--- Log for 15.10.102 Server: brunner.openprojects.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 4 days and 11 hours ago 00.02.10 Join Aghnar [0] (~aghnar666@strasbourg-4-a7-62-147-194-44.dial.proxad.net) 00.02.34 # xam:re :) 00.03.29 # and sorry for the last time, i had connections problems :/ 00.05.43 # anybody knows why there are so few games ? 00.06.19 # i mean, because you can dev in C easily with GCC, many games should have risen ! 00.07.26 # I plan to make a little game in C, and i was wondering if grayscale (simulated with 2 planes of b&w) was possible on the archos :) 00.08.52 # I don't know, sorry ... 00.09.56 # one other thing, there is missing an executable format for application such as games 00.10.49 # hmm? 00.11.00 # because for the moment all demos and games are part of the firmware, it should be really better if there were a launcher for external program :) 00.11.09 # heh 00.11.26 # well you can make it it's own firmware and load it through the browser via ROLO 00.12.32 # yes but if i make a firmware which consists in only a game it will not be interesting for the user 00.12.56 # well yeah, you'd have to interrupt your mp3 playing and all that for it 00.12.56 # heh 00.13.27 # yes it is quite difficult to do :/ 00.13.55 # but some people are talking about loadable modules lately 00.14.03 # :) 00.14.14 # and possibly dynamic mp3 buffer 00.14.21 # and multi - threading :) 00.14.24 # :D 00.14.24 # which'll would make that easier and allow for some other things 00.14.37 # well i think we've got all the threading we really need 00.16.52 # one other question : is the .lang / .font files must be in the .rockbox directories or can be loaded from everywhere ? 00.17.04 # i mean rockbox will not be messed ? 00.17.20 # they can be loaded from anywhere, but they'll only be persistent if they're in /.rockbox 00.17.41 # thx 00.19.11 # anyone has calculated the pratical debit of the archos in download via USB2 ? 00.19.39 # i know it is VERY fast, but i want to know exactly ;) 00.30.09 # Aghnar they say "up to 12MB/s" ... at least it's written on the box 00.30.26 # that's not what i mean 00.30.46 # USB 1.1 THEORIC debit IS 12Mb/s 00.31.01 # USB 2.0 THEORIC debit IS 480Mb/s 00.31.17 # Aghnar nope, they were saying 12MBytes per Second with USB 2.0 00.31.23 # Aghnar IIRC 00.31.31 # okay :) 00.31.36 # Aghnar 480 is the theoretical maximun 00.31.36 # hmm 00.31.40 # IIRC = ? 00.31.46 # 480MBit/s 00.31.48 # 1.1 is 12mbit, and 2 is 480mbit 00.31.55 # If I remember correctly 00.31.56 # yes i know 00.32.11 # i think i get close to 12mbit on 1.1 00.32.15 # but the theori is not interesting 00.32.37 # Aghnar I know I wasn't USB1.1 and MBit, but MBytes 00.33.46 # Aghnar I remember that it was strange, because it was also the number "12" 00.33.53 # okay, 12Mo/sec => equal with my LAN 100Mb card #miam# :) 00.34.22 # i would guess that under reasonable conditions, you could get close to 60MBytes/s on usb2 00.34.46 # Want to see a nice cube addon? 00.34.48 # Agnhar I don't think so. I get 4, maximum 5 MBytes/s transfer rate with 100MBit LAN 00.35.33 # xam => sorry i'm always >10mo with mine :D 00.35.42 # maybe you have a poor DD 00.35.43 # Aghnar and the 100MBit is full-duplex 00.36.01 # yes but if your hard drive can't follow... 00.36.29 # radhard > a 3D cube Demo ? 00.36.33 # Agnar nope, it's just a crosslink cable. And even with my 100Mbit switch. Well, I transfer from linux->windows ... 00.36.46 # Yepp, just look into your email :-) 00.37.21 # it is a firmware, bootable with rolo ? 00.38.44 # I did some modification to Damien Teney's great cube code, he just inspired me...! No, it's patch, but i can send you a german .ajz, if you like. 00.39.12 # yes i prefer :) 00.39.39 # the user always prefer ready-to-go program :) 00.43.05 # You should receive it any moment. 00.43.35 # don't you have a website for releasing your latest demoS ? 00.44.30 # i have one, it is really much more better than diffusing by mail your betas/programs 00.46.25 # No, sorry. Also it is not mine, it is just a modification to Damien Teney's amazing cube-code, which he also distributed as patch/email. But nevertheless, that's a good idea. I'll think about it! 00.47.00 # Does it work and what do you think? 00.47.11 # i'm installing it... 00.47.48 # Yes, the user prefers ready-to-go but this is intended for the developer audience for the moment :-) 00.48.14 # great :) 00.48.31 # but there is some perpective error 00.48.36 # it seems to be 00.49.09 # Sometimes you have to adjust your eyes ;) 00.49.24 # lol 00.49.37 # good idea, you can control the cube's rotation 00.49.43 # no zoom ? 00.50.23 # If you got the wrong starting point, it looks like the rear part is at the front. Well, that comes with ne next version ;) didn't want to implement everything at once... 00.51.14 # erf, i have a beta version of rockbox 00.51.31 # Speed mode with all settings 1 but one setting 10 is awesome :) 00.51.42 # erf? 00.51.47 Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/1]") 00.51.54 # give me the patch so i can put it on the 1.4 version :) 00.51.59 # please 00.52.12 # You're on the mailing list? Then you already have it. 00.52.29 # no i'm not 00.52.37 # ok. one moment. 00.52.40 # it is worth to be on it ? 00.54.41 # If you are interested in the detailed technical discussion, yes it is. You should have a look at the old mail-archives. 00.55.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.55.08 # okay 00.55.32 # but i think that it is quoite strange that there are so few games 00.55.54 # because rockbox is quite old 00.55.59 # one year almost 00.56.46 # With a little luck I'll find my old hidden line algo. That'd be nice. Oh, feel free to write a game! There has been a snake version, but they threw it out, because noone put further effort in the code. 00.58.10 # an it seems really easy to code, there is already a gfx lib ! 00.59.06 # the line algorithme of the lcd.h is fast ? 00.59.17 # i mean ASM written, at least ? 00.59.25 # It's always a lot of time to develop a full working software part, like a game. 00.59.53 # Didn't look at it. I don't think it's in ASM. 01.00.19 # erf i didn't spend so much time on much more complicated games than you can make on the archos ! 01.00.30 # see there aghnar666.free.fr 01.02.23 # Nice! Well, I'm not that interested in games on the Archos. At least I want to use it as an mp3-player ;) 01.02.40 # i have also started to work on GP32, don't know if you see wha it is :) 01.03.13 # But if you want to write one, why not? I always appreciate new stuff to play with, as most of the others do! 01.03.45 # Sorry, never heared of GP32. 01.04.31 # it can also play MP3 ^_^ 01.05.36 # http://www.gp32emu.com/ 01.06.26 # http://216.167.73.47/~gp32emu/aboutgp32.htm 01.06.40 # Is this thingy available? 01.06.53 # yes for sure :) 01.07.24 # it has nearly one year 01.07.48 # ARM cores rock, we use them in automotive modules. 01.08.13 # yeah and it is overclockable at 133Mhz... 01.08.19 # ... in software ! 01.09.02 # Wow. Not bad. Is there a backlight option? 01.09.25 # no but the screen is really good, no GBA problem :) 01.09.45 # it can also play DivX ;) 01.10.15 # I've got a GBA here, the display is really worse. Hmm, what size of divx will fit on a SMC card? 01.10.24 # and tons of emus have been ported (from the master system to the super NES !) 01.11.08 # on a 128Mo SMC, you can fit one film of 100 min (don't renmeber exactly) 01.11.37 # you are german isnt'it ? 01.11.50 # It has just one major (and thus disqualifying) restriction: No Harddisk! Did you try it? Yes, i am. Lingo? 01.12.09 # Or just queried me? ;) 01.12.22 # No Harddisk! -> yes it is a console at the base :D 01.12.34 # Lingo? -> don't understand 01.12.59 # Did you figure this out through my accent or did you just query me? 01.13.11 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.13.22 # it is simple in fact 01.13.39 # <_seb_> hi everybody 01.13.44 # "No, it's patch, but i can send you a german .ajz, if you like." 01.13.59 # hi seb 01.14.11 # Hehe, ok, that's easy. 01.14.16 # <_seb_> Aghnar, are you in Alsace? 01.14.26 # yes in NAacy 01.14.30 # NAncy 01.14.31 # <_seb_> cool :) 01.14.35 # near Metz 01.14.38 # French ? 01.14.39 # France? 01.14.51 # <_seb_> no, American, but I've been to Alsace a couple times 01.14.56 # <_seb_> I was in Riquewihr twice 01.15.04 # <_seb_> radhard, where in Germany are you? 01.15.25 # Near cologne. A small town you don't know, i think. 01.15.35 # <_seb_> probably not 01.16.31 # About 50km east from cologne. Where is Riquewihr? 01.16.44 # <_seb_> It's in Elsass 01.16.52 # radhard -> i asked because with your nick you could have been french ;) 01.17.35 # So what is it's meaning in french? 01.18.16 # You are the first who wondered about my nick ;) 01.18.38 # radhard ~ radar (same in english :D) 01.19.55 # you don't speak french ? 01.20.11 # Ah, ok. In fact it means "radiation hardened". That is a process to make integrated circuits more reliable. Mostly used in military appliances, as you might have guessed. No i don't, sorry. 01.20.20 # <_seb_> Aghnar: do you speak German? 01.20.56 # yah ich kanne, aber es ist sehr katastophic ! 01.21.12 # <_seb_> hehe 01.21.25 # only 5years at highschool 4 years ago 01.21.28 # Ok, let's speak english here.. ;) Never mind..... 01.21.36 # <_seb_> no, let's speak german and french :) 01.22.10 # I don't know what my english was like after 4 years, but I think it's been really worse...! 01.22.38 # Hehe, Spassvogel! I won't understand a single word... 01.23.05 # how old are you ? 01.23.14 # <_seb_> jo mach dir keine sorgen, englisch kannst du echt gut :) 01.23.37 # Thanks! Aghnar_ You want to mate me? ;) 01.23.45 # lol 01.23.46 # <_seb_> Heh. 01.23.54 # just wondering 01.24.17 # np. I'm 29, no family and a good job. What about you? 01.24.28 # 22, student 01.24.39 # <_seb_> 16 :| 01.25.50 # and how many Go of MP3 ? :D ^_^ 01.26.17 # Enjoy it! Seb: Why :|, you have all this to walk through, and i don't think you have to fear it. 01.26.25 # many Go of MP3? 01.26.30 # <_seb_> Heh... I have 17 gigabytes 01.26.49 # Wait, I'll have to ask my refry, if i could have another beer. 01.27.01 # ?? 01.27.10 # refry=? 01.27.10 # <_seb_> I think refry = frigo? 01.27.24 Quit hardeep ("Killed by gemini (Requested by panasync)") 01.27.39 # =hard drive ? :D 01.28.07 # washing machine ? :) 01.28.27 # <_seb_> lc, are you another frenchman? 01.28.34 # <_seb_> *frenchperson 01.29.04 # i have 30Go of MP3, my archos is not enough :) 01.29.05 # yes 01.29.55 # refrigerator, short form. I donÄt have any mp3s , i beleive. It's just some music files. What is mp3? 01.30.15 # are you kidding ???? 01.30.24 # You're talking about 30GB, aren't you? 01.30.38 # yes 01.30.52 # Bytes=Octects in french ;) 01.30.54 # No, but if i tell you, you'll call the RIAA! And btw. I also buy lots of CDs.... 01.31.26 # <_seb_> radhard: 1. You are in Germany, not USA. 2. You can have legal MP3s, I have ripped most of my CDs to MP3 01.31.28 # Who on earth would have figured that out? ;) 01.31.46 # <_seb_> :) 01.32.36 # hell the SWAT won't come in your house if you tell us how many gigs you have ! ;) 01.33.09 # <_seb_> But I might... when I come to Germany for the WM 01.33.33 # It doesn't matter where i am. do you follow latest regulations? Well, it fit's my Archos ;) 01.33.41 # they should comme to mine. My flat has a lan with 1.6TB on it :) 01.34.01 # _seb_: Are you on the mailing list? 01.34.08 # ok, good night everyone :) 01.34.08 # <_seb_> radhard: yes 01.34.14 # <_seb_> aghnar 01.34.17 # <_seb_> good night 01.34.51 # Tried the latest cube path? I'd like to hear some opinions... 01.35.00 Part Aghnar 01.35.44 # I thought it's been a comment on your flat LAN ;) 01.35.57 # <_seb_> the cube screensaver? 01.36.04 # Yepp 01.36.10 # <_seb_> I only have the player :/ 01.36.37 # Oh, sorry. Never mind. 20G? 01.37.10 # <_seb_> Yup 01.37.31 # I thought 6 is enough, but you can imagine, what happened... 01.37.35 # <_seb_> heh 01.37.48 # You have holidays? 01.38.00 # <_seb_> today, yes 01.38.28 # I just wondered, what a 16 year old boy does in the IRC at that time... ;) 01.39.12 # <_seb_> well, I am supposed to be doing homework 01.39.43 # Hehe. Nice homework. Does it have something to to with internet and social affairs? 01.39.53 # <_seb_> No, it's calculus :) 01.40.11 # <_seb_> Do you have the recorder? 01.40.19 # Yes. 01.40.29 # Nice device. 01.40.30 # <_seb_> Do you have a player as well? 01.40.35 # <_seb_> Yes, I wish I had it 01.40.50 # <_seb_> Mein Vater hat fuer mich den Player bestellt waehrend ich vom Haus weg war, obwohl ich ihm gesagt hatte dass ich den Recorder wollte 01.41.00 # No, my account manager told me not to have a player as well... ;) 01.41.22 # <_seb_> I've been thinking about maybe selling the player so I can buy a recorder 01.41.32 # <_seb_> But I need to save money for college 01.42.01 # Oh, that's a bad story. Do you know about the 14 day return regulation with online ordering? 01.42.15 # <_seb_> No... 01.42.46 # <_seb_> It didn't really matter to me at the time, only when I found out about Rockbox I wished I had the bitmap display instead of character cell :) 01.42.46 # Ok, that's important too! And rockbox doesn't support recording by now. 01.43.16 # Yeah, that's indeed an advantage. 01.43.54 # <_seb_> I think maybe eventually they will lower the price for the recorder, and then I can buy it. 01.45.24 # Well, since I'm not on holidays, I think i have to go to sleep. Don't pull a long face, maybe you've got some time left for math ;). Yeah, would be great if they lower the prices sometimes. I dare for a 20G recorder ;) 01.45.51 # <_seb_> Ooh a 20G recorder :) war gut, mit dir zu reden. Schlaf gut. 01.46.28 # Gute n8! und viel Spass mit rockbox und deinem Player! 01.46.38 Join datazone [0] ([hONZ3zdHJ@207.136.36.203) 01.46.47 Quit radhard () 02.07.17 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@dnvr-dsl-gw34-poola245.DNVR.USWEST.NET) 02.22.10 Quit Synthe ("Connection Lost - Excess Blood") 02.55.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.54.46 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 04.07.17 Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 04.34.56 Join Synthe` [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) 04.35.09 Quit Synthe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.55.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.25.56 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.51.36 Join Zuikan [0] (~Zui@cblmdm63-162-17-239.buckeye-express.com) 05.52.16 # what are the bit patterns for the remote? 06.07.00 # or somewhere to get info on how to send data to the data port in the ear jack? 06.19.06 Quit Zuikan () 06.34.41 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA4BF.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.47.01 Join mecraw12 [0] (~mecraw@dnvr-dsl-gw34-poola245.DNVR.USWEST.NET) 06.50.37 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@dnvr-dsl-gw34-poola245.DNVR.USWEST.NET) 06.53.19 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.55.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.36 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 07.02.47 # morn 07.10.35 Quit edx () 07.17.06 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.20.03 Join Loser11 [0] (Loser11@12-231-162-30.client.attbi.com) 07.20.09 # Anyone in here? 07.21.23 # i'm here 07.21.47 # with rockbox can you shuffle all your folders or just one? 07.23.04 # also im getting a 20 gb archos record for 229$ is that a fair price? 07.23.16 # recorder* 07.23.56 # Rockbox can only play one dir at a time 07.23.59 # use a playlist 07.25.02 # $229 seems fair, but I don't know much about the price level in the US, i live in Sweden 07.25.12 # ok 07.25.15 # with a playlist you can shuffle the entire disk 07.25.51 # do you suggest archos over the other Harddrive MP3 players? ie. ipod and nomad? 07.26.05 # Yes 07.26.44 # rockbox doesnt freeze the Player like ive been reading happens on some forums and reviews? 07.26.47 # (of course) 07.26.56 # freeze? 07.27.27 # no i didnt read rock box froze up the jukebox the firmware that comes with it does 07.29.59 # how is rockbox better than the factory firmware? 07.31.06 # better features, better sound, faster 07.31.51 # it has better sound? 07.32.11 # that's what people say 07.33.35 # coo 07.33.38 # cool* 07.33.49 # (except this one guy who filed a bug report on the quality of the treble EQ setting) 07.33.51 # you havent had any probs. with your jukebox? 07.34.00 # define probs 07.34.22 # i haven't had any H/W problems, no 07.34.52 # except that my unit draws more power than many others when using the SLEEP mode of the hard drive 07.35.47 # some people say they had HD problems or the unit wouldnt power on 07.36.05 # those problems are mostly due to low batteries 07.36.59 # 10 solid hours of use with 1 charge? 07.37.42 # yup 07.37.47 # that depends how you use it. fuzz around a lot and it will be empty after 8 hours. play a list and you can get 11 or more. 07.39.01 # im getting mine tomorrow i think 07.40.28 # hey whats to keep players from overcharging with rockbox left idle 07.40.42 # nothing 07.41.08 # i see 07.41.14 # i guess i should be careful doing that then heh 07.41.20 # overcharging? 07.41.41 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) 07.41.41 # Loser11: don't worry, recorder20 doesn't have that problem. only older models. 07.41.48 # what happens if you overcharge? 07.42.03 # your batteries will wear out a little faster 07.42.22 # also does archos jukebox support wma files? 07.42.54 # Loser11: no, mp3 only 07.43.15 # dang oh well 07.43.25 # and the recorder 20 doesnt have overcharge problem? 07.44.18 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.44.34 # what about the recorder 15?!? thats the one i meant im getting the recorder 20 is 279 i only have 240$ 07.44.48 # does recorder 15 over charge? 07.44.53 # no 07.45.03 # recorders have fancy charging code 07.45.22 # oh, its only the players that over charge? 07.45.26 # PsycoXul: or rather, recorder charging is software controlled 07.45.37 # players are hardware "controlled" 07.45.42 Quit Zagor (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.46.05 # ok thanks for the help you guys! 07.46.46 Quit Loser11 () 07.47.54 # woo, looks like Zagor's computer died 07.54.18 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 07.54.28 # yo Bagder! 07.54.32 # morning 07.55.03 # LinusN: maybe Bagder killed Zagor's computer 07.55.19 # that would be just like him 07.55.30 # * Bagder looks innocent and whistles 07.56.20 # maybe not, afterall, he looks innocent 07.56.49 # what happened to zagor's computer? 07.57.10 # Zagor has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.57.17 # ah 08.00.40 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 08.02.02 # yo Zagor! 08.02.04 # reboot? 08.02.17 # nope. --- Disconnected (No route to host). 08.02.23 # i don't know why 08.02.39 # prolly a bostream thing 08.02.47 # yup 08.02.51 # it's been funny on me the last couple of days 08.02.59 # short glitches 08.03.10 # badness 08.05.03 # fun cube variations ;-) 08.23.21 # Bagder: are you going to commit the cube? 08.23.40 # once I've tried it I guess so 08.36.08 # i'll add that 8MB mod link to the mod page 08.36.21 # good idea 08.36.45 Join calpefrosch [0] (~calpefros@30.ip-net01.empolis.com) 08.37.01 # morning 08.37.35 Nick calpefrosch is now known as calpef[away] (~calpefros@30.ip-net01.empolis.com) 08.37.35 # morn 08.39.20 # ah, finally got the audio feedback working when recording 08.39.30 # rockers 08.40.15 # then internal mic is picking up lots of noise from the hard drive 08.40.27 # but i don't see how to prevent that 08.50.03 # hm 08.50.22 # why does my info screen pop back immediately? 08.50.48 # Because of the release event 08.51.06 # but that's anded away, isn't it? 08.51.47 # that AND operation is silly 08.51.58 # it just removes the REL bit 08.52.13 # ah true 08.52.20 # me fix 08.55.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.12 # we should always wait for a key-release, methinks 08.56.34 # in this case, we should wait for a key-down, and then key-up 08.58.13 # yes 09.05.18 # it now says 1.69MB 09.05.37 # it makes me want higher res on that thing ;-) 09.06.03 # I think that info page is silly 09.08.44 # well I like it for this purpose ;-) 09.09.45 # so when's the partition info thing gonna show free space? 09.11.17 # PsycoXul: that is a FAT issue, not a partition issue 09.11.29 # i see 09.11.59 # speaking of FAT issues, any progress on file writing? 09.12.01 # finding free space requires counting the amount of free clusters in the FAT 09.14.12 # PsycoXul: i'm working on file writing 09.16.03 Join Hadaka_ [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 09.16.13 Nick Hadaka_ is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 09.19.18 # Bagder: while codepolicing the cube, why didn't you remove the typedefs? 09.19.29 # because I didn't feel like it 09.20.49 # and the mixed-case symbols 09.21.02 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084BD70.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.21.04 # go ahead 09.21.52 # I don't see any point in enforcing every bit that strict 09.22.01 # so those who do may fix those flaws 09.22.15 # like Zagor ;-) 09.24.15 # anyone object if I remove the right-side column in CREDITS? 09.24.34 # put me in the credits 09.24.53 # what's your real name? 09.25.00 # Christian Sprajc 09.25.19 # Bagder: not really 09.25.22 # hehe 09.25.56 # TotMacher: and for what masterpiece should you be included? 09.26.16 # my gigantic comments in irc channel 09.26.39 # hehe 09.26.40 # okok 09.26.45 # have to work 09.26.46 # cu 09.26.51 # hehe, cu 09.26.54 Quit TotMacher () 09.29.34 # Bagder: auto-generate credits.c? 09.29.59 # yah 09.36.08 # hey how feasible would it be to support on-the-fly decompression of .Z and .gz on the archos? 09.36.14 # i.e. for reading compressed texts 09.36.37 # libz is big :-) 09.36.40 # it would make more sense to decompress it first 09.36.46 # waste disk space and save ram 09.37.19 # i see 09.37.45 # i'm mirror'ing this archive of 600MB+ of mostly compressed text, which i plan to throw on there heh 09.38.12 # i dunno how big it might be uncompressed... 09.39.08 # huge 09.39.37 # yes, that's why i wonder heh 09.40.25 # i suppose it might have to wait for dynamic mp3 buffer and loadable modules? heh 09.43.51 # or maybe with file write support, somebody could do a firmware that's just the browser, rolo, and a decompressor... select the file and it writes out a decompressed file then you can load the normal firmware back and view it normally... heh 09.44.37 # indeed 09.53.46 # hi all! 09.54.12 # can i use 4 caracters for month in my traduction ? 09.54.54 # i don't think so 09.55.07 # because in french it's on 4 car 09.55.27 # nope, you can't 09.55.52 # ok 09.55.53 # thx 09.57.09 # we should do something different to deal with those darned key release events 09.59.27 # what's the problem? 09.59.37 # it hits us in the face too often 09.59.49 # now I exited the cube screen 09.59.58 # and the release event hits the menu 10.00.07 # so I get two levels back on each exit 10.00.47 # so code should exit on a specific key, and not any key. i don't see the big problem. 10.00.56 # Moin 10.01.00 # it does exist on a specific key 10.01.03 # on the DOWN event 10.01.12 # and the release event gets received in the other screen 10.01.14 # so how can it be double? 10.01.20 # which exits on that specific key 10.01.33 # but ok, they should exist on the release 10.01.36 # exit 10.01.51 # debug_menu.c:175: `MPEG_LOW_WATER' undeclared (first use in this function) 10.02.32 # sorry 10.03.32 # Bagder: The "3-letter abbreviation for weekday" change is not correct. set_time supports at the moment up to three letter abbreviations 10.04.01 # bitch bitch bitch 10.04.09 # I doubt anyone will use less than the max for that 10.04.26 # German for example will use 2 10.04.35 # oops ;-) 10.04.36 # Mo DI Mi Do Fr Sa So 10.05.14 # bobTHC: what was your real name again? 10.05.35 # mbr: ok, I'll fix the desc 10.05.43 # OK 10.07.10 # we have a red build 10.07.39 # me fix 10.09.00 # Bagder: w32 build is your work, i think 10.09.12 # yeps 10.18.19 Join dug [0] (~navworks1@ppp-158.net-202.magic.fr) 10.18.24 # hello everybody 10.18.30 # hey ho 10.19.10 # is it just me or does the cube just seem off at times... 10.19.18 # like its not exaclty a cube... 10.19.23 # misshaped... 10.19.29 # I get that idea too 10.19.50 # escuse me, but everyone speak french ? 10.19.52 # :) 10.19.54 # but I'm not sure if its truly an error or just something that looks odd 10.20.00 # nods 10.20.02 # same here... 10.20.04 # dug: only a few people 10.20.08 # * Bagder points to bobTHC the frenchie ;-) 10.20.22 # oki, thanks 10.22.45 # ;) 10.22.59 # bonjor dug 10.23.02 # ok... i'm go in english... but it's dangerous :) 10.23.07 # ouff..; sauvé :) 10.23.34 # en fait, je voulais savoir rapidement ce que vous pensiez de multimedia 10.24.52 # I love this comment: 10.24.59 # "Don't hesitate to buy if you find another player whose firmware is hacked by a team of programmers and everyday you have another nice feature in your MP3 player. " 10.26.24 # hehe where was that? 10.26.30 # funmp3 10.27.02 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 10.27.05 # nods 10.29.37 Join MamaiWK [0] (~Mamai@lys.gltrade.fr) 10.29.42 # Hi 10.29.55 # Hello Dug 10.30.23 # hello MamaiWK 10.32.34 # dug: we think the multimedia is a cool thing, but we have no intention to make any software for it as of today 10.32.52 # it is a totally different hardware 10.33.22 # and none of us have one 10.33.43 # ok LinusN, thanks for you "reponse" 10.33.57 # Dug : answer 10.34.09 # de rien 10.34.13 # ah merde c'est con çà 10.35.03 # :) 10.35.06 # Does another project, like rockbox, is planed in the near future but for the multimedia version ? 10.35.25 # not by the same people 10.35.39 # Tient un Linus qui parle franchi 10.35.42 # but there are some people who wants to 10.35.50 # good 10.36.10 # does they already have a web page ? source code, doc ... ? 10.36.12 # hehe, right, but wants is not the same as can or will :-) 10.36.25 # MamaiWK: they only have 20 messages of discussion 10.37.55 # "only" means they are not enough request for further investigation, and development ? 10.38.24 # it means that they need more people, more skill, more time, more research etc 10.38.27 # MamaiWK: they haven't examined the hardware, they are only discussing it in general terms 10.38.45 # ok 10.38.59 # in short: everybody is requesting. nobody is doing. 10.39.15 # j'ai compris moi ;) 10.39.18 # they're all beggars ;-) 10.39.53 # update, back soon 10.39.54 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 10.40.18 # I think we could expect a new project soon dedicated for the Arcos, multimedia. It has is big potentiel, don't you think so ? 10.40.42 # * bobTHC commit francais.lang v1.11 10.40.48 # Dug, t'as plus qu'a ty mettre. 10.41.09 # c'est le debut pour le multimedia. Sa peut etre interessant, non ? 10.41.15 # :)... ouai, sans les docs technique, ça va etre dure... 10.41.27 # tous ce trouve sur internet 10.41.30 # pas trop envi de l'ouvrir le 1er jours ;) 10.41.42 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.41.44 # il faudra ce contenter de l'OS d'Arcos au début en fait. sachant que faire un os équivalent prendra un certain temps ! 10.41.45 # MamaiWK: yes, if there's someone DOING something and not just talking 10.42.03 # hehe.. 10.42.06 # :) 10.42.15 # wanna hear my judgement? 10.42.22 # yes 10.42.23 # MamaiWK: un achos mm... pour m'aider, ça te dis pas ? 10.42.24 # we'll never see a custom firmware for the multimedia 10.42.30 # please speak english here 10.42.44 # ok, no problemo ;) 10.42.53 # bobTHC: les docs technique sont sur le net ? 10.42.59 # it's not a judgement, its a guess rather 10.43.02 # MamaiWK: making a new firmware for the multimedia is a lot more work than for the MP3 jukebox 10.44.29 # I think so too. But a much exiting experience 10.44.40 # MamaiWK: docs for the multimedia? 10.45.18 # yes 10.46.10 # Were could we find the "only 20" discution thread about the multimedia jukebox plz ? 10.46.42 # http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosmultimedia 10.47.07 # no, wrong. sorry. 10.47.08 # thx 10.47.10 # http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JBMMFirmware 10.47.20 # the first is just a user group. 10.53.37 # xfree86 is a strangely closed club... 10.55.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.57.00 # move sokoban levels to an external file and just keep one level in ram 10.57.12 # meaning a data file to read levels in from as you complete the current level? 10.57.39 # Bagder: Question about new X11 key event code? 10.57.58 # adi|home: excellent ides 10.58.10 # matsl: yes? 10.58.24 # LinusN: i was refering to the todo list.. but thats the general idea, yes? 10.59.12 # only prob with that is that the data file will need to be on the player/recorder as well. 10.59.19 # no level file, no way to actually play 10.59.30 # Bagder: I think key repeat is making it hard to use. Can it be turned of for the simulator? 10.59.44 # I don't know 10.59.59 # adi|home: yes, that's the general idea 11.00.17 # Bagder: So I'm right in assuming that I must turn of the key-repeat to use it then. 11.00.49 # matsl: I don't need to do that, my key repeat isn't that insane 11.00.54 # so we are willing to accept that the user with dl a 'data' file onto their player as well in order to play? 11.01.04 # adi|home: yes 11.01.26 # .rockbox/sokoban.levels or whatever 11.01.53 # and we need a Sokoban Level Editor (tm) ;-) 11.02.02 # Bagder: Insane? You mean that you are fast 11.02.17 # meaning that I have no problem with the repeat 11.02.26 # now we use .rockbox directory to store lang & fonts , why not levels and hi scores... 11.02.46 # Bagder: have you tried the player simulator? 11.03.05 # nope 11.03.11 # why is that different? 11.03.37 # Bagder: i don't know. care to give it a spin? 11.04.08 # .rockbox/sokoban/levels.txt 11.04.17 # matsl: works fine for me 11.04.24 # ecept for the graphical junk 11.04.24 # and later on .rockbox/sokoban/hiscore.txt 11.04.32 # LinusN: fine with me 11.04.37 # Bagder: Hmm... Strange. 11.05.16 # someone will tweak the hiscore...if it's text file.. ;) 11.06.26 Join SillyFly [0] (~luk@212.199.219.19) 11.07.10 # can someone tell me what FONT_ASCENT and FONT_DESCENT on a BDF file mean? 11.07.28 # u thin the HP48games emul8tor is a good idea? 11.08.02 # bobTHC: could be fun 11.08.03 # Bagder: Sorry. I was mistaken. (about the repeat) I can get params in wps but when I use the arrow keys to set tyhe volume nothing happens. 11.08.51 # SillyFly: FONT_DESCENT is the number of pixels below the baseline the lower part of, for example' 'g' is 11.08.57 # http://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/doc/bdf.TXT :-) 11.09.06 # matsl: I don't understand you 11.09.24 # I have found a bug 11.09.47 # I have a dir with no working mp3 (all 0 bytes) 11.09.54 # ah 11.09.54 # no 11.10.02 # it's a simulator problem 11.10.11 # matsl: your xemacs has eaten 30000 cpu minutes so far on linux3... 11.10.21 # xemacs is evil 11.10.42 # Zagor: I'll fix! No xemacs is good. eating CPU is bad! 11.11.20 # its just that xemacs has a history of doing just that ;-) 11.13.34 # Bagder: I know. I'll feed it to the xemacs developers. Now there should be more CPU-cycles to spend on linux3. 11.13.51 # goodie 11.13.54 # * Bagder uses plain old emacs ;-) 11.17.22 # * Zagor is off for lunch 11.17.33 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 11.19.24 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.20.18 Topic "Rockbox Lunch Today. Special Price For You." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 11.27.49 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.36.39 # bahh... cpu-cycles should only be spent on seti 11.41.54 # 1090 units baby 12.32.17 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.55.17 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 13.11.18 # linus in the playlist_info struct 13.11.20 # filename 13.11.27 # does that include the full path, or just the filename? 13.11.58 # the full one 13.12.16 # ok 13.12.29 # any problem you think if i implement a %pp for the wps? 13.12.34 # sorry.. %pn 13.12.36 # playlist name 13.12.47 # was a feature request and its not bieng used yet 13.12.57 # shoot 13.13.41 # why do we have a playlist_amount function rather then just referencing the playlist.amount? 13.15.05 # because this way we don't give away implementation details 13.15.11 # k 13.15.22 # just seemed C++ish to me :) 13.15.26 # because the mpeg for example needs the info, and that's firmware 13.15.34 # nods 13.15.34 # we can't have the firmware knowing imp details in the apps 13.17.54 Nick Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 13.17.58 # int dirlen; /* Length of the path to the playlist file */ 13.18.13 # that basically is how many chars to the name of the playlist itself? 13.18.39 # "/foo/list.m3u == 5?" 13.19.17 # I guess so 13.19.31 # well.. find out in a sec :) 13.22.14 # do we have any problem making lcd_double_height a no-op on old players? 13.22.25 # instead of #ifdef 13.22.40 # I don't think so 13.23.02 # i'll do that 13.27.09 # Suggestion: Small change to status_draw on player. Now nearly all icons are drawn by status_draw. I suggest all are. Means. no more lcd_icon() from rest of code. Replaced by status_set_XXX or using other status vars. What do you think (I have the code ;-) 13.30.23 # matsl: the difference is lcd_icon() actively talks to the lcd controller. status_draw doesn't. 13.31.50 # Zagor: status_draw calls lcd_icon. 13.32.19 # ok, now i read what you wrote... sounds good to me. 13.33.02 # Zagor: make it easier for the player simulator too. 13.33.08 # makes 13.33.11 # yup 13.33.16 # shoot 13.33.34 # it's on its way! 13.33.51 # * Bagder buckles up 13.36.06 # if %pp shows the playlist name, should i include the extension or no? 13.36.16 # %pn rather 13.36.23 # I would guess not show it 13.36.32 # nods 13.43.16 # okay.. %pn added :) 13.51.08 # the uplang script dont updat the desc ??? 13.51.23 # oh 13.51.40 # uh no ;-) 13.51.41 # me fix 13.52.35 # i "uplang" the french.lang with the new one and only the new string have been added not the description update (for the 3 car max) 13.56.47 # * LinusN runs the same .MOD on both oldplayer and newplayer now 13.57.37 # r0ck 13.58.18 # bobTHC: fixed now 14.03.14 # am i correct that when we do have recording working we will not be able to record to other formats then mp3? 14.03.58 # correct 14.05.09 # okay.. so the record to wav feature request, can i close that? 14.05.29 # yup 14.06.00 # how about the Multimedia archos one you replied to.. can i close that> 14.06.00 # well, you can dream, canät you? 14.06.23 # NO 14.06.24 # :-) 14.06.30 # sure i can.. but what does your girlfriend naked in a vat of jello have to do with this? 14.06.55 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.07.56 # so, no response.. im closing the Multimedia firmware feature request. 14.09.41 # do so 14.11.36 # the set time simulator crash is the lack of rtc_read() simulation 14.11.39 Join vekar [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-665.ath.forthnet.gr) 14.11.50 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=623289&group_id=44306&atid=439118 14.11.54 # is _not_ a bug 14.11.56 # can i kill it>? 14.12.10 # yes 14.13.37 # in what unit is the year returned from the RTC? 14.13.46 # RTFDS 14.13.53 # I refuse to 14.13.55 # :-) 14.14.18 # thanks for %pn, adi|home! 14.14.29 # (assuming adi|home = adiamas) 14.15.27 # nods 14.15.30 # no problem 14.15.36 # any others that you 'must have' :) 14.15.47 # i have right and center alignment on my list as well 14.16.39 # adi|home: yellow build 14.16.46 # ack! 14.17.50 # Bagder: Do you think the crash is because of rtc_read()? 14.18.06 # because of the stupid simulation layer for it, yes 14.18.11 # fixed 14.18.28 # The segfault occurs in vsnprintf() 14.18.33 # yes 14.18.43 # because the rtc_read() doesn't do good enough 14.18.43 # Don't understand that. 14.19.50 # The time/date struct is set to valid values in simulator .. 14.20.14 # no rtc_read is done. 14.20.20 # yes, but not year, day and month 14.20.35 # so it reads outside the arrays 14.21.12 # don't worry, me fix 14.21.39 # OK, I'll watch the diff and (hopefully) understand :) 14.22.07 # Bagder: i'm about to commit the unified player mod 14.22.24 # this will break the daily build scripts 14.22.27 # you fix? 14.22.35 # why will they break? 14.22.49 # no HAVE_NEW_LCD_CHARCELLS 14.23.07 # only two options to the configure script 14.23.21 # no ARCHOS_PLAYER_NEW 14.23.29 # but those don't break the build 14.23.37 # ah ok 14.23.39 # now I see 14.23.49 # so go break them 14.24.16 # mbr: no more crash now ;-) 14.26.02 # KABOOM! 14.26.17 # committed 14.26.30 # I can basicly stop building the playerold, right 14.26.32 # it's a very good thing 14.26.45 # Bagder: rather the playernew 14.26.54 # or whatever 14.26.56 # we only have player and playerold 14.26.59 # ok 14.27.48 Part vekar 14.28.34 # LinusN: post a little note to the list about the merge 14.28.39 # i will 14.30.39 # when cron runs.. how can i check what environment it is running with? 14.30.45 # ie: what bins it has access to 14.31.14 # or does it run with whateer root has 14.31.22 # make a cronjob that dumps 'env' to a file ;-) 14.31.26 # yes 14.31.38 # or even to stdout, should get a mail normally 14.31.46 # ah, even better 14.32.04 # LinusN: I think it'll build fine now 14.32.10 Part lc_ ("Client Exiting") 14.33.04 # PATH is 14.33.05 # set to "/usr/bin:/bin". HOME, SHELL, and PATH may be overridden by settings in the crontab 14.33.05 # * LinusN holds his breath 14.33.17 # normally... 14.33.26 # hmm... odd... 14.33.28 # Bagder: AH, now I understand. HAVE_RTC is also defined for simulator ... 14.33.38 # right! ;-) 14.33.43 # im getting errors about it not seeing a command, but i see it plain as day in /usr/bin 14.33.46 # makes better simulations 14.34.03 # hm 14.34.04 # adi|home: is it a script? 14.34.20 # yup 14.34.22 # perl? 14.34.23 # run-parts 14.34.29 # a default script in rh 14.34.30 # whats the first line of the script? 14.34.32 # no bash 14.34.36 # maybe thats not in path 14.34.42 # Bagder: Yes. But I missed this change. 14.34.59 # bash is in /bin 14.34.59 # make sure that the script language binary is also in the path (perl, bash, ...) 14.35.02 # so it should be 14.35.49 # but if you provide the absolute path to /usr/bin/run-parts you still get the error? 14.36.05 # 4 minutes and counting... 14.36.45 # Zagor: didn't check in the status_draw things right away. Wanna know why? 14.37.31 # you don't wanna wear that silly hat saying "I caused a red build" ? ;-P 14.37.47 # * adi|home owns the yellow hat 14.37.53 # no problem. I'm used to it ;-) 14.37.58 # * LinusN has a "red build" tatoo 14.38.17 # I think it is rather cute actually ;-) 14.38.35 # "but sometimes they are REEEEED" (great song by Monty Python) 14.38.39 # Bagder: is the HTML template changed too? 14.38.43 # no 14.38.48 # that is 14.38.56 # the table should adjust itself 14.38.59 # ok 14.39.05 # thatäs cool 14.39.09 # we'll see if that works ;-) 14.39.16 # in about 2 minutes 14.39.51 # how about the daily build tar file creation? 14.40.10 # the tar file is all the soure, no change there 14.40.20 # the daily target build script is adjusted 14.40.29 # but not the html that shows them 14.42.08 # woo! 14.42.12 # yellow! 14.42.34 # but the table did the job ;-) 14.42.45 # nods 14.43.02 # your missing a stub 14.43.07 # has_lcd 14.43.08 # Bagder: (player simulator) I can get display by pressing but I can't get to the set volume display. Can you? 14.43.26 # never tried it 14.44.11 # That's why we want the X-keys to work properly insn't it? 14.44.48 # Bagder: i don't get any warnings when i build 14.44.58 # did you rerun configure? 14.45.03 # no 14.45.09 # me do that 14.45.12 # then ARCHOS_PLAYER isn't set 14.45.50 # argh you 14.45.53 # Is this a good time to do some other check ins or should I wait? 14.45.55 # why change that? 14.46.08 # Bagder: change? 14.46.24 # why do I need to rerun configure? 14.46.50 # i am silly 14.47.05 # I get the warning anyway 14.47.06 # or am i? 14.47.10 # ../../apps/menu.c:109: warning: implicit declaration of function `has_new_lcd' 14.47.11 # i get it too 14.47.16 # i was blind 14.47.41 # but i don't like having to use HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS when i really want to test for a Player 14.48.03 # so? it doesn't affect configure 14.48.14 # forget about configure 14.48.28 # but configure doesn't set ARCHOS_PLAYER 14.48.37 # it only sets HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS 14.48.50 # it sets ARCHOS_PLAYER 14.49.14 # but not the simulator one 14.49.30 # and that's why we have ayellow build on the sim build 14.50.20 # we agreed a long time ago to check for features, not models, and that's why the sim makefile doesn't specify models, only features 14.50.59 # ok, tell me what feature hwcompat should test for? 14.51.14 # it has code for each model 14.51.33 # #ifdefing for a feature is silly in that context 14.52.17 # I'm not telling you how to do, I'm explaining why this works like this now 14.52.44 # btw, why doesn't the simulator use config.h? 14.53.04 # because the sims aren't a player nor a recorder 14.53.11 # setting ARCHOS_PLAYER will automatically set HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS 14.53.17 # yes 14.53.45 # Bagder: but they simulate a player or a recorder 14.53.56 # not necessarily 14.55.14 # no, someone may get the idea of creating a simulator version with a recorder having LCD display, but why? 14.55.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.56.09 # because I've seen no reason to forbid writing more specific/weird/special test cases 14.56.26 # like the player sim today uses lots of recorder lcd stuff 14.56.35 # it makes it a player-hybrid 14.56.44 # ok, never mind, i'll change the #ifdef 14.57.04 # where #ifdef PLAYER #else /* recorder*/ would've made it impossible 14.58.14 # you can probably solve it with checking for SIMULATOR, as otherwise it'll have a model defined 14.59.44 # for now, it's only the lcd version check anyway, and that is at least related to the LCD type anyway 15.00.09 # ah, true 15.00.37 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 15.00.48 # it will be a little different when the HD poweroff function is added 15.02.03 # did we fix the danish peak meter bug? 15.02.28 # hehe 15.02.31 # the yellow moved 15.02.58 # LinusN: yes, that's when we discovered we had to bump the language version 15.03.12 # which we haven't done yet 15.03.16 # Bagder: ah, forgot to include config.h 15.04.41 # LinusN: we should move the simulator stuff out from mpeg.c and have them in a separate stub file, don't you agree? 15.05.05 # Bagder: i agree, and i don't agree 15.05.19 # :-) 15.05.26 # lots of the mpeg code needs to be duplicated 15.05.32 # i don't like that 15.05.41 # not lots, but some 15.06.54 # duplicated? 15.07.01 # you mean the function names? 15.07.14 # the tables for the min/max/default values 15.07.58 # not that it is serious if they aren't alike 15.08.48 # it just seemed silly that my commit now is made in the same mpeg that is used on target when the fix is all simulator related 15.08.59 # no biggie 15.09.27 # but i agree. we should stub as much as possible. 15.09.46 # it sure would make mpeg.c cleaner 15.10.06 # Bagder: are you making the simulator actually to simulate playing? 15.10.15 # *shrug* no 15.10.23 # :-) 15.10.29 # * matsl aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.......... 15.10.32 # well, perhaps one day 15.10.49 # simulate playing would basicly mean increase the timer 15.10.57 # and call the playlist code 15.11.13 # Zagor: do we allow SF bug reports on daily builds now? 15.11.36 # i know. seems so simple but hard to do with mpeg.c. 15.11.57 # matsl: right, that's a good reason to not use the actual mpeg.c in simulator builds 15.12.11 # mpeg_stubs.c? 15.12.14 # LinusN: yes. i'll update that page 15.12.54 # LinusN: I'd rather see mpeg split in one hw-related and one data-related file, as then we could use the data one in the simulator as is and replace the hw-related one 15.12.55 # that's another reason to use config.h 15.13.08 # the data-related is hw-dependent 15.13.30 # or what do you mean by "data"? 15.13.33 # we use defines when we build the simulators as well, that's not a problem 15.13.51 # the problem is the hw-related code 15.13.52 # Bagder: is HAVE_MAS3507D defined in simulator? 15.14.03 # it would be, if we need it 15.14.17 # we do, if we want the settings to be correctly simulated 15.14.26 # that's very unimportant 15.14.45 # but so easily done so we could just as well do it 15.15.13 # Zagor: it is important if we want to take screenshots from the simulators 15.16.14 # not that they are correct 15.16.47 # no? 15.17.38 # it doesn't matter 15.17.43 # no, why would the max value for example be important for the simulator? duplicating this is no biggie. 15.17.45 # we'll have the sim support them 15.20.38 # how do i commit a deleted file without committing the rest in my CVS tree? 15.20.50 # cvs ci filename 15.21.00 # no tab completion though :) 15.21.24 # Schnueff: :-) 15.22.23 # what the H & V resolution and font size for rockbox fonts? 15.22.49 # bobTHC: it depends on the font 15.23.15 # resolution is pixels 15.23.37 # asking general setting to convert ttf to bdf 15.47.57 # Bagder: Any conclusion about the mpeg-thread for the simulator? 15.48.16 # nothing for now at least 15.48.19 # ok 15.49.29 # i think mpeg-stubs.c is the way to go 15.50.03 # and duplicate the stuff they can share? 15.50.18 # yup 15.50.32 # I disagree 15.50.54 # I'd rather have a big #ifdef SIM around all functions in mpeg that the stub offers 15.50.58 # and then the sim uses both files 15.51.44 # and what about the target? 15.51.57 # you mean MAS type? 15.52.05 # i mean mpeg.c 15.52.21 # I don't understand, what about it? 15.52.23 # i thought the point of this action wa to clean up mpeg.c? 15.52.31 # it would 15.52.38 # imho 15.53.13 # you'd only have one #ifdef and one #endif instead of today's 132 (well I didn't count ;-) 15.53.15 # uwe is here? 15.54.54 # time to go home 15.54.58 # bye all! 15.55.01 # see ya linus 15.55.13 Part LinusN 15.55.13 # * Schnueff .. away too 16.03.10 Quit SillyFly ("Connection reset by peer (ëùàðé éîöà àú äôéø äæä àðé éëñç ìå àú äàîàîà)") 16.04.32 # maximum size for *.fnt font file ? 16.04.58 # 8KB 16.05.08 # 9000 bytes actually 16.05.17 # cu 16.05.24 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 16.05.25 # bye mats 16.05.51 # ouch by default when i generate on from bdf file size is near 280kb !!!!! 16.06.19 # that's because you don't strip out all the bazillion unicode characters 16.06.41 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.09.00 Join xam__ [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 16.09.07 Nick xam__ is now known as xam (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 16.10.16 # i limit it to 128 and the file is around 2.5kb !!!! thanx 16.10.30 # limit it to 256 16.10.44 # then you have the iso8859-1 set 16.11.29 # 256>5kb always good 16.13.50 # not really iso8859-1 compliant because some car miss but better ;) 16.21.09 # where can i find a already compiled recoreder sim for win32 ??? 16.22.59 # i'm surely blind bust i don't see it on the website... 16.23.17 Quit calpef[away] ("Bye bye, cu l8r") 16.23.37 # there isn't one 16.24.27 # i must compil it myself? 16.24.40 # yes 16.24.50 # and even then you'll get problems 16.24.50 # bottom of daily build page 16.26.41 # it needs fixes to build 16.26.52 # I know edx has made several but not yet committed them 16.27.39 # bobTHC: the win32 simulators are not very well taken care of 16.30.51 # it's just to test my freshgenerated fonts... 16.31.14 # don't be a chicken, try them on target ;-) 16.31.18 # don't worry i can wait this night... 16.31.56 # i haven't here !!! 16.32.39 # ok then, you're excused ;-) 16.33.14 # hehe, no i MUST have it with me!!!! 16.44.36 # woooo! who is going to test the new code :) 16.48.27 # YOU! 16.48.42 # well, lemme at it. 16.48.55 # elinenbe: this was just test code, not the actual fat code... :-) 16.48.58 # that's only development code, not for live tests 16.51.37 # I like the gap in the daily build table ;-) 16.51.48 # well, let me at the live code. 16.51.52 # I'm hungry 16.53.23 Quit dug ("Client Exiting") 16.53.23 # i will check it in soon. but it's FAR from ready. 16.53.31 # so you'll stay hungry a while more :-) 16.53.47 # nah, he can fix the remaining things ;-) 16.55.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.02.22 # Bagder: will you cut player-old from the compile status table? 17.03.49 # it'll vanish automaticly 17.03.54 # ah, ok 17.05.46 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAB4E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.05.51 # hi edx 17.08.05 # Zagor: I'm rewriting the cvs log script to output html instead of plain text 17.08.18 # ok, nice 17.08.19 # example: http://daniel.haxx.se/test.html 17.09.19 # I guess I shall stuff lots of classes in there 17.10.19 Quit TotMacher () 17.10.23 # yup :) 17.11.07 # hi 17.11.20 # hmmm i dont get sound on one ear... right now 17.11.36 # i hope i wont have to send in the device again! 17.14.42 # wtf.. 17.14.48 # why does it work with the original firmware 17.14.55 # * edx puts rockbox on again 17.15.15 # Zagor: you want me to store a bigger example somewhere so that you can work out some nice ccs stuff before we replace the text logs? 17.15.54 # css 17.16.32 # ahh.. now it works ;) 17.22.20 Quit xam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.23.36 # Bagder: i think i want it as a table anyway. css can't do that :-) 17.23.57 # uh, no wait. i'm silly. 17.24.14 # check the page now 17.24.17 # http://daniel.haxx.se/test.html 17.24.29 # yup, looks good 17.24.54 # but it needs some formatting to look nice 17.25.04 # indeed :-) 17.30.52 Join Triple-z [0] (~Mp3@212.116.168.55) 17.30.56 # hey 17.31.03 # howdy ho 17.31.21 # anyone saw the new nomad zen? 17.32.52 # I read some of the slashot crap 17.33.20 # goods bads? 17.33.38 # the design looks good 17.33.51 # http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox_zen/ 17.33.52 # they just talk about how this is cheaper than ipod 17.33.53 # it seems like a rec20-style device, but as usual crappy Creative software and limited protocols 17.34.28 # "SB1394" is enough to make you laugh 17.34.30 # or cry 17.35.17 # Zagor: starting tomorrow, the daily builds get html versions of that changelog too 17.35.29 # to work out the css on 17.35.30 # woot 17.35.44 # then we can fix the the build table ones to be html too 17.35.53 # yup 17.36.20 # whats the quque function stats? 17.36.55 # it won't happen anything much on queue things until we have file writes 17.37.45 # oh my god, it actually has usb1, not usb2... bwahaha! 17.38.13 # the specs page only says "USB" 17.38.52 # yeah, well if they had usb2, they would be bragging about it all over. 17.38.59 # is there chance for a search option in the future? 17.39.04 # yes 17.39.05 # Triple-z: yes 17.39.11 # cool 17.39.12 # "# Transfer your songs and other files in a flash with SB1394 FireWire® - 10x faster than USB!" 17.39.18 # surely indicates usb1 17.39.21 # yup 17.39.23 # cant wait for quque & search :P 17.39.39 # Triple-z: stop waiting, start coding ;-) 17.39.44 Part elinenbe 17.40.06 # "Powerful, simplistic icon-driven interface with Quick Scroller Navigation" 17.40.11 # icon-driven? 17.40.19 # hehe 17.40.32 # I never understood that kind of marketting talk 17.41.11 # "Creative File Manager. Move non-music files quickly and easily with this handy little program that fits on a floppy." did they ever hear of "copy", "drag&drop"??? 17.41.22 # requirements include: 17.41.28 # "Sound Blaster® Audigy?, Extigy? or Live!? For EAX® enhanced MP3 encoding" 17.41.43 # (the ? above being TM marks) 17.41.46 # SB1394 FireWire port (found on Sound Blaster® Audigy? series of audio cards) 17.41.51 # isn't that nice 17.42.06 # not only firewire, but SB firewire... 17.42.08 # someone should sue them 17.43.48 Join xam [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 17.44.39 # "Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's, please? realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home." -- Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds 17.45.47 # SB1394 is a classical firewire port it's marketing name 17.46.05 # no 17.46.20 # SB1394 is a creative monster 17.46.38 # firewire is 1394 without SB 17.47.43 # i'm agree with u, it's like sony who name it i 17.47.43 # 91% played of track[Guns N Roses - Estranged] · album[Best of Guns N Roses (Ltd. 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