--- Log for 06.11.102 Server: capek.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 9 days and 20 hours ago 00.00.47 Quit TotMacher () 00.01.04 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DBA4A.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.07.31 Part LinusN 00.16.10 Quit TotMacher () 00.52.03 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.35.42 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.40.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.40.58 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 03.56.00 Quit _seb_ ("chkdsk time") 04.10.10 Join _seb_ [0] (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.15.48 Join nuts [0] (~joe@12-234-4-62.client.attbi.com) 04.17.54 # Is there a Win32 based simulator that allows one to test firmware and WPS files before loading them on the recorder? 04.22.38 Quit nuts () 04.47.50 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.51.31 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 05.41.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.34.51 Join merwin [0] (~none@12.242.186.80) 06.48.34 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 06.48.34 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.48.46 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 07.41.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.58.49 Quit merwin () 08.13.53 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 08.14.38 # moin 08.19.51 # MOINS0RENS! :D 08.23.43 Join henrysunset [0] (henrysunse@c66-235-40-210.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.09.59 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.10.06 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.18.31 Quit henrysunset (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.28.26 Quit mecraw1212 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.29.48 Join mecraw1212 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 09.41.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.43.34 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.43.49 # morning linux 09.43.51 # linus 09.43.59 # i need coffee :-) 09.44.12 # yo 09.46.40 Part LinusN 09.50.40 # haha. "now you see me, now you don't" :-) 10.03.57 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.15.53 Part LinusN 10.31.51 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp12-16.ath.forthnet.gr) 10.42.53 Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") 10.46.24 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp12-16.ath.forthnet.gr) 11.35.38 Join Administrator_ [0] (~Administr@adsl-35-6-88.bct.bellsouth.net) 11.35.53 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.37.48 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA70B.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.41.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.41.28 Quit TotMacher (Client Quit) 11.44.01 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 11.45.55 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.21.15 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B28c2.pppool.de) 12.33.28 Nick Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.33.34 # ooh, busy here today ;) 12.34.13 # indeedo 12.34.16 # Not me: I'm on vacation 12.34.41 # Just grabbing current cvs and than cu in 2 weeks 12.35.07 # (besides I find an internet cafe...) 12.35.14 # where are you going? 12.35.21 # Netherlands. 12.35.30 # ah 12.35.47 # They say its good windsurfing wind tomorrow. 12.36.16 # bring the thick wetsuit :-) 12.36.28 # no, I have a thick drysuit :) 12.36.33 # ah 12.36.53 # (which isn't as dry as it claims to be) 12.37.34 # no? when I use them for diving, they are plenty dry :-) 12.39.33 # * Bagder studies the "LINUX ALLOCATED DEVICES" list 12.40.17 # But when you dive _into_ the water at 40 kmh with the head in front some water still spills down the back... 12.40.30 # hehe 12.40.52 # yeah, i never tried that while diving :-) 12.41.27 # I've tried that sitting in a kayak ;-) 12.41.42 # How do I mount the jukebox waterproof? :) 12.41.45 # but only with wetsuit 12.42.26 # langhaarrocker: there was a question (and several answers) about that on the yahoo list yesterday or the day before 12.42.53 # Answer? I ment this to be a joke! 12.45.29 # But when I think about it: I have a waterproof plastic bag for my camera. With a flex pcb cable I might get the headphone through the seal... 12.46.11 # Should have thought about that earlier to solder something. Where do I get water proof earphones? 12.46.15 # :) 12.47.26 # hehe. didn't sony sell some kind of water resistant headhpones in the 80s? you know that yellow waterproof "sport walkman" 12.48.17 # Oh I remember the case. Since then yellow was associated with water proof. I consider this as good marketing. 12.48.31 # yup 12.49.28 # Paint the jukebox yellow then 12.49.36 # and it will inherit the waterprofness :) 12.49.39 # :) 12.50.04 # Do I have to swap the backlight leds, too? 12.50.50 # yes 12.50.52 # just to make sure 12.53.10 # You guys infect me with dangerous ideas. Pray that you don't exchange a rockbox developer (with jukebox) with a rockbox developer without jukebox and some heavy rocking fish! 12.53.53 # How much rock a rockbox rock box box rock? :) 12.55.08 # I give in. 12.56.45 # Ok. Cu in 2 weeks, or so. 12.56.58 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 13.05.50 Quit Administrator_ ("Client Exiting") 13.06.13 # I found this today: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jamlib/ 13.06.23 # It's code I wrote back in '96... 13.06.33 # someone apparently still uses it :-) 13.06.45 # "wanted" ! :-) 13.06.52 # yeah 13.07.26 # brand new registered 13.07.45 # yup. it's fun to look at how you wrote code long ago. :-) 13.08.06 # apart from some oddball naming conventions, it looks fairly ok 13.38.30 Part Zagor 13.38.37 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 13.39.05 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA70B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.41.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.47.16 Quit TotMacher () 13.49.40 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.49.44 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.58.19 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 13.59.20 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-school (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.35.58 # http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=TotMacher 14.36.39 # I don't fall for those cheap stuff ;) 14.38.02 # uh, popups, like, suck... 14.41.29 # uh, popups, like, blocked... :-) 15.05.11 # hehe 15.33.54 Join Norrin [0] (trilluser@p3E9D2DE0.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.33.55 Quit dwihno (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.34.29 # Tried the Rockbox firmware with the new Archos Jukebox FM Recorder today. 15.34.54 # how did it go? 15.35.02 # splat? 15.35.13 # I suspect Archos is jealous of your work. It didn't pickup the file. 15.35.27 # Looks like they changed the way they handle firmware upgrades. 15.35.31 # do you have an "update firmware" menu entry? 15.35.42 # Didn't come up. 15.35.49 # Let me look again. 15.36.09 # While I'm doing that, can you explain "Now also displays WPS lines without format codes 15.36.12 # don't try it, just say if it exists 15.36.33 # Norrin: there was a bug that made wps lines without % codes not display 15.41.15 # Tried it, doesn't give the option to update firmware. 15.41.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.41.31 # try dropping it from a height of 3 inches 15.41.52 # ok, we'll just have to wait until a) someone opens up their fm recorder or b) archos releases a firmware update for it 15.42.07 # (the canonical first things appliance techs do in their service shop :) 15.43.06 # the multimedia also doesn't load files from disk. instead it reprograms the flash rom via a menu option. 15.43.32 # Have you seen a picture of this Jukebox? Note at the bottom of the player it has what appears to be a finger inset to open it. 15.43.58 # This flap is sealed closed with two screws and I'm not going to be the first to open it. 15.44.27 # There's no Warranty Sticker anywhere on it either which makes me suspect they have it rigged inside somewhere. 15.45.20 # i have only seen the official archos photos. no detailed ones. 15.46.12 # i'm pretty sure it uses the multimedia hardware platform 15.46.29 # It uses the same LiOn battery. 15.46.39 # Same footprint. 15.46.55 # do you run windows or linux? 15.47.11 # Windows XP 15.47.29 # i'd like to see the id of the USB chip. can XP show that? 15.48.35 # Don't think so, can't find it anywhere in device manager anyway. 15.48.49 # :-( 15.48.51 # Have the manual zipped if you want me to send it to you. 1+MB 15.49.05 # nah, manuals never contain useful info :-) thanks anyway. 15.50.39 # It does have a flaw already noted over in Yahoo, when using the FM radio, you can't turn the volume off. 15.50.55 # heh 15.51.04 # If with the volume showing completely down, it's still pretty loud. 15.54.43 Part Norrin 16.29.02 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 16.32.51 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.56.01 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 17.15.30 Join probonic [0] (~phil@host217-35-13-207.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 17.15.38 Quit probonic (Client Quit) 17.17.02 Join Indio [0] (Indio@213-96-108-92.uc.nombres.ttd.es) 17.17.07 # hello 17.18.45 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 17.20.42 # hi 17.22.36 # is this chanel only about jukebox? 17.25.37 # it's about rockbox 17.26.31 # rockbox is about jukebox, isn't it? i'm spanish 17.28.29 # yes it is 17.28.43 # thnak you Zagor 17.29.28 # i hope to buy jukebox soon 17.32.49 Join g1g4 [0] (g1g4@ti211110a080-2922.bb.online.no) 17.35.27 # if you can afford it, get a recorder. they are much more fun than the studios. 17.37.11 # are you musican? Zagor 17.39.13 # no, i'm a programmer :-) 17.39.38 # actually, I'm a singer too so in a way I guess you could call me a musician 17.39.55 # in which way? 17.40.03 # ah 17.40.04 # :) 17.40.32 # :) 17.40.43 Part g1g4 17.41.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.41.24 # ok, but do you have jukebox for listen music or for recorder? Zagor 17.43.00 # music 17.43.25 # ok, where are you from? 17.43.31 # sweden 17.44.02 # there are very much sweden here 17.44.44 # sweden is the land of the 'rockbox' 17.45.31 # ok, i didn't know it, where are you from? Schnueff 17.45.37 # from germany 17.46.12 # do you singing too? Schnueff 17.46.34 # on rare occasions maybe. but most of my lifetime not :) 17.47.27 # then you use rokbox for listen music 17.53.32 # yes 17.56.11 # ok, :-) 17.59.55 # gotta go. see you later! 17.59.56 Part Zagor 18.33.31 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 18.47.35 Nick tot|away is now known as TotMacher (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 19.26.14 Quit Indio ("Client Exiting") 19.40.27 Part LinusN 19.41.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.42.59 Quit TotMacher () 19.43.19 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA70B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.44.54 Join tot [0] (tot@p508DB8E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.46.21 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 19.47.03 Quit tot (Client Quit) 19.48.19 Quit Giss|XC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.00.34 Join tot [0] (tot@ip109.rsidus.riege.de) 20.00.35 Join Giss|XC [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-4-111.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.02.24 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.04.22 Join Norrin [0] (Norrin@p3EE0D57A.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.10.16 Part Norrin 20.20.26 Join xam_ [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 20.22.54 Nick xam_ is now known as xam (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 20.27.03 Nick tot is now known as TotMacher (tot@ip109.rsidus.riege.de) 20.32.12 # hm 80G on 2.5" 9.5mm now 20.54.18 Join tot [0] (tot@p508DBF9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.54.21 Quit tot (Remote closed the connection) 20.55.14 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.58.36 # Schnueff: who makes it? 21.12.46 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.13.01 # hola 21.13.08 # hi 21.13.51 # do you understand what the file/fat buffer discussion is about? 21.15.43 # does he mean that there should be only one buffer? 21.16.01 # yes. i don't agree, and he is not reading the latest code... 21.17.25 # well, his patch will prove his point, i guess 21.17.34 # i hope so 21.18.33 # so up untill sometime recently, i could turn my player off with rockbox by holding stop for like 2 seconds and then it'd say it was shutting down and then shut down 21.18.34 # this silly laptop has no serial port! i can't debug! :-( 21.18.55 # since i upgraded to newer rockbox i have to hold it for at least 3 seconds and it just shuts straight off 21.18.58 # PsycoXul: and now you can't? 21.19.37 # PsycoXul: are you quoting someone? 21.19.47 # quoting? no... 21.20.13 # before i could hold it for a short time, let go, and it'd wait a second and shut off.. now i actualy have to hold it untill it shuts off or it won't 21.20.15 # rockbox has never had any "shutting down" message 21.20.49 # well i may be confused about that particular bit, maybe it didn't say anything, but it's still behaving differently lately heh 21.21.04 # since when? 21.21.25 # i'm not sure exactly, i went a long time without upgrading 21.21.29 # PsycoXul teh original firmware has a "shutting down" message 21.21.40 # xam: i know 21.22.08 # we changed the power down handling a little, but that was quite some time ago 21.22.46 # ok the old version i was using before upgrading was from oct 14 i think 21.22.59 # PsycoXul: i can imagine that you actually saw a "shutting down" message when shutting off rockbox 21.24.42 # the earlier versions of rockbox actually rebooted when holding STOP long enough 21.25.17 # most units shut off before that happens 21.26.32 # i think it would be interesting to have a rockbox-specific "alternate" shutdown procedure that would take care of pending writes and such before shutting off 21.26.43 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.26.58 # but maybe it's not that useful *shrug* 21.30.28 # the faster "software" or whatever shutdown that i just described as disappearing gave me the idea, but the button-holding-time till shutdown varies per unit i guess it wouldn't be the right thing for it 21.30.58 # but if the button... even 21.32.13 # argllll ... I should have bought a proper DVD drive instead on relying on this shite Compaq CD-ROM drive ... CD ripping with 1x, but it's 32x Data ... arglllll 21.38.35 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DBF9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.41.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.28 Quit kargatron (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.54.36 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp12-16.ath.forthnet.gr) 21.54.37 # xam: dvd drives are not particularly good at ripping. a good cdrom is faster. 22.05.25 Quit _seb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.17.02 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA2FC.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.17.56 Quit edx (Client Quit) 22.19.10 Quit webmind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.19.11 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 22.20.54 Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/1]") 22.21.16 Quit TotMacher () 22.21.18 Join _seb_ [0] (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.23.36 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip68.rsidus.riege.de) 23.26.01 Join vekar [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-453.ath.forthnet.gr) 23.41.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.46.08 Quit kargatron (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.54.21 Quit webmind (Remote closed the connection) 23.55.56 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl)