--- Log for 22.11.102 Server: gibson.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 17 hours and 55 minutes ago 00.09.59 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.14.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.26.49 Join sweety [0] (~anna@h188n2fls33o985.telia.com) 00.46.42 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 00.48.47 # anyone alive here? 00.53.51 # i'm here 01.09.47 # Anyone who can tell me why my ".rockbox" folder doesn't show among the other folders on my Archos Rec20? 01.10.11 # you mean when connected to a computer? 01.10.34 Join [keno] [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.219) 01.10.37 Quit edx () 01.10.45 # No, I mean when NOT connected to my computer, when browsing using my archos 01.10.53 # ok, there is a file filter 01.11.05 # press F2 01.11.29 # then Down will change the filter 01.12.00 # <[keno]> Hi guys 01.12.07 # hi 01.12.10 # Ah, thanks, I will try that! 01.12.19 # great 01.12.26 # <[keno]> I just got the box from amazon containing my brand new AJB recorder 20! :) 01.12.34 # By the way, is there any 01.12.45 # <[keno]> waited like a month for it, and now it's here. 01.12.46 # ..sorry, didn't finish my sentence :) 01.12.46 # [keno]: congrats 01.13.22 # <[keno]> a search on google eventually pointed me to the rockbox site and I must that the entire project is pretty *mingboggling* 01.13.42 # hehe 01.14.45 # * [keno] has got a few questions, but is going through the FAQ again before asking, to avoid being annoying. 01.15.17 # [keno]: good move 01.15.20 # <[keno]> btw I am *SO* happy I spared that extra few bucks and got the recorder instead of the studio 01.15.49 # another good move 01.25.48 # <[keno]> Okay, I realise I have a LOT of catching up to do regarding this new hardware/toy I yearned for for so long. I guess my first question would have to be; generally, is there any tradeoff whatsoever in using rockbox 1.4 instead of firmware 1.28 which I got with my recorder (which I can't find on archos' firmware revision history page btw)? -- considering functionality (anything at all archos' 1.28 can do which rockbox 1.4 can't?), skips/gaps protection and o 01.26.50 # first of all, 1.27d is the same as 1.28 01.27.14 # the obvious tradeoff is that Rockbox 1.4 can't record 01.27.43 # the queue functionality is not implemented in rockbox yet 01.29.03 # will the Queue function be implemented soon? I use it very often and the lack of that function is the only reason for me NOT to use rockbox 01.29.45 # <[keno]> hrrm.. why do archos label identical firmwares differently anyways? nevermind.. well, I guess recording would be relatively rare in comparison to listening, so whenever I want to record, I can always boot into 1.28 using "rolo" right? 01.29.59 # i don't think anybody is working on it at the moment 01.30.34 # [keno]: or use the latest daily build 01.30.47 # sweety: i don't think anybody is working on it at the moment 01.31.34 # that's too bad :( I'm not a programmer, but it doesn't sound like it should be a too complicated function to program 01.31.44 # sweety: actually, it is 01.32.00 # there are a lot of special cases 01.32.00 # ah.. I see 01.32.11 # like the resume functionality 01.32.36 # sweety: a question: how do you use the queue function? 01.32.45 # <[keno]> LinusN how would that help? 01.33.11 # [keno]: i have written the recording drivers for rockbox 01.33.24 # the latest daily build has recording implemented 01.33.30 # 1.4 doesn't 01.33.36 # <[keno]> and btw, as a former TDK MOJO owner (CD based MP3 player) I think playlists are quite enough.. I don't need queue function (having said that, I haven't used the jukebox extensively yet) 01.34.01 # i like the queue function 01.34.04 # <[keno]> how long do you beleive it will take for recording to be "finalized" to an official build? 01.34.45 Join mrsubway [0] (mrsubway@ool-18be9bb8.dyn.optonline.net) 01.34.56 # [keno]: not that long 01.35.04 # we are still debugging it 01.35.20 # I have a question about the batteries. Do they charge differently with Rockbox? 01.35.39 # mrsubway: yes 01.35.42 # <[keno]> hrrm: Recorder: The current release of 1.2 is much worse than the Archos charger, it tends to stop charging much too early and leave the batteries half empty. 01.35.52 # <[keno]> same is true for 1.4 ? 01.36.11 # 1.4 has about the same algorithm 01.36.21 # Well, the charger never stopped! It kept saying "charging" for like a day! 01.36.35 # mrsubway: you mean the archos charger 01.36.39 # <[keno]> mrsubway: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/battery-faq.html 01.36.58 # But, if I plug the charger in WITHOUT turning on the unit, it will use the archos charger, right? 01.37.05 # LinusN: Well, the queue-function is great if you listen to music but don't have the archos near you. Then you can choose the next song to listen to, any time while the current one is playing.. If not using queue you have to be there and change exactly when the previous song ends, if you are like me and hate to interrupt in the middle of songs :) It is also easier than using the playlist in many ways. 01.37.05 # <[keno]> I had to make my own charger btw.. I don't have a 220->120v adapter 01.37.14 # <[keno]> (don't live in the states) 01.37.58 # [keno]: we are discussing improvements to the charging algorithm 01.38.24 # How can I use the Archos charger with rockbox, or I can't? 01.38.41 # mrsubway: rockbox charges only when rockbox is running 01.38.57 # <[keno]> mrsubway I think you can boot to archos' firmware with "rolo" 01.38.57 # OH! DUH! I didn't know that. Sorry. :( 01.39.08 # if you insert the charger when the unit is off, then the original firmware is doing the charging 01.39.34 # <[keno]> cause it can't be replaced since it's ROM based right? 01.39.47 # It was the Archos charger that never displayed "done", then. It did charge the batteries, but never told me it was finished. Using firmware 1.28 on the ROM. 01.39.50 # there have been reports that charging f**cks up when ROLO:ing to the Archos FW 01.40.14 # mrsubway: my archos says "charged" after a while 01.40.28 # I don't remember if I ROLOed or not. From now on, I'll just plug it in with the unit off and use Archos to charge. 01.40.34 # <[keno]> btw, is there any chance the unit could draw power or even get charged from the USB connection? USB is self powering (up to 500mAh - just 100 shy of the mah specs for the archos) 01.40.52 # <[keno]> the way I see it, archos haven't used USB power at all! (??) 01.41.05 # Rockbox IS great, though. When you guys add recording, I think Archos's firmware site will be dead! ^_^ 01.43.45 # [keno]: looking at the schematics, it seems to take some power from the USB, but it is not enough to spare the batteries 01.43.45 # mrsubway: we have added recording 01.43.45 # it's just not released yet 01.43.45 DBUG Enqueued KICK LinusN 01.43.45 # try a daily build (on your own risk) 01.43.45 # Oh. Cool. Are you going to trash the limit so we can record at 192? 01.43.45 # <[keno]> yeah. How did archos react when they found out about the rockbox project? can you post any correspondance with them? 01.43.45 # mrsubway: the encoding is done in hardware, we can't do anything about the bitrate 01.43.45 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.43.45 # [keno]: not a word from Archos 01.43.46 # <[keno]> LinusN windows reports 500mah used by the archos device, which is the maximum for a single USB port. my guess is that it doesn't really use all that.. 01.43.46 # I would not be surprised if Archos made you guys an offer when all the bugs are worked out. ^_^ 01.43.46 # <[keno]> (same goes for my usb adsl modem, so I figure it's a USB host bug) 01.43.46 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.43.46 # [keno]: no i don't think it is 01.44.17 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-666.ath.forthnet.gr) 01.44.36 # BTW, is there a way to delete files with Rockbox? I can't figure it out. That option doesn't seem to be there. 01.45.01 # <[keno]> LinusN you guys shoult put up a paypal account or some way for people to donate money.. ever discussed donations? I think you will get quite a few.. 01.45.35 # they don't care about money, and no, you cannot yet delete files 01.45.46 # [keno]: first of all, we're not in it for the money 01.46.05 # [keno]: secondly, who gets the money? 01.46.17 # we have lots of developers 01.46.25 # <[keno]> LinusN I know. I didn't say "commercial aspect" or "registered version".. I said donations :) 01.46.32 # True software guys like these don't care about money. Thats Micro$oft'$ department. 01.46.47 # the point is that the donatoins wouldn't actually accomplish anything 01.47.04 # they wouldn't incentivize the devs to work harder 01.47.09 # Do you guys actually have jobs in software? I understand if you cannot answer that. 01.47.51 # <[keno]> well, as an AJB-R newbie, anythink you guys can tell me that will save me some trboule later on? I am already replacing the lame 1500mah batt. with 1800 GP ones. other than that, and ofcourse rockbox, any useful info I should be aware of? 01.47.53 # mrsubway: i work as a computer consultant, in the embedded systems field 01.48.19 # I'm an A+ MCP tech. 01.48.30 # mrsubway: and what is that? :-) 01.48.35 # I wonder if the 2000MAH batteries can be found? 01.48.56 # Microsoft Certified Professional in NT server and Workstation, A+ is hardware. 01.49.02 # oh 01.49.04 # I work at City College in NYC. 01.49.13 # keno, just gt satisfactory earphones, and enjoy 01.49.30 # Radioshack Pro 35 are good earphones. 01.49.33 # don't shy away from premade playlists, i suppose 01.49.49 # some people seem to have some weird hangup against them 01.50.12 # They're uncomfortable, though. Can anyone recommend good earphones? 01.50.33 Join ]keno[ [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.179) 01.50.34 # Sony EX-70 earbuds 01.51.25 # <]keno[> shi*t, I got disconnected. anyone said anything to me after "<[keno]> well, as an AJB-R newbie, anythink you guys ca.." 01.51.31 # <]keno[> ? 01.51.59 # I don't know if Rockbox is causing this. I installed the USB drivers that came with my recorder and it was working fine. Now, however, XP won't detect and mount the drive. I had to uninstall the Archos USB drivers, and now XP detects it fine. 01.52.16 # we said to get you decent earphones, and don't be afraid of playlists 01.52.34 # mrsubway: rockbox has nothing to do with the USB 01.52.51 # <]keno[> I love playlists;) and already using the absolutely AMAZING koss porta pro (from my CDMP3 days) 01.52.56 # the USB is handled by hardware 01.53.04 # <]keno[> these headphones never cease to amaze me. 01.53.47 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.54.07 # HMM.. I wonder why that started. With the drivers, XP detects the unit, but won't mount the drive. It says "no drive". 01.54.21 # ]keno[: the Sony EX-70 rocks 01.54.44 # koss KSC-50 01.55.26 # my damn ex-70s are backordered 01.55.50 # <]keno[> Sony? well, I never liked sony headphones. never listened to the EX-70 though. are you sure you heard the Koss Porta Pro ??? 01.56.15 # the sennheiser mx500s finally on there way, and i am enjoying the sony srs-t77s (travel speakers). so it's all good. (assuming some patience) 01.56.49 # [keno], i don't think there's any dissing of porta pros going on 01.57.18 # Are the Porta Pros really that good? I mainly want good volume and bass. Most Sony's have low volume. 01.58.00 # <]keno[> kargatron I'm not defending them that much, am I? :) 01.58.28 # <]keno[> mrsubway I was blown away when I first head them. Never thought I'd hear that kind of bass from headphones. 01.59.10 # How's the volume. I'll put it this way. Would your Archos at max volume be damaging to your ears? 01.59.28 # <]keno[> While listening to some tracks with very subtle tunes (like Air or Faithless) I sometimes hear stuff with the koss headphones that I DON'T hear with my home stereo 02.00.06 # Reason I'm asking. I have a pair of Sony's that SUCK! I can put the Archos all the way up and it doesn't hurt my ears. 02.00.20 # <]keno[> I'm afraid I haven't used the archos yet! still waiting for it to charge completely (while looking for the last damn 1800 mah battery which for some reason got lost) 02.00.49 # not heard them, but several koss models are well-reviewed: porta pros, ksc 35, ksc 50 etc 02.00.50 # <]keno[> use a kitchen knife then - it does hurt your ears if used properly.. 02.01.08 # I have ksc35s, they are really good 02.01.12 # <]keno[> before I got the koss ones I consulted a very good headphone reviews site 02.01.14 # I don't want to hurt my ears. ^_^ I'm just asking. 02.01.23 # <]keno[> don't quite remember the name though :( 02.01.23 # if you don't mind the looksfeel, Grado sr-60 and 80s are extremely well thought of 02.01.51 # <]keno[> Grados were the only ones which the site recommended as much as the koss 02.01.58 # but for earphones, the sennheiser mx500 and sony ex-70s are the conventional wisdom 02.01.59 # I'm going into the city tomorrow. Anyone know what stores might carry the porta pros? 02.02.13 # <]keno[> I got them from office depot 02.02.14 # <]keno[> OHHH 02.02.27 # Office Depot. Thanks. 02.02.37 # Wish I could try them in the store, though. 02.03.06 # <]keno[> by the way -very important question - the archos faq says not to connect the unit through a USB hub, but I'd hate to crawl all the way to the back of the box.. any word on the downside of connecting through a USB hub (linksys brand) 02.03.55 # <]keno[> mrsubway I think they overcharge it though. You can prolly get it for much less.. office depot. aren't known for their reasonable prices.. 02.06.24 Quit [keno] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.09.01 # I can get them from amazon.com, but I really didn't want to wait for shipping. Perhaps Datavision or Compusa will have them. 02.12.23 # One last question. When upgrading Rockbox, should I delete the old .rockbox foler first? 02.12.32 # no need 02.13.11 Quit ]keno[ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.13.32 # And, for the daily upgrade, I just use the old .rockbox folder from 1.4? 02.14.40 # yup 02.14.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.14.58 # you may need to upgrade the language files though 02.15.17 # Would it be safe to keep rockbox 1.4 as the default, and use the Rolo to load the beta to test it? 02.15.34 # sure, but the settings will not be saved 02.15.58 # Okay. Thanks. You guys are great. CANNOT WAIT FOR VERSION 2! 02.16.01 Quit mrsubway () 02.16.39 # LinusN, any rec. oddness progress since the file upload? was gone... 02.17.25 # kargatron: i'd like you to try the latest bleeding edge 02.21.07 # ok, but 2:10am is asking a lot! :) 02.21.51 # hehe 02.21.56 # 1:10 here 02.22.11 # greece, got an hour on ya 02.24.46 Join [keno] [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.103) 02.25.57 # <[keno]> Crap. I really need an answer to this one and I keep getting disconnected, so I apologize if someone answered this already - why does the archos FAQ says not to connect the AJB through a USB hub? will it have any negative effects if I do? 02.27.38 # i don't know 02.27.57 # i know for sure that it may be bothered by other devices on the same bus 02.28.09 # like scanners, modems etc 02.28.36 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|n8 (tot@p5084ADED.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.30.33 Join paulheu [0] (kosh@node1e8d4.a2000.nl) 02.30.42 # Hey Linus... still here ;) 02.30.59 # yes, a little tired 02.31.19 # paulheu: tried the latest bleeding edge? 02.31.31 # Yes.. problem's still there 02.31.51 # damn! 02.32.30 # It's weird.. , archos FW sounds fine.. RockBox has Xtra gremlins on backing vocals.. 02.32.49 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.33.01 # paulheu: do you have time for an extra test? 02.33.06 # sure.. 02.33.51 # LinusN, just did it. sounds as bad or worse 02.33.55 # you want the file? 02.34.10 # paulheu: when you run the archos firmware, do you hear a "click" in the headphones when you switch to recording mode? 02.34.20 # kargatron: no need 02.34.34 # Not that I know,.. I will check.. 02.36.14 Join [keno] [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.138) 02.39.24 # I hear a short mid-high click 02.39.29 # ok 02.39.51 # <[keno]> damn this connection 02.39.56 # <[keno]> [02:15] <[keno]> Crap. I really need an answer to this one and I keep getting disconnected, so I apologize if someone answered this already - why does the archos FAQ says not to connect the AJB through a USB hub? will it have any negative effects if I do? 02.39.56 # <[keno]> [02:17] i don't know 02.39.56 # <[keno]> [02:17] i know for sure that it may be bothered by other devices on the same bus 02.39.56 DBUG Enqueued KICK [keno] 02.39.56 # <[keno]> [02:17] like scanners, modems etc 02.40.12 # <[keno]> please finish LinusN. very sorry for this.. 02.40.20 # that was it 02.40.22 # that was it 02.40.28 # <[keno]> oh.. okay ;) 02.41.02 # <[keno]> I found the last 1800mAh GP battery! I'll charge it with the external though.. should be faster. 02.41.09 # stop using me as a puppet LinusN! 02.41.21 # Linus.. Just tried recording the same music I do on line-in through mic.. sounds OK!.. so it's definately a line-in problem 02.43.13 # very interesting 02.43.27 # Do you want the mic track? 02.43.35 # no need 02.43.37 # ok 02.44.26 # Linus: You are also aware the created file has no datestamp? 02.44.42 # I mean no creationdate 02.44.43 # that's Zagors department 02.44.46 # ok.. 02.45.00 # i know that he fakes the timestamps 02.47.02 # paulheu: does tha gain value make any difference? 02.47.12 # was wodnering about the timestamps 02.47.20 # I will try.. hang on.. 02.48.09 # paulheu, are you recording from a standard component in? is your lowest adjusted gain still fairly high? my tests had -3db still distoriting from a dvd player 02.48.12 # curious 02.50.16 # I always record at -3.. and would prefer to go -10 but that's not possible.. on pre equipment -3 is way to high for average level recording.. I user two 56K resistors on my liev board to attenuate the line out on the board.. 02.50.53 # Linus: tried +9dB.. no improvement 02.50.57 # LinusN, is the -3 hardware limited? 02.51.00 # <[keno]> How probable is it that using rockbox will cause the infamous HD lockup described in http://rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html ? I don't have a laptop nor a 3.5" -> 2.5" IDE adapter.. 02.51.00 # yes 02.51.17 # kargatron: yes 02.51.43 # [keno]: haven't seen it since the project started 02.52.16 # well, glad i have no use to record from components then... :) 02.52.20 # <[keno]> cool. thanks for all your help linux. I will install rockbox now, for the 1st time 02.52.34 # [keno]: good luck 02.52.48 # <[keno]> do I really need *luck*? :) 02.52.53 # ;) 02.52.59 # we can call you linux now? 02.53.11 # haha 02.53.46 # i really have to go to bed 02.53.53 # cu tomorrow guys! 02.54.00 # Me too.. l8er 02.54.06 Quit paulheu ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 02.56.40 Part LinusN 03.08.27 Join ]keno[ [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.33.60) 03.22.45 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.32.23 Join haiphong [0] (trilluser@209.denver-33-34rs.co.dial-access.att.net) 03.32.53 DBUG Enqueued KICK haiphong 03.32.53 # 02anybody here? 03.34.47 # 02just want to leave a message to say you guys are great and keep up the work! rockbox has made my archos worthwhile :) 03.34.53 Quit haiphong (Client Quit) 04.14.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.16.24 Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") 04.29.36 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.56.26 Join [keno] [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.184) 05.00.50 Quit sweety () 05.14.42 Quit ]keno[ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.14.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.42.46 Quit Master_T (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.12.10 Join ]keno[ [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.184) 08.14.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.30.20 Quit [keno] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.43.50 Quit _seb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.43.50 Quit mecraw12 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.43.59 Join mecraw12 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 08.47.18 Quit mahonia ("...") 09.11.28 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 09.12.30 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 09.16.46 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 09.16.52 Topic "http://rockbox.haxx.se/TODO" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 09.17.31 # Yay yay! 09.22.49 # hey 09.22.52 # pine with threads! 09.41.52 DEBUG EOF from server (Connection timed out) 09.41.52 *** Cleanup 09.41.52 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 09.41.52 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 09.41.53 *** Server message 501: 'logbot_ :Unknown MODE flag' 09.41.53 Mode "logbot_ :+i" by logbot_ 09.41.53 Join logbot_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.41.53 Join @Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 09.41.53 Join mecraw12 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 09.41.53 Join ]keno[ [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.184) 09.41.53 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net) 09.41.53 Join Gissehel [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-3-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.41.53 Join tot|n8 [0] (tot@p5084ADED.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.41.53 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-129.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.41.53 Join nickr [0] (~panphage@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 09.41.53 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@goedel.cs.uni-sb.de) 09.41.53 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 09.41.53 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@193.210.3.10) 09.41.53 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 09.56.47 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp17-221.ath.forthnet.gr) 09.59.31 Quit Gissehel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.12.26 Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") 10.14.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.16.49 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.19.09 # morning bro 10.20.56 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.20.58 # morning 10.24.43 # moin 10.39.05 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 49 minutes at the last flood 10.39.05 # * Bagder got some code sneaked into glib 10.39.40 # ooh 10.39.40 # what? 10.39.57 # they're importing trio for C99 snprintf() support 10.45.33 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.201) 10.47.27 # cool 10.47.27 Join MrHali [0] (yomomma@HSE-Ottawa-ppp158719.sympatico.ca) 10.47.44 # that's a nice piece of code 10.47.48 # hi 10.47.53 # hi 10.47.57 # yes, its neat 10.48.14 # i just wanted to give you guys props for the awesome job you all are doing 10.48.30 # thanks! :-) 10.48.36 # * MrHali hearts rockbox 10.48.50 # :-) 10.49.28 # i was looking at the site, and reading thru yesterdays irc logs.. do you guys need any recording testing help? 10.49.46 # I believe so 10.49.57 # don't know if i can offer any assistance somehow 10.50.14 # me neither, Linus is the man in charge of that 10.50.23 # because i bought my recorder... as a recorder primarily 10.51.07 # ok, maybe i will log on later when he is on then 10.51.17 # please do 10.52.13 # just curious, do you guys know if it is technically possible to make the recorder record in CBR? possibly a future release of rockbox? or is it a limitation of the encoder chip? 10.52.38 # I think it only does VBR 10.52.42 # shitty 10.52.58 # oh well... thanks though 10.54.08 # ok.. i'll look for linus later on... take care everyone 10.54.11 # simma lugnt 10.54.15 # ;-) 10.54.31 # * Bagder falls off his chair 10.55.00 Part MrHali 10.57.09 Quit pyvasene () 11.08.09 # * Bagder holds on 11.13.12 Quit mecraw12 (saberhagen.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.13.12 NSplit saberhagen.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.13.12 Quit Jet8810 (saberhagen.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.13.12 Quit adiamas (saberhagen.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.13.12 Quit Zagor (saberhagen.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.13.26 NHeal saberhagen.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.13.26 NJoin Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 11.13.26 NJoin mecraw12 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 11.13.26 NJoin Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net) 11.13.26 NJoin adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-129.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 11.24.02 Nick tot|n8 is now known as TotMacher (tot@p5084ADED.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.29.11 Quit TotMacher () 11.29.55 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 11.30.36 # wb mbr 11.39.07 Quit mbr (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.48.30 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 11.48.37 # hi all! 11.49.18 # hi 11.50.41 # no magic wand yet? ;) 11.52.52 Nick quelsaruk is now known as qule|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 11.53.50 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.201) 11.57.02 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 11.57.27 # Hi 11.57.37 # Damn router loop 12.02.16 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 12.05.32 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.13.52 # hi mbr 12.14.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.18.11 Quit mbr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.30 # bbl 12.31.31 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 12.39.28 # Zagor: Me, being a bit curious, how well does the power off function work? 12.41.51 # idle-off, you mean? 12.43.23 # Yes 12.43.32 # I tried it in the early stages 12.43.45 # (when it shut down while connected via USB *ERHUMM*) ;-) 12.43.56 # i have no problems with idle-off 12.44.47 # It's more of a protective issue 12.44.57 # I never turn on the unit by accident 12.45.10 # It has happened once or twice 12.45.15 # I have it on 10 minutes 12.45.20 # it Just Works 12.45.40 # :D 12.46.05 # Zagor: sometimes, you are so wise 12.46.17 # Try to find a hands-on review on the web. Don't you think a great product like this would have resulted in many reviews? 12.46.24 # Talking about the oddysey-thingy 12.46.31 # hehe 12.46.44 # it's true, isn't it? 12.46.59 # Yes 12.47.10 # I didn't think about it in that way until you said so :) 12.47.26 # Always read the review (or consult the developers of the alternative open source firmware) :) 12.47.34 # I read zero reviews about the archos 12.47.35 # hehe 12.47.47 # you foolishly trusted us :) 12.47.50 # Yes 12.49.22 # With rockbox, the unit owns :D 13.00.35 Join kosh [0] (kosh@node1e8d4.a2000.nl) 13.14.55 Nick pyvasene is now known as pyvasene_miam (~pyvasene@62.4.7.201) 13.23.06 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 14.01.57 DEBUG Lost contact with server 14.01.57 *** Cleanup 14.01.57 *** Cleanup 14.01.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.01.57 *** Exit 14.02.03 *** Started Dancer V4.16p1 14.02.03 *** Connected to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 14.02.03 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 14.02.04 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 14.02.04 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 14.02.04 Join logbot [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.02.04 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 14.02.04 Join kosh [0] (kosh@node1e8d4.a2000.nl) 14.02.04 Join pyvasene_miam [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.201) 14.02.04 Join qule|out [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.02.04 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-129.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 14.02.04 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net) 14.02.04 Join mecraw12 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 14.02.04 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.02.04 Join ]keno[ [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.32.184) 14.02.04 Join nickr [0] (~panphage@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 14.02.04 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@goedel.cs.uni-sb.de) 14.02.04 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 14.02.04 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@193.210.3.10) 14.02.04 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 14.02.13 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 14.06.28 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.36.25 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 14.46.18 # Bagder: any progress on the "kilobyte function"? 14.46.40 # I many letters do you want written, I mean maximum? is 5 good? 14.46.43 # how many 14.46.49 # 5 is ok 14.46.56 # ok 14.46.58 # gimme a minute 14.48.58 # kosh: you're here? 14.51.11 # kosh spice :) 14.53.42 # LinusN: you want the code by mail or shall I commit it somewhere? 14.53.52 # i dunno 14.53.58 # is there a good place to put it? 14.54.03 # I'll mail it then 14.54.06 # common? :-) 14.54.11 # hahaha 14.54.20 # the diskinfo screen wants it to 14.54.26 # Bagder: seriously, more than one function will use it 14.57.12 # but only apps, right? 14.57.24 # yeah 14.59.42 # wow! apps/common is coming!!! :-) 14.59.54 # hehe 15.00.07 # * Bagder tries to come up with something 15.01.15 # it's a tough nut to crack ;) 15.01.35 # the code seems to work though ;-) 15.03.05 # apps/string.c ? 15.03.37 # misc.c ;) 15.03.50 # string is fine with me 15.04.45 # of for me too 15.04.48 # ok 15.05.22 # barnens hus 15.05.23 # la l ala 15.05.48 # LinusN: Now you need to teach Linusette to upriciate Caramell and Mamma mU ;D 15.06.00 # hehe, will do 15.06.01 Join _seb_ [0] (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 15.06.14 # her name is Smilla by the way 15.06.25 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 15.06.43 # :-) 15.08.10 # char *num2max5(int bytes, char *max5); 15.08.29 # goodie 15.09.16 # Bagder: i want unsigned int or unsigned long 15.09.25 # good point 15.09.37 # unsigned long misa think 15.09.59 # there's no difference here 15.11.52 # sounds gooder :) 15.11.58 # gooder. nice word 15.12.01 # anyone here who can test a line in music recording? 15.12.16 # me 15.12.18 # do you use the foo2bar notation often in function names? 15.12.34 Quit TotMacher () 15.12.35 # not really 15.12.39 # Hadaka: as often as possible, short names are a Good Thing 15.12.40 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 15.12.41 # I was just out of ideas ;-) 15.13.11 # qule|out: hang on, i'll build a firmware to test for me 15.13.12 # LinusN: i was going to have lunch, can i tell you the result of the test at 16:00 ? 15.13.24 # ookay then 15.13.43 # LinusN: are ypu going to send me a firmware? 15.14.01 # i will put it at linus.haxx.se/ajbrec.ajz 15.14.10 # oki doki 15.14.28 # *drumroll* 15.14.29 # call it linus.ajz pliz 15.14.35 # ok 15.15.20 # there will be two: reset.ajz and update.ajz 15.16.08 # should i download them into my jukebox? 15.17.23 # yup, and ROLO to them 15.18.01 # coming up in a minute 15.18.09 # LinusN: if you dont mind 15.18.31 # could you better upload them in my pc via ftp? 15.18.39 # sure 15.19.11 # blirp 15.23.25 Nick pyvasene_miam is now known as pyvasene (~pyvasene@62.4.7.201) 15.27.12 # cu later! 15.29.55 Join laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 15.36.56 # i am suspecting that the I2C and LCD serial communication interferes with the Line In sampling 15.37.13 # uff 15.37.18 # ouch 15.37.34 # so how would archos avoid that? 15.37.40 # and those faint high frequencies are generating the artifacts due to bad lowpass filters 15.38.10 # we will know when quelsaruk has tried my test firmwares this afternoon 15.38.17 # Zagor: maybe thet don't 15.38.19 # they 15.38.31 # people are complaining about hiss 15.38.56 # someone said rockbox recordings had less noise than archos 15.39.16 # that may have been a mic recording 15.39.40 # yeah. or digital. 15.40.07 # though how you get noise on a digital recording is beyond me :) 15.40.21 # hehe 15.40.59 # I need advice from you guys 15.41.27 # you must be desperate, asking us for advice 15.41.30 # If I would to replace my batteries with 1800mAh ones, would the charging become different in any way? 15.41.47 # LinusN: you are underestimating the power of yourselves ;D 15.41.52 # it may take longer to charge them 15.42.10 # we need to work on the charging btw 15.42.46 # I think it works rather nice 15.43.02 # I often fall asleep listening to the sweet tunes of Enigma or such :) 15.43.57 # dwihno: we use 1800 mAh all the time 15.44.16 # Zagor: no problems encountered? how much extra time do you gain? 15.44.36 # i haven't done any proper tests 15.44.42 # it feels like an hour or two extra 15.44.51 # no problems 15.44.56 # * dwihno is considering a hard disk upgrade as well. What do you recommend? Fujitsu, Hitachi or IBM? 15.50.19 # Linus promised me to help me out with that ;D 15.50.37 # yes i did 15.51.06 # dwihno: i have a toshiba :) 15.51.09 # ihave a 40gig Toshiba by the way 15.51.22 # and i like it 15.51.29 # Hm 15.51.33 # Where did you purchse it? 15.51.38 # I see nothing @ dustin 15.51.46 # i dunno 15.51.55 # Hehu 15.52.16 # my supplier at work ordered it for me 15.53.51 # :O 15.53.55 # "supplier" 15.53.57 # :O 15.54.01 # :( ) 15.54.20 # Tell he to supply me too ;D 15.54.29 # Tell him I'll buy him a beer :) 15.55.08 # haha, i'll tell him 15.55.41 # :D 15.55.53 # Some of that guinness stuff :) 15.56.59 # That will convince him :) 16.02.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.54.58 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 17.06.42 # Zagor: do we have stat() or something to find out file size and stuff? 17.06.59 # not yet 17.07.09 # woudl be nice 17.07.33 # so that we can do without seek(fd, 0, SEEK_END) 17.07.48 # you can get it from readdir() until stat() is implemented 17.07.57 # stat() will just be a wrapper for that 17.08.07 # (readdir, that is) 17.09.39 # i was thinking of the id3 functions 17.09.54 # they seek to the end to find the file length 17.10.11 # ah 17.20.23 # maybe save the file size when opening the file 17.22.24 # in the file info struct 17.32.59 # Any of you guys use XFree 4+ ? 17.34.33 # ypu 17.34.35 # yup 17.35.05 # LinusN: work half-done... 17.35.25 # you've got the files at the ftp 17.35.32 # but i ran out of batteries 17.35.44 # Zagor: Could you do me a favor and check if there's something like ttmkdir? 17.35.45 # and i have no update.mp3 17.35.47 # :( 17.35.55 # Zagor: (for creating fonts.dir's for ttf's) 17.36.12 # so you've got just a mp3 using reset mas option 17.36.16 # dwihno: uh, i'm not at home :) 17.36.58 # Zagor: How about remote access? :) You DO have SSH? :) 17.38.53 # dwihno: my home box is not on 17.39.59 # Zagor: That's too bad. I'm so sad :/ :) 17.40.03 # qule|out: ok 17.40.28 # It would be neat to find out if I need to use some kind of external tool to generate the files 17.40.55 # dwihno: you should be able to find that info on google. it's pretty standard stuff. 17.41.00 # or join #linuxhelp 17.41.06 # gotta go, see you later 17.41.09 Part Zagor 17.41.54 # LinusN: i'll give you the other track tomorrow morning, if you don't mind 17.42.08 # qule|out: do you remember if they sounded different? 17.42.22 # yea 17.42.34 # reset sounded a bit better 17.42.42 # than update? 17.42.42 # but still had that nasty noise 17.42.57 # ummm 17.43.01 # can't tell you 17.43.21 # sorry 17.43.44 # too bad, thanks anyway 17.44.31 # too bad? me or the song? 17.45.14 # hehe, too bad you can't give me the update.mp3 17.45.28 # that was the one i believed would fix the error... 17.45.33 # sorry 17.46.22 # :) 17.46.42 # reset.mp3 sounds better, but not good 17.46.50 # i know 17.47.14 # that was what i said before... it sound better, but still with that noise 17.47.17 # :) 17.56.33 # I was just wondering if building the emulator under freebsd requires some kind of extra stuff 18.01.05 # <]keno[> morning (um, yeah) 18.01.22 # <]keno[> got a few Qs for you guys.. 18.01.39 # <]keno[> LinusN you ever sleep? 18.02.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.03.15 # <]keno[> well first thing's first, the conditional tags don't work for some reason. Here's my default.wpf: 18.04.10 # <]keno[> %s%?%it<%?%ia<%ia - >%it|%fn>%s%?%id<%id|%d1> %?%in<- %in> 18.04.43 # <]keno[> also, only 1st scrolling line is really scrolling. the 2nd %s doesn't do anything 18.05.36 # * ]keno[ sits on his archos for a while 18.05.48 # i never sleep 18.08.20 # <]keno[> hey I just saw linus.haxx.se. very nice! 18.08.54 # <]keno[> sleeping is bad for you - you tell'em linus 18.09.12 # Well 18.09.14 # Weekend time 18.09.17 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 18.11.20 # <]keno[> hmm. why does my "home made" charger makes a louder buzzing sound when charging than the archos one? 18.11.26 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAB383.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.11.33 # ]keno[: you run 1.4? 18.11.41 # <]keno[> yep 18.11.49 # then only one line scrolls 18.12.00 # the multiline scroll is a newer feature 18.12.09 # the docs are ahead of time 18.12.17 # <]keno[> okay 18.12.26 # <]keno[> heh, like microsoft! :) 18.12.43 # <]keno[> but why doesn't it work? (the conditionals) 18.13.33 # i'm no wps config expert 18.14.35 # <]keno[> if I use say %s%ia - %it %id - %in it shows the id3 artist/track, but if I use a conditional like %s%?%id<%id|%d1> %?%in<- %in> for the same mp3, it never sees the id3 artist/track/title 18.14.49 # <]keno[> hmm.. damn. 18.14.51 # <]keno[> who is then ? 18.15.22 # <]keno[> is this you btw LinusN ? http://linus.haxx.se/smilla1.html 18.15.38 # yes 18.16.06 # <]keno[> you look like my uncle heh 18.16.11 # hehe 18.16.50 # is that a compliment? 18.16.52 # :-) 18.17.15 # <]keno[> heh yeah 18.17.21 # <]keno[> he's a sports broadcaster 18.18.59 # <]keno[> kinda known around here 18.19.00 # oh, i have a radio face! 18.19.23 # <]keno[> heh 18.19.37 # <]keno[> he's on tv a lot too, so it's okay 18.21.04 # <]keno[> well, who do you think I should consult about the conditionals not working in custom WPSs ? 18.22.02 # someone else :-) 18.22.20 # well, i could help you by digging in the code, but i have so many other things to do 18.22.20 # <]keno[> other than the wps conditionals thing, I think there should be a menu option in SOUND menu for selecting CFGs from a pre defined dir. It's annoying to browse to the CFG files DIR all the time, especially if you have "follow playlist" on.. 18.22.21 # <]keno[> okay 18.22.32 # ]keno[: good idea 18.22.46 # <]keno[> nah, I'm sure I'll find someone whod listen soon :) 18.22.56 # that has been suggested quite a few times actually 18.23.02 Quit TotMacher () 18.23.08 # <]keno[> LinusN the q is has it been posted? 18.25.23 # <]keno[> I mean, "feature request" doesn't show it 18.25.56 # i was looking there too 18.26.09 # post a request so we won't forget it 18.26.21 # we could use a font browser as well 18.26.30 # and a language selector 18.26.59 # <]keno[> I can do some translations if you like btw 18.27.20 # <]keno[> you want me to post these too, or are they already there? 18.27.38 # what language? 18.28.06 # <]keno[> btw is it just me or does the sound quality get really "overdrive" and very distorted and, well, BAD, over 96 percent volume on rockbox 1.4 ? 18.28.16 # Player? 18.28.30 # <]keno[> hebrew/arabic/romanian/russian 18.28.40 # <]keno[> recorder 20 18.29.12 # ]keno[: is this true for both headphones and when connected to an amplifier? 18.29.26 # Rockbox is generally louder than Archos 18.29.41 # <]keno[> didn't try with an amp 18.30.31 # <]keno[> I can tell you that the same "volume overload distortion" (heh real technical am I) happens when I raise bass boost, then lower it. 18.31.08 # <]keno[> I can distinctly hear the audio becoming terribly "overdrive"ed when bass boost is lowered to 0 from say 10 percent or more 18.34.53 # <]keno[> anyone alive? 18.35.12 # ok 18.35.30 # are your mp3 files loud in general? 18.35.55 # <]keno[> no, have tried with various ones 18.35.57 # and how on earth can you raise the volume to 96 and not hurt your ears? :-) 18.36.09 # <]keno[> heh 18.36.28 # what are your settings? 18.36.41 # <]keno[> volume: 90 18.36.41 # <]keno[> bass: 2 18.36.41 # <]keno[> treble: -1 18.36.41 DBUG Enqueued KICK ]keno[ 18.36.41 # <]keno[> balance: 0 18.36.41 # <]keno[> channels: 0 18.36.41 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.36.41 # <]keno[> loudness: 0 18.36.43 # <]keno[> bass boost: 20 18.36.45 # <]keno[> auto volume: 0 18.37.00 # i can tell you right now that it certainly is possible to "overdrive" the sound 18.37.23 # <]keno[> try to lower the bass to 00, or raise the volume above 96. it's worse if bass is +4db or more 18.37.32 # to avoid distortion, we have to follow the following formula: 18.38.02 # (bass+treble+loudness+bass boost) < 0dB 18.38.11 # (bass+treble+loudness+bass boost+volume) < 0dB 18.38.13 # sorry 18.38.33 # that means that we have to lower the volume if you increase the other parameters 18.38.52 # e have decided no to, because people appreciate the loud volume 18.38.56 # we 18.39.25 # <]keno[> .. myself included, but not at the expense of quality.. 18.39.40 # <]keno[> this is very strange.. are you sure noone else encountered this issue? 18.40.01 # the thing is, if you want a volume of 96, you are in trouble anyway 18.40.21 # if we compensate, you will never reach the volume you want anyway 18.40.36 # then you will set it to 100 and feel it is too low 18.40.38 # <]keno[> heh, you got the EX-70, I use the porta pros :) 18.41.31 # but you see my point? 18.41.48 # <]keno[> I can live with 96 percent volume just fine, but the bass boost thing is puzzeling me. why in the world would LOWERING it cause distortion? If I raise it back again to 10 percent, the distortion goes away. 18.41.57 # <]keno[> yes I understand and agree 18.42.22 # the bass boost is a peculiar thing 18.43.18 # <]keno[> meaning.. it can have unpredictable effect? 18.43.24 # <]keno[> earthquakes and such? 18.43.54 # nah, it reshapes the sound, so the ear perceives a bass frequency that actually isn't there 18.44.27 # so it might even help combat distortion, because it may remove "real" bass frequencies 18.44.36 # as far as i have understood it 18.45.32 # <]keno[> hmm. strange. 18.46.42 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.46.47 # <]keno[> by the way, has anyone noticed a louder buzzing sound when charging with a different charger than the provided one? 18.48.11 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084B6E4.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.48.45 # <]keno[> I can't use the provided one without a 220>120 voltage adapter (not US based), and I won't carry it with me, so I found this old 9v DC 600mA charger, which works fine but does cause a much louder buzzing sound. 18.49.11 # <]keno[> is it safe? (or AS safe) 18.49.49 # i don't know, but as long as it is 9V 600mA 18.49.53 # is it regulated? 18.51.47 # <]keno[> no idea 18.52.05 # <]keno[> it barely has the voltage stated 18.54.46 Quit pyvasene () 18.59.24 # <]keno[> I dont wanna open it up ;) 18.59.26 # <]keno[> hello? 18.59.36 # i'm here (coding) 19.00.09 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.00.09 # * ]keno[ is mad at himself for delaying the next rockbox by disturbing linus 19.00.36 # :-) 19.13.11 Join [keno] [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.33.146) 19.26.59 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.31.57 Quit ]keno[ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.01 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.32 Join [keno] [0] (~kenlarzo@80.178.33.25) 19.45.42 # ummm.. an offtopic question 19.45.55 # has anyone digital tv? 19.46.11 # i mean, that kind of service installed at home 19.51.28 # ok.. seems that no one has a digital tv decoder 19.51.29 # :( 19.53.53 # <[keno]> I got a sattalite TV dish at my dad's 19.54.21 # <[keno]> and it's a thomson digital tv decoder I believe (haven't been there in a while) 20.02.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.19.26 # * [keno] is away, f00d [log:] [page:] 20.33.15 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.43.43 Join gnng [0] (gnng@p50916375.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.43.44 # hi 20.44.18 # hi 20.45.27 # do you know where i can download the binary-files of that "ui simulator"? i didn't find them on the page 20.46.28 # it only exists for linux 20.46.36 # the win32 version is too out-of-date 20.47.07 # the linux versions are at the bottom of http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml 20.47.31 # fine, i gonna try it, thx 20.56.32 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.57.49 Quit TotMacher () 20.58.01 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 21.10.31 Nick LinusN|away is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.15.40 Join probonic [0] (~phil@host217-39-18-68.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 21.24.37 # hmm, how to tell the simulator which firmware to use? currently it closes himself right after having show the rockbox-logo 21.24.55 Quit probonic () 21.26.44 # gnng: create an 'archos' dir/link in the dir you run the simulator from 21.34.15 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 21.55.14 Quit gnng ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 21.55.28 # anyone here who can do a Line In test? 22.02.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.07.18 # jajajaj 22.07.31 # LinusN: not until tonight, and u know it :P 22.07.55 # it is night :-) 22.08.28 # not in spain 22.09.04 # well.. we have no sun, but nights here start at 12:00 pm 22.09.23 # ah 22.10.12 # i mean.. 22.10.23 # it's friday!!!!! 22.10.52 # we call night to the time after dinner and if it's friday we cal it to the hour we go to pubs or so 22.11.26 # if you say, i'll call you home tonight, it means, i'll call you after 10:30 22.11.29 # :) 22.11.37 # qule|out: i think i have found the error 22.12.07 # really? 22.12.10 # where? 22.12.25 # it's a timing error in the DMA protocol 22.12.29 # or even better.. could you send me a repaired.ajz ? 22.12.35 # to test it 22.12.36 # :) 22.12.45 # i haven't been able to fix it yet... :-( 22.12.50 # upsss 22.12.51 # ok 22.13.01 # don't work to hadr tonight 22.13.05 # it's friday! 22.13.16 # go and drink some beers 22.13.23 # :) 22.13.26 # i can't 22.13.40 # i must stay home and take care of my sick wife 22.15.04 # sorry 22.15.05 # :( 22.16.06 # complications from the birth of our daughter last month 22.16.19 # i've seen her in your web 22.16.29 # :) 22.17.37 # LinusN: an offtopic question 22.17.59 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.18.00 # shoot 22.18.16 # do you have in sweden some kind of digital tv? 22.18.20 # yes 22.18.34 # or rather digital transmitted TV 22.18.44 # not hdtv or something 22.20.05 # umm 22.20.14 # digital transmited tv.. 22.20.28 # i have installed it at home 22.20.43 # but i have to pay a lot for films, or football matches 22.21.04 # and i don't know how to do that "for free" 22.21.17 # i was wandering if you know how to do that.. 22.21.32 # i don't know anything about that 22.21.33 # because i suppose the decoder is more or less the same 22.21.37 # ouch 22.21.42 # what a pitty 22.21.48 # except that the encryption in sweden is quite tough 22.23.32 # in spain it was easy to decode.. until 4 months ago... they have changed it 22.24.09 # qule|out: are you talking about cable TV? 22.24.18 # or satellite TV? 22.24.22 # satellite 22.24.40 # ok, that was not what i was talking about 22.24.45 # ahh 22.24.47 # :) 22.24.58 # digital tv via satellite 22.25.15 # ok, that is often cracked in sweden 22.25.55 # i haven't done it myself 22.26.52 # ok 22.27.00 # i'll search the web 22.27.08 # maybe i'll find something 22.29.03 # LinusN: i'll upload the last file to the ftp tomorrow at 10:00 more or less, ok? 22.29.17 # my pc is always online 22.29.21 # qule|out: no need 22.29.31 # really? 22.29.34 # yup 22.29.37 # ok 22.29.38 # :) 22.30.02 # i see the error here anyway 22.31.18 # well... 22.31.23 # time to go home! 22.31.25 # see you! 22.31.31 # cu 22.31.34 # and i hope your wife gets better 22.31.36 # :) 22.31.42 # that will take about a year 22.31.48 # unfortunately 22.31.49 # that long? 22.31.53 # yup 22.32.07 # she is in great pain and can't move out of bed 22.32.36 # ouch 22.32.37 # sorry 22.32.47 # thanks 22.32.48 # that must be really hard... 22.33.03 # yeah, it is tough on us both 22.33.14 # but worst for the oldest kid 22.33.26 # the other boys at the photos are yours too? 22.33.40 # guys 22.33.49 # the boy, yes, the other girl is a friend 22.33.59 # ahmm.. ok 22.34.47 # if you where in spain i could offer myself if you needed anything, but too many kilometers 22.34.57 # thanks 22.35.07 # i'll have to put my son to bed now 22.35.11 # cu l8r 22.35.21 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|fairytale (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.35.22 # see you tomorrow 22.35.37 Part qule|out (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 22.19.48 Nick LinusN|fairytale is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.24.30 # LinusN: anything you want tested? 22.24.41 # no, not yet 22.46.27 # Zagor: i want timestamps on the created files 22.46.45 # so add it ;) 22.46.51 # ok, i'll fix 22.54.49 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.44.43 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net)