--- Log for 08.10.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 8 days ago 00.23.48 Join Okidoki [0] (~d43abc12@chat.ircnet.org) 00.24.41 # ok..... I have set the partition to active..but stil have the problem: Save failed, is battery low? 00.25.52 # power supply connected? I've recently had a shutdown problem that had several reasons, as i found out later. One reason were dirty battery contacts. 00.27.00 # right now I have connected the power supply, still have the problem 00.27.24 # The drive shut down even with power supply connected. The best cleaning for battery conats is done with glass fibre pens. Also clean the contact in the jukebox (how old is it?). 00.28.02 # 2 months.. 00.28.15 # and even if the batteries are full, I still have the same problem 00.28.32 # btw...I have no problems witht te archos firmware 00.30.30 # Second thing i encountered after i disassembled the jukebox (you should not do that ;) was a broken PCB-wire. But doen't sound like that sort of thing. You have also save problems with USB/WIn/Linux? 00.30.44 # and btw, I can't go back to the directory structure 00.31.31 # nope, everything works fine when I attach the player... 00.32.10 # Hmm. Sound like rocking sw problem. Sorry, can't help you with that, since i never tried to record with rockbox. 00.32.11 # sory, recorder 00.33.04 # well, maybe I'll ask linusn or so tomorrow 00.33.28 # Yep. 00.34.09 # thanks for your help anyway 00.35.05 Quit Okidoki ("http://chat.ircnet.org/ (EOF)") 00.42.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.49.34 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 00.51.55 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.16.38 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 02.00.59 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-32-126.mia.bellsouth.net) 02.36.27 # have they announced the winner of the t-shirt designing contest, yet? 02.37.07 # last i heard they were working with the winner on a final design before they announced it 02.39.51 # ok. 02.39.57 # so nothing new yet.. ;) 02.42.42 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 02.46.04 Join Sherv [0] (~Catharsis@h00104b34588f.ne.client2.attbi.com) 02.46.08 # hey guys! 02.52.15 Quit edx ("later") 02.58.24 Quit radhard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.03.48 Quit Sherv () 03.20.35 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 03.53.38 # my joke 600 seems happy with rockbox :) 03.53.42 # juke 03.54.03 # i like how it asks you if you want to resume 04.08.10 Join Zuikan [0] (~Zui@cblmdm63-162-17-239.buckeye-express.com) 04.08.48 # is there a known problem with build 2002 10-7, with not playing all types of mp3's? 04.09.11 # for the recorder 04.09.23 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.11.17 # anyone here? 04.12.08 # just got the archos recorder, and would like to get some knowlege in programming it, would like to make a usb remote control if possible 04.12.51 # have fairly good knowledge with pic chips, and also PICbasic, which has usb commands, should make it easy to do 04.42.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.20 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@dnvr-dsl-gw34-poola245.DNVR.USWEST.NET) 04.53.23 # Zuikan: archos' USB is hooked to an independant dedicated IDE controller, basically... so the only thing it's good for is transfering files 05.04.09 # i see 05.05.23 # i see others have used the line in for a serial IO device 05.05.40 # could the Digital IO be used without tampering with the device? 05.13.42 # the remote control connector in the headphone jack is the input line of the serial port 05.14.11 # the hw mod just hooks input and output into the line in jack 05.14.33 # there's lots of talk lately of using the input line in half-duplex i/o 05.14.48 # which the unit itself doesn't need any hw mods for 05.16.54 # ok 05.16.57 # thank you 05.17.07 # what do you use to program the source? 05.18.02 # well i tend to create new files with cat... but i always edit things with vim 05.19.21 # are these for SUN? or windows? 06.27.01 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 06.42.49 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 06.45.12 Quit Zuikan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.03.14 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.13.38 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.54.53 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.55.10 # hey ho 07.55.33 # yo 07.59.29 # i am investigating the CPUAddr problem 07.59.38 # any progress so far? 07.59.56 # it's the byte swapping that reads an odd address 08.00.04 # ok 08.00.23 # unfortunately, that's inevitable if we want seamless track gaps 08.01.03 # i made a byte-reading swap 08.01.18 # it takes 25% longer time 08.01.27 # 50ms instead of 40 08.01.46 # maybe we can accept that 08.02.17 # I think so, at least now as a fix for this problem, and then we can think of improvements later 08.02.17 # saves us from address errors in the future, and makes the mp3 code a little simpler 08.02.43 # actually, seamless track changes may have bugged with the word based swap 08.03.04 # there was a risk of swapping the last byte of a track twice 08.03.26 # I'll go for the byte-based swap 08.03.33 # ok, so this change might actually fix two bugs then 08.08.41 # Bagder: how can i check out files from CVS from a current date? 08.08.58 # i want to recreate the build from sept 30 08.09.04 # cvs co -D "sep 30" 08.09.11 # or up -D "blabla" 08.13.01 # wooo 08.13.09 # it may not be the bitswap after all 08.13.42 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 08.16.29 # oh yes, the original error is a bitswap odd address 08.16.38 # the latest report is not 08.22.35 # okay.. this is starting to get really annoyi8ng 08.23.45 # Bagder: we may have a really serious bug here 08.23.56 # ugh 08.23.59 # in what regard? 08.24.11 # the last crash executed code inside the bitswap table 08.24.28 # smells like wild pointers or stack overflow 08.25.01 # that's not nice 08.25.25 # stupid damn rockbox site is still not accesible from eastern USA 08.25.52 # that is not nice either 08.26.27 # adi|home: weird indeed 08.26.32 # nods 08.26.36 # adi|home: can you reach www.haxx.se? 08.26.37 # rockbox.haxx.se right? 08.26.42 # yes 08.26.53 # i get to www.haxx.se with no prob 08.27.07 # weirdo indeed 08.27.19 # looks like a dns problem 08.27.23 # nods 08.27.29 # dunno where thought 08.27.36 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 08.27.36 # can you reach www.contactor.se? 08.28.13 # can you "nslookup rockbox.haxx.se" 08.28.47 # it seems to find it... 08.28.55 # i get 193.15.23.131 08.28.57 # as an ip 08.29.09 # that's right 08.29.31 # contactor is a no go.. "host unreachable" 08.29.32 # so its a routing issue 08.29.45 # the contactor one is very close to the rockbox one 08.29.47 # but its a familar from a nyc server 08.29.48 # while www.haxx.se isn't 08.30.34 # adi|home: what's the ip address of your machine? could be a bad subnet mask 08.30.34 # it seems to be a genuity server thats at issue 08.30.40 # not me.. 08.30.43 # im on a dial up 08.30.59 # and im not havnign a prob with anywhere else on the net (yet) 08.32.09 # fucking annoying is what it is 08.33.17 # try tracerouting to it 08.33.33 # did.. it died at the server in nyc 08.33.39 # ok 08.34.12 # so it might be operator related 08.34.28 # I mean, the operator the rockbox site is on 08.35.26 # p0-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net is where it stopped to be exact ;) 08.35.37 # traceroute to rockbox.haxx.se (193.15.23.131), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 08.35.37 # 1 216.194.31.242 (216.194.31.242) 138.102 ms 129.786 ms 119.843 ms 08.35.37 # 2 216.194.29.49 (216.194.29.49) 119.899 ms 129.797 ms 119.900 ms 08.35.37 DBUG Enqueued KICK adi|home 08.35.37 # 3 fe2-0.gw0.nyc.ny.metconnect.net (216.194.29.2) 129.936 ms 129.795 ms 109.992 ms 08.35.37 # 4 s6-0-4.nycmny1-cr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.153.77) 129.793 ms 129.899 ms 139.854 ms 08.35.39 # 5 p0-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.7.5) 129.946 ms !H * 120.053 ms !H 08.35.45 # hows that for latency ;) 08.36.06 # that's a modem ;-) 08.36.14 # *nods happily* 08.36.26 # but hey.. at least my net connection is free and _very_ stable :) 08.38.05 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 08.38.20 Part adiamas ("Client Exiting") 08.39.02 # hehhe hit the wrong server button :) 08.42.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.28 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 08.56.36 # hi mats 08.57.07 # hi, how's the release going 08.57.15 # slow :-) 08.57.23 # what's the prop 08.57.48 # prop->problem 08.58.05 # crashes 08.58.35 # aha. Can I help? 09.01.23 # matsl: have you hac any CPUAddr crashes? 09.01.26 # had 09.03.31 # Don't know. I had a crash while doing FF a few days ago but testing yesterday it worked OK again. 09.03.50 # cpuaddr? 09.04.42 # I'm sorry. I don't remember. (Are you supposed to write these things down ;-) 09.05.03 # no, just remember them in your head :-) 09.05.24 # head? What's that? 09.05.45 # the thing that is wrapped around your brain 09.06.24 # brain? Could we talk about this over a beer sometime? 09.06.34 # :-) 09.06.59 # While we were chatting I just tried the FF again and ... 09.07.18 # .. I got an IllInstr at 00000000 09.07.26 # wow! 09.07.29 # gosh 09.07.54 # It happend while FF over the end of a song. Just push that FF and let it run. 09.08.13 # lol 09.08.53 # how did you do that? 09.08.57 # vbr? 09.09.31 # Hmmm... Now it happened in the middle of a song. 09.09.44 # "If you stab a newbie in the throat, do they not bleed?" 09.09.46 # vbr. No not that song I think. 09.09.57 # "Yes, and profusely if you are lucky." 09.10.57 # matsl: which rockbox version? 09.11.31 # There is one thing though. I have a patch installed. A progress bar animation. I'll switch that off and try again. 09.11.59 # LinusN: Checked out a few days ago. I try to stay up to date. 09.14.13 # matsl: how do you do to FF past the end of a song? i can't. 09.14.23 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.15.03 # LinusN: I got the crash anyway so it wasn't that and ... 09.15.45 # ... what I mean is that I did an FF all the way to the end of the song and I didn't release the button when I got to the end. 09.16.00 # for how long? 09.16.11 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.16.17 # hi all! 09.16.26 # LinusN: For how long!? 09.16.28 # good morning... 09.16.47 # howdy 09.16.55 # Linus... is there anything left on the TODO list? 09.17.02 # i can't get to it obviously 09.17.14 # needs to be updated last i saw 09.17.19 # the TODO list that is 09.17.29 # matsl: for how long must i hold FF to make it crash? 09.17.42 # LinusN: I'm building a new version from the current CVS now and I'll remove my patch so that I'll test on the right thing. 09.17.50 # LinusN: A few seconds. 09.18.13 # i must try on my Player 09.18.17 # LinusN: let me test first without my patch. 09.20.33 # linus : my firmware version is 1.17i 09.20.57 # bobTHC: can you give me your AN4/AN5 readings? 09.27.30 # LinusN: hmmm, i see one bug in ff/rew that could cause a bitswap crash... but probably not the one reported on the mailing 'cause it's newly introduced... mpeg.c:1099 09.29.45 # LinusN: Without my patch FF is rock solid. So good news. My crash is my own fault. Bad news. If others have crashes then this isn't it. 09.30.28 # matsl: good to hear 09.30.38 # (rock solid = tested five times!) 09.31.13 # hardeep: which version of mpeg.c? 09.31.36 # LinusN: latest, i think, let me check 09.32.19 # yeah, latest... 09.32.22 # damn.. anyone see the links to the archos 20 gig on Buy.com? 09.32.34 # 213$ american for a 20 gig recorder :) 09.32.53 # god i wish i had a job right now 09.33.32 # LinusN: mp3buf_read could be odd if: 1) file size is odd 2) and we've loaded up to end of file 09.33.58 # hardeep: yes 09.34.06 # LinusN; crash would happen in the above case if you ffw just as loading is complete 09.34.18 # i'm reverting to a byte-aligned bitswap 09.34.45 # much simpler code 09.34.55 # Is there a way to check if this problem occurs so that we can verify that we have fixed it? 09.35.15 # hehhee new happy quote 09.35.18 # I don't know what to say, but I am speechless. Rockbox is by far the most impressive and incredible project I have ever seen. There are not many open source projects out there completly reprogramming a device. Rockbox WILL make the Archos Recorder the best portable MP3 player out there by FAR! 09.39.56 # http://www.archos.com/us/default.html 09.40.05 # someone check that and tell me if their site is screwd 09.40.24 # it is 09.40.26 # "up" key AN4 = 320 or 32F 09.40.26 # down key AN5 = 3FF 09.40.26 # right key AN5 = 180 18F 09.40.26 DBUG Enqueued KICK bobTHC 09.40.26 # left key AN5 = 260 or 26C 09.40.26 # F1 key AN4 = 198 or 18F 09.40.26 *** Alert Mode level 1 09.40.26 # F2 : AN4 = 26F or 25F 09.40.27 # lol 09.40.27 # badly 09.40.28 # F3 : AN4 = 3F7 or 3F8 09.40.30 # play : AN5 = 330, 328 09.40.43 # adi|home: but not if you use IE 09.40.51 # adi|home: they just changed their webpage... new link is http://www.archos.com/lang=en/home.html?country=us 09.41.01 # Badger: the url provided breaks even on IE 09.41.08 # oh 09.41.26 # bastards.. i don't use ie 09.42.12 # LinusN: Now that you had an idea of what might cause a crash i mpeg. Do you have an idea how I could get the crash so that I can verify your fix? 09.42.19 # odd.. hardeep.. if you go to us from their main page.. their link.. its broken 09.42.30 # and don't even try to validate it with validator.w3c.org. I did. :-) 09.42.45 # matsl: no 09.43.03 # i have all sorts of odd length mp3's and i don't get the crash 09.43.33 # heh, it's a timing bug... begin ffw just as loading of last data completes 09.43.45 # LinusN: ok. I'll focus on something else then. Are there other crashes? 09.44.01 # no 09.44.16 # I don't think this is the crash reported on the mailing list though 09.44.22 # Aha! So you fix and then we test and then we release? 09.44.27 # this bug was introduced last week 09.45.24 # i just committed a byte-aligned bitswap 09.45.31 # 25% slower 09.45.44 # fear 09.45.53 # laf, lets just fix the ffw bug 09.45.53 # not mush of a problem 09.46.53 # hardeep: the word-based bitswap could cause gaps between odd-length songs anyway 09.47.44 # is 1 byte even audible though? 09.47.55 # now we don't need to care abount keeping the addresses even 09.48.24 # hardeep: 1 bad byte corrupts the whole frame 09.49.05 # LinusN: ah, darn 09.50.27 *** Alert Mode OFF 09.51.27 # hmmm, i'm not all that familiar with an mp3 frame but is there something we could put in that byte that wouldn't corrupt the frame? 09.51.51 # manu mp3 frames have a CRC 09.52.36 # the particular bug was that a byte could be swapped twice, due to the rounding of addresses 09.53.17 # moin 09.54.03 # i could have fixed that, but i preferred to have the code clean and nice instead of handling dozens of rare special cases to keep the swap data word-aligned 09.54.24 # now it can be odd at any time 09.55.15 # i guess if the 25% slowdown is insignificant 09.55.56 # LinusN: a couple of places in MPEG_NEED_DATA were missed for the alignment check 09.59.21 # hardeep: i see it 10.05.15 # Morn 10.07.20 # okay, I can reproduce the ffw crash... let me try with your changes 10.09.48 # mbr: morning 10.10.05 # Hi Linus 10.10.12 # Had a look at my patch? 10.11.25 # I'm thinking about a timeout version of usb_acknowledge to get rid of the firmware -> apps call .. 10.11.28 # compiling... 10.11.43 # mbr: explain 10.12.05 # i 10.12.08 # hmm... 10.12.18 # Oh, sorry. I meant a timeout for usb_wait_for_disconnect 10.13.10 # you mean that the main thread checks for the disconnect message, draws the info, checks again... 10.13.15 # Redraw the usb screen in the function usb_screen() when the usb_wait_for_disconnect() times out. 10.13.35 # mbr: in which thread? 10.14.29 # crash not reproducing with changes :) 10.14.37 # hardeep: hooray! 10.15.36 # wps, tree, settings call usb_screen() and then block at usb_wait_for_disconnect() 10.15.52 # nice work Linus 10.16.26 # I thought, when this function returns after a timeout, then it coud redraw the usb screen and call again usb_wait_for_disconnect() 10.16.57 # 1) that function is called by several threads 10.17.36 # 2) The thread that calls it does not know if all threads have "called in", and thus does not know if the device really is in USB mode 10.17.43 # I mean an additional function, like usb_wait_for_disconnect_w_tmo() and use that in usb?screen() 10.18.03 # who calls usb_screen() then? 10.19.20 # 2) there could be a in_usb_mode() function in usb.c, that returns true if we are in usb mode. 10.19.38 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 10.19.47 # and usb_screen is called from wps, tree, settings 10.21.37 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.21.49 # morning bro 10.21.53 # morn 10.22.02 # mbr: yeah, in_usb_mode() could maybe solve it 10.22.10 # Zagor: morn 10.22.27 # pyvasene: do you have your recorder at hand? 10.22.46 # LinuxN : Yep 10.22.47 # LinusN: The information is already in usb_state variable. Only have to introduce a function 10.22.55 # mbr: yup 10.23.03 # mbr: care to do it? 10.23.23 # Yes 10.23.28 # pyvasene: go to menu->debug->I/O ports 10.23.38 # I'll modify the patch and upload it again. 10.24.00 # report the AN4/AN5 readings when you press f1,f2,f3,up,left,right,down,play keys 10.24.15 # mbr: great 10.24.19 # i tried the patch 10.24.21 # looks great 10.28.15 # LinusN : In order : AN4 : 18B 25B 3F6 329 0 0 0 0 & AN5 : 0 0 0 0 25C 18C 3F7 32B 10.28.24 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@dsl-2129324-231.ip.versatel.de) 10.28.33 # pyvasene: ROM version? 10.28.57 # LinusN : But the numbers are moving... Original ROM 1.26 10.29.28 # pyvasene: that's normal 10.30.29 # I hope this helps... 10.30.57 # it does 10.31.01 # thanks 10.31.19 # hardeep: do you have a recorder? 10.31.39 # LinusN: yes, rec6 10.31.44 # Schnueff: do you have your recorder at hand? 10.31.56 # hardeep: please do the same 10.32.26 # and also check the ATA info on the same screen 10.32.46 # hmm 10.32.54 # pyvasene: what does the I/O screen say about ATA info? 10.33.07 # ok so why do i have to let go of the menu key when holding it after doing one thing with it before i can do another 10.33.25 # PsycoXul: explain 10.33.36 # LinusN : ATA: master,Ox200 10.33.47 # pyvasene: thanx 10.33.48 # i.e. if i have keylock on and want to change the volume, i have to hold menu and hit stop, then release menu and press and hold it again to change the volume, then release it once more, and again press and hold it to press stop and turn keylock back on again 10.34.02 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084B43A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.34.32 # TotMacher: do you have your recorder at hand? 10.34.36 # huhu 10.34.37 # yes 10.34.38 # wait 10.34.50 # debug ? 10.34.52 # i/o ? 10.34.58 # though honestly i don't see the point of locking key combo's that are equally as difficult to accidently press as the one to turn off keylocking anyways 10.35.14 # what do you want to know ? 10.35.24 # an3 3ff 10.35.35 # PsycoXul: i agree. you should be able to change volume even when the keys are locked on players 10.35.41 # padr: 6e7f 10.35.49 # pbdr fbbf 10.35.49 # TotMacher: ata info 10.35.54 # 0x300 10.35.57 # master 10.35.59 # aha! 10.36.07 # what does it say ? 10.36.08 # what rom version? 10.36.10 # 1.17 10.36.15 # ypiipe! 10.36.20 # hehe 10.36.22 # why ? 10.36.41 # ah, a 1.17 10.37.04 # whywhywhy 10.37.05 # tell me 10.37.06 # not a 1.17i ? 10.37.06 # the diff between 1.17 and 1.17i is the ATA address 10.37.16 # ok 10.37.21 # could be more 10.37.24 # no ! 10.37.25 # LinusN: are you making a table? 10.37.29 # i have 1.17i !! 10.37.32 # sorry 10.37.38 # i ! 10.37.46 # damn 10.38.01 # Zagor: yes 10.38.07 # good 10.38.15 # also i notice that holding on and pressing menu doesn't go into the id3 info screen... does this mean it wouldn't be difficult to have order-based key combo's, i.e. on+stop act different from stop+on, or is this behaviour soley because the WPS/browser switches on keypress instead of keyrelease (why is that anyways?) 10.38.19 # AN4: F1 - 168 F2 - 225 F3 - 398 Up - 2DE AN5: R - 168 L - 224 D - 398 Play - 2DE, ATA - 0x300, Rom: 1.17i 10.38.31 # bobTHC: what ROM version? 10.38.48 # PsycoXul: order-based is not difficult, no 10.39.26 # hardeep: rom version? 10.39.32 # 1.17i 10.39.33 # ah, sorry 10.39.37 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 10.39.43 # PsycoXul: release must be used when having combo keys. otherwise F1 for example would jump immediately to menu and could not be used as combo key 10.41.38 # bobTHC: ATA address? 10.42.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.53 # ok, the voltage differences on the buttons do not depend on ROM version numbers 10.45.47 # TotMacher: go to meny->debug->I/O and press all keys except on and off 10.46.03 # report the AN4 and AN5 readings 10.46.28 # for all keys ? 10.47.00 # f1 : an4: 168 10.47.04 # except on and off 10.47.15 # f2: an4: 223 10.47.27 # f3: an4: 39a 10.47.46 # up: an4: 2de 10.48.03 # left: an5: 225 10.48.13 # right: an5: 169 10.48.25 # down: an5: 398 10.48.46 # play: an5: 2df 10.48.59 # but these value all change slightliy 10.48.59 # thx 10.49.00 # about 10.49.05 # +- 5 10.49.09 # TotMacher: that's normal 10.49.12 # k 10.49.51 # Zagor: how do we read the version number from ROM? 10.51.33 Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) 10.51.46 # LinusN: well, we don't :-) 10.51.59 # i think they store it at a fixed address in rom 10.52.11 # but it was a while since I looked at it 10.54.09 # was it ASCII or hex? 10.54.24 # i just noticed that the vbrfix program for win32 can remove vbri headers and replace them with a Xing header... possible workaround for the vbri bug 10.54.39 # LinusN: hex, i think 10.55.16 # LinusN: does the bitswap change affect performance? 10.56.28 # Zagor: 25% slower 10.56.40 # from 40ms to 50ms per 32Kbyte 10.57.01 # hardeep: i can parse vbri headers now 10.57.31 # LinusN: nm then. :) 10.57.39 # we can't expect people to run vbrfix on all their files just because they use Musicmatch 11.03.07 # true 11.04.03 # you know what could be a cool feature once we have write support: vbrfix right on the jukebox 11.05.33 # yeah, we need that 11.05.47 # especially when we add langhaarrocker's split editor 11.06.17 # we also need it just to add VBR headers to the recorded data 11.06.39 # yeah, that was the case i was thinking of... forgot about the split editor 11.15.23 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 11.23.51 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.27.14 # Zagor: I have found a link on the web page that's broken 11.30.09 Nick mem is now known as mem_lunch (~mem@host38-2.bluelabs.se) 11.30.15 # mem_lunch: where? 11.31.00 # Zagor: The page about the Linux driver. The first link to in-system.com don't work any more 11.31.05 # ah 11.32.19 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 4 minutes at the last flood 11.32.19 # * mem_lunch leaving for lunch now, see you later 11.56.37 Quit langhaarrocker (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.37 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.56.37 Quit pyvasene (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.37 Quit bobTHC (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.37 Quit PsycoXul (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.38 Quit mem_lunch (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.38 Quit Schnueff (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.38 Quit LinusN|lunch (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.38 Quit Bagder (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.56.38 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11.57.01 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 11.57.01 NJoin langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@dsl-2129324-231.ip.versatel.de) 11.57.01 NJoin pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@ns1.alcove-solutions.com) 11.57.01 NJoin bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.57.01 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 11.57.01 NJoin LinusN|lunch [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.57.01 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-44-117.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 11.57.01 NJoin mem_lunch [0] (~mem@host38-2.bluelabs.se) 11.57.01 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 11.57.01 NJoin Schnueff [0] (~mah@goedel.cs.uni-sb.de) 12.03.13 Quit notch () 12.11.46 # Bagder: still there? 12.11.55 # yah 12.12.07 # No lunch today? 12.12.17 # eating at home 12.12.27 # me to 12.13.34 # Bagder: there are some translations missing in svenska.lang. Do you have translation idea for the peak meter? 12.13.54 # no :-) 12.14.29 # bbl 12.14.29 Part Bagder 12.14.33 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.14.52 # toppmätare? ;-) 12.15.40 # ok! 12.17.27 # Zagor: That was the easy part. Now: "Peak hold time" (I'm not sure what it means in english so that makes it even harder.) 12.18.38 # "Topphålltid" ? Peak hold is how long the peak meter stays at the top level (it artificially prolongs this time to improve visibility) 12.19.16 Join tot [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 12.23.21 Join AaronD [0] (~Yepyep@66.81.88.2) 12.23.45 # what does the topic mean exactly? 12.24.37 # I was actually wondering when 1.4 was coming out 12.24.54 # AaronD: soon, hopefully this week 12.24.57 # so much has been added since 1.3 and it's getting so cool 12.25.08 # Zagor: "Peak release" -> "Toppsläppning" ;-) (Hmm... It won't be easy to use the swedish version ;-) 12.25.18 # hehe 12.25.28 # oh ok, thats cool for the people who dont try dailey builds, I dont mind so much though :) 12.25.37 # AaronD: :-) 12.26.10 # if the chart says OK all the way accross I download the lattest build 12.26.47 # that's the brave way :-) 12.27.07 # dont scare me, I might not do it anymore 12.27.15 # is there a real danger? 12.27.20 # hehe, no 12.27.35 # my player has screwed up all on its own a few times 12.27.47 # you might see a few more bugs than otherwise, but no hazards 12.28.03 # almost seems to have crashed my system too but Im not sure if that was caused by something else or not 12.28.35 # thats alright, as long as it plays, very nice that it doesnt repeat forever anymore 12.28.52 # just when I was thinking it was going to be impossible it was added 12.28.55 # yeah. that took us a while... 12.29.29 # I dont understand why it wants me to push on when it reaches the end 12.29.39 # but it works so I dont really care :) 12.29.58 # we'll probably remove that. it's for historical reasons 12.30.13 Quit tot () 12.30.19 # hmm interesting 12.31.10 # I stupidly reformated my player recently cause my system was having trouble recognizing it 12.32.23 # then it turned out it was the system which is what I though anyway, and the hard drive I had the mp3s on got screwed so Im stuck with old mp3s I burned to CDs years ago :) 12.32.26 Join tot [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 12.32.58 # this all happened a few weeks ago too 12.33.13 # bad luck 12.33.16 # I hope its not the player 12.33.27 # I have a feeling it is the hard drive 12.34.37 # Im going to replace it under my best buy plan 12.35.06 # sounds like a good idea 12.35.14 # I had it covered while plugged in and it got really hot and the buttons got a little messed up :) 12.35.26 # actualy other than one button its fine 12.35.31 # ouch 12.35.38 # kind of using it as an excuse to get a new one 12.35.54 # just need to find the original batteries 12.36.34 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.37.50 # oops sorry 12.38.12 # you didnt really want to know all that 12.38.38 # Its late and Im wired 12.40.50 # :-) no problem 12.41.16 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.42.15 # hey linus how goes it? 12.42.56 # fine 12.42.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.43.32 # coo 12.46.10 Quit Zagor (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.47.30 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 12.52.56 # Zagor: can you update your CVS and rebuild? 12.53.49 # ok 12.56.17 Nick mem_lunch is now known as mem (~mem@host38-2.bluelabs.se) 13.05.22 # Zagor: ready? 13.05.56 Quit AaronD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.06.13 # yup 13.06.23 # try the new debug menu 13.07.37 # what's new? 13.07.46 # hw debug 13.07.49 # hw info 13.08.21 # i don't see it 13.08.26 # Player? 13.08.37 # should I run player? 13.08.39 # no 13.08.47 # i don't 13.09.40 # i see it at the bottom: View HW info 13.10.08 # uh, i'm silly 13.10.16 # ok, got it 13.10.27 # ROM: 1.24, usb: negative, ata: 0x200 13.10.53 # rock'n roll 13.10.53 # looks about right 13.11.14 # great 13.11.18 # let me add more stuff now 13.15.14 # any recorder owners here that can run a test for me? 13.15.36 # Zagor: update, rebuild and test 13.19.10 # LinusN: mas: 0x0102 13.19.13 # mask 13.20.35 # interesting 13.20.42 # i have 0x0302 13.20.54 # what is it? 13.21.30 # i believe that is a hardware compatibility bit mask 13.21.36 # ah 13.21.55 # the firmware reads it and does a lot of shifting 13.22.14 # brb 13.22.15 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 13.26.06 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 13.27.33 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 13.31.34 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 13.32.54 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 13.34.46 Quit tot () 13.35.02 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084B43A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.07.39 Nick Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 14.08.32 # Zagor: try again 14.11.07 # PR: positive 14.11.56 # ok 14.12.31 # 3.18 doesn't have version info in ROM 14.12.34 # :-) 14.12.48 Join Bagder2 [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.12.52 # yeeelllooooowwww 14.12.55 # lovely 14.13.42 # yikes, it's been yellow all day 14.13.50 # yeps 14.14.06 # we need a build bot to come and nag us here in irc :-) 14.14.16 # yeps ;-) 14.14.24 # in upper case ;-) 14.15.12 # haha 14.15.45 # * LinusN looks the other way 14.16.25 # the bot could kick the user who caused the yellow ;-) 14.18.30 # Bagder2: update CVS, rebuild and run 14.18.49 # and try the debug->View HW info screen 14.19.07 # yes sir, will do sir! 14.21.03 # anything particular you'd like to know? 14.22.01 # ROM: 1.25, Mask: 0x302, USB: positive, ATA: 0x200, PR: positive 14.22.54 # thx 14.23.03 # TotMacher: care to do the same? 14.23.22 # what ? 14.23.39 # update CVS, rebuild and run 14.23.45 # i dont have a build environment 14.23.48 # Me too? 14.23.49 # ok 14.23.58 # mbr: please do 14.24.27 # TotMacher: download the latest bleeding edge build 14.24.39 # ROM: 1.28, Mask: 0x302, USB: positive, ATA: 0x200, PR: positive 14.24.47 # what's the PR? 14.25.02 # it's a control signal for the recirding DMA interface 14.25.15 # ok 14.25.24 # k 14.25.27 # what ? 14.25.44 # rom 1.18 14.25.50 # mask 0x0002 14.25.57 # usb negative 14.26.02 # ata 0x300 14.26.07 # pr negative 14.26.39 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.26.41 # interesting 14.26.48 # 1.17i says 1.18 in ROM 14.26.56 # hehe 14.27.36 # but, have i now voided my warranty ? my jukebox said: debug (keep out!) 14.27.41 # *g* 14.27.44 # :-) 14.27.46 # * Bagder2 grins 14.28.11 # who works on the osc ? 14.28.49 # langhaarrocker 14.29.42 # langhaarrocker ! 14.29.44 # * TotMacher slaps langhaarrocker around a bit with a large trout 14.41.04 Quit TotMacher () 14.41.39 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084B43A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.43.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.47.34 Quit TotMacher () 14.54.42 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip113.rsidus.riege.de) 14.56.04 Quit Bagder2 (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.56.04 NSplit brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 14.56.04 Quit Hadaka (brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14.56.16 NHeal brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net 14.56.16 NJoin Bagder2 [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.56.16 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 14.59.47 # splits R us 14.59.52 Nick Bagder2 is now known as Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 15.08.27 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 15.08.33 # morning all. 15.08.37 # hey ho 15.09.53 # yo 15.10.14 # what does the new wordswap do that was committed? 15.11.02 # it handles odd addresses and odd lengths 15.11.53 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD95888E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.12.16 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.12.22 # Hej! 15.12.32 # hej 15.12.40 # and that was a big error before? 15.12.48 # elinenbe: it caused crashes 15.13.32 # anyone tried my patch for converting underscores to spaces? 15.14.21 # out of curiosity, why would you want that? 15.14.30 # freshmaker: i'm not too happy about that either 15.15.10 # hmm, i have my mp3 files stored using path names w/o spaces. 15.15.25 # freshmaker: why that? 15.15.46 # some rippers do that naming by default 15.16.10 # ok, you have -print0 and xarg-0, but if need more shell scripting you're better of with names w/o spaces 15.16.50 # or use " 15.17.08 # for shell scripting, I agree spaces cause much problems 15.17.12 # i think, it wouldn't hurt to convert all underscores to spaces in file filter mp3 only mode 15.17.25 # it would 15.17.38 # example? 15.17.39 # the you may end up with identical file names 15.17.49 # ouch, right. 15.17.58 # my_file will be the same as "my file" 15.18.28 # i think a file name is a file name 15.18.42 # i agree 15.18.52 # if you choose to use underscore, that is what it shows 15.19.32 # i like marcus' USB status patch 15.19.41 # and when you have foobar.mp3 and foobar.m3u ? 15.19.59 # different extensions and different icons 15.20.23 # the extension is not displayed in mp3 only mode 15.20.32 # but the icon is 15.20.40 # LinusN: really? Do you think the timeout makes sens? 15.20.52 # seems to work 15.20.53 # mp3 only mode is more a music browser, not a file viewer, imho 15.21.35 # freshmaker: if you don't like underscores, don't use underscores. what's next, automated upper/lower-casing of filenames? 15.21.48 # Zagor: great idea! 15.21.50 # :-) 15.22.02 # maybe on-the-fly translation of filenames 15.22.06 # :) 15.22.16 # ahh, case handling on dos filesystems is always a pain in the ass. 15.22.19 # freshmaker: i see your point 15.22.29 # but i'm not sure i like it 15.22.51 # (maybe that's because i don't have lots of underscored names) 15.22.59 # i see his problem too, but I don't think Rockbox should solve it 15.23.32 # The SonicBlue Rio Riot has a "The" filter 15.23.39 # cute 15.23.48 # which removes "The" from the front of filenames... 15.23.50 # but not when playing songs from the group 'the the' :) 15.23.59 # :-) 15.24.17 # that'll teach people to not listen to such groups ;-P 15.25.38 # at least, we already have name collisions: foobar.mp3, foobar.mp2, foobar.mpa; all are 'foobar' in mp3 only mode and have the same icon. 15.26.11 # freshmaker: oops 15.26.31 # * LinusN hides 15.27.52 # Actually, i think some people would like an underscore and First Letter Uppercase option... 15.28.14 # yeah, and others want fluffy bunnies on the wps too 15.28.48 # Is there a reason why the directory is not restored when rockbox resumes? 15.28.50 # I do! 15.29.02 # i much rather display all extensions than start fscking upp filenames 15.30.20 # mbr: what? 15.30.58 # when I resume a song and then change to dir browser i get the root directory. 15.31.18 # Not the directory the song or playlist is in. 15.31.53 # I mean resume on power on. 15.32.16 # mbr: and the follow playlist option? 15.32.37 # LinusN: Ups, what is that? 15.33.07 # general settings->file view->follow playlist 15.33.37 # * mbr gets red 15.35.20 # Zagor: agreed on the extensions 15.35.57 # i still think, it's ok for mp3 only mode to optionally omit the extension and/or convert underscores and/or do the Uppercase Thing. The music browser (mp3 only mode) and the file browser (all files) simply have different semantics. 15.37.08 # Zagor: do we want the USB status in 1.4? 15.37.14 # i do 15.37.21 # how safe is it? 15.37.30 # looks pretty safe 15.37.35 # * Bagder points to the topic, and then runs away 15.37.38 # check it out 15.37.53 # * LinusN hits Bagder with a looooong stick 15.38.04 # ouch 15.38.13 # i'm sceptical. it doesn't add a critical feature 15.38.27 # Zagor: agreed, we can live without it 15.38.46 # thought it's quite useful for usb battery operation 15.38.50 # ok, i have to go to work. there is a wlan to be IPSeced. cu 15.39.01 # see ya freshmaker 15.39.11 # elinenbe: you there? 15.39.13 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020914]") 15.39.28 # bbl 15.39.30 Part Bagder 15.39.48 # LinusN: I am here. 15.40.18 # you have a recorder? 15.40.22 # yeah. 6k 15.40.48 # run the latest bleeding edge build 15.40.52 # okay. 15.41.58 # give me one min. 15.45.07 # ok 15.45.24 # go to menu->debug->view hw info 15.45.42 # k 15.46.28 # ok 15.46.36 # ROM: 1.15 15.46.44 # MASK: 0x0002 15.46.50 # USB: negative 15.46.57 # ATA: 0x300 15.47.04 # PR: negative 15.49.35 # 1.15!!! 15.49.35 # what version does the boot screen say? 15.49.35 # bug: on the F2 quickscreen, the shufflemode jumps. 15.49.35 # what is 1.15 15.49.35 # 1.09 15.49.40 # oh... wait 1.17ia 15.49.52 # elinenbe: doesn't jump for me 15.50.24 # elinenbe: how do you mean jumps? 15.51.09 # the text that says Shuffle Mode moves! 15.51.37 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.51.37 # my default font is smalltalkmonotight.fnt 15.51.37 # elinenbe: what font do you have? 15.52.20 # it does not jump with the default font 15.52.39 # ?? the f2 screen always use the default font 15.52.57 # also, with some of the fonts, (not the default font) the text runs right into the icons in the tree browser. 15.53.03 # it would be nicer with 1 space there. 15.53.12 # yes 15.53.14 # Zagor: I know. But it is the default font that jumps. 15.53.21 # elinenbe: i see it now 15.53.52 # only that text does it too.... and it isa kind of... eh... interesting! 15.53.55 # i think it gets the font height _after_ the first screen redraw 15.54.28 # yes, it gets it after the setfont() call 15.54.55 # fixing... 15.55.03 # before, you mean 15.55.16 # i mean that 15.56.23 # committed 15.56.57 # anyone wanna sell me a recorder 20 for $50? 15.57.16 # panthar: every day :-) 15.57.22 # panthar: I have a few extra that I am selling for $25 a piece. 15.57.26 # heh 15.57.27 # i wish :) 15.57.37 # anything under $200 is a decent deal right? 15.57.59 Join calpefrosch [0] (~calpefros@30.ip-net01.empolis.com) 15.57.59 # panthar: sounds like a good deal, yeah 15.58.11 # i am itching to upgrade from my ole juke 6000 15.58.43 # hi 15.58.53 # froggy!!!!! 15.58.56 # hi 15.59.03 # hehe 15.59.03 # but the rockbox does work well on the 6000 15.59.26 # LinusN: are you going to make a lookup table for button values based on ROMs? 15.59.53 # I read the last Mail from Andreas Stemmer, does anybody know if he is on irc ? 15.59.58 # elinenbe: i was thinking about it, but the ROM version does not tell it all 16.00.09 # gotta go now! cu all! 16.00.24 Part LinusN 16.01.48 # Uh, my statusbar patch made it the half way to cvs :) 16.02.11 # Linus accidently commited a part of it 16.02.42 # nice:) 16.02.46 # ehum... 16.02.53 # maybe will get some colors soon on the build table :) 16.02.59 # :) 16.03.00 # indeed 16.03.41 # bye 16.03.44 Part calpefrosch 16.04.53 # Zagor: Do you remove it? Or shall I? 16.05.47 # i'm fixing 16.06.42 # what about the mail on 'inverse display', the lcd spec has a command 'normal/reverse' shouldnt that be used? 16.07.09 # sounds like a better way, yes 16.07.18 # Schnueff: now THAT would be a great setting to have in a quick menu! 16.07.49 # yes, wouldnt be expensive 16.09.21 # btw, why has the ssd1801 spec a label 'solomon systech confidential' in its footer? 16.10.49 # evil secret stuff probably 16.10.54 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.11.54 # I don't want to know :-) 16.12.18 # hm the player lcd has no reverse display bit 16.13.07 # it doesn't have crystal area everywhere 16.42.03 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084B43A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.43.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.53.55 # What is left to be done for 1.4? 16.54.03 # Manual update! 16.55.21 # indeed 17.07.10 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.10.26 # * norm_ notes that the scroll bar does not turn off when you set it to "Off" in the F3 button menu 17.18.08 # norm_: works for me 17.18.54 # Zagor: I have Scroll bar: OFF and Status bar: ON 17.19.04 # I see the scroll bar at the bottom and status bar up top 17.19.28 # If I turn Status bar to OFF, I see both the scroll bar and the peak meter 17.19.32 # at the bottom? 17.19.45 # Both scroll bar and peak meter at the bottom, yes 17.19.49 # ah, you mean the progress bar? that's not the same thing as scrollbar. 17.20.10 # OK 17.20.15 # scrollbar is the one on the left in browser and menus 17.20.21 # Aaaahhhh.... 17.20.23 # * norm_ is clear 17.20.25 # Sorry 'bout that 17.20.35 # no problem 17.23.39 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 17.25.33 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.26.30 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 17.26.48 # hey badger 17.26.54 # howdy 17.33.40 # i have a very strange bug 17.33.57 # global_settings.statusbar==true, but status_draw still exits on that condition 17.34.03 # in the simulator 17.35.21 Part bobTHC 17.45.19 # cool persistancy hack 17.45.28 # thanks 17.45.32 # found a minor bug 17.48.58 # have you guys seen the chicago12 font I added? for those who want that iPod feel :-) 17.49.35 # :-) 17.49.55 # those guys already use the courB14 ;-) 17.50.06 # hehe 17.50.43 # actually, chicago12 is better than the iPod version: the original is monospaced 17.51.39 Join elinenbe [0] (~elin@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 17.51.43 # i wonder if we really need to keep the default.* system 17.51.55 # Zagor: I agree. Get rid of it. 17.52.07 # it's not really in the way 17.52.28 # I think it should what is "built in" to the firmware unless you load a file. 17.52.33 # then it should keep that. 17.52.55 # Bagder: there's a definite risk of bug reports "font file selection is not persistent, it always starts with wrong font" (which is of course copied to default.fnt) 17.53.21 # so the persistant ones don't override the default.* ? 17.53.37 # what exactly do the .cfg files load? Can they load .wps and .fnt too? 17.53.40 # no, default.* takes precedence 17.53.44 # ah 17.53.53 # elinenbe: not yet, but they will later 17.53.55 # then I see your concern 17.53.59 # that would be nice. 17.54.16 # elinenbe: and then we'll have them per-directory and per-file and all that fun 17.54.30 # I think there shuold be no default.fnt. I sometime switch my font, and then I turn it off and turn it back on and it is a different font again! 17.54.33 # Bagder: it's nontrivial changing that, since the persistent files are loaded in settings_load, which must be ran before load_default 17.55.00 # i'm leaning towards skipping them too 17.55.12 # sure, but the loading afterwards could check for already loaded data 17.55.34 # its not big deal 17.55.39 # no big 17.55.47 # i don't think the default files add anything 17.56.04 # they do 17.56.13 # what? 17.56.32 # they allow me to select things by copying files instead of choosing stuff on the archos 17.56.49 # thus, for debugging etc it makes a swifter operation 17.57.49 # in that case we need to make them lower priority than persistant files, which is a little messy 17.58.00 # otherwise you can *only* change from usb 17.58.44 # just get rid of default.* entirely 17.58.56 # it confuses the hell out of mere mortals 17.59.21 # mere mortals won't be used them ;-) 17.59.23 # be using 17.59.52 # Zagor: can't you simply do settings_load() after the three *_load() ? 18.00.36 # Bagder: hmm, i guess i could 18.00.39 # for debugging purposes, couldn't you just overwrite the current select font/wps/whatever ? 18.00.45 # i'll fix it tomorrow, gotta go now 18.00.58 # bye 18.01.01 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 18.01.02 # bye > 18.08.22 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.10.21 Part Bagder 18.43.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.44.33 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 18.44.38 Part LinusN 18.50.03 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 19.07.10 Quit pyvasene ("[x]chat") 19.07.51 Part matsl ("Client Exiting") 19.21.55 Part langhaarrocker 19.47.15 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 19.53.27 # Quick question: are custom EQ files supported yet? 20.07.06 Join radhard [0] (~radhard@pD9E40FB3.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.15.25 # Oh. .eq files are now .cfg 20.15.34 # Never mind earlier quick question 20.28.00 # Hrm, is this a bug: "auto volume" in the .cfg file has no effect. 20.28.07 # I tried values "3" and "2" 20.29.11 # Mybe you should try it on voice files with loud and soft parts. 20.30.44 # By no effect, I mean that it doesn't change the setting listed in menu->Sound settings-> Auto Volume 20.30.46 # It does not influence most of the mp3 files, since most of them are full range from start to end. 20.31.08 # Ah, ok. didn't test that, sorry. 20.31.17 # * norm_ should have been clearer 20.31.28 # np 20.36.22 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 20.43.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.44.29 # Is the auto volume feature part of the MAS3587F? 20.47.08 # Don't think so. But you should look it up in the sourcecode. Or maybe the datasheets. Should be volume adjustment depending on sound level. 20.49.25 # radhard: I don't have any problems with auto volume working when I set it through the menu 20.49.32 # It just won't set through a .cfg file 20.50.49 Join Mighty [0] (mboss@h212n2fls35o931.telia.com) 20.50.54 # hello 20.51.58 Join Django [0] (~Django@pD953C895.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.56.48 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.58.52 Quit Mighty ("[BX] Homer Simpson uses BitchX. D'OH! D'OH! D'OH!") 20.59.08 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-47-0.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.07.32 Join tot [0] (tot@p5084B1E9.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.08.00 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.57.18 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.13.56 Join Okidoki [0] (~d43abc12@chat.ircnet.org) 22.23.02 Quit Okidoki ("http://chat.ircnet.org/") 22.24.02 Join breaker [0] (~mail@Ac60b.pppool.de) 22.24.51 # Has anybody tested a current cvs version? Here no symbols are displayed for .cfg files! 22.28.09 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.28.51 # breaker: I see an icon for .cfg files in 20021008-1622 22.29.11 # (on a recorder 20) 22.29.31 # yup, I added it today 22.29.39 # Hm, I've a version here where I changed some things. I've also a recorder 20. 22.32.29 # I usually only update the apps tools firmware directories. Where are the icons stored? 22.32.39 # apps/recorder/icons.c 22.36.38 # It works now. A "make clean" did help! 22.36.43 Join WS64 [0] (~WS64@pD9E40CCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.36.51 # hi 22.37.45 # hi 22.37.53 # zagor: linus said my queue patch would not be accepted until it works with a current playlist. 22.38.14 # Django: yup 22.38.25 # zagor: problem is, I don't know what you guys really want. 22.39.11 # Example: 22.39.24 # Django: it's easier to describe what we don't want :-) 22.39.42 Quit breaker () 22.39.43 # go to a dir, select a song. Then the dir from the song down is copied to the playlist. correct? 22.40.04 # no, the whole dir is loaded as a playlist 22.40.21 # we just start playing at index>0 22.40.29 # Ok. So the dir becomes an in-ram playlist. ok? 22.40.34 # yes 22.40.52 # When I now 'queue' a song, what should happen? 22.41.24 # Custom WPS question: Is "year" not an official ID tag, or why is it not supported (or is it and I just can't find it?) 22.41.44 # WS64: we just haven't added it 22.42.02 # Django: the filelist should be written to a temporary file, and the new song appended 22.42.24 # Thanx, Zagor. Don't forget that one! :) 22.42.39 # Zagor: Then I have no chance to get my patch accepted, since there is no file writing :-) 22.42.45 # WS64: check if we have a feature request for it, otherwise file one 22.43.02 # Django: correct. but file writing is coming soon. 22.43.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.43.21 # Django: the problem with queues without writing is that they become inconsequental 22.43.28 # (is that a word? ;) 22.43.52 # Zagor, just checked, there is one already... (should have checked there myself before asking!) 22.44.08 # Django: resume starts "bugging" etc 22.44.14 # zagor: agree. That's why I wipe out any existing playlist before queueing. 22.44.43 # file writing will go in very soon after 1.4 is released 22.44.55 # zagor: resume can't work for now. that's with I disabled resume. 22.45.51 # zagor: ok. I am not after honour and glory :-) I am happy I had the chance to add it but I am a bit afraid that there will be a collicion soon. 22.47.51 # Django: it will be partial collision, but only to make sure all features work as expected 22.47.51 # so i see the only thing on the TODO "being worked on" recently got comitted... heh 22.47.51 # zagor: I told here before that I have some real jukeboxes and I just can't live without the queue. 22.48.03 # Django: I agree, queue is a good feature 22.48.10 # zagor: because that is the standard functionality of real jukes. 22.48.16 # Zagor, maybe you want to add this link http://www.ws64.com/archos/ArchosUnlock.exe to the "lock" section of your site, it is a Windows program that creates a Linux bootdisk with the USB drivers installed. 22.48.21 # PsycoXul: yeah. we have a few bugs that need to be straightened out though 22.48.32 # WS64: ah, nice 22.48.36 # Since my Recorder did never lock so far I don't know if it really works though... 22.48.43 # haha 22.48.47 # heh 22.49.24 # Pardon my ignorance: what is a 'lock'? 22.49.40 # Django, http://rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html 22.49.50 # Thanks! 22.50.27 # a lock is what prevents you from opening/using something without a key 22.52.08 # You're fast, Zagor :) 22.52.18 # The description sounds frightening! 22.52.36 # WS64: :-) 22.52.55 # Django: it was pretty scary, but it hasn't happened in a long time now 22.53.02 # By the way: the USB driver says my recorder has a Hitachi drive. Can this be unlocked too? 22.54.16 # Django: yes, although I know of noone who has had one of those locked 22.54.36 # Zagor: glad to hear that :-) 22.55.04 # yeah, i've never had a lock.. and i've been following rockbox since the LED blinker heh 22.56.06 # PsycoXul: do you think you'll ever polish up that player game you wrote? 22.56.41 # i keep forgetting about that.. heh 22.57.17 # Zagor: is there a reason why I am not accepted for the mailing list ? Did I say something wrong ? :-) 22.57.39 # not accepted? 22.58.46 # Zagor: seems so. I send the "subscribe" email four days ago. Got the automatics reply instantly and confirmed subscription. Nothing since then. 22.59.09 # odd. what's your address? 22.59.10 # Django, did you send out the check already? :) 22.59.17 # django@nexgo.de 22.59.41 # Uh! shouldn't have typed that here . silly me ... 22.59.50 # :-) 23.00.16 # you're not on any of the lists. i'm adding you manually. 23.00.26 # Would it help if I send you a bottle of wine :-) 23.00.34 # Django, you're German? Köln here 23.00.36 # you can try ;-) 23.00.50 # ws64: this is paderborn. 23.01.06 # hoffmanntown *g* 23.01.17 # what's that? 23.01.26 Nick tot is now known as TotMacher (tot@p5084B1E9.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.01.29 # and who is hoffmann? 23.01.41 # Oh, am I wrong there? Not the home of Rüdiger H.? :) 23.02.46 # Oh, yes! Rüdiger. Hope he is not offended that he came not to mind immediately :-) 23.04.22 # Hrm, I just noticed that my "subscribe rockbox" didn't work, either 23.04.27 # Though I did get a reply saying it did 23.05.36 # Oops, I sent subscribe in subject field not body of mail. I suck 23.05.54 # CDDB sucks. Just converted my "Howlin' Wolf" cd to mp3 but only the first tracks have titles, then only track numbers. 23.06.12 # Django: you should use freedb.org 23.07.11 # Zagor: I have a hard time trying to get along with MusicMatch program. 23.07.34 # ouch! that program is evil incarnate 23.08.12 # Well, I got it for free with the archos. So what should I expect :-) 23.08.51 # Django: on windows, use EAC. on linux, use Grip 23.08.58 # You did already replace the firmware! Now get rid of MM! 23.10.21 # MM did the conversion ok so it is not all THAT bad. 23.10.44 # Gummersbach / germany here, just to complete the list ;) Yeah, MM is evil! 23.11.06 # well, define "ok" :-) it has a tendency to encode poorly, and toss a lot of junk in your id3 tags 23.11.37 # a lot of rockbox code is spent to work around musicmatch "features" 23.11.42 # By the way: when we get file writing, what about some mp3 utility like mp3 cleaner, volume adjuster, id3 editor .. 23.12.26 # cdex is probably a better win32 ripper choice than eac, btw 23.12.33 # Just discovered mp3trim which seems to clean mp3 fine. 23.12.51 # Django, yes, mp3trim is one of my fav programs for mp3editing 23.13.18 # Unfortuntely the batch-enabled version is $99 :-( 23.13.52 # rip with a good tool and you won't have to post-process your files 23.14.11 # $79.95 23.14.27 # Rip is not the problem. I have a registered version of Feurio. 23.15.05 # Yes, sometimes I BUY programs :-) 23.15.40 # whats Feurio 23.15.45 # i never buy programs. free software is nearly always better. 23.15.48 # What do you use for wav -> mp3 ? 23.15.54 # Django: lame 23.15.54 # i use lame 23.16.28 # Feurio is a cd burning program, specialized in audio CDs. 23.16.49 # heh 23.17.11 # http://www.feurio.de 23.17.20 # cdex does the whole process for you. put a cd in your player, click a button and you get high-quality mp3 files with correct names and tags. 23.17.24 # and it's 100% free 23.17.28 # hmm 23.17.46 # i just noticed lame's --nogap option... 23.18.53 # * Zagor should go into sales :-) 23.18.53 # PsycoXul: yeah, too bad it doesn't help much unless you play the tracks in the right order 23.18.54 # I played with cdex a year ago, or is it already two years? that version had no mp3 support. 23.19.15 # er 23.19.20 # Django: must be a long time ago. it's had mp3 support a looong time. 23.19.22 # Have you noticed any quality differnces between mp3 encoders? anything to avoid? 23.19.24 # cdex is just an mp3 ripping prog isn't it? 23.20.01 # PsycoXul: it runs lame for you too 23.20.01 # Django: avoid xing like the plague 23.20.04 # ok ok, at that time we were happy when out cd drive could read digital audio. 23.20.25 # out=our 23.21.26 # i see 23.21.47 # yeah xing sucks 23.22.01 # i've noticed even lame --alt-preset standard sounds better than lame --r3mix heh 23.22.35 # what is the current cdex version? 23.22.54 # 1.40 23.23.10 # i need to write a new script to rip with 23.23.14 # http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/ 23.25.28 # just doing the cddb stuff from a script is the hard part 23.25.46 # PsycoXul: why are you scripting? 23.26.17 # because i don't like anything out there 23.26.49 # and i'm a better bash scripter than i am a C coder 23.28.29 # last time i looked at grip it was a poorly done shell script mangled into C code for it's GUI and lacking anything resembling a design 23.28.57 # it's not elegant, but it gets the job done. 23.29.38 # it had a couple dumb bugs for a few of the things i wanted to do with it, and when i went to fix them i came to see it would need to be rewritten to do so heh 23.29.48 # i forget what it was exactly 23.30.33 # but it's source scared me away from ever using it again heh 23.30.45 # hehe 23.32.08 # right now i'm thinking of doing something with cdparanoia or cdrdao to rip the whole disc into one track, then lame to encode it, mpgsplit to split it out into seperate tracks, and id3v2 to tag it 23.32.28 # and see if i can get it done nice and gapless like that 23.32.54 # i just need to figure out getting the cddb info so mpgsplit knows the offsets and id3v2 knows what to tag heh 23.33.15 # PsycoXul: have you looked at freedb.org? plenty of info and tools there. 23.34.28 # i probably have before... 23.35.24 Part WS64 23.36.45 # anyways, i'll probably start rewriting my player game before i start on that... and don't ask me when that's gonna be :p 23.37.28 # :)