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08.24.52 #       <henrysunset> hello
08.24.56 #       <henrysunset> is this place active?
08.25.29 #       <henrysunset> i had some rocbox queries
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08.27.58 #       <henrysunset> hello?
08.30.10 #       <henrysunset> fyi; good prices on recorder model can be had: 180$ for 20gb; http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=895212
08.30.21 #       <henrysunset> ya'll prolly have ome or more machines by now tho
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08.57.54 #       <mem> hi Zagor
08.58.00 #       <Zagor> hi
08.58.09 #       <henrysunset> hello
08.58.28 #       <henrysunset> query: is there an emulator so I can play with the rockbox on my pc?
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08.59.07 #       <Zagor> henrysunset: yes
08.59.08 #       <PsycoXul> have you even looked at the website
08.59.25 #       <henrysunset> yes!
08.59.30 #       <henrysunset> i diddnt see a emu download
08.59.45 #       <PsycoXul> well i don't think we really have an emulater exactly
08.59.49 #       <PsycoXul> it's actualy a simulator
08.59.53 #       <henrysunset> right
08.59.57 #       <henrysunset> i diddn't see that even
09.00.28 #       <henrysunset> i just wanted to see what the UI is like
09.00.55 #       <henrysunset> i'm sorta a ui freak; and i'm hopin you gotcha self a clean easy to use system as i heard the original one is hellish
09.02.16 #       <PsycoXul> check the bottom of the daily builds page 
09.02.31 #       <henrysunset>  ok thank you
09.03.36 #       <henrysunset> i need to be careful not to download code; since my job makes it liek illegal
09.03.47 #       <PsycoXul> heh whys that
09.04.15 #       <henrysunset> i work for microsoft... they are pretty careful to cover there asees in that regard
09.04.30 #       <henrysunset> we can't be getting ideas from other open source projects yaknow
09.04.43 #       <PsycoXul> oh yes
09.04.51 #       <henrysunset> it's quite annoying
09.05.02 #       <PsycoXul> i'm absolutely positive that microsoft has never stolen code from free software. Really, i am.
09.07.59 #       <henrysunset> i can't read if yer bein sarcastic or not; but from my perspective on the "inside" i'd say they sure as hell try!
09.10.31 #       <henrysunset> are you a developing contributor to this app?
09.11.31 #       <PsycoXul> i've done a few bits of code, but i mainly contribute ideas and bug reports
09.12.53 #       <henrysunset> so... if i get this right; you navigate up and down lists with the right and left keys, and in and out of the hierarchy with up and down?
09.13.40 #       <PsycoXul> um i dunno, i have a player not a recorder
09.13.56 #       <henrysunset> oh ok
09.13.59 #       <PsycoXul> i don't have up/down left/right, just play/stop -/+
09.14.00 #       <PsycoXul> heh
09.14.06 #       <henrysunset> what does it have
09.14.07 #       <henrysunset> oh
09.14.09 #       <henrysunset> jeez
09.14.24 #       <henrysunset> that might explain the counterintuitive mapping on the recorder
09.14.35 #       <PsycoXul> hmm
09.14.41 #       <PsycoXul> is the mapping counterintuitive? heh
09.15.12 #       <henrysunset> i dunno
09.15.15 #       <henrysunset> let me [play some more
09.15.17 #       <PsycoXul> usualy the recorder interface mostly disregards the player interface afaik, since they're so different overall
09.15.37 #       <henrysunset> i won't make judgement till the real thing comes in the mail
09.15.49 #       <henrysunset> oh ok
09.15.54 #       <henrysunset> i think i had a wacky build
09.16.07 #       <henrysunset> no it's ok
09.17.13 #       <henrysunset> hehe
09.17.19 #       <henrysunset> you can change pitch? sweet
09.17.36 #       <henrysunset> if that is changing speed you could dj with two of these
09.26.11 #       <Schnueff> moin
09.26.47 #       <henrysunset> haha, tetris
09.27.36 #       <Zagor> henrysunset: the recorder has up/down/left/right, so is a lot more intuitive. the player has only prev/next/play/stop and thus the UI becomes a bit strange
09.30.34 #       <henrysunset> yes i am seeing this
09.30.50 #       <henrysunset> does the recorder utilize the button in the middle of the directions?
09.31.21 #       <henrysunset> (i am getting a recorder so i won't drown int he kludgey interface anyhow)
09.31.45 #       <henrysunset> so far from the windows demo i'm pretty impressed though
09.31.55 #       <Zagor> yes, the middle button is used for play/pause
09.32.08 #       <henrysunset> i tried the archos with the builtin os a long time and it made me crazy
09.32.14 #       <Zagor> :-)
09.32.15 #       <henrysunset> oh ok, thanks
09.32.31 #       <henrysunset> the only thing that still suck; sis the silly bumbers
09.32.39 #       <henrysunset> and that is way beyond the scope of software
09.33.06 #       <Zagor> they're not so silly when you drop it on the floor... :-) but i agree they're not very pretty.
09.33.21 #       <henrysunset> does it really survive arm heingt drops?
09.33.48 #       <Zagor> i have dropped mine a few times, actually. scary, but it still lives.
09.33.53 #       <henrysunset> yeah...
09.34.02 #       <henrysunset> can you upgrade the harddrive that's inside?
09.34.07 #       <Zagor> yup
09.34.12 #       <henrysunset> fun
09.34.23 #       <Zagor> it's a standard fat32-formatted 2.5" laptop disk
09.34.25 #       <henrysunset> 9mmm ide?
09.34.30 #       <Zagor> yep
09.34.32 #       <henrysunset> k
09.34.37 #       <henrysunset> most excellent
09.34.48 #       <henrysunset> this should beat my current car mp3 player
09.35.07 #       <Zagor> which one do you have?
09.35.08 #       <henrysunset> http://ghettohardware.com/mp3car/
09.35.11 #       <henrysunset> :-)
09.35.17 #       <Zagor> ah
09.35.23 #       <henrysunset> you will be entertained
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09.36.07 #       <Zagor> OMG, that web page is >1MB!
09.36.27 #       <henrysunset> my webpage?
09.36.33 #       <Zagor> yeah
09.36.38 #       <henrysunset> yikes, sorry
09.36.49 #       <Zagor> no problem, i have a fast connection :-)
09.36.50 #       <henrysunset> i prolly diddnt optimize the images
09.36.54 #       <henrysunset> yeah me too
09.36.57 #       <henrysunset> hence the not caring
09.38.20 #       <Zagor> what kind of laptop is that? no heat problems running with the lid closed?
09.38.32 #       <henrysunset> nope
09.38.41 #       <henrysunset> oooooldschool toshiba tecra
09.39.01 #       <henrysunset> it has no cdrom/batt/keyboard
09.39.08 #       <henrysunset> so it has lotsa air room
09.39.14 #       <Zagor> ok
09.39.17 #       <henrysunset> i even 1/2'd the fan speed
09.39.23 #       <henrysunset> and the lcd is cracked
09.39.30 #       <henrysunset> but it still tries to run
09.39.49 #       <henrysunset> anyway
09.39.51 #       <henrysunset> thanks for the tips
09.40.14 #       <henrysunset> i'll be back in with my comments once the device comes thru the mail.
09.40.27 #       <Zagor> you'll get some spare room under your seat with the archos :-)
09.40.32 #       <henrysunset> i can't believe there 180$ now
09.40.36 #       <henrysunset> yes i will
09.40.42 #       <henrysunset> tho i lose the convenient screen
09.40.57 #       <Zagor> yeah
09.41.02 #       <henrysunset> no ext lcd mod yet eh?
09.41.08 #       <Zagor> not yet
09.41.16 #       <Zagor> there's talk about it on the list
09.41.24 #       <henrysunset> cool
09.41.27 #       <henrysunset> how'd that work?
09.41.33 #       <henrysunset> mad hackery?
09.41.39 #       <henrysunset> or is there a way to use serial or usb?
09.41.41 #       <Zagor> via the remote control connection in the EAR socket
09.41.46 #       <henrysunset> i see
09.41.59 #       <henrysunset> does that have any sane bandwidth?
09.42.07 #       <Zagor> nah, 9600 bps
09.42.11 #       <henrysunset> usable
09.42.26 #       <henrysunset> is there instructions to make your own remote?
09.42.47 #       <Zagor> yup. the problem is it's a single pin (which is rx by default) so we need to device some simplex protocol
09.43.08 #       <Zagor> search the web page for "remoclone". it's a PIC remote hack.
09.43.16 #       <henrysunset> ok
09.43.23 #       <henrysunset> works w/ this eh?
09.43.46 #       <Zagor> yup it works
09.44.06 #       <henrysunset> k
09.44.47 #       <henrysunset> requiring a programmer?
09.45.27 #       <Zagor> umm, don't remember. i haven't built one myself.
09.46.06 #       <henrysunset> looks like a pic16lf84
09.46.14 #       <henrysunset> dunno it's specs offhand
09.46.16 #       <henrysunset> oh well
09.46.18 #       <henrysunset> thanks :-)
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11.56.42 #       <Zagor> quiet today
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12.38.57 #       <Zagor> Just received: Linus got a daughter at 23:17 yesterday.
12.46.01 #       <Hadaka> whoa!
12.46.25 #       <dwihno> :O
12.46.28 #       <dwihno> Yay!
12.46.47 #       <dwihno> The first male who got a daughter (after Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Twins") ;)
12.47.50 #       <Zagor> :-) yeah, he's kinda special...
12.51.13 #       <dwihno> :-)
12.51.22 #       <dwihno> Multiline scrolling looks weird btw
12.51.39 #       <dwihno> the scrolling speed should be configurable as well as the pixel setting
12.51.41 #       <dwihno> (imho) :)
12.51.54 #       <Zagor> it doesn't make much difference. try it.
12.53.00 #       <Zagor> i haven't tested the multiline scroll yet
12.53.44 #       <dwihno> It's fishy :)
12.53.48 #       <dwihno> ><))))8> x 10
12.54.35 #       <dwihno> Looks strange
12.55.04 #       <dwihno> try it
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13.32.24 #       <Mr_Tulip> does rockbox work on 4.13 firmware? (Couldn't find this info on the FAQ...)
13.34.02 #       <Zagor> Mr_Tulip: yes it does
13.34.42 #       * Mr_Tulip installed the one labelled 'old', but something's not right =/
13.35.30 #       <Mr_Tulip> no new menu options, and my MP3 directory is not showing in the directory browser...
13.36.04 #       <Zagor> "no new menu options"?
13.36.43 #       <Mr_Tulip> mebbe i did something weird..
13.36.55 #       <Mr_Tulip> i copied the original archos.mod to a sub-dir
13.37.06 #       <Zagor> do you see the Rockbox boot text?
13.37.24 #       <Mr_Tulip> no boot text at all, not even the 5.07a thing
13.37.54 #       <Zagor> what happens when you press MENU
13.38.15 #       <Mr_Tulip> i get the 'standard' options
13.38.38 #       <Zagor> you mean the archos firmware?
13.39.12 #       <Zagor> it sounds like you are running the ROM firmware
13.39.18 #       <Mr_Tulip> sounds like it..
13.40.05 #       * Mr_Tulip prolly stuffed something up
13.41.02 #       <Zagor> try reinstalling rockbox 
13.41.12 #       <Mr_Tulip> doing that now..
13.42.30 #       <Mr_Tulip> hehe..
13.42.48 #       <Mr_Tulip> i forgot to unpack the sub-dir..
13.42.53 #       <Mr_Tulip> =/
13.42.55 #       <Zagor> haha
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14.13.08 #       <Norrin> Anyone messed with the new Archos Recorder w/FM player?
14.13.19 #       <Mr_Tulip> thx Zagor - it's all working now.. looks v. nice
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17.09.58 #       <Zagor> the fat write code is now ripe for testing. start with the simulated code (read firmware/test/fat/README)
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18.10.46 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: I like testing write code
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18.43.00 #       <quelsaruk> argg
18.43.01 #       <quelsaruk> hi
18.43.03 #       <quelsaruk> :)
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20.09.47 #       <oggi> Has anyone got the fonts to work in v1.4?
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20.11.31 #       <oggi> I can't get the fonts to load on my studio 20, anyone have some fix ideas?
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21.13.41 #       <adi|home> hey zagor.. the amazing 'i don't bother reading docs' virus struck again..
21.14.01 #       <Zagor> ah, sounds fun. what happened?
21.14.09 #       <adi|home> <oggi> I can't get the fonts to load on my studio 20, anyone have some fix ideas?
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21.14.14 #       <Zagor> lol
21.14.46 #       <adi|home> i wasn't here to answer him...
21.15.43 #       <quelsaruk> hi Zagor
21.15.54 #       <Zagor> hi quelsaruk
21.16.39 #       <quelsaruk> cu soon!  ( i hope)
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22.54.12 #       <adi|home> damn you zagor.. taking away my road flares/cat/microwaves comments
22.54.14 #       <adi|home> damn you
22.54.16 #       <adi|home> damn you
22.54.17 #       * adi|home smirks
22.55.28 #       <Zagor> hehe
22.56.02 #       <Zagor> people kept having problems finding the USB mening hidden in that rant :-)
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