the value in global_settings.bass 00.36.30 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 00.36.34 # Arr. 00.37.10 # i have committed a fix 00.37.15 # But why was this only when a auto volume line was at the end of my .eq file? 00.37.28 # I'll test the current cvs version. 00.37.38 # breaker: poltergeist? 00.37.39 # hello! 00.37.43 # hi 00.37.45 # LinusN: up late? 00.37.50 # yup 00.38.08 # LinusN: I do not think the RIGHT button should play a song. 00.38.30 # LinusN: F1+UP = F3 (in menus or directory browser, but not WPS) kind of odd! 00.40.01 # elinenbe: tnat os not odd at all if you read the schematics 00.40.13 # but why does it not do it in the WPS? 00.40.36 # elinenbe: because the F3 key is filtered out when F1 is pressed 00.41.01 # It is quite confusing. Everytime that happens I wonder how I got into the menu, and then I have to figure out that it is the F3 button that needs to be pressed. 00.41.31 # why do you press f1+up? 00.42.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.42.30 # like I hit F1 to go into the menu, and then up quickly to move the cursor... sometimes I hit them too closely (at the same time) 00.42.36 # and then all hell breaks lose! 00.45.16 # LinusN: It works now. :) But I saw another thing: I made files "1.eq", "2.eq",... and they don't have a EQ-File-Symbol. Also they aren't executed. I'm not shure, but I think they were executed when I selected them some minutes ago?!? 00.45.23 # here are some nice quotes: 00.45.23 # Go with the Archos recorder 20gb!!! With the Rockbox firmware its the best deal around by far. 00.45.39 # I second that. The AJB20GB recorder is a good choice (with Rockbox!). 00.45.53 # The work the Rockbox crew is doing transforms the Recorder from a very nice machine to a great one. They seek input from the users, respond to that input and are making the firmware even better. I wouldn't expect that kind of support from Creative. 00.46.12 # this forum and community, along with the rockbox development has definately pushed me towards a bouncy blue-cornered archos 00.46.30 # elinenbe: Copy-and-paste? ;-) 00.46.30 # I was trying yesterdays daily built and it is awesome. Excellent. Alas now for the recording function to be implemented. The structure of the menus is much better and the cool peak display feature is fantastic. 00.46.35 # yeah :) 00.46.46 # I hope the archos guys are listening to those things as well :) 00.46.47 # Once again, I can't believe what you guys have done with my crappy Archos recorder. Now it is my INCREDIBLE Archos recorder. All my friends envy me now! It has even helped me pick up a few girls (all in the past week!) 00.47.02 # I don't know what to say, but I am speechless. Rockbox is by far the most impressive and incredible project I have ever seen. 00.47.49 # that's all for now! 00.48.10 # Yeah, it's really cool! Just got the compiler running to do some experimenting..! 00.48.46 # http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2002/yeppyp900.html 00.49.51 # Is there an icon for repeat1 yet? 00.52.11 # elinenbe: At least not in my cvs version from five minutes ago. 00.53.26 # well, there is one in there, but it is just a "1" and it is the bmp 00.55.21 # I am going to edit the icons a little. The font icon and the language icon need to be cleaned up 00.55.43 # also, there is no .txt icon yet... 00.57.00 # what is the new extension for .eq 00.57.11 # is it .set? or .cfg or something like that? 00.57.56 # .eq 00.58.18 # I think it will be cfg in the near future. 00.58.30 # ahh.. okay 00.59.19 # Are you making icons for the player or recorder? 00.59.58 # Is there a tool to convert a bitmap (bmp/tiff/...) into the format that can be found somewhere in the .c files? 01.00.18 # Or are you calculating the values by hand? 01.03.00 # It seems that all files "?.eq" (only one character) are not recognized as .eq files. Maybe the same with the other file types as well (not tested). Is this a known bug? 01.03.21 # no 01.04.07 # At least there's no eq symbol left of these eq files. I'll test mp3 files. Wait a minute. 01.04.27 # i see a possible bug 01.04.44 # yup 01.05.20 # .eq files are only recognized if the file name is longer than 4 characters, including the . 01.06.14 # A 1.mp3 and a.m3u work ok here. 01.06.35 # 1.mp3 has 5 characters 01.06.48 # Ah, I see. :) 01.07.10 # that will be "fixed" when we rename them to .cfg :-) 01.07.17 # :) 01.07.33 # Are you shure that all supported files have a 3-character extension? 01.07.41 # yup 01.07.50 # So no fix for this? 01.08.10 # i guess not 01.08.15 # OK then. 01.09.05 # All: Good night. I'll go to bed now.. Bye. 01.09.39 Quit breaker () 01.11.04 # are there any showstoppers left for 1.4? 01.11.52 # yes 01.11.59 # what is that? 01.12.17 # the mpeg dma on disk errors, and the remote control support 01.19.45 # time to sleep 01.19.47 # night 01.21.14 # night 01.22.04 Part LinusN 01.24.28 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.30.00 # What the heck are mpeg dma on disk errors? Read error? Write error? Transfer? 01.52.35 Part elinenbe 02.03.03 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-32-126.mia.bellsouth.net) 02.11.14 Quit radhard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.42.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.55.55 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 03.02.36 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 03.09.16 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 03.39.24 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.09.52 Join PsycoXul_ [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-203.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 04.22.21 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.16 Nick PsycoXul_ is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-203.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 04.42.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.03.33 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 05.03.46 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.11.02 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 06.42.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.58.09 Join Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 07.01.14 Quit Synthe (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.04.10 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 07.09.03 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.14.58 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 07.15.57 # elinenbe_: have your recorder at hand? 07.18.16 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.50.28 # i do 07.50.43 # what do you need? 07.50.55 # and i thought you had a recorder 07.51.00 # adi|home: go to the debug->I/O ports screen 07.51.29 # press F1,F2,F3 and UP and give me the AN4 readings 07.51.50 # press left, down, play and right and give me the AN5 readings 07.51.51 # k.. give me a min 07.53.00 # grrrr.. stupid reboot 07.53.37 # reboot? 07.53.54 # yeah.. my unit is flaky 07.53.59 # okay 07.54.06 # f1, f2 and f3 vary 07.54.14 # f1: 16A or 169 07.54.20 # f2: 225 or 226 07.54.28 # f3: 339 or 33A 07.55.50 # LinusN: 223 through 229 07.55.55 # sorry LEFT is that 07.56.11 # Dow: 396 through 39B 07.56.23 # Right: 167 through 16c 07.56.44 # up: 000 through 003 07.56.47 # that good? 07.57.17 # what is an4 when you press up? 07.57.18 # play i get: 07.57.40 # 2e0, 2dd, 2dc, 2df 07.57.47 # others flash, but i can'st see them... 07.57.58 # checking up again 07.59.14 # up an4: 2df 2de 07.59.27 # thx 07.59.34 # np 07.59.47 # i may have missed a few numbers with it fluctuating so rapidly 07.59.48 # your unit gives very low values 07.59.55 # what exactly are the an1-an5 08.00.07 # analog inputs 08.00.08 # A/D 08.00.18 # wtf do they fluctuate so wildly 08.00.23 # noise 08.00.37 # nods 08.00.58 # you had key problems before 1.3 right? 08.01.08 # nope key problems so much 08.01.16 # my problem is the random reboots on the unit 08.01.23 # do you have your charger at hand? 08.01.27 # but i think thats just the unit.. why the guy sold it on ebay 08.01.28 # nods 08.01.43 # sure do 08.01.45 # try the same with the charger attached 08.02.05 # see if it is any different 08.02.37 # no differance 08.03.42 # ok 08.04.04 # i really need eric's values 08.05.00 # i take it his were very different? 08.05.32 # he has some complaints 08.05.46 # not serious 08.06.21 # what ROM version do you have? 08.10.05 Quit elinenbe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.22.27 # dunno off hand 08.22.40 # reboot then 08.22.55 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.22.59 # yo Bagder! 08.23.10 # howdy 08.23.19 # i get os version 1.24 08.23.22 # if thats what you mean 08.23.30 # our remote control handling is silly 08.23.33 # adi|home: yes, thx 08.23.49 # np 08.23.54 # Bagder: you have 1.25? 08.24.08 # yes 08.24.14 # okay.. nappy by time 08.24.22 # adi|home: night! 08.24.35 # the remote control sends ordinary key codes 08.24.44 # thus, it is blocked by the key lock 08.25.01 # silly as silly can be 08.25.41 # and the "global" key lock function in wps makes it difficult to change 08.40.55 Nick Synthe` is now known as Synthe (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 08.42.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.49.45 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 minutes and 27 seconds at the last flood 08.49.45 # * Bagder learns that bitkeeper is evil 08.52.46 # puuh 08.53.22 # why did that have to get /.:d 08.53.42 # ah, it was? 08.53.53 # yes :( 08.53.59 # huge load of comments 08.54.05 # all the usual shit 08.54.10 # never took a peek at it myself 08.55.30 # bitkeeper is evil? 08.55.54 # kind of, yes 08.56.10 # http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/06/0518220 08.57.14 # childish 09.01.30 # "Actually, every time you slashdot kiddies get your undies in a bundie our sales go up. Thanks." 09.03.15 Quit fragglet (Connection timed out) 09.04.20 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 09.04.51 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.05.02 # good morning all ! 09.05.07 # morning bob 09.05.22 # bobTHC: what ROM version do you have? 09.07.08 # no idea, i'haven't it here but it's an old version, (i bought it in febuary 2001) 09.08.09 # sorry :( 09.18.52 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 09.19.16 # elinenbe: what ROM version do you have? 09.20.08 # (is he awake, or is it just his IRC client that has a life of its own?) 09.21.02 # hard to tell 09.21.30 # * LinusN is not fond of 24h online IRC clients 09.21.54 # hard to tell if people are online 09.22.22 # away is there for a reason 09.22.58 # how do i tell if elinenbe is away? 09.23.17 # he is not - which is a failure on his part 09.23.26 # * LinusN is away: meeting 09.23.31 # ...that is if he isn't there lurking and laughing at our stupid speculations :) 09.23.37 # how do i get back? 09.23.46 # just /away without a message 09.23.50 # * LinusN is back (gone 00:00:23) 09.23.59 # 10:23 away : meeting 09.24.00 # how do you people see that i am away? 09.24.05 # what was what I got from whoising you 09.24.13 # * LinusN is away: meeting 09.24.21 # * LinusN is back (gone 00:00:07) 09.24.42 # i like the /nick|reason better 09.24.52 # I don't 09.24.57 # Bagder: explain 09.25.00 # oh and generally it's bad etiquette to announce oneself going away and coming back on public channels - especially large ones - but on this channel it's probably fine 09.25.03 # I don't either 09.25.06 # that only works good if there are very few people online 09.25.27 # as soon as there are X people, that becomes a nighmare 09.26.00 # ... and it used to be reason for /kick in the good old days ;-) 09.26.21 # i want instant whois info in my xchat nick list 09.26.27 # and also by changing your nick you make it impossible for other people to know why you are away if they do not share a channel 09.26.41 # * adi|home is away: masturbating sewer rats 09.26.44 # :) 09.27.07 # * adi|home is back (gone 00:00:26) 09.27.30 # besides, /away is the IRC method for doing this thing - let's not invent gazillions of other methods to do the same thing :) 09.29.11 # Hadaka: agreed 09.29.12 # but, I'm _away_, off to work :) 09.57.53 # when running rockbox, digital out should be working, afaik 09.58.01 # in a line-out fashion? i.e. I could connect to speakers and should hear something? 09.58.08 # yes 09.58.16 # My jukebox must be broken 09.58.29 # Bagder: you lied to the poor bastard 10.00.54 # so digital out is not working? 10.01.06 # I thought it did 10.01.33 # * Hes work 10.01.59 # oops. I am away even though I'm not. Think i proved myself wrong? 10.04.13 # Bagder: digital out is digital. S/PDIF. To connect to a S/PDIF input, not to Line In on the amplifier. 10.04.28 # yes 10.04.34 # digital out sends digital out 10.05.00 # he asked "in a line-out fashion? i.e. I could connect to speakers and should hear something?" 10.05.05 # and you said yes 10.05.27 # that's a question of definition in my mind 10.05.45 # so what anyway 10.07.14 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.07.23 # "connect to speakers" says it all imho 10.15.55 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.22.11 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B26e0.pppool.de) 10.22.33 # godd morning Chief Longhair! 10.22.47 # gäääähn 10.23.26 # seems you have solved the bass setting riddle. 10.24.04 # yup 10.24.34 # What's still missing for 1.4? 10.24.59 # better mpeg dma handling (on disk errors) 10.25.22 # Star game 10.25.39 # not a showstopper though 10.25.59 # all that mpeg dma and disk stuff still is magic to me. 10.26.11 # :-) 10.26.26 # we work hard to make it look difficult 10.26.42 # so that we look cool and competent 10.27.23 # worked out :) 10.28.49 # I'm a bit disappointed that I couldn't find anything in the MAS docu for finer control of the spidf in/out. I think spdif principially is capable of sending info when a track changes. But maybe the mas simply doesn't support anything like that. 10.29.24 # probably not 10.29.50 # the only support other than audio is RDM :-( 10.29.56 # DRM 10.30.13 # ? 10.34.33 # Digital Rights Management 10.34.45 # a, yes. 10.37.20 # The lack of detecting / indicating track changes via spdif is surprisingly uncool for such a feature maniac thing like the MAS. 10.38.14 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 10.38.21 # Btw: don't use that peak meter patch yet, I'll have to expand it. 10.39.48 # ok 10.40.05 # cu, must work now 10.40.39 # cu 10.42.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.07 # langhaarrocker: i need your help 10.50.34 # pyvasene: you there? 10.50.50 # TotMacher: you there? 10.51.40 # yes 10.51.44 # what ? 10.51.47 # recorder or player? 10.52.03 # rekorder 10.52.06 # rom version? 10.57.47 # LinuxN: yep 10.58.16 # pyvasene: recorder or player? rom version? 10.58.51 # recorder 1.26 10.59.15 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.59.23 # can you go to menu->debug->I/O ports? 10.59.56 # LinuxN: I haven't got it with me for the moment, sorry. 11.00.04 # too bad 11.01.17 # totmacher? 11.04.59 # Hes: you there? 11.06.20 # rom version 11.06.22 # 1.17 11.07.21 # TotMacher: go to menu->debug->I/O ports 11.07.30 # i dont have it herte 11.07.31 # sorry 11.07.37 # bla 11.07.53 # is it 1.17 or 1.17i? 11.14.09 # Yes 11.16.34 # Hes: go to menu->debug->I/O ports 11.17.22 # statistics collection round? 8-) 11.17.29 # Morning. 11.17.38 # LinusN: have my recorder here (1.28) 11.17.43 # Hes: yes. rom version? 11.17.47 # Need the readings again? 11.17.57 # there. which readings do you want? 11.18.08 # mbr: yes 11.18.21 # press F1,F2,F3 and UP and give me the AN4 readings 11.18.30 # press left, down, play and right and give me the AN5 readings 11.19.47 # AN4: none: 0-1, F1 190-191, F2 263-264, F3 3ff, up 331-332 11.21.08 # AN5: none 0-2, left 264-266, down 2ff, play 335-337, right 192-194 11.21.19 # ROM is 1.26 11.22.14 # battery is at 4.9V 11.22.40 # Hes: is DOWN really 2ff? 11.23.01 # typo, 3ff of course. 11.23.05 # OK 11.23.15 # ATA address? 11.23.27 # AN4: none: 0-2, F1: 18E-190, F2: 261-264, F3: 3FF, UP: 333-334 11.23.28 # AN5: none: 0-1, LEFT: 262-264, DOWN: 3FF, PLAY: 333-334, RIGHT:190-193 11.24.11 # ata is at 0x200 11.24.30 # Battery 5.34V 11.24.41 # ata is at 0x200 11.25.08 # moin mbr 11.25.24 # Moin Schnueff 11.28.55 # Schnueff: player or recorder? ROM version? 11.29.01 # unit n/a :| 11.29.07 # bad 11.29.15 # but i can check the evening 11.29.20 # rec 1.28 11.29.46 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 11.30.14 # results so far tell us that the current button limits are not optimal 11.30.18 # elinenbe: awake? 11.30.44 # How often do we poll the keyboard? 11.31.32 # I was at a student party on saturday, played CD's for a couple hours in the morning (around 04-06 AM) and also quite a few pieces from the jukebox 11.32.19 # found the latency for starting playback, from pause in beginning of song, unconveniently high for that purpose 11.32.58 # we poll it every 20ms 11.33.37 # Hes: are you talking about HD spinup time? 11.34.56 # Hmm, wouldn't the buffer be filled up already, after i've seeked to the beginning of the song and pressed pause? 11.35.37 # Hes: describe step-by-step what you did 11.37.16 # while in playback, in WPS, not paused click right & left until find the right song, let it play for a few seconds, click on left to make it go to the beginning of the song and press pause before it starts playing 11.37.26 # then click play 11.39.22 # works instantly for me 11.41.03 # better to pause before you press left, btw 11.43.21 # feels a bit slower than the DJ dual CD players we have 11.44.12 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.45.01 # Hes: we're talking milliseconds here 11.45.51 # approx. 50ms (20 for button latency, and 20-30ms for MAs buffering the first frame) 11.46.28 # Yes 11.47.00 # "unconveniently high latency" 11.47.12 # beat mixing? 11.47.27 # For that purpose, yes, not for the average use 8-) never noticed it before 11.48.16 # not actually beat mixing (not at same tempo) but to have the next song start on the next beat of the previous song 11.50.33 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 11.50.38 # yo 11.51.02 # yo 11.52.28 # other than that, it really rocked, could play quite a few requested songs that i have in my collection even though they're not in the CD collection of the student club 11.52.39 # going to a meeting, bye 11.55.55 # Zagor: i need info from yout recorder 11.56.03 # ROM version and ATA address 11.56.10 # ok 11.56.57 # 1.24, 0x200 11.57.29 # thx 11.58.16 # i need the ATA address for 1.17 units 11.58.30 # are there 1.17 and 1.17i units? 11.59.25 # Zagor: the current handling of the remote control is not very good when it comes to keylocking 11.59.36 # why? 11.59.43 # we should separate remote keys from buttons 11.59.54 # locking the remote is not very nice 12.00.00 # ah, right. 12.00.18 # the current wps code makes that difficult 12.00.25 # ypu 12.00.44 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.01.02 # perhaps an extra button-bit for the remote? 12.01.16 # Bagder: yes 12.01.35 # separate remote key codes with a remote bit set 12.01.43 # for easy filtering 12.01.45 # right 12.01.53 # that is clear 12.02.01 # the hard part is the wps 12.02.12 # somebody know how many caracter by line with alt8x8.fnt? 12.02.25 # 112/8 12.02.44 # or? 12.02.57 # bobTHC: always check with lcd_getstringsize() 12.04.21 # thanx, because i think about the *.nfo reader 12.04.24 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=594453&group_id=44306&atid=439121 12.04.52 # what's an .nfo file? 12.04.58 # and *.nfo file it's 82c/line so it's fit well 12.05.46 # it's information file who come with apllications and musik 12.06.04 # why can't the current text viewer be used? 12.06.19 # just a question off extention 12.07.31 # renaming all by txt is a possibilty but directly viewing it with right extention is better? 12.08.46 # is .nfo really a widespread extension? 12.09.12 # definitly Yes ! 12.10.00 # *.nfo ; *.diz ; *.log ; *.1st ... 12.10.31 # just added it to the text filter 12.10.51 # s/added/add 12.11.01 # bobTHC: does .nfo have a defined format? 12.11.11 # yep 12.14.12 # .NFO = InfoBase format :-) 12.14.40 # *.netware folio too 12.15.06 # Filioview 12.22.37 # bbl 12.22.39 Part Bagder 12.40.10 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.42.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.06 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.59.41 Quit TotMacher () 13.22.00 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 13.29.49 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.50.07 # LinusN: I am thinking about status on USB screen. How can this be done? add a timeout verion of usb_wait_for_disconnect) and queue_wait()? 13.50.25 # Any ideas? 13.51.46 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 13.51.54 # mbr: i think the usb thread should do it 13.52.26 # LinusN: usb thread calls status_draw() in apps dir? 13.52.29 # let usb_display_info show a little more, and have it called in regular intervals 13.52.43 # mbr: hmmm, didn't think of that 13.53.20 # it isn't necessary that the usb thread shows the info 13.53.39 # but the usb thread is the only thread that knows if we really entered usb mode 13.54.29 # we can solve it with a callback function 13.54.45 # move usb_display_info() to the app dir 13.56.10 Join DexterAYS [0] (~xxxx@pD9E4E001.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.56.19 # And then pass a functio pointer to the usb thread with the usb_wait_for_disconnect() function? 13.58.35 # And in the usb thread we also have a blocking queue_wait(). 13.59.12 # Hi guys, did someone ever think of the RESUME function as follows: loading a playlist asks for RESUME or START OVER? so i could resume the playlist even if i played some other tunes/playlists in between? (so that makes the resume stuff saving not to the fixed hd-block, but to a file like playlist.rbx (when the playlist would be playlist.m3u).. ? 13.59.21 # mbr: call the function usb_display_info() 13.59.27 # no pointers 13.59.35 # Hi Linus 13.59.59 # DexterAYS: resume means "start up where you shut off" 14.00.07 # DexterAYS: you are talking about bookmarks? 14.00.12 # DexterAYS: what you are referring to, we call bookmarks 14.00.46 # LinusN: What about the blocking queue_wait() in usb thread? 14.00.51 # mbr: the usb thread has to use a timeout function 14.00.59 # ah okay guys, didn't know anything about those bookmarks... soo you're having this in mind, too? 14.01.05 # DexterAYS: yup 14.01.13 # DexterAYS: yes. that will come later, when we can create files 14.02.58 # you're toooo damn cool guys, really... so there's nothing more to say then ;) just gotta wait... i'm off lettin' you code then hehe 14.03.39 Join Bagder2 [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.03.45 # Yo Bagder2! 14.03.50 # hey ho 14.04.00 # DexterAYS: :-) 14.04.21 # bye dudes! 14.04.23 Part DexterAYS 14.10.19 # Zagor: hehe, do you really believe the guy had a patch? :-) 14.10.48 # i was looking at the patches, then this... :-) 14.13.20 # Zagor: it is somewhat annoying that the recorder doesn't save the settings instantly 14.13.31 # ? of course it does. 14.13.45 # maybe it does, and the disk info takes precedence 14.13.56 # only if rtc is corrupted 14.14.19 # try it 14.14.37 # this is a month old code. it has always worked. 14.14.43 # change a setting and turn off the unit 14.15.35 # works great 14.16.13 # I am silly 14.16.17 # (again) 14.16.41 # :) 14.16.54 # i wondered why it failed for me when i tried it the last time 14.17.12 # never mind 14.17.36 # i have investigated the vbri format some more 14.17.55 # it definitely looks like it can't handle large files 14.19.16 # clever format 14.19.24 # :-) 14.20.29 # LinusN: did you commit the new button limits? 14.20.53 # i haven't really determined what limits to have 14.21.43 # but all information points to 250,500,700,900 14.21.46 # pre-1.3 14.22.22 # i can see differences between the hardware versions 14.22.40 # rom versions? 14.22.43 # the 1.24 units have lower voltages 14.23.13 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 14.23.16 # if you want a 1.17 report, mail a request on rockbox and yahoo 14.23.26 # i will 14.24.13 # i'll add a new debug screen for this 14.24.36 # it will include info about USB, ATA and MAS 14.25.08 # why a new screen? 14.25.17 # LinusN: Just to be sure that I understood you. You meant, that usb_display_info() should be moved to apps (maybe screens.c) and then call usb_display_info() from usb thread in firmware dir? 14.25.24 # because the //O screen is full 14.25.41 # mbr: yes, that's what i mean 14.25.42 # LinusN: do as you wish 14.31.29 # gotta go now. bye! 14.31.36 # bye linus 14.31.40 Part LinusN 14.37.54 # mail 1: "I gotta say: you fucking rule!" 14.38.03 # mail 2: "Certain elements in this email have failed a MAILSWEEPER test." 14.38.06 # :-) 14.38.21 # 14.42.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.45.42 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.49.13 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2710.pppool.de) 14.50.27 # Zagor: It was you who gave me the hint with gperf, wasn't it? 14.50.49 # uhm no, i don't think so. 14.50.54 # I did 14.51.00 # oh, cool 14.51.46 # The problem is that I don't know whether I can make it create a hash like function _without_ storing strings at all 14.52.26 # well I have no idea 14.52.42 # ok. 14.53.05 # I'm mainly aware of the tool, not very much on any details on how to use it 14.53.20 Nick Bagder2 is now known as Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.53.27 # I've investigated and although the tool is great it doesn't solve my problem: I want to get rid of the string table. 14.54.23 # But that problem isn't urgent - I might consider it later. 15.21.24 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.31.33 Join Okidoki [0] (~d43abeba@chat.ircnet.org) 15.32.25 # Hi, does anybody know why I am getting the message: Could not Save, is battery empty ? when I use the new firmware? 15.32.43 # how new? 15.32.48 # Okidoki: you probably have a partition-less disks 15.33.21 # partition less? I have formatted with xp.. 15.33.33 # I have used the latest build (this morning) 15.33.38 # did you ever partition it? 15.34.10 # well, it works without problem with the archos firmware, so I gues the partition is ok 15.34.40 # I previously had the problem that my dirs and filenames were unreadable, but with the latest builds that is solved btw 15.35.11 # Okidoki: that's not the issue. the question is if you have a proper partition or the whole disk formatted as a huge floppy (which windows likes to do) 15.35.30 # without a partition table, there is no place for us to write our settings 15.35.40 # and you get that message 15.35.53 # I think the last one, how can I check that? I don't have linux, and what can I do about it? 15.36.58 # can you run fdisk in xp? 15.37.53 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.39.42 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.40.07 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 15.40.15 Topic "1.4 feature freeze" by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 15.40.29 # *shiver* 15.44.13 # hmm...how can I do that? isn't that only possible in dos? 15.44.45 # Okidoki: i don't know xp much. how would you normally partition a harddisk? 15.45.10 # with dos....but I don't know if xp allows that...let me see if that works.. ;-) 15.45.38 # or I should use a partition manager like partion magic I assume 15.46.04 # it would be good to know how to do it in xp. we get this question sometimes. 15.47.17 # one moment...I'll see what I can do... I don't want to format ;-) otherwise I have to record everything first and my laptop doesn'thave usb2 15.48.35 # fdisk doesn't work in xp..hmm 15.49.14 Join TotM4cher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 15.54.33 # maybe if I put it on a disk 15.59.27 # doesn't work either... aarrghh 15.59.50 # xp is so good :-) 16.00.00 # check with partition magic 16.01.18 # I first have to find PM then ;-) 16.04.44 # ok...as far as I can see has the recorder one big partition 16.05.15 # does pm display that? 16.06.40 # nope.. XP has an option for that...my laptop hd has 2 partions C and D, and the recorder has 1(primairy) 16.06.50 # ok 16.07.23 # that should be ok right? 16.07.29 # yes 16.08.29 # Okidoki> private message! 16.13.26 # thanks! 16.17.05 # but as far as I can see I have 1 partition... so what can I do now? sell my recorder ;-)) 16.17.44 Quit TotM4cher () 16.18.27 # wait & see with pm 16.18.27 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.19.04 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 16.19.44 # Okidoki: 16.42.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.52.46 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 16.54.58 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 16.55.25 # Hmm... I have set the partition active now, lets see what happens 16.57.33 Part Bagder 16.58.19 # another questin, why remains the rockbox logo so long on the screen? 17.00.29 # can the 6000 do any fun graffix? 17.00.32 # still have the save failed message 17.00.35 # or just the recorder 17.09.50 Quit Okidoki ("http://chat.ircnet.org/ (EOF)") 17.12.11 # panthar: 6000 can do some fun stuff, but only by redefining the lcd characters. 17.12.33 Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.12.45 # ah 17.12.47 # hm 17.12.56 # * panthar looks at flea markets for a recorder... 17.13.32 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 17.13.50 # morning all 17.14.46 # this will work on a 20 gig recorder? the usb 2.0 one? 17.14.52 # * panthar is on ebay looking for a new toy 17.17.33 # this? as in rockbox? 17.18.08 # course :) 17.18.35 # yes, it works on the 20 gig recorder... and all other AJBR models 17.18.57 # hm 17.19.04 # i see one for < $200 on ebay 17.19.08 # 20 gig USB2.0 17.19.23 # panthar: the rec20 is the model to have 17.19.44 # that seems like a good price too 17.20.06 # yup 17.20.22 # not even opened 17.20.23 # i have to go. see you later. 17.20.23 # nice 17.20.24 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 17.25.05 # bye all 17.25.14 Part bobTHC 17.31.01 Quit TotMacher () 17.51.30 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2412.pppool.de) 18.03.16 # arrgh - the archos website must need internet exploder or something 18.03.42 Quit pyvasene ("Leaving...") 18.09.40 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.10.08 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.39.33 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 18.42.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.19.01 # is anyone able to navigate the archos site? 19.19.57 # mozilla, opera, netscape === not work 19.26.22 Join Django [0] (~Django@pD953C905.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.31.36 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 19.42.51 # http://www.archos.com/lang=en/home.html?country=us 19.42.52 # works for me 19.46.07 Nick Django is now known as Django|eat (~Django@pD953C905.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.46.51 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.20 Join norm_ [0] (~norm@ottawa.linuxcare.com) 19.48.51 # Anybody here who can answer a simple question about an Archos recorder? 19.50.07 Nick Django|eat is now known as Django (~Django@pD953C905.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.08 # try 19.50.38 # There are two jacks on the top of the unit 19.50.41 # Ear and digital in/out 19.50.46 Quit mecraw12 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.50.51 # yes 19.51.03 # It's my understanding that the digital in/out should work as a line-out 19.51.41 # I don't think so. 19.52.08 # It is a SP/DIF interface, not analog. 19.52.57 # You would need a special converter to be able to convert this to an analog lineout 19.52.59 # ? 19.53.15 # Or an SP/DIF compatible unit 19.53.41 # Yes, that's what I understand. But I could be wrong :-) 19.53.45 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-44-117.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 19.54.03 # Have to go now. 19.54.10 # Django: thanks for your help 19.54.10 Nick Django is now known as Django|eat (~Django@pD953C905.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.02.18 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.07.41 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@D095b.pppool.de) 20.09.33 Quit langhaarrocker (Client Quit) 20.28.39 Join radhard [0] (~radhard@pD9E40F15.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.53 Nick Django|eat is now known as Django|tired (~Django@pD953C905.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.29.24 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 20.29.57 # Hi! At least back from work, what a day! 20.40.57 Join kezford [0] (~kevin@host217-35-31-208.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 20.41.10 # hey all 20.42.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.45.54 # I have a 'simple' question regarding installing the firmware on a Archos 6000 20.47.26 # I did the build, just as it says to do in the doumentation, and got the resultant archos.mod file (about 74k). I then copied to the hard drive (root, where the old one was), I then rebooted 20.48.07 # on reboot the only firmware that is loaded is the in-built one... do I need to do anything else when I install the new firmware? 20.48.35 # oo... forgot to say, got the source from CVS 20.50.09 # kezford: that all sounds correct 20.50.27 # kezford: maybe try a pre-built daily build and see if that works? 20.51.02 # Maybe you should wait for the 1.4. Sorry, can't tell you more, i've got a recorder. But if the old one works, maybe you should try different configurations... 20.51.44 # I'm not as familiar with the player, but I notice there are two versions... one for ROM firmware older then 4.50... are you building the right version? 20.54.20 # I have 4.53 on my rom 20.54.34 # (apologies for the delay in replying... just found out what may be wrong :P ) 20.55.20 # I am getting this when I do my make from the build directory: 20.55.23 # Updating dependencies for /home/kevin/ftp/storeage/cvs/rockbox/kevin/wps.c wps.c:45:18: lang.h: No such file or directory 20.55.38 # :S 20.55.50 # I think I will try the daily build :) 20.55.51 # thats not a problem 20.55.58 # it isn't? oh... ok :) 20.56.21 # btw... when is 1.4 due? 20.56.33 # ... or is that something I shouldn't ask ;) 20.56.44 # any day now 20.57.03 # they're just fixing some things and then it'll be 1.4 time i think 20.57.09 # the lang.h dependency error is because lang.h is autogenerated _after_ the dependency check 20.57.39 # ah right :) 20.58.04 # plus... I think I did generate the wrong version... sorry... my fault, I may have selected the old version :-P 20.58.19 # ... ok... you can shoot me when I have done another build and found out that is the problem :) 21.00.44 Quit Synthe ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 21.02.38 # _spanking!_ 21.02.49 # cool... helps if you build the right version :-P 21.02.54 # sorry guys... my fault :) 21.03.16 # np 21.04.58 # Did anybody here read out the contents of the original recorder-flash? Very interested in that *before* swinging around the soldering iron in my recorder ;) 21.05.42 # lol 21.05.50 # need backup! :-) 21.06.08 # well.. thanks for your help guys... look forward to future updates... this looks great :D 21.07.39 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084BC25.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.08.54 Part kezford 21.14.03 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 21.14.15 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 21.32.35 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 22.12.35 Quit TotMacher () 22.14.14 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bdcc7.pppool.de) 22.32.28 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.33.21 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.42.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.01.25 Quit Django|tired ("Client exited") 23.01.27 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 23.13.44 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 23.20.39 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.33.10 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 23.33.49 Part elinenbe 23.36.30 Join Okidoki [0] (~d43abc12@chat.ircnet.org) 23.36.49 # Hi, 23.37.31 # Anybody who can tel me how I should set the harddisk when I reformat it with windows? 23.37.43 # how to set it? 23.37.46 # whatcha mean? 23.38.34 # well, I have problems with the latest builds, the recorder keeps on asking about Saving problem battery fullenough? 23.38.50 # hm 23.38.56 # i dont have recorder 23.39.00 # at least not yet :) 23.39.08 # ;-) 23.39.52 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9E6F5F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.41.29 # any idea what the best way to format is?which type 23.43.37 # fat/fat32 23.43.44 # whatever it comes as 23.46.28 # my recorder (6GB) is formatted in FAT32 and is named JUKEBOX. You should create a partition. Don't format as "removable media" or something... 23.48.13 # isn't a partition always created when you had a apartion before? 23.48.52 # No. >=W2k has some other ways available to format a removable device.... 23.49.11 # hmm.I use xp, but now Ihave partition magic to test it 23.49.19 # would that be better? 23.50.30 # I think, partitioning the drive with one big partition and then format it with FAT32 should be enough. Thoug, no warranty ;) 23.51.01 # guarantee :) 23.51.08 # hmm..that is what I have now.... but I keep on gettng the save problems 23.51.42 # gonna try now...have reboot, bac later 23.52.01 # not even that ;) I did it before, but was just klick klick, wait klick klick. Dont remember what i've klicked. 23.52.23 Quit Okidoki ("http://chat.ircnet.org/ (EOF)")